Open Thread: Bunker Books – Volume II — Cultural


Continuing the theme of what to do if/when Internet access is lost/compromised, what cultural works should all FreeFor members have on their shelves both for personal use and the training of others?

The ambitious can aim for 30 books, 30 musical performances, and 30 movies or other film/video renderings.

Include links wherever possible, please, along with full title and author/composer/director names.

43 responses to “Open Thread: Bunker Books – Volume II — Cultural

  1. I have been adding movies to a 2TB portable hard drive. I currently have over 400 full length movies as well as a great selection of audio books, PDF books including many tactical training subjects, my entire CD music collection (rock, jazz, classical), digital pictures of my family and other critical information. This can be plugged into my laptop and accessed easily, as long as there is power. I can charge the laptop with solar. Also plan on getting a projector that plugs into the laptop so if I want to have a movie night with a bunch of neighbors or other people in my group, no problem. Hang up a bed sheet for a screen and we’re ready. Boredom can become a real problem for people used to entertainment saturation. Having the entertainment can be a useful tool to help control.

  2. OK, I’ll give it a go. Books:
    The King James Bible
    University of Chicago’s “Great Books of the Western World” series
    The Encyclopedia Britannica, 1912 ed.
    The Anti-Federalist Papers
    Collected works of Burke and deToqueville
    Russell Kirk: The Portable Conservative Reader
    Collected works of Yeats and T.S. Elliot
    Les Miserables, Huckleberry Finn, Anna Karenina, The American, The Bostonians, The Sun Also Rises, For Whom the Bell Tolls, The Fountainhead, Atlas Shrugged, The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings.
    The major works of Asimov, Clarke, Niven, and Heinlein
    Eric Voeglin: The New Science of Politics
    Murray and Herrnstein: The Bell Curve
    C.S. Lewis: The Abolition of Man, Mere Christianity
    Churchill: A History of the English Speaking Peoples
    Jean Raspail: The Camp of the Saints

    Music:
    Too many to mention, so I’ll just say, any recording by Herbert von Karajan and the Berlin Philharharmonic, or any recording of the Vienna Philharmonic.

    Movies, I’m not enough of an expert to have a good opinion. At least, Firefly and Serenity, The Lord of the Rings, Master and Commander, 300, True Grit (and any other great John Wayne western).

    • Books? How about a set of Encyclopedia Brittanica or World Book? or Marks Handbook for Mechanical Engineers, or basic; Carpentry, Electric, Plumbing, Sheet Metal, Welding. Farmers Almanac. Or any old high school text book for Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry, Chemistry, Physics. The Fanny Farmer Cook Book. Emergency Care & Transportation of the Sick & Injured. Winnie the Pooh.

      • And a slide rule.

      • All true, but the topic was “Cultural”, not technical. I completely agree with the technical and engineering books you suggest, but there is more to rebuilding a functional society than setting bones and welding farm equipment.

  3. Slightly off topic, but in re “Internet access is lost/compromised”

    Ann Barnhardt.

    Nothing’s been posted on her site for the last week or so.

    I’m unable to log on to it today.

    .gov mischief or have they snatcher her up already?

    Anybody have any info?

    Thanks

    Jim

    • Jim, I have the same issue, but have pulled up the cached site and see she did post yesterday afternoon. Hope she’s OK, though.

    • Jim, I reached Barnhardt’s place yesterday, I think. She had a piece about the Feeding of the Five Thousand, the nature of miracles, and the implications of governments proclaiming they will do the mathematically or physically impossible. In short, someone asked her how the Feeding of the Five Thousand meshes with the contention that anyone claiming to circumvent math or physics is bogus. Ann answered that Jesus decided to ignore the Laws of Physics in order to feed the five thousand. It met their physical needs, but it also demonstrated His power. Having written the Laws of Physics, He could decide when to adhere to them and when not to do so. States and people, however, have no such prerogative. When they claim to do the impossible, they claim to be God. I can’t reach her site today, however.

  4. Jim,

    I’m guessing the bill came due for her internet hosting of her site, and since she had her bank account confiscated by the IRS (she posted a snapshot of the theft), it could be assumed that the bill went unpaid, hence, no site.

    Awful. A serious loss.

  5. Between my wife and I, we have thousands of books acquired over the years. Some that are just above pulp fiction are recycled to others, but the real meaty ones and the non-fiction remain on our shelves.

  6. Off topic: Drudge has this.

    LA Cops: they took 40 minutes to harass this lady who was sitting in her car. Two officers felt they needed to taser a 50 year old woman who was doing nothing, 3 TIMES. She was not, it turned out, under the influence of anything. (But had some weed in her car (unless Johnny Taser planted it after-the-fact to give them some excuse for their ridiculous behavior)

    Those are some Macho Bad-Ass Cops there! America’s bravest, I’ll say! Cops just like tasers.

    http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/11/19/caught-on-camera-woman-goes-into-cardiac-arrest-during-traffic-stop/

  7. Films:
    1984 – the 1954 BBC original, available on youtube – save to disk
    Dr Zhivago
    The Manchurian Candidate – original
    Metropolis – 1927 version, silent with english subtitles
    The Parallax View
    The Time Machine – original
    Loose Change (full version)
    Freedom to Fascism
    The 300
    The Endurance – Sir Edward Shackleton’s Voyage

    Writers:
    Rudyard Kipling
    Mark Twain

    Books additional to earlier list:
    Molon Labe’
    Hologram of Liberty
    Boston’s Gun Bible

    Neither Predator nor Prey

    itor

  8. A Bible, version irrelevant as long as it a direct translation and hasn’t been paraphrased or modernized. Of course, more would be better.
    The Complete Works of William Shakespeare
    Blackstone’s Commentaries
    Robert’s Rules of Order
    Federalist Papers
    Anti-Federalist Papers
    John Locke’s Second Treatise of Civil Government
    Beowulf
    Tolkien (all of it)
    Lewis (again, all of it)
    Sun Tzu’s The Art of War
    Heinlein (take your pick, hard to go wrong)

    For younger readers:
    Laura Ingalls Wilder and Louisa May Alcott
    The Time Quartet by Madeleine L’Engle
    The Dark is Rising Sequence by Susan Cooper

    My personal store of books to not leave behind looks a lot like that.

  9. Colorado Pete

    Movies:

    The Lord of the Rings trilogy: The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, The Return of the King
    300
    The Last Samurai
    The 13th Warrior
    Zulu
    Northwest Passage
    Tombstone
    Band of Brothers series
    They Were Expendable
    Twelve O’clock High
    Battleground
    The Searchers
    Sergeant York
    Ben-Hur
    Spartacus
    Gladiator
    And many more I’m sure.

    Books, I mentioned in the part 1 post.

  10. The Aubrey-Maturin sea novels by Patrick O’Brian. Movies: Lord of the Rings series and The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. Music: Messiah by Handel

  11. If I were to seriously take on this task I would go a bit different route.
    Concentrate on math, engineering, agriculture, medicine, and the sciences including the military sciences. Yeah there will be bibles and inspirational books but lets face it without our ability to make tools and use our minds we are just weak apes.

    • So, Rhodes, can I ask you please to give some of those titles?

      I’ll do my best to accumulate exactly those kinds of texts.

      Thanks in advance.

      • Ah making me work now err CA?
        Exact titles are flexible but lets see… nothing sexy here BTW… lets just kind of do the self teaching type of books…

        How Things Work
        Calculus For Dummies
        Geometry and Trigonometry for Calculus
        Practical Algebra: A Self-Teaching Guide
        Teach Yourself Electricity and Electronics
        Fundamentals of Aerodynamics
        Fundamentals of Engineering Thermodynamics
        Fundamentals of Metal Working
        Fundamentals of Carpentry
        Agriculture for Beginners

        Military Books well most folks have their favorites but I doubt the world will need another copy of Sun Tzu but might need Military Strategy: Principles, Practices, and Historical Perspectives. There is a LOT out there.

        Now more advanced reference works is going to require more work to evaluate.

        Well anyway that’s my idea for what it is worth.

          • None needed CA, it was not much of an effort. After the first of the year I will try to make a list worthy of the effort to acquire and store it.
            I always wondered what five books were taken at the end of “The Time Machine”. My inner nerd is showing I know.

  12. Any technical texts, old cookbooks, Barnacle Parp’s Chainsaw guide, etc. Just meander through your local used book store from time to time and pick up a couple interesting/practical each time. You’ll know them when you see them. Even when you are not personally interested, grab a few for the benefit of the tribe…

  13. I think the first Matrix was a valuable movie. If you are looking for the bright spots in our culture, Gone With the Wind (book and movie) should be on anybody’s list. I think all of the Little House on the Prairie books should be mandatory and I recently discovered a boy version, Ralph Moody’s Little Britches series. I like watching It’s a Wonderful Life, A Christmas Story, Sound of Music, My Fair Lady, Wizard of Oz, etc. with my kids. I guess it depends on what you are trying to preserve but the greatest hit movies of all time can not be a bad start. For example, my kids were also pleasantly surprised to discover the John Wayne movies, the Schwarzenegger movies, and the Clint Eastwood movies because they are new to them. Life sometimes needs some entertainment. Shoot, if you are looking for entertainment for the young kids in your tribe, the Harry Potter movies and the Twilight movies are probably pretty good to have. Like I said, it depends on what you are trying to preserve. But Laura Ingalls Wilder books have to be represented because that is the embodiment of who we were at our best as a people.

  14. Winston Churchill’s 4 book series “The History of the English Speaking Peoples.”

  15. Cassandra (of Troy)

    The Oxford English Dictionary in print or on CD-ROM

    http://public.oed.com/about/the-oed-in-print-and-on-cd-rom/

    So the kids will be able to learn what was once the primary language of what was once their country, & also be able to read/understand the books/other materials they’ll be exposed to

    Hubble’s Universe: Greatest Discoveries and Latest Images

    So the accomplishments of what was once the best damned country on Earth won’t be forgotten & maybe, someday, repeated

    John Wayne/America, Why I Love Her

    Supplements the above & for the same reason, but w/o the sappy false pride of Lee Greenwood

    Allman Brothers/Beginnings

    So the short-haired ‘white’ (& non-‘white’) kids will know that long-haired ‘white’ guys could do the blues as well as anybody

    Humble Pie/Rockin’ The Fillmore

    So the kids will know that old style hard rock existed before AC/DC

    Classical Thunder – The Time-Life Library of Classical Favorites/3 CD Box Set

    So the kids will know that rock & yahoo boogie aren’t the only kinds of music

    King Crimson/In the Court of the Crimson King

    So the kids will know that ‘weird’ music can also be good music despite what the adults say

    Cassandra (of Troy)

    • Cassandra (of Troy)

      Addendum

      Movies/Westerns

      Red River/Regular Screen Version
      Cowboy/Regular Screen Version
      The Cowboys/Deluxe Edition
      Will Penny
      (An unromantic dose of reality about the cowboy life & the West similar to Josey Wales/The Civil War)
      Shane/Regular Screen Version
      Winchester 73/Regular Screen Version
      3:10 To Yuma, 1957/Regular Screen Version
      High Noon Collector’s Edition/Regular Screen
      The Tin Star
      The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
      True Grit/Special Collector’s Edition
      Big Jake
      The Shootist
      The Magnificent Seven/Special Edition
      The Big Country
      Shenandoah
      McLintock!/Make sure it’s the authorized Wayne family dvd as there are knock-offs
      The Sons of Katie Elder
      No Name on the Bullet
      High Plains Drifter
      Once Upon A Time In The West
      Geronimo, An American Legend/Regular Screen

      (The following are comedies, believe or not)
      The Hallelujah Trail
      The Good Guys and the Bad Guys
      There Was A Crooked Man
      Catlow
      Something Big
      My Name Is Nobody
      The Villain
      Evil Roy Slade
      (All of the above have a lot of valuable life lessons in them that imo should be preserved)

      Military

      The Warlord
      El Cid/2 disc Deluxe Edition
      Khartoum
      Breaker Morant
      Lawrence of Arabia/Collector’s Edition
      The Court-Martial of Billy Mitchell/Regular Screen
      The Sand Pebbles
      Once An Eagle
      Gallipoli
      The Young Lions
      Tora! Tora! Tora!/2 disc Collector’s Edition
      From Here To Eternity/Regular Screen Version
      Play Dirty
      The Man Who Never Was/Regular Screen
      The Longest Day/2 disc Collector’s Edition
      Go For Broke!/Regular Screen
      The Tuskegee Airmen
      In Their Own Words: The Tuskegee Airmen
      The Big Red One – The Reconstruction: 2 disc Special Edition
      The Night of the Generals
      Combat!/TV Series
      (Don’t dismiss this, while not nearly as graphic & intensely personal as Band of Brothers, it shows a lot more of war’s usually ‘overlooked’ aspects like friendly fire, cowardice, & that the French weren’t always Noble Allies)
      Patton/2 disc Collector’s Edition
      The Last Days of Patton
      Joseph Stalin: Red Terror
      Midway/Collector’s Edition
      In Harm’s Way
      The Bridge on the River Kwai
      Farewell to the King
      MacArthur
      The Best Years of Our Lives/Regular Screen
      The 7th Dawn
      Dark of the Sun
      The Wild Geese
      We Were Soldiers
      The Green Berets
      The Siege of Firebase Gloria
      Hamburger Hill – 20th Anniv Edition
      Full Metal Jacket
      The Ballad of Andy Crocker
      First Blood
      (Andy Crocker & First Blood are, imo, the Nam version of The Best Years of Our Lives)
      The Killing Fields
      S21 – Khmer Rouge Killing Machine/Regular Screen
      The Beast/Regular Screen
      (The Red Army in Afghanistan)
      (As before, LOTS of valuable lessons here)

      Cassandra (of Troy)

      • Colorado Pete

        C of T,
        Awesome western list. Only one of which I haven’t seen.
        The original True Grit was filmed in southwestern Colorado. Beautiful scenery. I’ve stood in the meadow where the four-on-one showdown was filmed.

        The Combat! TV series was magnificent.

        • Cassandra (of Troy)

          Colorado Pete/25Nov12@21:06,

          Thanx, CP, I tried to put the Westerns in as close to a timeline order as possible, same for the Mil. ALL have LOTS of moral/ethical/behavioral lessons in them that I believe are worth preserving/passing on, even the comedies of which I omitted Waterhole #3 which (imo) was/is hilarious. If you want to go nuts, check out the prices at Amazon. As Dr. Smith wailed,: “The pain, The Pain!”. No joke. GOTTA win that damned Lottery!

          COMBAT! was/is indeed a fantastic show that’s regularly overlooked/dismissed & since Band of Brothers has been all but forgotten. Yeah, there’s not much of the gore of war in it & the language/behavior’s not as ‘realistic’ as in BoB, but then I don’t recall seeing many of the situations shown in COMBAT! in BoB like the ones I mentioned. I remember 2 BoB FF incidents (on the railroad tracks at night, the drunken pvt shooting 2 Brits & Grant) while C! had I think 2-4 w/ one being a true heartbreaker where Caje cleared a house w/ a grenade & accidently killed a girl’s father. Turned out that the Nazis had previously shot her mother & Caje (already freaked out by Papa’s death) nearly lost it entirely after hearing that news & came close to popping the girl by reflex as he was waiting at her barge to tell her what happened. Don’t recall seeing ANY of that in BoB even though it assuredly occurred, & I’ve been told of such by WW2 vets from the ETO & PTO who’re STILL broken up about it. Thought about including Soldier/Kurt Russell but wasn’t sure if it’d be considered mil or just sci-fi, damned fine movie, as is Enemy Mine & Dune/Kyle MacLachlan.

          The selfish & callous attitudes of the French toward each other/U.S. troops is yet another thing that’s commonly left out of WW2 portrayals, where in C! it was a regular theme. Nope, in BoB the people were glad to see the Americans & the troops did things the right way 90+% of the time resulting in an equally impressive success rate, simply amazing. Tell ya what though, it sure didn’t hurt to have leadership like Winters, Compton, Lipton, Randleman, Martin, & the (imo) wonderfully cold-blooded ‘Wild Bill’ Guarnere & Speirs. Those 2 (again imo) are the kind I’d like to have for my superiors as they get what the deal is & like Patton don’t worry about the ‘niceties’ of warfare,: You simply find then kill the enemy w/ the least effort & amount of risk possible until you run out of them/get stopped by injury, death/hostilities end. And the best part’s the aforementioned like it when their subordinate’s rack up a high tally, works for me!

          I’m hesitant to do more lists as I don’t want to hog the topic, I’ve got some titles that’re likely either unthought/unheard of & between you, itor, & me a lot of ground’s covered. Books alone would take up WAY too much by my standards, & many of ‘em likely wouldn’t be all that interesting to a great many here. My taste is a bit, eclectic, or if you prefer, odd, so I put what I thought would be a reasonable selection in the first one. After all, the Man said bunker & I’m quite sure that his definition didn’t mean 1/5 of say, the Sangre de Cristos. Btw, what of the Westerns hadn’t you seen?

          Cassandra (of Troy)

          • Cassandra (of Troy)

            Addendum/Colorado Pete,

            The scenery in True Grit was indeed beautiful, reminded me of a 1964 Wonderful World of Disney movie titled One Day at Teton Marsh. Utterly, stunningly, magnificent scenery, blew my CenCal socks off even w/ the Sierras close by, gave me the ‘mountain bug’ which is still as strong as when I saw that flick as a kid & Denver’s Country Roads & Rocky Mountain High only re-inforced the mania. It’s so deep that if I could do it, I’d be cremated & have my ashes loaded into an airburst fused 105 round then fired into the prettiest part of the Tetons. Other than out by Procyon, Regulus, or in the heart of Andromeda, I can’t think of a nicer final resting place.

            More proof of the depth of my oddity!

            C (oT)

            • Colorado Pete

              C of T, welcome to the ‘odd club’. I don’t suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it….

              Actually 3 of those westerns I haven’t seen. No Name on the Bullet, The Tin Star, and Geronimo, plus I haven’t seen the 1957 3:10 to Yuma (saw the recent remake though).

              And you left out probably the greatest western of all time: The Searchers.
              Some of the semi-older ones like “Man Without a Star” and “Last Train to Gun Hill” (both starring Kirk Douglas IIRC) were pretty darn good too.

              I seem to be addicted to certain movies. I can (and do) watch “The Lord of Rings” and BoB over and over again without ever getting tired of them. Weird.

              If you’re curious, the “True Grit” Rooster Cogburn/Lucky Ned Pepper gang showdown location used to be found on Google. In southwest CO, find Durango, go north on 550 to Ridgway, north to Ridgway State Park/Ridgway Reservoir. Go straight east from there to find Silver Jack Reservoir. Zoom in on Silver Jack (jaw-dropping beautiful by the way) and follow the County road 858 south past the east side of it, south to where Co. road 860 heads west then south. Co. rd. 8 branches off and goes west, zigzags over Owl Creek Pass (not labeled). Google used to show the actual clearing next to the zigzags on the north side just west of the pass summit, it doesn’t anymore. But that’s where it was. Straight south of there is Chimney Rock. That is the big rectangular rock peak seen behind Robert Duval as he and the bandits rode into the clearing and stopped. Beautiful place.

              I’ve vacationed in CenCal East side, Mono Lake – Death Valley, in ’84 and ’89. Loved it. Would love to take another trip out there and cover some more ground. As long as I could escape back out when I was done. Though, Colorado is getting thoroughly Californicated these days….

              • Cassandra (of Troy)

                Colorado Pete/27Nov12@01:30,

                For No Name on the Bullet, think of Max Von Sydow’s character in 3 Days of the Condor set in the West & played by Audie Murphy. A fabulous study of human nature, see it & you’ll quite likely want it, same for The Tin Star. One of Henry Fonda’s finest roles, right up there w/ Gary Cooper/High Noon, fantastic flick. The original 3:10 To Yuma’s yet another movie well worth seeing & like the previous is again a study containing lots of moral lessons, Geronimo too is like that along w/ a dose of the other side of the ‘Great Western Conquest’ that was briefly shown in Josey Wales & expanded on in Two Rode Together/Stewart & Widmark.

                I left out The Searchers because it never did much for me, too much melodrama for my taste which is also why Duel In The Sun didn’t make the cut, but the same can be said for High Noon, We Were Soldiers, & a great many other films that I really like & either have or want. As far as ‘addiction’ goes I’m the same way about some movies, the bad part’s that some are so impacting that I have to wait for years in some cases before re-viewing them as almost every part’s burned into my memory. L.A. Confidential, Charley Varrick, The Seven Ups, The Friends of Eddie Coyle, & some others I can watch repeatedly w/o problems but Lawrence of Arabia, Once Upon A Time in the West, THEM!, & a bunch more are in that aforementioned ‘wait awhile’ category.

                Then there’re those like Old Yeller, Moulin Rouge, The Four Feathers/TV version w/ Beau Bridges, & What Dreams May Come for example that’re in the ‘see once & never again’ category because they tear me up too much to watch more than once even though I love ‘em & either have or want them. Sissified maybe, but that’s the way some flix hit me.

                Thanx for the directions to the True Grit area, I’d love to see it providing it hasn’t been ‘reserved’ like so much of the West has been. You’d be shocked at what’s happened to Mono/Owens Valley, the following’s a taste.:

                Telling It Like It Is — and Was

                http://articles.latimes.com/1992-01-25/entertainment/ca-524_1_mono_lake

                Mono Lake

                http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-mono-pg%2Co%2C7833167.photogallery

                But that’s okay, L.A.’s gotta have what it ‘needs’, & 95% of the water/power isn’t too much to ask in recompense for all the wonderful things SoCal/the Bay Area do to, uh, FOR the rest of Cal, right?

                Exfil from the P.D.R.C.’s not too troublesome, the thing is not to get stuck in the first place because once that happens it’s a bloody b***h to get out unless one has the means which most don’t, & thus why so many of us are still here & likely to remain so. Make sure to have enough financial & physical protection to avoid entrapment by the Cali Tarbaby, enjoy yourself while you’re here, beat feet back out as fast as possible, & when you’ve crossed the stateline outbound be sure to pull over & leave a urinary token of your esteem for the P.D.R.C. on the You Are Leaving California sign. Be assured that if I’m somehow allowed to split I’ll do so, at minimum.

                Re: CO’s ‘Californication’, now you know how WE & FL/AZ/NM/et al feel. FL’s NY’s southern annex, Cal/AZ/NM are the western ones w/ CO & MT going that way, & half of the fault for that’s OURS. Lefty trash are easy to drive off as they’re generally cowards & can’t take spirited/sustained rejection, what’s harder to handle is the corrosive effect of the money &/or celebrity they bring. But it not only can be done it SHOULD be done, all that’s necessary is the will to do it, & that’s pretty much the fact about most things isn’t it.

                Cassandra (of Troy)

  16. All fine and good, but where are the guides and resources for the moral and spiritual (and in my case,Christian) refinement, and formation of the next generation? Or are we being too politically correct to get into that?

    • Cassandra (of Troy)

      BobbyD/25Nov12@19:16,

      How about The Bible (In The Beginning), The Ten Commandments, The Story of Ruth, Ben Hur, The Robe, King of Kings, A Man for All Seasons, The Miracle of Our Lady of Fatima, The Song of Brenadette, & an absolute & seldom remembered gem titled The Next Voice You Hear as examples of positive values, BobbyD?

      You there, BobbyD? Hello?? Anyone??? Buehler????

      (Cue crickets & wind noise)

      Figgrz.

      Cassandra (of Troy)

      • Cassandra (of Troy)

        ‘The Song of Brenadette’? Aye yi yi, hurried finnerz & superficial review makes for stupid results they do.

        Yet another lesson to be learned, & implemented.

        C (o T)

  17. C(oT)………Having trouble with this website, trying to get back to prior threads, but finally, here we are. After my first post this webmaster wrote back and said “fire away”. So I did, and sent a half dozen suggestions. Did he approve and post them? No, they were filtered out. Can’t get into that spiritual stuff, might ruffle some feathers. Better to stick with Hollywood. I wouldn’t have expected that here.

    Yes, yours are good choices. Lets see many more solid resources for our future generations. We are going to need them. You mentioned the miracle of Fatima. Lets remember that the miracle was only a manifestation at the end of the apparitions to prove that they were truly miraculous. The message is the important part, and it applies to our time just as much as then. The message from Akita (Japan) pretty much sums it all up; we are now about to face His justice.