More Conversations With Normal People

Stick a fork in it.

We’re done.

Time to embrace the horror.

Not with a bang, but a whimper.

29 responses to “More Conversations With Normal People

  1. Okay, Fred. That was very entertaining and on point. It would be very funny if it were not so tragic. But, what is the answer. Ridicule is fine, but where is the suggestion of a solution? We are not done and it is not over IF and that’s my big IF, we can get behind a real leader who will stand up for the Constitution and a return to fiscal sanity. Ron Paul is the best we have so far. Before I throw up my hands and write in Charlie Sheen on the ballot, I will support this eccentric old doctor who is trying to pull us back towards the America I once knew.

    • WarriorClass III

      Fred’s got his hands full with all that verbal masterbation he does so often, yet with out any result other than, well, feeling himself – again.

      I’m really embarassed for him, and those that think, like he does, that he feels real good.

      He’s a jerk-off. What did you expect?

  2. JM,

    The Doctor can’t help: Americans will refuse the necessary treatment until they bleed out. All they want is another painkiller prescription. And maybe something to make it so they can sleep at night.

  3. Only a sufficient level of pain will get the masses moving.


  4. Ignorance is bliss until realty sets in, this must end badly.

    • Jimmy the Saint

      “Ignorance is bliss”

      And patience is a virtue.

      The lesson? If you’re stupid and don’t mind waiting, you will have a great life.

  5. Seriously, thanks for the laugh.

    All a man can do is smile back!

    Anyhow, remember this. There are more of them than there are of us. Being on the defense all the time will just get you killed.

  6. Let’s not get stuck between Mencken quotes and the ghosts of Vietnam.

  7. From the Fred On Everything article:

    “A wing-nut Christian”
    “May God save us from Christianity.”
    “I thought of all the Mormon missionaries I had seen in various countries, black-suited in Taiwan in August, peddling around like bicycle-borne undertakers, earnest, solemn, living in some eerie head-bubble inaccessible to outsiders. Oh help.”

    This is a stream of bigotry and contempt for the Christian faith worse than any I’ve encountered outside a New Black Panthers rally. And you respect and cite this frothing-at-the-mouth tirade as something worthy of a thinking person’s time?

    I shall refrain from asking why.

    • WarriorClass III

      Fred has all the writing skills of a clever 7th grader, and the brain to match it; in addition to being a jerk-off.

      I won’t ask CA why either; I’m too disturbed by the fact that he even linked to this guy.

  8. Sometimes, GardenSerf, and Curtis, I am just really glad you two are around, and that you say the things you do. Mr. Porretto, you should be well aware by now, that to be a Christian is to be a Target.

  9. I don’t know if it is to be Christian is to be a target? I think to have any principles at all, is to be a target.

  10. damaged justice

    Please include a warning that a page is going to automatically play a video when I go to it without any further action on my part. If I wanted your webpage to make a noise, I would have licked my finger and rubbed it across the damn monitor.

  11. Christian? Hmmmm… I think the AmeriKanized version of Christianity deserves every single licking that is handed out to it. In fact, I think it is very richly deserved.

    Maybe you believe that if every single person inside the borders of AmeriKa were the AmeriKanized version of Christians … we wouldn’t be where we are today?

    Do you honestly believe that most AmeriKanized Christians support liberty and the responsibility that comes with it, the constitution as it was intended, fair and equal justice? Do you think that the AmeriKanized Christians do NOT support by and large the police state?

    And just maybe the government has become the Mother of all charities because the Americanized version of Christianity is severally lacking in charity itself?

    And just watch what the AmeriKanized version of Christianity will give us this coming election.

    Do you think that the AmeriKanized version of Christianity, is somehow exempt from the same judgements of the Jews who were lead out of Egypt to the promised land and were told to OCCUPY the land and didn’t?

    And didn’t God tell the Jews that if they strayed from his laws and judgement … that they would be … MOCKED by their enemies?

    And does not Jesus say, “I never knew you”?

    Remember how their was always a remnant in Israel who served God who were surrounded by the Baal worshipers and yet suffered Gods judgement of the Nation just the same? That is to say, that yes, in AmeriKa, there is a remnant. Unfortunately, their presence is clouded by the AmeriKanized version of… get this… the AmeriKanized version of Christianity.

    Meh. Man, lets all go look in the mirror… huh?

  12. I think the reason Fred mocks their ‘religiousity’ is that these are the sort of people who will stand in a busy public place and invoke the national deity and all that entails. I have no particular interest in Ron Paul – but I do understand him to be a christian and yet I’ve hardly ever seen him play that particular card in any way that could be construed as fawning to his audience.

    JM @02:52 – “we can get behind a real leader…
    The devil is in the details – I’m sure – but I don’t see any help coming from those quarters. I’d even betcha’ that kind of thinking has a lot to do with ‘where we’re at’. From the potus to the local dogcatcher – these people are SERVANTS – anything more is a recipe for the SOS.

    If you can understand what Freedom is – you probably already know what you have to do. You probably also already know that freedom is so maligned in this country that claiming your own freedom is going to be a serious uphill battle. Take a piece for yourselves and never look back.

    • Plugnickel: You are right. I stand, once again, rebuked. I’ll get back to my preps and my tribe. The system is totally broken.

  13. ….if we can get behind a real leader who will stand up for the Constitution and a return to fiscal sanity….

    My problem with all of that is threefold.
    1) I ain’t a follower.
    2) It ain’t my contract.
    3) I’ll handle my own fiscal concerns but thanks just the same.

    Seems most people just don’t get it.
    They are looking for an easy answer for the problems stemming from an habitually lazy ass.

    The root of the problem is laziness and dishonesty, both a product of two of the basest human emotions/motivations: fear and greed. To state it another way: humanity involves, most simply, the conscious and principled discipline and control of fear and greed, which one has no choice but to experience as a higher biological organism.

    A good way to think about how the non-human homo sapiens respond to fear and greed is that they seek to hoard profits and spread losses. The chief motivation is laziness and chief tool to satisfy all is dishonesty. The interesting thing about dishonesty — self, other directed, and institutionalized — is that the better one is at it (the more dishonest) the less detectable and more powerful it is.

    What’s interesting about laziness is how hard people work at not producing tradeable values. Consider a bum on the exit ramp day in, day out. I’ve seen some of them work their asses off at begging in the hot, cold, and rain for years on end. How much easier it would be to work at a job.

    It’s the labor theory of value. The lazy look to a world where raw physical activity, disconnected from any other requirements, is of paramount value.

    To look at it in its plainest form, there are those advocating that some fears are just too great not to force others to pay for general anesthesia, and the argument turns on which anesthesia and in what dosage is most “efficient” and “useful.” Hey, maybe we can “privatize” the production and delivery of it, which still doesn’t address the root laziness, dishonesty, individual responsibility or accountability.

    Then there are those, “the nouveaux ancaps,” who rightfully understand that you can’t hold consistently to individualist principle and advocate any degree of state coercion, but have failed to understand that the state is an effect of a deeper problem. They think that you have to win friends and influence people by trying to explain that life would be so much better without the state.

    But you can’t truly understand anarchism until you accept that it doesn’t matter what society “would be like” without the state.

    It’s not the issue.

    The issue is that nobody has any right to chain me to their fears or satisfy their greed at my involuntary expense and anyone who thinks otherwise, even just a little tine bit can just go fuck right off and there’s simply no kind way to put that.

  14. To those that malign Fred, he has been there, done that(unlike most keyboard warriors), and speaks truth(often through satire which some don’t appreciate or understand), , Marine, Nam, Purple Heart.

    • Jimmy the Saint

      Much he same could be said for an Austrian corporal with two awards of the Iron Cross. It doesn’t really mean that either has a good take on the world.

      • Or for that highly decorated young naval officer who so valiantly served in the brown water navy and bearing wounds (and related paperwork) to prove it. You remember him, he recently ran for president?

        Jimmy t S is right. Having served is commendable, it means at least you got off your ass and raised your hand and you’ve got minimum of discipline ground into you somewhere. But this “precious, rare snowflake” thinking about veterans stinks of new age and Dept of Education thinking. Sorry, fellow veterans, but being in the club of 20 odd million doesn’t give you an auto-pass in my book.

        two things: If Fred wants to denigrate Christians and spout idiocy
        1) I doubt the Marine Corps taught him this shit
        2) he can damn sure do it without me and my support.

  15. Yep, Fred found out the hard way, too. That doesn’t affect the veracity of the statements here. I still dislike his writing, and still agree that the consistent act of complaining to the choir is extremely tiresome.

  16. Well, guess its point of view and your perspective and background. I don’t think Fred is complaining, he just comments with humor on events from his point of view. Events which appear to be the terminal stage of events for the empire. History always comes full circle as Tytler noted. Probably since he and I are the same age and have some similar things for background, I find his writing refreshing and entertaining, hard to find truth these days. Perhaps you will agree in a few more years when you have a similar perspective.

  17. I dig Fred. Must be the jarhead thing we gots in common. Intelligent smart-asses get shit done. Take from him what works and discard the rest if you are so inclined…

  18. @plug nickel outfit:
    I’d even betcha’ that kind of thinking has a lot to do with ‘where we’re at’.

    Lazy people looking to others to solve all of their problems, no matter if they have to lie, cheat, steal and murder or not to get it done.

    You have a shitty system, *democracy* (the idea that the minority bow to the majority), ran by criminal *politicians* (that are accountable to no one), chosen by *votists* with their emotional basketcase heads in their collective asses, marketed by a purchased media system.

    Sounds like something out of a Crichton/Grisham/Koontz novel.

    The only surprising part about any of this is that it hasn’t exploded already.


  19. I positively agree, Curtis, with your evaluation of the “Americanized Chrisitanity”. I would also say it is a pointless, plastic, country club sham. They do give a lot of money to missions and charities, but is very much, “Here ya go, hope it turns out okay”. One of the major kinks to that is that they donate to communist/socialist shade organizations, that spend the money any way they want, and often give it straight to “liberation” groups. And of course these orgs. are in complete opposition to any republic. It is all just so lame and spiritless. I understand Freds’ perspective, and what the hell, everybody has their opinion.