Mark Steyn marvels at the bleating American masses.
We have it coming.
And come it will.
Alea iacta est.
I leave it up to govt. to fuck things up, and to make us look stupid. After “it” gets started, I’m through arguing about stuff. These blindos are going to make great cover, for a while, anyway.
Even after the fall, the masses will be clueless that their own stupidity was at fault. Reading comments on Yahoo news and others is a surefire way to see that the country will always stay in a state of chaos. So many truly believe the fedfov is the right hand of god, always working for the good of the citizenry. Their wake-up call will prove fatal.
Like Sean says, they will make great bait while the smart ones move out.
It’s coming, and we’ll get it good and hard…just as we deserve.
At the end of the day, the government still offers people something. Sure, it will run out at some point, but they at least get something in the short term.
Unless and until someone can offer a better deal, people will stick with Leviathan.
The gov’t offers a barrel of cheap lies, bought expensively, that brain dead, cowardly idiots crave. fuk em ded
And the forces of liberty offer what, exactly? Insults to everyone who doesn’t immediately arm up and demand revolution, insults to those who do from those who wish to wait, insults to those who wish to wait.
Yes, the gummint will screw the average guy in the end, but at least they’ll tell him he’s pretty and bring him flowers. Like it or not, that goes a long way.
Who are you really?
Devils Advocate sure comes to mind. Not a comment goes by that you don’t have to side with the opposition. Which in some ways isn’t bad. Even we get a “fair and balanced” audience.
Jimmy the Works.
Yup, you got me. Paid government operative, in the flesh.
I’m merely pointing out that liberty-minded folks seem to have adopted the Underpants Gnome Theory of Rebellion/Restoration:
1. Triggering Event
3. People flock to our side and we win
There’s a pretty big flaw in that line of thinking.
Did he side with the opposition or did he try to explain what’s being faced? Seems like a big difference to me.
It also seems to me that if feel-good gangery is the goal, then Govco already offers a very refined version of that.`
Jimmy, me boyo, if there aren’t insults and provocations being thrown around, then it’s tame times we live in indeed. I can remember the 50’s when I was young, and nobody insulted or provoked much. Mostly only when they wanted to bring on a fight. Ah, do ye detect the sweet odor of why folks are so Irish these days? Throw that in with everyones’ frustration, anger and fear, and you got a pot of what nobody calls gold. After the “Big Change”, look for a re-birth of manners and congeniality.
It’s not insults that are the problem, in and of themselves. They have a purpose, and they can provoke people to action.
The problem is that there is basically *only* insults being directed toward the bulk of the population. There isn’t much effort (at least that I can see) being made to sell the idea of why freedom/liberty are the way to go. The Founding Fathers did a pretty good job of that – they won the propaganda battle. Granted, they had it a bit easier, in that in their day, freedom/liberty were probably a lot closer to the default position than is the case today. Most people now will default to get along/go along.
The bulk of the population are mindless zombies.Trying to be nice to the populace is easier said than done. Over the last several years I’ve seen how people react to my purchases and comments at the bank, cashregister, etc. Throw out some innocent comment or reference to doing things on your own, not paying in the normal way(FRNs), not wanting to give out your SSN, etc, and they call you names because you just did something outside their zone of knowledge or comfort. Some places won’t even take cash anymore, question them and you get told off. Can’t tell you how many told me”You’re goin’ to jail!” before they even know what I’m doing(refusal to give SSN)! That is what I call stupid. They don’t know history, they don’t know the law and then they call me names? Being nice and trying to teach people is over. The world is full of guppies who get eaten by bigger fish. Tough shit.
Read some of the journals of early america, most of the folks were very illiterate. So just like today, the masses just went along with what they were told to do, contrary to what you may wish to believe. We never had a ‘golden age’ where literacy bloomed and they all knew how to think on their own. As I said, their wake-up call will prove to be fatal, can’t change that. Sorry.
“Being nice and trying to teach people is over. The world is full of guppies who get eaten by bigger fish. Tough shit.”
So….mass deportations or mass executions, then? If we can’t persuade the masses to join the liberty movement – or at the very least, stay out of the fray – they’ll have to be removed, one way or the other. But beyond that, it is strategic suicide to casually write off the bulk of the population – no resistance movement can even hope to survive without extensive popular support.
“Read some of the journals of early america, most of the folks were very illiterate. So just like today, the masses just went along with what they were told to do, contrary to what you may wish to believe. We never had a ‘golden age’ where literacy bloomed and they all knew how to think on their own.”
If that is the case, then someone needs to be out there getting the masses to go along with the liberty program. A charismatic leader would be very useful in this capacity.
I never said one single word to infer they needed to be eliminated. That came out of your brain, and keyboard. Stop trying to lead this into a discussion of genocide.
People too dumb to see what is going on around them usually get run over by a truck, or tidal wave, and never saw it coming. The FSA will eventually run them over, or they will die off from mass starvation. Or any combination of events. Every nation that goes through disaster ends up losing out to the laws of averages. What makes us so special? Because we’re Americans?
Out of over a dozen immediate family members, my father and his father were the only two to survive WW2. Why?
“There isn’t much effort (at least that I can see) being made to sell the idea of why freedom/liberty are the way to go.”
I wish that were the problem, but I’m highly skeptical that it is. Even in the mainstream, there are plenty of outlets (talk radio for one) that have been preaching “smaller government” and their odd interpretations of liberty for a long time. No avail.
There are hundreds or thousands of blogs that give a semi-sane view of what’s going on. No avail. There’s common sense and even a rudimentary knowledge of history. No avail.
Anyone with half a wit already understands. The problem is that too many don’t even have a half a wit. They want this. They like this. They’ll go for it time and time again and it ain’t gonna stop until they just fall over and die because they never figured out how to keep themselves alive.
I mean, a rational person doesn’t ever stop trying to persuade, but neither does he ignore reality. It’s a mess and it’s going to get worse. It’s hard to have a cold heart toward those whom you know aren’t going to make it, but I just don’t see any alternative. There are too many who do understand and plan to keep imposing this madness. That’s challenge enough, I think.
We’re well past the “tipping point” IMO. This is what it looks like when a civilization fails. It’s tragic and it’s sad, but personally I don’t see much choice for a rational person but to accept things as they are, and try to move on. That means living, and living means winning.
I generally agree with your position, but I would take issue with the idea that various sources preaching small government are providing anything like a coherent, organized message on the benefits of liberty. It’s all very piecemeal, and unfortunately, often contradictory. The collectivists are much better at message control.
I also think the tipping point is in our rearview mirror, so there is definitely value in setting up refuges and redoubts, but there’s also value in trying to shore up the numbers of supporters, too. Even if it is only passive support, every little bit helps.
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