Backgrounder On First Aid And Blow-Out Kits


Tensmiths sends.

Get your bandaids and training forthwith, campers.

You’re gonna need ‘em.

UPDATE 1145 EDT 11 APRIL 2012: Commenter Hollywood sends:

We put together a group buy for a local group from Chinook Medical.

The kit was optimized for cost, size and shelf life, so you will notice the conspicuous lack of hemostatic agent and better tourniquet. The kit fits in a cargo pocket and was put together for $25. It was vacuum packed with a kitchen vacuum packing machine and should have a near infinite shelf live and it also prevent the owner from raiding the kit for non-emergencies, keeping it intact. Duct tape was wrapped on business cards which allowed it to be flat, and was cheaper than buying mini rolls.

This kit is very close to the “Tactical Response Gear – V.O.K. – Ventilated Operator Kit” that sells for the very reasonably priced cost of $40 and includes a 14ga x 3 ¼ Catheter for those trained in it use in chest decompression. If I need a kit or two, I would just purchase them from Tactical Response, but if want them for a group or desire to customize them doing it yourself is the way to go and not difficult.

The Standard Kit we put together contains:

Tourni-Kwik TK-4 Combat Tourniquet
6″ Israeli Emergency Bandage
2 PriMed Compressed Gauze Bandage
30FR Nasopharyngeal Airway
Pair of Latex Free Gloves
Packet of Surgical Lube
8’ Duct Tape
Safety Pin
Triage Card/Pencil
EMT Shears external to the package, might be need to open the vacuum pack.

Current Prices as of 02/05/2012

Tourniquets
05157 Tourni-Kwik TK-4 Combat Tourniquet $5.55
http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/05157
05149 SOF Tactical Tourniquet $27.17
http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/05149

Trauma Bandage
05176 Olaes Modular Bandage, 6″ $7.45
http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/05176
05131 6″ Israeli Emergency Bandage $6.01
http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/05131

Wound Packing
05143 2 PriMed Compressed Gauze Bandage (or Z-pack) 2x$1.45
http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/05143
05156 2 Z-PAK Gauze Dressing 2x$1.89
http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/05156

Chest Wound/Air Way Stuff
03682 Duct Tape, 2″ x 5 yd (can roll/fold your own from a larger roll) $2.55 or Free
http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/03682
12099 HALO Seals $16.59
http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/12099
02120PA 30FR Nasopharyngeal Airway $3.67
http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/02120PA

Other Items
01202 EMT Shears – 7.5″ (Not vacuum packed) $1.90
http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/01202
99804 50 Pairs of Nitrile Gloves $9.00
http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/99804

Hemostatics (optional)
http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/category/s-hemostatics

If you look at the minimum (prices in bold) for a trauma bandage , 2 packing gauzes, TK-4 Tourniquet, EMT Shears, fold your own Duct Tape and 1 pair of free gloves, you are in about $17+S&H.

24 responses to “Backgrounder On First Aid And Blow-Out Kits

  1. We put together a group buy for a local group from Chinook Medical.

    The kit was optimized for cost, size and shelf life, so you will notice the conspicuous lack of hemostatic agent and better tourniquet. The kit fits in a cargo pocket and was put together for $25. It was vacuum packed with a kitchen vacuum packing machine and should have a near infinite shelf live and it also prevent the owner from raiding the kit for non-emergencies, keeping it intact. Duct tape was wrapped on business card which allowed it to be flat, and was cheaper that buying mini rolls.

    This kit is very close to the “Tactical Response Gear – V.O.K. – Ventilated Operator Kit” tat sells for the very reasonably priced cost of $40 and includes a 14ga x 3 ¼ Catheter for those trained in it use in chest decompression. If I need a kit or two, I would just purchase them from Tactical Response, but if want them for a group or desire to customize them doing it yourself is the way to go and not difficult.

    The Standard Kit we put together contains:

    Tourni-Kwik TK-4 Combat Tourniquet
    6″ Israeli Emergency Bandage
    2 PriMed Compressed Gauze Bandage
    30FR Nasopharyngeal Airway
    Pair of Latex Free Gloves
    Packet of Surgical Lube
    8’ Duct Tape
    Safety Pin
    Triage Card/Pencil
    EMT Shears external to the package, might be need to open the vacuum pack.

    Current Prices as of 02/05/2012

    Tourniquets
    05157 Tourni-Kwik TK-4 Combat Tourniquet $5.55
    http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/05157
    05149 SOF Tactical Tourniquet $27.17
    http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/05149

    Trauma Bandage
    05176 Olaes Modular Bandage, 6″ $7.45
    http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/05176
    05131 6″ Israeli Emergency Bandage $6.01
    http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/05131

    Wound Packing
    05143 2 PriMed Compressed Gauze Bandage (or Z-pack) 2x$1.45
    http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/05143
    05156 2 Z-PAK Gauze Dressing 2x$1.89
    http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/05156

    Chest Wound/Air Way Stuff
    03682 Duct Tape, 2″ x 5 yd (can roll/fold your own from a larger roll) $2.55 or Free
    http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/03682
    12099 HALO Seals $16.59
    http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/12099
    02120PA 30FR Nasopharyngeal Airway $3.67
    http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/02120PA

    Other Items
    01202 EMT Shears – 7.5″ (Not vacuum packed) $1.90
    http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/01202
    99804 50 Pairs of Nitrile Gloves $9.00
    http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/item/99804

    Hemostatics (optional)
    http://www.chinookmed.com/cgi-bin/category/s-hemostatics

    If you look at the minimum (prices in bold) for a trauma bandage , 2 packing gauzes, TK-4 Tourniquet, EMT Shears, fold your own Duct Tape and 1 pair of free gloves, you are in about $17+S&H.

  2. N’stockpile plenty of bandages, gauze, tape, and large wound dressings. Even minor wounds, and their subsequent re-dressings will blow through your preps quicker than cat shit. Lots of Providine Iodine to flood large wounds and hydrogen peroxide to clean up closed ones/cuts/infected areas, neosporin to prevent infections from starting, and still more bandages, gauze, tape and large wound dressings. And that shrimp stuff to stop large hemmoriging.

  3. Grenadier1

    Sean,
    Great advice and you made my day. I will henceforth refer to Celox as “that shrimp stuff”! Awesome!

  4. Grenadier1

    Hollywood,
    Whats the minimum for the group buy look like?

  5. There really is no minimum, it’s just that you can share shipping, there was no price break at Chinoook. The Prices I posted are “list”

  6. Grenadier1

    cool thanks

  7. Good stuff. Thanks. Strongly advise looking at honey for wound care. Amazing stuff even for serious booboos – just ask the ancient Greek hoplites and Roman legionaries.

  8. Bravo CA, excellent.

  9. Grenadier1

    Daniel brings up a good point there are two classes that needs to be addressed. There is Snivel gear and Trauma gear. The list above is for Trauma and emergency situations. I think honey or any antibacterial agent would fall more into the snivel gear area or if used on serious wounds would be post tactical and long term. It is from what I hear a great anti bacterial so dont think I am shitting on that suggestion. The point is that the different classes of care should be taken care of with different gear. I dont like the idea of including Snivel gear (simple band-aids and anti itch meds) in the same kit as trauma gear. That encourages people to raid the kit when they have a little cut or need an Advil. When they raid the kit they lose shit. When you lose your “Shrimp stuff” because you were looking for some Advil you are going to be a world of hurt when you need the “Shrimp stuff”.

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  11. Good point G1. A through and through in a lung probably isn’t the time to reach for the honey.

  12. ghostsniper

    I assembled my own all purpose medical kit a few years ago and spent about $90 doing it.
    It doesn’t contain all of the serious stuff listed above but it soon will, and more.

    Rule 1 in my house, do NOT touch my shit. Ever. Period.
    If someone needs a bandaid or Neosporin or whatever, come see me, immediately. I am the doctor in my house, for people and all animals, and that’s just the way it is.

    Any violations of my one rule, and so far there haven’t been, and everyone is banned from the entire area where the kit is stored. Period.

    If anyone in my house has a problem with Rule 1 they are completely free and capable of purchasing and assembling their own kit and do with it as they see fit and they will never worry that I will touch it.

    Medical equipment is serious business and when it is needed it is needed now and it is on a different level than anything else and people will respect that logic whether they want to or not and they can thank me after the fact for being a complete dik about it.

  13. Semper Fi, 0321

    I have several IFAK’s; on my web gear, hunting packs(shooting or grizzly attack) and in the vehicles. I keep it on the outside of my gear and well marked. My day pack has an old plastic USMC first aid box that carries the snivel gear, along with a G.I. poncho and emergency sleeping bag(http://ps-med.com/products/detail.php?p=14).
    I take lots of my friends from out of state hiking in the summer, they just cannot understand why I carry so much emergercy gear with me, the thought that something could go really bad in the back country seems to escape them. Living in an area where several grizzly attacks take place every summer makes you think twice about every piece of gear you have, and how important it is when you are 10 miles into the Wilderness areas. Spending $50-150 for an IFAK is nothing compared to the panic you encounter when you realize a bandaid will not fix what a bullet or grizzly just did to you or your partner. Next to your weapon, the most important piece of gear you carry.

  14. Juliette of Ohio

    My daughter, a nurse, recommended olive oil and red wine as a germicidal wash. I now have a gallon of olive oil and several quarts of cheap red wine. Bouquet is not important here, but alcohol content is germane. The premise is to wash out the wound with the wine, then soak the bandages in olive oil and wrap. We also have quarts of Betadine and Iodine, plus hydrogen peroxide and alcohol. The hospitals are seeing so many infections that are antibiotic resistant that we’re trying the older solutions first.

  15. Thank your daughter, please. Wound management is going to be utterly critical, especially for folks who can’t really enter the medical system due to the nature/origin of their wounds.

    • Jimmy the Saint

      “especially for folks who can’t really enter the medical system due to the nature/origin of their wounds.”

      That’s why God invented silver bullion and veterinarians….

  16. Thanks, everybody, for contributing to this.
    My son is an EMT and helped me get all of the “big stuff” we (might!) need, but for little tactical kits, well….I hadn’t even thought about those.
    Thanks again!

  17. If ya haven’t searched the web for aquatic antibiotics it’d be a good idea. They are the exact same ones listed on Drugs.com for folks. And cheap.

  18. Something else for a chest seal is 3M laminate sheets. Probably more sterile than duct tape.

  19. Grenadier1

    Another side note. The current medical teaching discourage Hydrogen Peroxide for wound care because they say it damages the edge of the wounds and prolongs the healing process. This is not internet hearsay but from actual Doctors and ER folks. Now that said I would have no problem using Hydrogen Peroxide for cleaning as its cheap and can be stored for some time before it goes flat.
    I have several anti bacterial washes put up. Hydro. Betadine, Habicleanse and plain old alcohol. The only issue with using the natural versions like honey and olive oil is the tendancy to use those products as food. No one is going to drink a stash of Hydrogen Peroxide. I am however a big fan of multi-taskers so its just things to consider.

  20. Semper Fi, 0321

    Another thing I added to each of my IFAK’s was 2 -6″ Hemostats for clamping off bleeders. 1 straight, 1 curved.The last surplus store I went to had bins of different sizes for about $2 ea. The 6″ fits nicely into the IFAK pouch.

  21. ok, this went pretty well. i was trying to start people to think in terms of increasing their level of medical training and awareness to where they realize neosporin and band-aids from wal-mart, while neccessary, won’t go far in keeping them in the great north american games of 2013. once you’re committed to participating, get used to the idea that you’re going to see a good bit of bleeding. figure out how you’ll handle that aspect of it. the life you save may be mine, so get good at it.

    i dropped my leatherman once and pure dumb luck made it go straight down the outside of my thigh where it stuck about one inch in. forgot “sharp knife rule number one — don’t cut yourself”. it’s just that easy to bleed and get infected when you least expect it. even samurai learned how to dress wounds, because they knew they were doing things where they might get fatally injured. u.s r&sog call it “going into the wild places”. this was pretty useful in that direction. thanks CA, for helping stir the pot.

  22. Providione Is crap In My experience. you are better off with Tincture of Iodine which Includes Iodine and Iodide. 2% Solutions.

    Better Yet go to a vet supply and get the 7% strong Tincture.

    Thanks to our wonderful Govt. Iodine is DEA labeled a level one substance. OOOOH gotta stop those would be Meth Heads.

    Either way Iodine is restricted and removed for reasons as I believe it is one of the most essential Elements for Immune and Central Nervous Sys function. I would bore you with My long term Nerve loss now regrowing with Iodoral, But when I become King if you guys want. Free Iodine for ALL>

    As King every Man gets Select Fire and M203 Weapons to be stored at Home. Smart Men get their Own Bradley or Gavin M 113 Rally good guys get a 155 and mortars if they have some math Skills.

    All Knights must have their Own Sword though.
    REAL Men of HONOR can always be trusted to do what is necessary.
    Back to fantasy Land.
    Oh
    Walmart has plenty of the small 2% bottles I buy several every week . Try to avoid the white Iodine I have not found it as effective as the 2%, If you guys need I can buy them and Mail them to you.

    Also Trust a genius Supplement with Iodoral especially if you are polluted with Bromides and Fluoride, but be careful to detox too.
    Make you more Bug resistant and Stronger, Alert and maybe smarter but not wiser.

    GOD BLESS all of us and YOU guys and your families too.

    Just give My email to any one you trust boss. My insanity is not catching.

    Kevin