Bracken: When The Music Stops – How America’s Cities May Explode In Violence

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From Matt Bracken:

In response to recent articles in mainstream military journals discussing the use of the U.S. Army to quell insurrections on American soil, I offer an alternate vision of the future. Instead of a small town in the South as the flash point, picture instead a score of U.S. cities in the thrall of riots greater than those experienced in Los Angeles in 1965 (Watts), multiple cities in 1968 (MLK assassination), and Los Angeles again in 1992 (Rodney King). New Yorkers can imagine the 1977 blackout looting or the 1991 Crown Heights disturbance. In fact, the proximate spark of the next round of major riots in America could be any from a long list cribbed from our history.

We have seen them all before, and we shall see them all again as history rhymes along regardless of the century or the generation of humankind nominally in control of events. But the next time we are visited by widespread, large-scale urban riots, a dangerous new escalation may be triggered by a fresh vulnerability: It’s estimated that the average American home has less than two weeks of food on hand. In poor minority areas, it may be much less. What if a cascading economic crisis, even a temporary one, leads to millions of EBT (electronic benefit transfer) cards flashing nothing but ERROR? This could also be the result of deliberate sabotage by hackers, or other technical system failures. Alternatively, the government might pump endless digits into the cards in a hopeless attempt to outpace future hyperinflation. The government can order the supermarkets to honor the cards, and it can even set price controls, but history’s verdict is clear: If suppliers are paid only with worthless scrip or blinking digits, the food will stop.


In my scenario, the initial riots begin spontaneously across affected urban areas, as SNAP (supplemental nutrition assistance program) and other government welfare recipients learn that their EBT cards no longer function. This sudden revelation will cause widespread anger, which will quickly lead to the flash-mob looting of local supermarkets and other businesses. The media will initially portray these “food riots” as at least partly justifiable. Sadly, millions of Americans have been made largely, or even entirely, dependent on government wealth transfer payments to put food on their tables.

A new social contract has been created, where bread and circuses buy a measure of peace in our minority-populated urban zones. In the era of ubiquitous big-screen cable television, the internet and smart phones, the circus part of the equation is never in doubt as long as the electricity flows. But the bread is highly problematic. Food must be delivered the old-fashioned way: physically. Any disruption in the normal functioning of the EBT system will lead to food riots with a speed that is astonishing. This will inevitably happen when our unsustainable, debt-fueled binge party finally stops, and the music is over. Now that the delivery of free or heavily subsidized food is perceived by tens of millions of Americans to be a basic human right, the cutoff of “their” food money will cause an immediate explosion of rage. When the hunger begins to bite, supermarkets, shops and restaurants will be looted, and initially the media will not condemn the looting. Unfortunately, this initial violence will only be the start of a dangerous escalation.

The ransacked supermarkets, convenience stores, ATMs and gas stations will not be restocked during this period due to the precarious security situation. A single truck loaded with food or gasoline would be perceived to be a Fort Knox on wheels and subject to immediate attack unless heavily protected by powerfully armed security forces, but such forces will not be available during this chaotic period. Under those conditions, resupply to the urban areas cannot and will not take place. The downward spiral of social and economic dysfunction will therefore both accelerate and spread from city to city. These delays, in turn, will lead to more riots with the constant underlying demand that hungry people be fed, one way or another.

Catch-22, anyone? When these demands do not bring the desired outcome, the participants will ratchet up the violence, hoping to force action by the feckless state and national governments.

The “food riots” will be a grass-roots movement of the moment born out of hunger and desperation. It will not be dependent upon leaders or an underlying organization, although they could certainly add to the sauce. Existing cell phone technology provides all the organization a flash mob needs. Most of the mobs will consist of minority urban youths, termed MUYs in the rest of this essay. Which minority doesn’t matter; each urban locale will come with its own unique multi-ethnic dynamic.

Some locales will divide upon religious or political lines, but they will not be the dominant factors contributing to conflict. In the American context, the divisions will primarily have an ethnic or racial context, largely because that makes it easy to sort out the sides at a safe distance. No need to check religious or political affiliation at a hundred yards when The Other is of a different color.

We Americans are all about doing things the easy way, so, sadly, visible racial and ethnic features will form the predominant lines of division.

Would that it were not so, but reality is reality, even when it’s is a bitch.

Especially then.


In order to highlight their grievances and escalate their demands for an immediate resumption of government benefits, the MUY flash mobs will next move their activities to the borders of their ethnic enclaves. They will concentrate on major intersections and highway interchanges where non-MUY suburban commuters must make daily passage to and from what forms of employment still exist. People making a living will still be using those roads to get to where they earn their daily bread.

The results of these clashes will frequently resemble the intersection of Florence and Normandie during the Rodney King riots in 1992, where Reginald Denny was pulled out of his truck’s cab and beaten nearly to death with a cinder block. If you don’t remember it, watch it on Youtube. Then imagine that scene with the mob-making accelerant of texting and other social media technology added to stoke the fires. Instead of a few dozen thugs terrorizing the ambushed intersections, in minutes there will be hundreds.

Rioters will throw debris such as shopping carts and trash cans into the intersection, causing the more timid drivers to pause. The mobs will swarm the lines of trapped cars once they have stopped. Traffic will be forced into gridlock for blocks in all directions. Drivers and passengers of the wrong ethnic persuasions will be pulled from their vehicles to be beaten, robbed, and in some cases raped and/or killed. It will be hyper-violent and overtly racial mob behavior, on a massive and undeniable basis.

Some of those trapped in their cars will try to drive out of the area, inevitably knocking down MUY pedestrians and being trapped by even more outraged MUYs. The commuters will be dragged out of their cars and kicked or beaten to death. Other suburban commuters will try to shoot their way out of the lines of stopped cars, and they will meet the same grim fate once they run out of bullets and room to escape.

The mob will be armed with everything from knives, clubs and pistols to AK-47s. A bloodbath will result. These unlucky drivers and their passengers will suffer horribly, and some of their deaths will be captured on traffic web cameras. Later, these terrible scenes will be released or leaked by sympathetic government insiders and shown by the alternative media, which continue to expand as the traditional media become increasingly irrelevant.

Implausible, you insist?

This grim tableau is my analysis of age-old human behavior patterns, adding flash mobs and 2012 levels of racial anger to the old recipe. Early-teenage MUYs today are frequently playing “The Knockout Game” on full bellies, just for kicks, and proudly uploading the videos. They and their older peers can be expected to do far worse when hunger and the fear of starvation enter their physical, mental, and emotional equations. The blame for their hunger will be turned outward against the greater society, and will be vented at first hand against any non-MUY who falls into their grasp while they are in the thrall of mob hysteria. These episodes of mass psychology we will refer to as “flash mob riots”, “wilding”, or some other new name.


To gear up for even a single “Florence and Normandie on steroids” flash mob street riot, city police departments will require an hour or longer to stage their SWAT teams and riot squads in position to react. Ordinary patrol cars in small numbers will not venture anywhere near such roiling masses of hysterical rioters, not even to perform rescues. Those citizens trapped in their cars cannot expect timely assistance from local or state authorities.

Even in the first days of widespread riots, when the police forces are well rested, it might take several hours to mount a response sufficient to quell the disturbance and restore order to even one major street intersection riot. In the meantime, scores of innocent commuters will have been attacked, with many of them injured or killed and left at the scene. It will be a law enforcement nightmare to quell the disturbance, mop up lingering rioters, restore security, and bring medical attention to the living and get medical examiners to the dead. And each jurisdiction will face potentially dozens of such scenes, thanks to the ability for MUYs to cross-communicate at will using their wireless devices.

The far more difficult challenge for the police is that by the time they are suited in riot gear, armed and geared up to sweep the intersection, it will probably be empty of rioters. The police, with their major riot squad reaction times measured in hours, will be fighting flash mobs that materialize, cause mayhem, and evaporate in only fractions of hours. This rapid cycle time is a clear lesson taken from massive riots by immigrant French Muslim MUYs in their own religious enclaves and bordering areas.

The American flash mob riot will exist almost entirely inside the law enforcement OODA (observe, orient, decide, act) loop. In other words, the rioters will have a much quicker reaction time than the police. Until fairly recently, superior police communications meant that they could use their radio networks as a force multiplier. With their networking advantage and cohesive reactions both within a department and among cooperating local agencies, police could act as shepherds guiding or dispersing a wayward stampeding flock.

Today, the mob has the greater advantage, immediately spreading word of every police preparation by text and Tweet, even in advance of the police movement. Attempts by the authorities to stop the flash mobs by blocking and jamming wireless transmissions will have limited success.

It is at this point that the situation spirals out of control.

The enraged mobs in urban America will soon recognize that their spontaneous street riots cannot be stopped by the police, and then they will grow truly fearsome. For the police, it will be a losing game of Whack-a-Mole, with riots breaking out and dispersing at a speed they cannot hope to match. The violence will spread to previously unaffected cities as an awareness of law enforcement impotence is spread by television and social media. After a few days, the police forces will be exhausted and demoralized. As the violence intensifies and spreads, and in the absence of any viable security arrangements, supermarkets and other stores will not be restocked, leaving the MUYs even more desperate and angry than before. The increasing desperation born of worsening hunger will refuel the escalating spiral of violence.

Nor will violent conflict be only between the inhabitants of the urban areas and the suburbs. The international record of conflict in tri-ethnic cities is grim, making the old bi-racial dichotomy formerly seen in America seem stable by comparison. In tri-ethnic cities the perceived balance of power is constantly shifting, with each side in turn feeling outnumbered and outmuscled. Temporary truces, betrayals and new alliances follow in rapid succession, removing any lingering sense of social cohesion.

The former Yugoslavia, with its Catholic, Orthodox and Muslim divisions, comes starkly to mind. The Lebanese Civil War between the Christians, Sunnis, Shiites and Druze raged across Beirut (at one time known as “The Paris of the Middle East”) for fifteen brutal years. Once a city turns on itself and becomes a runaway engine of self-destruction, it can be difficult to impossible to switch off the process and return to normal pre-conflict life. It’s not inconceivable that the United States could produce a dozen Sarajevos or Beiruts, primarily across racial instead of religious divides.

Vehicle traffic by non-minority suburban commuters through adjoining minority areas will virtually halt, wrecking what is left of the local economy. Businesses will not open because employees will not be able to travel to work safely. Businesses in minority areas, needless to say, will be looted. “Gentrified” enclaves of affluent suburbanites within or near the urban zones will suffer repeated attacks, until their inhabitants flee.

Radically disaffected minorities will hold critical infrastructure corridors through their areas hostage against the greater society. Highways, railroad tracks, pipe and power lines will all be under constant threat, or may be cut in planned or unplanned acts of raging against “the system.” As long as security in the urban areas cannot be restored, these corridors will be under threat. Even airports will not be immune. Many of them have been absorbed into urban areas, and aircraft will come under sporadic fire while taking off and landing.

In the absence of fresh targets of value blundering into their areas, and still out of food, MUYs will begin to forage beyond their desolated home neighborhoods and into suburban borderlands. “Safe” supermarkets and other stores will be robbed in brazen commando-like gang attacks. Carjackings and home invasions will proliferate madly. As I have discussed in my essay “The Civil War Two Cube,” so-called “transitional” and mixed-ethnic areas will suffer the worst violence. These neighborhoods will become utterly chaotic killing zones, with little or no help coming from the overstretched police, who will be trying to rest up for their next shift on riot squad duty, if they have not already deserted their posts to take care of their own families.


In the absence of an effective official police response to the exploding levels of violence, suburbanites will first hastily form self-defense forces to guard their neighborhoods—especially ones located near ethnic borders. These ubiquitous neighborhood armed defense teams will often have a deep and talented bench from which to select members, and they will not lack for volunteers.

Since 9-11, hundreds of thousands of young men (and more than a few women) have acquired graduate-level educations in various aspects of urban warfare. In the Middle East these troops were frequently tasked with restoring order to urban areas exploding in internecine strife. Today these former military men and women understand better than anyone the life-or-death difference between being armed and organized versus unarmed and disorganized.

Hundreds of thousands if not millions of veterans currently own rifles strikingly similar to those they carried in the armed forces, lacking only the full-automatic selector switch. Their brothers, sisters, parents, friends, and neighbors who did not serve in the military are often just as familiar with the weapons, if not the tactics. Today the AR-pattern rifle (the semi-automatic civilian version of the familiar full-auto-capable M-16 or M-4) is the most popular model of rifle in America, with millions sold in the past decade. Virtually all of them produced in the past decade have abandoned the old M-16’s signature “carrying handle” rear iron sight for a standardized sight mounting rail, meaning that virtually every AR sold today can be easily equipped with an efficient optical sight. Firing the high-velocity 5.56×45 mm cartridge and mounted with a four-power tactical sight, a typical AR rifle can shoot two-inch groups at one hundred yards when fired from a steady bench rest. That translates to shooting eight- to ten-inch groups at four hundred yards.

Four hundred yards is a long walk. Pace it off on a straight road, and observe how tiny somebody appears at that distance. Yet a typical AR rifle, like those currently owned by millions of American citizens, can hit a man-sized target at that range very easily, given a stable firing platform and a moderate level of shooting ability.

And there are a far greater number of scoped bolt-action hunting rifles in private hands in the United States. Keep this number in mind: based on deer stamps sold, approximately twenty million Americans venture into the woods every fall armed with such rifles, fully intending to shoot and kill a two-hundred-pound mammal. Millions of these scoped bolt-action deer rifles are quite capable of hitting a man-sized target at ranges out to and even beyond a thousand yards, or nearly three-fifths of a mile. In that context, the 500-yard effective range of the average semi-auto AR-pattern rifle is not at all remarkable.

So, we have millions of men and women with military training, owning rifles similar to the ones they used in combat operations overseas from Vietnam to Afghanistan. Many of these Soldiers and Marines have special operations training. They are former warriors with experience at conducting irregular warfare and counter-terrorism operations in dangerous urban environments. They are the opposite of unthinking robots: their greatest military talent is looking outside the box for new solutions. They always seek to “over-match” their enemies, using their own advantages as force multipliers while diminishing or concealing their weaknesses. These military veterans are also ready, willing and able to pass on their experience and training to interested students in their civilian circles.

Let’s return to our hypothetical Florence and Normandie intersection, but this time with hundreds of rioters per city block, instead of mere dozens. Among the mobs are thugs armed with pistols and perhaps even AK-47s equipped with standard iron sights, and except in rare cases, these rifles have never been “zeroed in” on a target range. In other words, past a medium distance of fifty to a hundred yards, these MUY shooters will have little idea where their fired bullets will strike—nor will they care. Typically, most of the rioters armed with a pistol, shotgun or an iron-sighted rifle could not hit a mailbox at a hundred yards unless by luck. Inside that distance, any non-MUY could be at immediate risk of brutal death at the hands of an enraged mob, but beyond that range, the mob will pose much less danger.

Taking this imbalance in effective ranges of the firearms most likely to be available to both sides, certain tactical responses are sure to arise, and ranking near the top will be the one described next.


The sniper ambush will predictably be used as a counter to rampaging mobs armed only with short- to medium-range weapons. This extremely deadly trick was developed by our war fighters in Iraq and Afghanistan, taking advantage of the significant effective range and firepower of our scoped 5.56mm rifles. Tactics such as the sniper ambush may not be seen early in the civil disorder, but they will surely arise after a steady progression of atrocities attributed to rampaging MUYs.

Street intersection flash mob riots will not be the only type of violence exploding during periods of civil disorder. As mentioned earlier, the number and ferocity of home invasions will skyrocket, and they will be very hard to defend against. Neighborhood self-defense forces will be able to protect a group of homes if they are located on cul-de-sacs or in defensible subdivisions with limited entrances, turning them overnight into fortified gated communities. Individual homes and apartment buildings located in open grid-pattern neighborhoods with outside access from many directions will be much more difficult to defend, and the home invasions will continue.

Carjacking and other forms of armed robbery will proliferate to previously unimagined levels, leading to a total loss of confidence in the government’s ability to provide security across all social lines. Stray bullets striking pedestrians or penetrating houses will take a frightening toll, even in areas previously considered to be safe. The police will be exhausted by constant riot-squad duty, and will not even respond to reports of mere individual acts of violent criminality. They will simply be overwhelmed, and will be forced to triage their responses. The wealthy, powerful and politically well-connected will demand the lion’s share of remaining police resources, further diminishing the safety of average Americans.

In that context, neighborhood self-defense forces will form the nucleus of the armed vigilante direct action groups which will spring up next in the progression. Suburban anger will continue to build against the MUYs, who are perceived to be the originators of the home invasions and gang-level armed looting raids. Survivors of street ambushes, carjackings and home invasions will tell blood-curdling tales and show horrific scars.

The neighborhood defense teams will evolve into proactive suburban armed vigilante groups (SAVs) out of a desire to preemptively take the violence to their perceived enemies, instead of passively waiting for the next home invasion or carjacking. The SAV teams will consist of the more aggressive and gung-ho members of the self-defense forces, who met and compared notes. Often they will be young men with recent combat experience in the armed forces, who will apply their military training to the new situation. Major intersections and highway interchanges where ambush riots have previously occurred will be among the SAV targets. The SAV reaction times will be measured in minutes, compared to the hours required by major police department SWAT teams and riot squads.


When word is received that a flash mob is forming at one of their pre-reconnoitered intersections or highway interchanges, the SAV team will assemble. Sometimes cooperating police will pass tactical intel to their civilian friends on the outside. Some clever individuals will have exploited their technical know-how and military experience to build real-time intel collection tools, such as private UAVs. Police will have access to urban security camera footage showing MUYs moving barricade materials into position—a normal prerequisite to a flash mob riot intended to stop traffic. Tip-offs to the vigilantes will be common, and where the networks are still functioning, citizens may still be able to access some video feeds. Sometimes, police will even join the SAV teams, incognito and off-duty, blurring the teams into so-called “death squads.”

The operation I will describe (and it’s only one of dozens that will be tried) uses two ordinary pickup trucks and eight fighters. Two riflemen are lying prone in the back of each truck, facing rearward, with removable canvas covers concealing their presence. Their semi-automatic, scoped rifles are supported at their front ends on bipods for very accurate shooting. A row of protective sandbags a foot high is between them and the raised tailgate.

In the cab are a driver and a spotter in the passenger seat who also serves as the vehicle’s 360-degree security. The two trucks don’t ever appear on the same stretch of road, but coordinate their movements using one-word brevity codes over small FRS walkie-talkie radios. Each truck has a series of predetermined elevated locations where the intersection in question will lie between 200 and 500 yards away. Each truck is totally nondescript and forgettable, the only detail perhaps being the non-MUY ethnicity of the suburbanite driver and spotter driving relatively near to a riot in progress.

By the time the two SAV pickup trucks arrive at their firing positions on different streets and oriented ninety degrees to one another, the flash mob riot is in full swing. A hundred or more of the rampaging youths are posturing and throwing debris into traffic in order to intimidate some cars into stopping. The riflemen in the backs of the pickups are waiting for this moment and know what to expect, trusting their spotters and drivers to give them a good firing lane. The spotters in each truck issue a code word on their radios when they are in final position. The tailgates are swung down, and the leader among the riflemen initiates the firing. All-around security is provided by the driver and spotter.

Lying prone and using their bipods for support, the shooters have five to ten degrees of pan or traverse across the entire intersection. Individual rioters are clearly visible in the shooters’ magnified optical scopes. Each of the four snipers has a plan to shoot from the outside of the mob toward the middle, driving participants into a panicked mass. The left-side shooters start on the left side and work to the middle, engaging targets with rapid fire, about one aimed shot per two seconds. Since the two trucks are set at ninety degrees to one another, very complete coverage will be obtained, even among and between the stopped vehicles.

The result is a turkey shoot. One magazine of thirty aimed shots per rifle is expended in under a minute, a coded cease-fire is called on the walkie-talkies, and the trucks drive away at the speed limit. The canvas covering the truck beds contains the shooters’ spent brass. If the trucks are attacked from medium or close range, the canvas can be thrown back and the two snipers with their semi-automatic rifles or carbines will add their firepower to that of the driver and spotter.

Back at the intersection, complete panic breaks out among the rioters as a great number of bullets have landed in human flesh. Over a score have been killed outright, and many more scream in pain for medical attention they will not receive in time. The sniper ambush stops the flash mob cold in its tracks as the uninjured flee in terror, leaving their erstwhile comrades back on the ground bleeding. The commuters trapped in their vehicles may have an opportunity to escape.

This type of sniper ambush and a hundred variations on the theme will finally accomplish what the police could not: put an end to mobs of violent rioters making the cities through-streets and highways impassible killing zones. Would-be rioters will soon understand it to be suicidal to cluster in easily visible groups and engage in mob violence, as the immediate response could come at any time in the form of aimed fire from hundreds of yards away. Even one rifleman with a scoped semi-auto can break up a medium-sized riot.

Many citizens will take to carrying rifles and carbines in their vehicles, along with their pistols, so that if their cars are trapped in an ambush they will have a chance to fight their way out. If their vehicle is stopped outside the immediate area of the flash mob, they will be able to direct accurate fire at the rioters from a few hundred yards away. Inside the fatal hundred-yard radius, unlucky suburbanite drivers and passengers pulled from their cars will still be brutally violated, but the occurrences of large mob-driven street ambushes will be much less frequent once long-range retaliation becomes a frequent expectation.


Where they will be unable to respond swiftly or effectively to the outbreaks of street riots by MUY flash mobs, the police and federal agents will respond vigorously to the deadly but smaller vigilante attacks. These sniper ambushes and other SAV attacks will be called acts of domestic terrorism and mass murder by government officials and the mainstream media. A nearly seamless web of urban and suburban street cameras will reveal some of the SAV teams by their vehicles, facial recognition programs, and other technical means. Some early arrests will be made, but the vigilantes will adapt to increasing law enforcement pressure against them by becoming cleverer about their camouflage, most often using stolen cars and false uniforms and masks during their direct-action missions. Observe Mexico today for ideas on how this type of dirty war is fought.

Eventually, the U.S. Army itself might be called upon to put out all the social firestorms in our cities, restore order and security, pacify the angry masses, feed the starving millions, get vital infrastructure operating again, and do it all at once in a dozen American Beiruts, Sarajevos and Mogadishus.

Good luck to them, I say.

A few hundred “Active IRA” tied down thousands of British troops in one corner of a small island for decades. The same ratios have served the Taliban well over the past decade while fighting against the combined might of NATO. Set aside for a moment the angry starving millions trapped in the urban areas, and the dire security issues arising thereof. Just to consider the official reaction to vigilantism separately, it’s unlikely that any conceivable combinations of local and state police, federal law enforcement, National Guard or active-duty Army actions could neutralize or eliminate tens of thousands of former special operations troops intent on providing their own form of security. Millions of Americans are already far better armed and trained than a few hundred IRA or Taliban ever were. And the police and Army would not be operating from secure fire bases, their families living in total safety thousands of miles away in a secure rear area. In this scenario, there is no rear area, and every family member, anywhere, would be at perpetual risk of reprisal actions by any of the warring sides.

In this hyper-dangerous environment, new laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in vehicles would be ignored as the illegitimate diktat of dictatorship, just when the Second Amendment is needed more than ever. Police or military conducting searches for firearms at checkpoints would themselves become targets of vigilante snipers. Serving on anti-firearms duty would be seen as nothing but pure treason by millions of Americans who took the oath to defend the Constitution, including the Bill of Rights. Politicians who did not act in the security interest of their local constituents as a result of political correctness or other reasons would also be targeted.

A festering race war with police and the military in the middle taking fire from both sides could last for many years, turning many American cities into a living hell. Remember history: when the British Army landed in Northern Ireland in 1969, they were greeted with flowers and applause from the Catholics. The Tommys were welcomed as peacekeepers who would protect them from Protestant violence. That soon changed. Likewise with our tragic misadventure in Lebanon back in 1982 and 1983. Well-intended referees often find themselves taking fire from all sides. It’s as predictable as tomorrow’s sunrise. Why would it be any different when the U.S. Army is sent to Los Angeles, Chicago or Philadelphia to break apart warring ethnic factions?

For a long time after these events, it will be impossible for the warring ethnic groups to live together or even to mingle peacefully. Too much rage and hatred will have been built up on all sides of our many American multi-ethnic fault lines. The new wounds will be raw and painful for many years to come, as they were in the South for long after the Civil War. The fracturing of the urban areas, divided by no-man’s-lands, will also hinder economic redevelopment for many years because the critical infrastructure corridors will remain insecure.

Eventually, high concrete “Peace Walls” like those in Belfast, Northern Ireland, will be installed where the different ethnic groups live in close proximity. That is, if recovery to sane and civilized norms of behavior are ever regained in our lifetimes and we don’t slide into a new Dark Age, a stern and permanent tyranny, warlordism, anarchy, or any other dire outcome.

Dark Ages can last for centuries, after sinking civilizations in a vicious, downward vortex. “When the music’s over, turn out the lights,” to quote Jim Morrison of The Doors. Sometimes the lights stay out for a long time. Sometimes civilization itself is lost. Millions of EBT cards flashing zeroes might be the signal event of a terrible transformation.

It is a frightening thing to crystallize the possible outbreak of mass starvation and racial warfare into words, so that the mind is forced to confront agonizingly painful scenarios. It is much easier to avert one’s eyes and mind from the ugliness with politically correct Kumbaya bromides. In this grim essay, I am describing a brutal situation of ethnic civil war not differing much from the worst scenes from recent history in Rwanda, South Africa, Mexico, Bosnia, Iraq, and many other places that have experienced varying types and degrees of societal collapse. We all deplore the conditions that might drive us toward such a hellish outcome, and we should work unceasingly to return America to the path of true brotherhood, peace and prosperity. Race hustlers of every stripe should be condemned.

Most of us wish we could turn back the calendar to Norman Rockwell’s America. But we cannot, for that America is water long over the dam and gone from our sight, if not from our memories. John Adams said, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” If that is true, judging by current and even accelerating cultural shifts, we might already have passed the point of no return.

The prudent American will trim his sails accordingly.

Matt Bracken is the author of “When The Music Stops” and other essays in The Bracken Anthology, the Enemies Foreign And Domestic trilogy, and his latest novel, Castigo Cay.

Editor’s Note – 0900 EDT 14 SEPT 2012: Per Matt’s request, the second paragraph has been edited slightly to reflect the more probable government actions regarding EBT cards.

Editor’s Note – 0210 EDT 16 SEPT 2012: I have taken the liberty of taking Matt’s note below, originally posted at the end of “Coup”, and placing it here so that new readers would learn of that related essay.

Author’s Note: This essay and last week’s “What I Saw At The Coup” were both written in response to the article published on July 25, 2012 in the semi-official Small Wars Journal titled “Full Spectrum Operations in the Homeland: A Vision of the Future.”

My twin essays represent starkly different “visions of the future” that would-be tyrants, their hopeful henchmen and other self-deluded nimrods may want to consider, before ordering the U.S. military or federal agencies to suppress Americans.

425 responses to “Bracken: When The Music Stops – How America’s Cities May Explode In Violence

  1. Great Read. Get ready is all I can say.

  2. I’d like to argue with Bracken, but I can’t.

    I see his visions of the future as some of the most likely to transpire.


  3. If Matt does not want to see this bad scenario happen, then I think he would be encouraging the popular and widespread ignoring of the bad laws TODAY. Laws that support the official government oppressors in their mission to disarm and disempower you, the white suburban middle class peasant. Laws that say you can’t carry on you, or in your car, and you can’t take a gun into or near some places. Laws that jail you or bankrupt you after you defend your life with a gun. Laws that put police cameras everywhere. Zoning and HOAs that prevent you from building effective fences and defenses around your house.

    The MUY situation was created by the War On Poverty designed and executed by the political rulers. Anarchy means you decide to stop obeying those rulers, yet, Matt describes anarchy as a dire outcome. Does Matt WANT to see this big city riot/war thing happen? Either you go to anarchy (lack of political rulers) now, or you will die after you allow political rulers to herd you against the far wall of the dead end Matt describes.

  4. Mountain Rifleman

    I was with you until you pushed that AR crap. That “platform” is a POS.

  5. How fire-resistant is your urban house? Is there wood under the eves? Are there trees near the house? Tile roof or tar-based shingles? Does your unlocked utility shed have a filled gas can in it? Is it September or October when it has been 82 days since significant precipitation?

    Expect ethnic house burnings, with (if you can consider yourself lucky) a day or two notice that you should move. Neighborhoods in Iraq discovering their perimeters did this.

    Gunfire and beatings are mostly for entertainment (not yours). Bored “youths” gotta busy themselves somehow.

    These questions and more for the rural household.

    Do we have a year? Two? I hope so.
    Hope is not a plan.


  6. Mr. Bracken should write a book on this scenario. Hell I’d buy it………….

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  8. This is a mostly on-target description of our coming Time of Troubles and, probably, outright Civil War. But I deplore euphemisms: if you mean Black, Hispanic, White…then say so. The only substantial caveat I have is that Bracken understates the number of military vets among the urban blacks and particularly hispanics; these entitlement groups, thanks to this professional stiffening, are going to be far more dangerous – to each other and to Whites – than mere “flash mobs”. In fact, once the fighting begins, I expect the higher IQ’d, better organized latinos to go after the blacks and substantially reduce their numbers; meanwhile both groups will liquidate the urban white cosmic libs and Jews. What comes boiling ouf of the cities, into the ‘burbs and even outlying rural areas is apt to be a survivor-selection of these massacres and much more lethal than the author thinks. As to the ZOG and its enforcers, it/they will of course side with the urban group entitlements…and then split wide open, leading to a hot Civil War, including secession by 15-20 states.

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  10. A lot of what Mr. Bracken describes has been detailed in CIVIL WAR TWO by Thomas Chittum. What needs to be considered is the FEDGOV response. My Black Helicopter friends here in SW Oregon are saying that a false flag economic castastrophe is on the horizion before the November election. Due to the alleged widespread social disintegration that it will cause, Barry and his minions will appeal to the UN to send in foreign troops to help quell things. I believe this was one of the scenarios in Mr. Bracken’s book FOREIGN ENEMIES AND TRAITORS.
    Another tactic the FEDGOV will use will be communications blackouts to counter the ability of the flashmobs to coordinate their activities and to keep the rest of the sheeple from realizing how bad things really are. A good shortwave radio receiver might be a wise investment.
    As a SOCAL expat, I feel for friends and family left behind. But, I look forward to seeing the white cosmic liberals, Hollywood deviates and other leftist ethnics reap the harvest that they and their political contributions have sewn.

  11. The inevitable conclusion post-desintegration? Succession of course. Once this scenario takes hold, the 50 states of the good old US of A will no longer be a viable model, at least not for many, many years. Small security zones will be created, and once folks in these zones re-establish contact and begin working together and re-establishing commerce and security, zones will form into regions, regions into states. Those of like mind will bond together.

    For MY money, all the liberal, progressive egg-sucking parasites can go north of Virginia. The ones down here that remain alive, anyway. The freedom-loving, WORKING, constitutionally minded folks can congregate in Virginia and south. The old Mason-Dixon line(through parts of Pennsylvania) might indeed still serve a useful purpose, all these years later, as a demarkation line, and potentially form the borders of new countries.

    Let’s be candid here; we ALREADY ARE 2 countries, living in the same shared geographical space. We HAVE been for a very long time. The rancor between the 2 sides has been bad for quite awhile, and only getting worse. The scenario detailed above has been an inevitability for a long time. Plainly speaking, I no longer want to live with them and call them fellow Americans, and i’m reasonably certain THEIR sentiments are the same regarding US. The inevitable financial collapse and the collapse of the food distribution system will only bring these 2 forces into collision with each other, a collision pre-ordained since about Jimmy Carter’s time.

    In terms of preparation and mitigation, think long term here, folks. Even 6 months of stashed food and water will not be enough of a safety margin. You need seeds to grow your own food, and a dependable & reliable water source. Wood for fires, and long term alternative cooking sources. As much ammo as you can possibly stockpile for your chosen weapons, ( I wholeheartedly disagree with the author on the marvels of the AR-15 platform by the by. Think tight machining parameters, lack of knockout punch of the .223 round, and the maintenance and lubrication needs of this platform. Another argument for another time, however) any type of devices that run on solar, etc.

    For those with any degree of foresight, adequate preparations for mitigation cannot be over-stated. The clock is winding down, and the time for mitigation prep is running short. Last minute shopping WILL NOT DO IT! Any and all that are unprepared will converge on stores and supply depots simultaniously. I’ve seen it with my own eyes preparing for 6 different hurricanes in 11 years in south Florida. Fights at the gas pumps, fights at the grocery stores, fights at the home improvement stores, you name it. Trust an old hand at prepping; you want ALL family members HOME and safe, your supplies stocked, your contingency plans ready for implementation, and the fort locked down when this fuse gets lit…….

  12. I agree w sea dragon re: the military experience of the black and Hispanics. The us military has an enormous gang presence, if not an outright problem. An FBI report some years ago painted a pretty shocking picture. I think the us military will also split along racial lines.
    Regarding the sniper ambush tactic, soon, the mobs will wise up. Take ftime to reinforce the drivers compartment and engine space against small arms fire, and have yet a third vehicle nearby for recovery of the crew in a disabled vehicle.

  13. I have had the pleasure to discuss this very topic with Matt and Thomas Chittum on my radio show. Both come up with conclusions of a similar vein. I think Matt has once again hit it out of the park with this piece. If things do not unfold like this I would expect them to be very close. Keep up the great work Matt!

  14. There is no such thing as “hispanic” except on a US Census form.

    There are at least 30M ethnic and Mexican Nationals inside the borders of the USA. These are self-selected for aggressiveness and intelligence, by the fact that they had to outwit/evade a US culture that used to slightly resist them, while establishing a stand-alone Spanish-speaking parallel nation in our midst.
    Agree much with SDC about the likely purge of US Citizen/traditional US Blacks as well as African immigrant Blacks and wrong-place en Anglais Whites by Mexican militias (ranks filled with Hector-Carlos-Jose, the now-scared minimal-English minimal-formal-education strong former-yardmen, commanded/equipped and funded by drug gangs, focusing on commercial territory, but keeping busy with lucrative and ethnically useful “side jobs”), before they move on to sandal-wearing paper-cup-coffee swilling urban soft-meat.

    Agree much about strong young Mexican Nationals and Mexican-Americans (so they are, not PC phrase, regardless of “status”) joining combat arms professions in US Marines and US Army to get the training they need to be effective in irregular warfare, wherever that might occur.

    Mexicans know the difference between themselves and Salvadorians or Columbians. High-caste Mexicans (tall/blonde-trending White) know the difference between themselves and the the little brown Aztec people. That’s what all the Meztito propaganda of the “La Raza” is about. It can be translated as “don’t kill us, let us run everything difficult and complex like finance and telephones/television, we speak Spanish like you”.

    “Don’t count on outside help.”: General advice for everyone.

    The Jews I know are not knowing about firearms/self-defense, even the jewelers, beyond obscurity/COMSEC and strong locks. It’s as if there is a cultural failure that prevents them from preparing for the obvious. I hope that this is because I only know left-wing urban Jews. White urban middle-America is not much different, except for that some of their sons and daughters come back from a few years of active duty trained to a certain extent and their eyes opened.


  15. I don’t believe he was pushing anything.
    He just stated the fact that there are lots of ARs and that folk will use them as required.

    Aside all that, moving to the boonies asap (or being there in the first place) seems like a better fix than sniping goblins from the back of a pickup.

  16. The last combatant I “knocked down”, was a guy diddy-boppin’ along the Ho Chi Minh Trail, and I did it with an M16. One shot through the brain bucket, and he went down like a sack of potatoes, never to rise. Same gun I carried, (M-203) or a regular M16, whole time I was there, never gave a flutter, never failed, and always stopped with one or two shots(sometimes you need a second shot when you, uh, miss) whoever I shot at. No problemo. Sumbitch works. I also have access(oh that word) to .30cal guns now, as well as AR-15. Cover bases. Hedge the bet. Or something. What will come as a mild surprise to many in the coming excitement is that .223cal. family o’ guns will be both useful, and adequate.

  17. And Matt is probably very close in his estimation of what will happen, or if not, the difference will be almost nothing. I think he doesn’t mention specific races, to avoid stirring the pot, so to speak. For all the sturm und drang he envisions, he often leans on his diplomatic skills, knowing as any wise man does, that you’re still going to have to deal with folks after the Big Change is over. Easing back ever so lightly on words can make people more amenable to what you’re saying. As in an old movie I saw, “You tread heavily, but you speak the truth”. So it is with Matt Bracken.

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  20. I truly believe this piece will be seen as Prophetic in the not too distant future. Those who have not ALREADY established a capable tribe, who have not ALREADY stocked their caches, and who have not ALREADY hardened their hearts for this exact scenario, will pay the price along with their wives and daughters.

    Montani Semper Liberi

  21. What is there to disagree with in this treatise? We are at the door of this exact scenario.

    If you listen, the drums can be heard just over the horizon. Prepare.

  22. Unfortunately the foundation for this behavior was laid decades ago, it has settled, and is more than ready to be built upon. This possibility is even more terrifying than the “Enemies Trilogy.” I imagine all sides would be passionate in their involvement and not easily steered toward a peaceful solution, especially if they are hungry.

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    Could this be our “October Surprise”?

  25. Will this scenario play out? It does sound likely. I do think that this is the worst case scenario though.

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  28. Like it or not. the AR is here. Learn it for that reason if nothing else.

  29. He covers a lot of territory, not perfect, but overall more likely correct than not, IMO.

    Most could pick up a few nuggets worth further consideration in their prep strategy,
    as well as some, always welcomed, additional motivation to ‘gitrdone’ sooner.

    – Shane

  30. I hope Matt Bracken will give us a novel about some of the possibilities he presents. The predictions he has given us in some of his other books seem to have hit the nail right on the head.

  31. Jimmy the Saint

    As a practical matter, the EBT cards won’t ever read zero – at least not so long as the government can still print money. Sure, the balances reflected would be largely worthless, but that’s a different matter.

    Wouldn’t the more likely scenario be a hyper-inflation one where the EBT balances (and for that matter, a lot of normal folks’ paychecks) can’t keep pace with the rate of inflation? The end result could easily play out the same, though it might take a little longer to develop – for the first month, maybe two, the EBT hordes could still buy *some* food, they’d just wipe out stocks almost immediately at the start of the month, since that is when their cards would have the greatest purchasing power.

  32. Another Anon

    I am not as sanguine as the rest of you about the scenario as the EBT card can be kept working by fiat if needed and if pushed FEDGOV can control and even distribute food, even these days with surprising efficiency. Heck they can draft Wal Mart or whoever to do it and they will.

    That being said if TSHTF this is a plausible scenario. As for the gang presence in the military, yes. You can assume the goblins will have some military grade hardware and a few with the skills to use it. However thus far, right now the goblins who are the in the service have not trickled down much of this knowledge to the gangs (White gangs exempted) or at least in numbers we can see in the US (Mexico exempted here too) This Latinos will have more of this than the Blacks though. These are a couple of reasons for this but the poor raw material (most gang types lack the aptitude to learn) seems to be the big one.

    However if it goes on long enough for a ITEOTWAWKI scenario, a lot IED’s and other tech will be used. Its deeper than just rifles on rifles.

    As mentioned before race will be very complex, too complex for a blog post. I just recommend that folks Tribe Up

    A last point, most people in this scenario will not die by hostile action but by disease and famine and if some idiots burn or destroy a bio warfare or other bio lab,(and there are thousands in the US) well its ugly

    No matter what though cholera in such times is the killer not 5.56. Prepare accordingly .

  33. Speaking purely hypothetically of course….what if THEY made the EBT say 0.00? What if the EBT saying 0.00 has nothing to do with reality but everything to do with a hack attack? What if that hack attack was not real but set up by a small cabal of government drones. See the fragility of such a system? What if there was no attack at all but just a rumor spread by that same social media system of EBT failures?

    Lots of possibilities…..

  34. You wanna rely on it? Be my guest……. Let me know how it works out in this scenario when you’re out of gun oil, and you’re substituting crisco for breach lubricant…..Better yet, drop it in the mud, or in a pond, pick it up, try to fire it, and get back to me on how well it worked out for you……

  35. Jimmy the Saint

    Time to stock up on fish antibiotics, then.

  36. 2 things:

    First, this very same scenario may occur if Barry Soetero loses the election – I think that all of us know that there WILL be riots if that happens, and even worse ones if Soetero challenges the results and loses, like with Gore. So it isn’t just the EBTs not working (not that Matt B’s imagination is limited to that scenario).

    Second, there are definitely parts of “flyover” country where the local and state LEOs will WELCOME so-called vigilante action – first because they agree with the otherwise peaceful civilians defending themselves, and second because it’ll mean less risk for them. I cannot, for example, believe that such riots would get far in Texas or most of the old Confederacy (excepting some big cities, and they will be contained).

    As far as the AR vs. I hate AR debate, let’s lose that, please. I own an AR, and also some heavier arms in both semi-auto and bolt. I would rather that a civilian have SOMETHING to shoot with than nothing, and its better to have a so-called poodle-shooter than your thumb up your arse. FYI, those Korean shop-owners in LA didn’t do so bad with poodle-shooters. This debate only detracts from the central message which is, if I read correctly, that we all need to do more prepping and more organizing of our tribe – because “a storm is coming.”

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  38. No, fuck no….I hate the damn thing. However, it has been the countries “main battle rifle” for most of my life, and there’s a lot of em out there.everybody ought to be familiar with it, and know how to run one.

  39. And, a lot of “pros” run with it….

  40. I’ll take you up on that challenge.

    I’ll win, too.

  41. I think this is just a gun fanatic fantasy. What will really happen is not sophisicated sniper attacks by teams on min-riots because there are few cities where you can sit 500 yards from an intersection with no intervening hill, building, or curve, but an up-close and personal short range conflict. Groups of minorities will strike at any white in range, which will be measured in blocks, but any effort to expand their attack will met with massed yet imprecise return fire.

    Remember most of urban riots were confined to small areas. The police response was actually fairly quick, at least the set up, it was a failure of action, whether by the LAPD in 1992 or the Detroit PD in 1967.

    We know that the LAPD was ready to clear the streets within hours of Reginald Denny’s beating, but Tom Bradley did not want the riots stopped. The same in Detroit, where Mitt Romney’s father refused to send in the National Guard to put down the riots.

    Any massed urban riot will only continue as allowed by politicians and there will be no vigilante response to the riots that will be naturally confined to low property value areas. Why, because politicians and bureaucrats live in nice neighborhoods, even those of color.

    Riots are acutally good for left wing politicians, no lessons were learned in Detroit or LA. We do know that the riots were confined to small areas. Any movement out of those areas will either be resisted by armed whites, but not by fantasy sniper teams, but just armed groups. After the first few rounds headed toward them, the black or Hispanic rioters will flee. They just don’t stand up to resistance, they flee in search of easier targets, fellow blacks or Hispanics in low value neighborhoods, or flee for survival.

    It might be different in France, but their population outside of the rural areas is basically unarmed, but in any event Antonio Villaregoso will not allow high value property areas to be harmed. However burning down a Korean store in a low property value neighborhood will be seen by him as a political opportunity to gain redevelopment money. Rember campaign contributions don’t come from burned down neighborhoods, but the people in burned down neighborhoods tend to vote for the same people no matter what. However, if SWLP types are inconvinienced by riots or get burned out, they won’t be contributing or volunteering for that respectable minority candidate like Villaregosa or Obama, etc. And who cares if Detroit burns again. No one cares. And the voters there will vote again for Coleman Young or Kwame Kilpatrick or whatever hiphop Mayor replaces him. But the people in the suburbs will shoot back. But they won’t do it in a gun fantasy way, but up close and personal; street by street, neighborhood by neighborhood. And the white suburbs of Detroit won’t stand for rioters from the inner-city. Grosse Pointe cops will be cheerfully shooting any person of color heading from Detroit to rape and pillage.

    Remember it is not about the hardwear or playing soldier, it will be about shooting it out with a mob at close range, if it comes to that. Militias don’t travel well, but they do like to fight local, up close and personal like.

  42. Mountain Rifleman-

    I beg to differ.

    I’ve been running that platform for two decades, from the desert to -60° ambient in Alaska, and have never had a problem that wasn’t directly caused by blanks or a bad mag.


  43. Concur. It works.

    You wouldn’t know it from reading online, but if you run it like it’s meant to be ran, it is an outstanding platform.

  44. “… I think that all of us know that there WILL be riots if that happens.”

    I’m saving Vacation days for just such a possibility.

  45. Thank God for Bracken and CA. In the meantime get ready to lock & load. Don’t let your age deter you. “One shot, one kill”.

    “There Are Enemies Amongst Us”

  46. Excellent summation, Matt.

  47. I tend to agree with Federale. The only way this scenario happens is with complete societal breakdown (which means the cops won’t be going out because they won’t be getting paid). Riots would get messy, and as always the poor and working class will suffer most, but if the government is still in charge they won’t let the beautiful people who donate fat cash to campaign funds get hurt; they’ll roll in food trucks and do something to quell the mob to buy time.
    Things go too far, and the military will not be relying on boots on the ground only — they have some pretty nifty force multipliers and won’t be afraid to use them on these civilian sniper teams. Most military vets know this. They’ll be more interested in protecting their families and friends, just like the cops. Unless their own families have their backs against the wall, most wouldn’t take to such drastic measures (as for Blacks or Latinos in the military, well, they’ll likely do the same thing; the ones which are gang affiliated, and this goes for whites too, are the ones that might try something, but it has to be emphasized: gang membership in the military as in prisons isn’t just the realm of racial minorities. The AR is a decent platform, but it’s nothing against a drone; it’s nothing against a lot of stuff.

  48. alan w. mullenax

    I assure you I can hold my own with the POS.

  49. I just know I am prepping for the worst and hoping for the best. I live very close to a large urban area for my work, but have a bug out space many miles away from it.

    If push comes to shove, the bug out area has space, and very few neighbors in east Texas. I will survive.

  50. Compared to an M1a, AR is a toy. Vietnam: 400,000 rounds expended per dead Red. Not good.

  51. This is the scenario I am more concerned with. I work in Houston, but maintain my home, family several hours from there. My concern is getting out of town if SHTF. I have been working on bugging out under several different scenarios, self-defense and firearm skills over the last several months.

  52. I suspect that any scenario that results in hunger in the urban areas will see masses moving outward just to find something, anything, to eat. It is likely that “tough guys” will organize and pillage well into the burbs until their numbers are decimated by determined resistance.

    Get out of Dodge now. Prep and learn everything you can. Form or join a tribe.

  53. 10 years ago I worked with a Vietnam Vet in Mi and we pooped a top or two on quite a few occasions. One day he opened up some large storage cases he had in his basement. They were filled with ammo and weapons. When I asked him what he had all that stored up for he simply replied, “You can’t have enough when the race wars break out.” I laughed and said you really think there will be race wars. His only reply was “When it begins to break down it always reverts to race and one side against the other.”

    We expanded that conversation over the time I knew my friend when I lived in MI but while this is a taboo subject for many it is all too apparent to be true historically. Great post and passed on…

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  55. You’ll win? That’s YOUR story, pal. Again, be my guest. You run with whatever you’re comfortable with. Myself? I’ll defend my family with something that will actually do more than injure gophers….. The .223? An accurate bullet, a FAST bullet, a light bullet, but not an EFFICIENT bullet. You can have it……

  56. If EBT cards suddenly stop working, it will only be because the government shuts them off. On purpose.
    Meanwhile, it’s hard to see that happening. While I do think we are in for a financial collapse, those doing the rioting are the ones supporting the current government. Why disenfranchise them with food riots?

  57. On the other hand, maybe I need to put my scope on my Mosin…

  58. Gentlemen,

    This scenario is playing out NOW in Detroit. (See: )
    and here ( ). Please note the stat for Self Defense killings up 2,200%! (Yes, Two thousand two hundred). And this is with the Darks fed and fully ETB’ ed. Any disruption in the SNAP/ETB/Section 8/Welfare will trigger a full on riot. In fact it did! ( )

    We have been watching the practice sessions with the flash mobs, the Knock Out King Game, the “Polar Bear Hunting”, the horrible attacks in Wisconsin at the State Fair, the attacks at the Ohio state fair, the attacks on Whites in Denver, Seattle, Atlanta, Philadelphia, etc. Now the BPP talks openly about “killing White babies” and putting out Fatwa’s on a man’s head and our police forces do nothing. Even worse is the Nation of Islam recruiting “cannon fodder” for the enevitable ( )

    The African colony in the USA survives with the help of the host Country. It can not survive without billions in internal Aid, which is frankly, gone. We don’t have the money to support over 50% on Welfare and more than 50% paying no taxes, just as Rome could not survive with Bread and Circuses.

    If the sniping begins to make a dent in their tactics, they will come in singles or pairs, trying for a home invasion (Called a “Hole Up”) rather than a riot situation. That way they can feast, rape your wife and daughter and murder you, rest for a few days and then move on.

    As to the weapon selection, I carry a 10mm pistol and a scoped Kel-Tec RFB in 308. A Dark with an AK-47 is the enemy.

  59. I was with you until you pushed that AR crap. That “platform” is a POS.

    This whole great big essay and all some people take away from it is an excuse for more gun wankery? 😮


  60. I agree that it could take a lot less than zeros on EBT cards to light the fuse. It could take as little as a B. Hussein Obama loss in November to piss off and provoke the drug imbibed, tax sucking masses to begin their rampage.

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  62. JMJ, I agree with most of what you write. But you have to consider that no one is chosen to run for president without CFR approval. Romney has been approved, and if obama starts anything to unravel the “new” plan, the “powers” will take him out. At this point, I think obama is irrelevant, he’s toast, one way or the other.

  63. I’m going to respond to Matt’s article on the blog, but just to throw my hat into the whole AR debate, I will offer a standing invitation to MountainRifleman and Big John…..Come to a class (see the tab at the top of my blog labelled training opportunities), for free (I will cover your part of the expenses) and we will torture test my personal LMT M4. I will strip it clean, grease it with Crisco, throw it in the mud, STOMP on it, then run the charging handle, to ensure it’s clear of barrel obstructions, and then I will run it the rest of the class, lubing only with Crisco. You will do the same with your non-AR platform weapon of choice, as long as it has demonstrably “terminal” ballistics, and we will video tape the abuse, and have everyone in the class who witnesses it post on the AAR, on my blog, as to the results.

  64. I think you all should write or design video games with these sick senarios. Only the sick minded will buy and play these games. Or, you could write something positive on how to better our situation vs destroy it. Get a life and do something positive for your community.

  65. Reblogged this on lisaleaks and commented:
    A new social contract has been created, where bread and circuses buy a measure of peace in our minority-populated urban zones. In the era of ubiquitous big-screen cable television, the internet and smart phones, the circus part of the equation is never in doubt as long as the electricity flows. But the bread is highly problematic. Food must be delivered the old-fashioned way: physically. Any disruption in the normal functioning of the EBT system will lead to food riots with a speed that is astonishing. This will inevitably happen when our unsustainable, debt-fueled binge party finally stops, and the music is over. Now that the delivery of free or heavily subsidized food is perceived by tens of millions of Americans to be a basic human right, the cutoff of “their” food money will cause an immediate explosion of rage. When the hunger begins to bite, supermarkets, shops and restaurants will be looted, and initially the media will not condemn the looting. Unfortunately, this initial violence will only be the start of a dangerous escalation.

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  68. Call a spade a spade . . . there is no room for PC crap when an obviously and undeniably all-black or all-latino gang is slouching down the street intent on taking your life and stealing your property. You won’t see roving gangs of Amish or Jewish individuals. We all are well aware of who poses the greatest threat to our existence and we are all aware of who made all of this possible. I pray to God daily for this nightmare to end on November 6.

  69. How can we locate like-minded individuals in our separate communities? We are very much interested in forming a tribe or other support group. We are eager to get as much prep work and stockpiling accomplished in as short a time period as possible.

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  71. The totally shell-shocked, helpless, chaotic response to disaster that we all witnessed in urban New Orleans during the Katrina may provide a clue as to how the urban EBT dependents may react. Looting, preying on each other, total lack of of organization or focus. This predictable reaction could buy us additional time to get our own acts together. I was told by many, many different responders from the Red Cross, FEMA, National guard, and other agencies that the citizens of Joplin, Missouri (my town that was literally wiped out by an EF-5 tornado in May of 2011) had done MORE to band together and help themselves in ONE WEEK than New Orleans has still yet to do. Although everyone danced around the reason why this was . . . it was obvious that they were referring to vast differences in the ‘cultural’ and ‘lifestyle’ characteristics of the two population. Nuff said.

  72. Repeated carpet bombing would make most of these ‘problems’ go away really quickly.

  73. Actually it’s already been written — like ten years ago. Check out “Only in America” by John Soltez. It gets this thing down right down to the security zones another poster was talking about here.

  74. Another Anon

    Guys (and Gals) the caliber debate is fun (well for some people anyway) but it doesn’t matter. You are the weapon and any decent weapon you are well trained in will suffice, .308, 30/30, .223, 7.62×39 its all good if you are good. If you aren’t, it doesn’t matter. The $5000 wonder gun will fail you.

    Get yourself fit and ready and stock up on whatever ammo and supplies you can afford. And guys don’t forget comfort and hygiene. Survival doesn’t have to suck and to repeat myself, disease kills more than bullets.

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  76. Chuck Spears

    Good read, but the author is missing a MAJOR factor if all this happens.
    If America collapses into the mess described, every enemy and foreign power that can paddle a canoe or wade the Rio Grande will send troops here to claim a piece. That includes the drug cartels. Everything will be up for grabs.

  77. The private UAV angle is legitimate. The tech is advancing, and the applications are increasing. Here’s an article on some of that.

  78. Mountain Rifleman….you’re joking correct ? The M16, M16A1, M16A2, M4, M4A1, AR-15 and other variations is available in more calibers than one can afford to own. In its 7.62/.308 iteration it provides long-range, ACCURATE firepower.

    Joking or not your “POS” comment means little as like many others you make a blanket comment with no supporting commentary. Everyone has a right to their opinion regardless of how foolish or asinine it may be. Enjoy your blunderbus and your ridicule of owners of weapons you don’t appreciate. The bottom line will be one’s ability to put deadly and accurate fire on those who would do us and our republic harm.

    “There Are Enemies Amongst Us”

  79. Interesting indeed……

  80. Well said!

  81. Folks will have to start with whatever tools they have at hand. Replacements and exchanges are allowed and expected while the clock is running.

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  83. Sean….I’ve used it, without a hiccup, for 40 years. Thank you for your mil service.

    Mr. Bracken has more insight than many of us. His scenario is darn close to what can and may happen. Mr. B substantiated his essay with real world examples.

    Thank you Mr. Bracken for your essay. I hope it does not come to fruition.

    “There Are Enemies Amongst Us”

  84. Smarter than you

    Best article on the subject that I have ever read, thank you.

  85. Excellent essay. Two thoughts:

    a/ “As of June 2012, the total [on food stamps] is 46.7 million…” and 35% of those were white.

    Keeping in mind other’s comments here that EBT could be funded by fiat until inflation made it useless, I’d be interested to hear what the assumption would be for poor urban and suburban/rural white’s actions would be if EBT collapsed (also keeping in Bracken’s cube).

    b/ I can’t believe I am still hearing this “ZOG” bullshit after 4 years of this islamo-marxist turd not only destroying America but enabling the muslim brotherhood and sticking it to the Israelis over Iran.

    Get smart, guys; the jinos who back ØbowMao™ are NOT zionists, they are marxist dems, just like the tens of millions of cinos who put the baby-killer in power.

    Time to dump the “they got horns & Talmud” paranoia.
    Zionist-leaning Jews in America (i.e., supportive of Israel as the only Jewish-controlled national homeland) are those Jews more politically to the Right and who are more likely to be armed and/or at least very antithetic to MUY, and sympathetic to suburban/rural pre-emptive defense.

  86. YOU guys are going to hate this ,BUT you need to hear it,my friend built and tested flying disks ,of alien design at a BOEING plant in northern canada for years,they made thousands of them,for the USAF,some would hold small groups of guys some would hold large groups of troops,either way they will be used against the american people ,the weapon systems are beyond belief and deadly to ground forces,these things can fly faster than a speeding bullet( LA to mars in 6 hours)thats 32 million miles,they turn on a dime and stop just as fast,this is just the tip of the iceburg of weapons you will be up against,you will need someone to watch the sky at all times when your outside,OBAMA ain’t leaving office ,he going to take over the usa and believe me he has the firepower to do it,their going to pull all the tricks out of their trick bag and use them, its all about getting the bravest out in the open ,so they can take them down, remember head down,eyes up,and good luck,you’ve been warned…………….the drones are a scram,their dangerous but nothing compared to the disks………………

  87. Mr. Mosby….I hope you aren’t holding your breath waiting for a reply accepting your challenge.

    Thanks for your efforts and contributions to the “community”.

    “There Are Enemies Amongst Us”

  88. You repeat yourself four times for every point youre making. This article is cool, and I agree with most of it, but it is SCREAMING to be condensed a bit. Do not repeat the same things over and over. We get it the first time.

  89. As bad as things are now, once the spiral starts, it easily could pick up speed and go way past where the author stops. The Guv will absolutely sit by and watch as the burbs burn. At first. They will absolutely take the side of the rioters by stamping down on militias. Just as they do now. But they can only do so up to a certain point. As things are today, once the killing tsunamis deeply into the burbs, the militias will form and the Guv will not be able to do a darn thing about it, they will be completely swamped. The Guv will call in the military, perhaps making this an excuse for martial law and dictatorship. How long can they keep it up? When the core white working class rage and will to resist is finally ignited into action it will be very hard to stop. If the Guv starts arresting and openly oppressing the middle class, the rage will quickly explode. What happens when the police or National Guard come with orders to arrest some prominent militia / vigilante leader? What if they find themselves surrounded by dozens, hundreds, thousands of armed supporters? Like the Redcoats trying to flee back toward Boston? What about when one of the gun confiscation squads is wiped out in an ambush? Once it all gets pushed past where normal people don’t care anymore, it will not stop but turn into a nation wide conflagration, feeding on itself. What if it’s not EBT cards but an Iranian EMP? Millions will die within days and weeks from violence. Tens of millions, then hundreds of millions will die from starvation within the first few months. The most violent, the biggest mob, will survive at first. Only if rural Americans organize quickly and form self defense forces of thousands will there be any hope of meeting the mobs at the gates.

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  91. Let’s hope and pray none of this happens. But what happens if some suburban enclave survives on it’s own for weeks, fighting off attack after attack, food running low, neighbors, friends, relatives dying, no help anywhere in sight. They have organized. Lived and died next to each other. Bonded in life and death. Then things calm down a bit and suddenly a government “national guard” unit or police unit appears, searching for some of the members who took part in a particularly nasty self defense action where two dozen of the mob were gunned down from an ambush position. Local communist / liberal politicians, pandering to their mob base, had ordered the arrests to show how sympathetic they were to their rioting constituents, how willing they are to hunt down “white racist militia vigilantes”, who the mob claims was gunning down “innocent youths who were just looking for food.” Will the organized suburbanites just meekly turn over their own to these tools of the political scum? Will they just quietly submit their weapons and bodies to the New American Gestapo and hope they will be fairly treated in some Kangaroo Kourt with trumped up PC charges and severe martial law penalties? Or will they see these armed men who have come demanding their freedom as no different than the screaming cannibal mobs they have fought to a standstill the past few weeks? What will happen then? What will happen then? At Concord and Lexington, something finally snapped and the formerly legitimate forces of the King were suddenly seen as mortal enemies to be shot, killed and maimed, regardless of the consequences. What will happen then? God help us. Pray for wisdom and unity and courage.

  92. Let’s hope the US government makes moves to avert this violence by: 1. beefing up internal security agencies and providing them with the necessary extra-constitutional powers to incarcerate individuals and groups that even now provide detailed information on the web about their objectives, I think both the Patriot Act (section 8) and the NDAA are efforts in the right direction regarding this.. 2. the passing of legislation that makes any activity, even that of mere speaking, that implies the government must be overthrown, a capital offense. 3. The development of emergency extra-constitutional Public Safety Committees and Courts with jurisdiction in every neighborhood to render justice and virtue in an expeditious fashion. 4. increasing censorship and control of all information activity through legislation which also inhibits any discussion of said censorship and control. 5. The complete and total revocation of the habeas corpus.

    These are tough solutions but when it comes between bourgeois “liberty” and the innate desire for group solidarity, cooperation and social order, the latter group of values must take priority. .

  93. uh………okay then……..?

  94. Ah, Oh, Kay.
    Hey anyone know what time it it?

  95. Nope. I’m morally opposed to suicide, even by self-induced suffocation.

  96. You guys are all batshit crazy!! I think I would rather take my chances with the black folks. Less chance of getting shot.

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  98. UFO’s and airconditioned cubicles. it takes all kinds. and all will be milling around the open air meets, and impromptu gun swaps, so be prepared to see a real show. Peacock feathers and grandpa’s .45, all still valid, and in my case exactly what I’m looking for. This is the eccentrics who stimulate the minds of the inventors and muse the academics. They will also be the guys who can take those 1000ft musket shots, cause they’ve been practicing that one move their whole lives. I welcome all patriots in my camp, but justice is swift, and forever. Stasi squealers and turncoat carpetbaggers are always the security risk, so vet your crews well, and live to tell our tale.

  99. You’re hallucinating, dude.

  100. You take Tommy Lee Jones and I’ll take Will Smith.

  101. Well guess the mega-watt plasma phaser platform IS better than the AR…

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  103. But only in the 40-watt range…


  104. Bob, start identifying your local communist and liberal politicians now. That way you’ll know where to start and won’t waste time interviewing and asking around. Have to clean up your own backyard and secure your base of operations before you go out adventuring.
    String them up, send them packing, but get them out of your hair quick, and first.

  105. LOL, what brand of stink bait are you using today, mister NSA? I’ve got some “tough solutions” hanging right here for you.

  106. Purveyor of Truth

    Flying discs or not, one must prepare themselves to defend folk and family. Racial lines are drawn in a lawless society such as the prison system for a very good reason. Everybody knows who’s who and what team you’re batting for. It works.

    Don’t believe me? Watch an episode of “Lockup,” for Christ’s sake. Until then…….


    Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

    The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

    Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

    What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

    How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

    And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

    But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

  107. With the extended capacitor.

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  109. While there are tactical advantages in the long range of the AR-15 as mentioned in this article, it seems in this article the AK is demonized as the urban weapon preferred by thugs. I would argue that millions of patriotic Americans would use the AK to quell mob violence and defend themselves or their neighborhoods. Maybe not from 400 yards, but what mob wants to make a 100-150 yard march towards flying 7.62x 39 (from people who actually sight in their AK’s)? Some people can’t afford an AR setup.

  110. Obvious race-baiting article is obvious.

  111. For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst and provide for it.
    Patrick Henry

  112. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!
    Patrick Henry

  113. Great article, probably very accurate IMO. However, he totally left out the drone issues. One drone “could” be used to knock out a flash mob in a minute. The whole drone issue is a complete game changer, and yes, IMO, they will be flying the sky more and more.

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  116. @Gerhard E. Here’s hoping your response was merely well-crafted sarcasm.

  117. And non-thinking commenter is non-thinking.


  118. This is not the complete list; it was taken from the 45 Communist goals that found their way down the halls of our great Capitol back in 1963.

    Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record–Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963 Current Communist Goals EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES Thursday, January 10, 1963 .

    3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

    17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.
    26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.” 

    (Leviticus 20:13If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.)

    27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”
    30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”
    31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

    36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
    37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

    Luke 10:18And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
    In ancient Hebrew the word for lightning is barack, the word for heaven or the
    heights is bama and to connect the words either an “a” or an “o” is used.

    “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” – Barack Hussein Obama – Audacity of Hope

    2 Thessalonians 2:3 (King James Version)
    3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    Political Correctness a term first seen in Mao’s Little Red Book, a communist engendered abomination that is instituting censorship little by little.

    “If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”- George Washington

    Carl Marx, once wrote that, the goal of the Communists was to quote,. “enter into men’s minds and cast God down from his throne.”

    Matthew 12:31Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.


    In ancient Babylon their economy was based on usury.
    “If you lend money to one of my people among you who is needy, do not be like a moneylender; charge him no interest. Exodus 22:25
    Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him. Ezekiel 18:13
    Usury is unlawful; expressly prohibited by GOD!
     Article 1 Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution clearly states that only the Congress can print and coin money! 

    The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was slipped thru congress during the Christmas break with the majority of it’s members absent. 

    The Federal Reserve is self serving and privately owned in violation to the Constitution, charging interest on illegally printed money. Money printed from nothing!
    In America On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. Five months later A UNITED STATES PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY was MURDERED BY COMMUNIST! 

    Our own US Congress voted themselves a raise. (But vetoed a raise for those on Social Security) A member of Congress only have to be in Congress one time to receive a pension that is more than $15,000 per month. And most are now equal to being millionaires plus.  If some one in the military stays  in for 20 years (providing that they are not killed in combat before that) and gets out as an E-7, they may receive a pension of $2,000 per month, and the very people who placed them in harm’s way receives a pension of $15,000 per month.

    The debt added by the previous 43 U.S. Presidents from 1789 through 2002 combined was
       $6.3 trillion

    The debt added by Obama is
        $6.5 trillion

    “I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the properties class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.”—Roger Baldwin, leftist, anarchist, and Communist, was born in Wellesley MA and co-founded the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

    “If you lend money to one of my people among you who is needy, do not be like a moneylender; charge him no interest. Exodus 22:25
    Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him. Ezekiel 18:13
    Usury is unlawful; expressly prohibited by GOD!
    In ancient Babylon their priest sacrificed babies to their gods baal, and molech.  
    In America the communist under their socialist programs have sacrificed over 50 million American babies to their god satan!
    Leviticus 20:2-5
    2Again, thou shalt say to the children of Israel , Whosoever he be of the children of Israel , or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel , that giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones.
    3And I will set my face against that man, and will cut him off from among his people; because he hath given of his seed unto Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name.
    4And if the people of the land do any ways hide their eyes from the man, when he giveth of his seed unto Molech, and kill him not:
    5Then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go a whoring after him, to commit whoredom with Molech, from among their people.
    Luke 22:35-36 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” “Nothing,” they answered. 36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.
    Jeremiah 50:16Cut off the sower from Babylon, and him that handleth the SICKLE in the time of harvest: for fear of the oppressing sword they shall turn every one to his people, and they shall flee every one to his own land.
    Jeremiah 50:23How is the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH CUT ASUNDER AND BROKEN! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations!
    Jeremiah 50:14 “ Put yourselves in array against Babylon all around, All you who bend the bow; Shoot at her, spare no arrows, For she has sinned against the LORD.

    “The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of ‘liberalism’ they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.”— Norman Thomas, Socialist Party Presidential Candidate in 1940, 1944 and 1948, co-founder of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
    “We can’t expect the American people to jump from capitalism to communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have communism.”—Nikita Kruschev, former Soviet Premier/dictator.

    All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD will I destroy them. Psalm 118:10

    “The thing that separates the American Christian from every other person on earth is the fact that he would rather die on his feet, than live on his knees!”. George Washington

      2 Timothy 2:15   Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 

    Jeremiah 48: 10Cursed be he that doeth the work of the LORD deceitfully, and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood.

    Revelation 18:21 And a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone, and cast it into the sea, saying , Thus with violence shall that great city Babylon be thrown down , and shall be found no more at all.


  119. Although I see much if not all of this transpiring, I see a few crucial things left out. This will not go on for “years”. The minority leeches will starve to death and begin killing each other for food very quickly and within a few weeks, their population will already be decimated from their own kind. The ones that do venture out of the slums they have made for themselves will be butchered like cattle in very short order and there will be clean up sweeps through what is left of them by aggressive paramilitary response teams that form. It will be over quickly, a matter of a few months. The illegals will run screaming for the border and the ones not shot in the back getting there will not return. The rest of the parasite class scum will starve, die in battles they are very ill prepared for or tracked down and exterminated like rats.

    After that, the producers of America will remain and we will rebuild this country. Many of us have never taken a handout, have always worked for a living and are willing to do what we must do because we love our country. This scenario is indeed coming and it is needed. Brutal as it may be, it is a way to save this country in the long run.

    Many of us are already prepared… Bring it!

  120. Hunting Fascists

    Well written piece. Too bad it will be immediately dismissed by those who need to read it most, because the comments IMMEDIATELY devolved into “AR sux” and “Kill the Joos” crap. Bracken’s is a likely scenario, not simply because of the actions of the MUYs–but because so many of the so-called “good guys” are salivating at the opportunity to FINALLY kill some darkies without legal repercussions.

    You may become an ally of circumstance, but good and righteous people will be watching and waiting…

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  122. One aspect not mentioned is that most ARs, AKs, etc. have been registered. If you truly want to survive a scenario that is presented here, I strongly recommend that you acquire your weapons with cash from individuals. What makes you think for one moment, that a government [or any surviving reasonable facsimile thereof, wouldn’t shut down the entire power & communications grids, and forceably kick in your doors to consficate the arms listed at your house????

  123. Gerard,
    You, my friend, need help. This is the United States of America, our Constitution is in place for a reason, and should be respected by all, government especially, laws are only followed by the law abiding, so passing draconian measures like you describe only empowers the lawless, and this “death to all who speak against the king!” crap will never fly in this country.
    Could our Government prevent a scenario like this most of the time? Probably.
    Should our Government punish those who act to defend their families and homes or band together to do so? Absolutely not!
    In fact, as I understand the self defense laws in my state, I would speculate that in the “Vigalante Sniper” scenario, if the shooters were selective in who they targeted, for example, engaged only combattants who were an immediate threat to motorists, who the victims would be within their rights to defend themselves against, they would be acting in defense of a third party, and in a real court would possibly be cleared of any wrong doing. It is an extreme scenario, so it is hard to say, and is a subject I will probably debate with an attorney friend in the near future.
    My advise to you, Buy a gun you like, that suits you, learn to use it, teach anyone in your household that is able to use it, enough guns for all that are able is better, but one is better than none, have enough ammo, food, water, and medical supplies to get you by till resupply in a bad situation, most in this country had an isolationist attitude until 9-11, the reply by the masses was always “It cant happen here”, It has happened here, and it does happen here. Get to know your neighbors, I can’t stress this enough, in a bad situation, where all you have is each other, you need to know where you can go for help, or where your wife and or kids can go if need be, be ready to barter, cash has less value if the stores are all closed/raided/burnt, books and board games are good ideas, candles, lanterns, a generator,( but this will only work short term), and if you live in too much of an urban area, be prepared to “bug out” meaning you need to pack as many essentials in a short amount of time and try for an oppertune moment to bolt somewhere safe that is less populated, if you are traveling with firearms, and you probably should be, keep something concealable, but effective, on you, if you have the option to get a CCW endorsement, I would do so. Anybody driving around with a rifle out their window is likely to be seen as a threat and will probably draw fire from almost anyone. Good luck, hopefully this discussion is all speculation that never bears fruit, but in the event that this, or something like this plays out, the more people that have made preparations, the shorter the duration of the unrest.


    Read this article in conjunction with Brackens’.

    Come the collapse, White women will be the mainly sought prize and commodity among the nonwhite enclaves. Protect your women, White man, or face oblivion.

  125. I got to start checking my 6 when I visit and make sure no one is following me back here……

  126. Dont underestimate your AK. To many folks think its only good to 200 yards. That sighted in AK with good ammo is minute of man well past 200 yds.

  127. When martial law is declared that’s when they’ll release their (most likely Russian and Chinese) trained military to either kill on the spot or round up those who don’t agree with big corrupt government (eventually the mark of the beast). There will be no free roaming people. Maybe at the very beginning, because the martial law enforcers can be everywhere all at once instantly. They’ll just need a bit of time to be at a neighborhood near you. This will be the cultivating event.

  128. Katrina in NOLA and a tornado flattening a town are not the same situation, and can’t be compared like you do.

    Katrina gave everyone a week’s advance notice to evacuate inland. The only people remaining in NOLA were the freaks, who acted freaky because there were no normal people around to enforce reasonable behavior. Your tornado did not give enough advance notice for the good people to separate themselves from the bad people by evacuating.

    Big cities are full of freaks, which I define as non-preppers. The upper-middle class who do government paper-pushing jobs that only exist because of taxation, are nearly as freaky as the lower class who do child-breeding jobs that only exist because of taxation. When the dollar crashes the cities are going to get freaky, because few there are used to doing productive jobs.

    Meanwhile, the rural preppers will organize the former social security recipients into running their own soup kitchens and medical clinics, just like church groups were serving hot meals in NOLA where FEMA permitted them to. Retirees have lots of time to work physically non-demanding jobs, and a lifetime of experience and job skills which they prefer to downplay lest someone point out they should be earning a living.

    The cities burning and the peaceful rural soup kitchens of self-sufficient retiree farmers will occur at the same time. This will make it even more clear than the nationalist claim that urban and rural have identical economic interests is nonsense.

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  130. Yes. I fear we face fiscal and economic collapse, followed by social and political collapse. I will link to this from my Old Jarhead blog. (

    Robert A. Hall
    Massachusetts Senate, 1973-83
    Author: The Coming Collapse of the American Republic
    All royalties go to help wounded veterans
    For a free PDF of my 80-page book, write tartanmarine(at)

  131. Keyser Söze

    Pastor Manning knows…

    “Newsalert White Folks Will Riot Pastor Manning” Posted August 4, 2009

  132. I have to agree with Cynthia, I live in Missouri not to far from Joplin. I moved here from a big city, what a difference. The city folks do not get it. I have family that does not get it. However, I get it and that is why I am living out in the middle of no-where and trying to grow a better garden. I have met some neighbors and we all get a long pretty good. When I lived in the city I didn’t get along with my neighbors. They were idiots and I told them so on more than 1 occasion. Luckily, I am more tolerant now. I making my stand right here in the Ozarks home of the good ole boys.

  133. Keyser Söze

    The United States of America occupies 3,794,101 sq mi. The active duty military comprises 1,458,697, plus 857,261 reserve members. U.S. law enforcement equals an additional, (as of 2006), 683,396 full time civilian and 120,000 federal, for a total of 803,396. Adding these manpower numbers gives us a total contingent of 3,119,354 government forces. If we divide this number into total land area, each individual will have a patrol area of 1.216 square miles for a twenty four hour time frame. If we set the patrol time to a 12 hour shift, we now have a patrol area of 2.432 square miles. Now if we estimate 100 million patriot riflemen, divided by the land mass area, we have 26.35 patriots per square mile. So…a singular government individual, patrolling 2.432 square miles, is now going up against 64.046 patriot riflemen…(2.432 miles x 26.35 patriots = 64.046 to one). Depending on how many “Oath Keepers” pull out, will just increase the ratios the singular patroller will be up against.

  134. Fuck you

  135. The MAD Jewess

    We’ve already been suffering flash mobs from the black community and the MSM refuses to report it.

    I feel the same way, I am just not a good writer at all.
    I wish I was.
    Too angry to write well.

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  138. I agree with Bracken 100% on the scenario he presents – it *will* play out like this. Many folks have been warning of just such a scenario for quite a while now, in various formats and from many perspectives – I wrote “What is Coming, and What We Must Do” nearly a year ago…different perspective, essentially a “Get Out Now” piece for those in the large urban centers, delivering the warning at a less detailed, but wider view level of how it will destroy communities and cost tens of millions of lives when it comes. There are many, many of us out here ready to train and lead the FreeFOR security forces – and we have paid for our combat leadership experience with blood, years away from our families, and the loss of good friends on foreign soil too often in the last decade! Here in ‘Carolina, we have a pretty solid network…when the horde rises and the po-po gets worn trough, we will put a stop to them – we already have surveyed our area and know where the good points of control are…and how to infil/exfil fast and clean.

    Just like in Sarajevo, home-court advantage will be a major factor – but this time it is we who know the roads, hills and streams – the land is our friend, whereas the urbanite horde only knows the public housing areas, alleys, and built up areas within a few miles of their crusty, public-funded chicken coop “apartments”…the open land is their enemy. We have to no need or desire to invade their urban places…but the hordes must try to invade our rural/suburban communities, our neighborhoods, to loot and pilage, because the cities have nothing to sustain them. This is why we will prevail… we have the home court, and we have been preparing – it’s not just more or better arms; we have our own comms, medical teams, “shovel teams”, armorers, engineers, etc.

    The clean-up and recovery will take at least a generation, unless God should intervene. For proof, again just look at Bosnia – you are still taking your life in your hands to travel from Kakanj to Vogosca…

    ~Those who abuse Liberty, do so at their own peril!

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  140. Your scenario is far more likely than the other. Many cops are self serving pussies that have abused the authority we granted them and terrorized so many people they’ve made enemies of the majority. They’re going to need all their tanks and automatic weapons from the thugs in the District of Criminals just to cover themselves. They’ll be too worried about protecting each other just like the gang bangers and neither group will care about civilians.

    I agree with your point about breaks across racial lines. It will be like the one giant prison yard come to life throughout America. The people that don’t team up fast or at least cover each other will be toast from one group or another including the cops. (Perfect example the bridge murders by cops in Katrina)

    If any of this happens the criminals running the global show right now will be thrilled as the US collapses. Each one of us needs to make sure it doesn’t and turn our attention on the real terrorists in our midst.

  141. Lack of water, bad things in the water that can be found, lack of knowledge of how to treat the bad water to make it safe, very successful parasites spreading themselves via excretion and water. Dehydration kills fast.

    Most Americans will die with plenty of body fat and without holes from high velocity pellets.

    Even in medium-sized cities, this is still preventable, within physical capability. It does seem to be beyond the current leadership.


  142. Reblogged this on sbtactical and commented:
    very interesting opinions, this might actually be closer to what would happen than a Red Dawn scenario.

  143. Matt,

    Excellent analysis and matches what I witnessed overseas. As sad as it is even in multi-cultural societies when times get tough, people ‘gang’ up with those of similar ethnicity, religion, social standing etc and it becomes ‘us’ and ‘them.’ Yugoslavia and Iraq are two great examples where multi-cultural societies lived peacefully with each other for decades (as long as you weren’t Kurdish in Iraq), intermarried, worked together, etc…then when one faction lights the fuse everyone runs to their racial/religious/social corners…gets together and comes out fighting.

    I’d be interested to know how you think the nation’s criminal gangs (reportedly including over 1.4 million people) will attempt to capitalize on a scenario like yours.


    Andrew J. Jackson

  144. This scenario is pretty plausible, given a fairly implausible trigger takes place, the zeroing out of EBT cards. But why would the ruling class allow such a thing to take place? How better for them to lose legitimacy, the last thing they want to see happen? If anything at all of government is going to continue, it will be food provision for welfare clients, not things like Socialist Security or Obamacare. However what I do see happening is the collectivization of smaller farms as the government decides food is too important to be left to the free market (larger farms, controlled by the crony class, are essentially already part of government). In that case food production has to drop off just as it did in the Soviet Union. That might cause the riots to start.

  145. The article is based on a good theory. But it’s just that – a theory.
    Not to rip it apart since it is highly plausible and somewhat probable but dial it down a notch, geeeze.
    The whole premis is based upon a failure of the EBT system. Will there be disruptions? No doubt. But here is what I saw today and what I think more likely than a failure of the EBT system.
    I was in a store today which was “switching over” their electronic store registers to a new system. Needless to say it was causing all kinds of delays and customers walked away instead of waiting.
    I see scads of so called “temporary technical difficulties” as being the way for feigned failure. The system won’t work for everyone all at once, kind of like a rolling blackout, and will be up the next day or a few hours.
    This will be the new rationing and what tech illiterate is going to argue with technical difficulty? Heck, it’s part of the modern lexicon. We’re working on it.

    Will things get bad? Yeah, but it is and will continue to be a slow bleed. YeeHaww types, the ones with the itchy trigger fingers are the ones more likely to start shooting given that they have given up and believe the absolute worst case scenario is written in stone.
    Be prepared but don’t think it’s a done deal. It’s only a done deal when reasonable men go bat shit crazy.

    Are you bat shit crazy or get off on real life violence instead of watching it in the movies?
    Didn’t think so. Take a chill pill.

  146. I highly recommend it… I’ve done both the receiver bridge and LER rear sight replacement methods and gotten good results with both.

  147. This needs to be pdf’d for saving. While the players are different in Canada, I can see this happening,clearly.

  148. Mountain Rifleman

    John Mosby, I’ve read some of your blogs and it seems you’re the worstest of the poodle poppers. There are twenty million of us, living today, who have served in the armed forces of the U.S. The match you propose isn’t fair. You’re going to use crisco. I was going to tote my BAR, the rifle we used until years after Korea. I’d have to grease it with hog lard so’s to compete with your crisco. Bracken talked about the accuracy of the POS AR to 500 yards. You have to set up a proper range from point blank jungles to 1,200 yards, desert. Bring Artic along he can supply the Chosin cold.
    You have coined a new word in shooting: CPOS, Crisco POS.
    Semper Fi

  149. Planned Patriot

    Very well written. It didn’t have to go this way, but I believe it is now too late to be averted. That’s whyI invested in a Knights Armament SR-25 two years ago, just like the one uncle Sam gave me to use in the sand box… will do the job out to at least 800 yards, and 168 grains of lead spells D*E*A*T*H to whatever it kisses. Never wanted to have to do that kind of killing here at home, but if that is what must be, then so be it. We have over 50 families in our group, and over 300,000 rounds of ammo, plus everything else we need to survive… When the zombies come, we will do the work that needs doing, and God help us all…

  150. Mr. Chuck: Point taken. Agreed. Thanks.

  151. Your point is? I’ll add to the challenge. I’ll put a steel silhouette up at an unknown distance between 900 and 1200 yards, at the end of our mutual torture test. If you can hit it, one round out of five, for ten rounds, I’ll personally pay you $500 in silver coin.
    So, put up or shut the fuck up.

  152. James Bancroft

    Well John you need to get updated man, Mobil One synthetic motor oil has proven as good as the best for gun oil…I don’t think I’ll run out soon. And I am too old to run, so it will work just fine till I don’t need it anymore!

  153. Well we didn’t sent a whole lot of riflemen to that conflict, and spray and pray became the SOP, so that has nothing to do with the weapon. If you don’t aim it, you don’t hit anything… Remember, “Aim small , miss small…”

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  155. Gandalf White

    This very cogent article by Bracken sure reminded me of the following:
    “If a society provided no organized protection against force,
    it would compel every citizen to go about armed, to turn his home
    into a fortress, to shoot any strangers approaching his door~or
    to join a protective gang of citizens who would fight other
    gangs, formed for the same purpose, and thus bring about the
    degeneration of society into the chaos of gang rule, i.e., rule
    by brute force, into perpetual warfare of prehistoric savages.” …Rand

  156. Mountain Rifleman

    There you go again, cheatin’ John. You’ll set the target, but you won’t shoot it yourself. So, the challenge, set a three minute steel gong at unknown distances between 900 and 1,200 yards. Use your POS AR in .223. If you ever hit the target pay yourself in Crisco, or shut the fuck up.

  157. Have I once stated that the AR was effective to 1200 yards? No. So, keep coming up with excuses tough guy. My offer stands, as posted, on my blog.

  158. I kinda like the BAR….but that fuckers heavy!

  159. I’d take that challenge just for the opportunity ..

  160. Remember “Unintended Consequences” , …. there are young geeks out there that will become patriots and I guaranteee you they can hack the personnel files of the ABC groups….

  161. I’m a USMC Vet, currently discharged in a First Responder career field. Married to a good woman but she’s ultimately an idiot when it comes to real life & the dangers outside the front door. We have two children under 5yrs (both boys) and I am preparing for what I know is coming. I hope we can buy a few more years to get my sons close to the teen years before the SHTF. I fear we are on borrowed time. Nothing makes me more mad that asking her to participate or at the least get educated on what is brewing & she is more concerned with the sewage that is pumped into our home hourly on the idiot box.
    You can lead a horse to water.

  162. David, somewhat naive I think, the NSA has a record of every site you have ever visited, they know of every gunshow you went to and gave them your E-mail addy or if you ever subscribed to a gun or hunting mag. If you ever bought ammo on a credit card or at Walmart, had a hunting license, belonged to a gun club ….you are on the list. If you are a VET, they will have you at the top of their list, having a registered gun is of little import…..

  163. Nubbin-Finger Jake Rodell

    Hognutz, the book has already been written: Civil War Two: The Coming Breakup of America, by Thomas Chittum way back in 1996. Chittum got the Gang / Racial angle, but is fuzzy on the “spark.” Back in Ought 96, who could have foreseen EBT usage would be at such a high percent of the Population as it is today. Bracken has clarified what that “spark” might be in the near future.

  164. When the hunger begins to bite, supermarkets, shops and restaurants will be looted, and initially the media will not condemn the looting.

    That’s only until the grocery stores in the MSM reporters’ neighborhoods run out of food. After that, you will hear cries of hysteria that the Govt. do something fast to “mend the fabric of society that is torn by the legacy of slavery and segregation”.

  165. Semper Fi, 0321

    Nothing new here. Most men are dealing with exactly the same issues you are. Welcome to modern reality.
    I got lucky, sorta. I live with a woman who loves to hunt elk, preps like no one else, extremely educated, and then plays the Democrat vote because she’s black! How’s that for reasoning.
    Sure ain’t a perfect world, is it?

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  167. Nubbin-Finger Jake Rodell

    Dan, you and SeaDragon should be aware of this old Racial Separatist bylaw: In the coming Conflict, your skin (color) will be your uniform. While White militia will be savage in their resistance to the oncoming Non-White Hoards, I hope that the racially reawakened remnant will finally pull together to build the White Republic our forefathers intended to bequeath to us.

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  169. Nubbin-Finger Jake Rodell

    Keyser Söze? I believe in God, but the only thing that scares me is Keyser Söze! Pastor Manning is one cool Negro. When Bracken scenario comes to fruition, we should get him out of NYC and appoint him to the position of a Tokyo Rose or Axis Sally propagandist. Also, let’s not forget what this young man has to say regarding the viability of the Negro Militia vis-a-via the White Militia: Blacks Will Lose Race War

  170. I couldn’t agree more Cynthia.

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  172. Nubbin-Finger Jake Rodell

    Amen, Brother. Racism will Exist where ever the Races are forced to Co-Exist. Don’t Miscegenate – Separate!!

  173. My Capt. said you were the real deal.


  174. I’ve used meetup to a good advantage for finding like minded people. Market as a prepping group and vett the shooters as you find them. We had 13 people at our first meeting, and we live in a city of about 50k. Find a LDS food bank and stock up. You fan buy a year’s worth of calories for 1 person for less than 300 dollars. Hit up buds tun shop online for an ‘excellent ‘ condition moisin nagant 120 dollars, thousand rounds of ammo for a couple hundred. Boom you are better of than 90% of Americans.

  175. Nubbin-Finger Jake Rodell

    Sadly, for you, most of those who you intend to slander consider themselves “Good and Righteous people.” Likewise, we also understand the immutable laws of God and Nature and that these laws have been inverted by the Joos and the Darkies (as you call them) that our Liberal White Pukes (Gooey and Rancorous people) have allowed to subjugate this land for, let’s say, the last 60 years. I’ll give the Communists’ one thing – They certainly have demonstrated – better than any Fascist government – how to rid their societies of Disloyal and Traitorous elements. I hope we “fascists” can take that page from the Communist playbook this go-round. Then, just maybe, we can prevent a repeat of this Hell-bound situation for a future generation.

  176. Good news everybody!
    These things have two minor design flaws. They are vulnerable to trap guns and they are colored orange or white.
    All we have to do is trick them in to attacking trap, skeet, or sporting clays ranges.

  177. There are times I get sick of the whole AR debate.
    The reason Special Forces types have so little jamming trouble with the AR type rifles is that they clean them obsessively often several times a day.
    Some SF groups are known to run around with little bottles of lubricant spraying the bolt carrier as they go between shooting incidents.
    If you lubricate an AR slightly wrong for the environment it will jam. It is uniquely vulnerable to jamming due to lubricant issues.
    Not every one is Special Forces, imagine a Combat Engineer stopping his primary job to clean his rifle several times a day or an artilleryman. How about a tank or other vehicle crew? The AR will not reliably perform for those who can’t spend prodigious amounts of time on it.
    To work well an AR requires too much maintenance to preform reliably.

    If you use the wrong rifle powder in the AR and it will perform unreliably.
    This is an inexcusable unforgivable design flaw after the lessons of world war two and Korea!

    The AR is a very accurate yet delicate firearm.
    I have been until I let it lapse a Certified Colt AR15/M16 Armorer so I know what I am talking about. I have fixed Mil-Spec, poorly manufactured, home builds, great quality, and parts guns.
    None of them are suitable for those who are not full time shooters. And when the SHTF most people will not be full time professional shooters.

  178. Are you joking? Everything you said is basically encouraging a Dictatorship. Have you read the NDAA? It allows picking up people and locking them up forever! And you said you are OK with ending the First Amendment.

    Taking a step back. It looks like you’re an old school Communist. And we know how well that hasn’t worked ANYWHERE.

    A system where everything is controlled. And those at the top enjoy the best. Until the system turns on them.

  179. post*tenebras*lux

    Please excuse my ignorance, but what is CFR approval?

  180. hipshotpercusion

    Gerhard, you sound like a good little NAZI. Rot in Hell with uncle Adolph and uncle Joe!

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  182. The challenge stands. Otherwise, STFU and get back on task.

  183. Non whites riot and whites come to the rescue. Nice stereotyping. I am not surprised. Funny how there is no mention of white criminals or law abiding non whites. There is no mention of non white vets who are loyal to their country and want to protect their families. Occupy wall street is a perfect example of the people who would riot. There are whites in there too. Yes there will be a lot of minorities rioting, but they won’t be the only ones. That is my complaint.


  185. Jonathan Trumbull

    Why no mention of stockpiling tinfoil to ward off the mind control rays? That’ll be the first thing before they come for our guns.

  186. the riots were confined to small areas. Any movement out of those areas will either be resisted by armed whites, but not by fantasy sniper teams, but just armed groups. After the first few rounds headed toward them, the black or Hispanic rioters will flee.

    That’s what happened in 1992. The rioters headed for the Hollywood Hills, and were turned back by armed whites.

    If America collapses into the mess described, every enemy and foreign power that can paddle a canoe or wade the Rio Grande will send troops here to claim a piece.

    Yeah, a lot of prophecies have been made about that, by various religious mystics and also, allegedly, by George Washington himself.

    Summarizing ….America is under judgement for national sin. (If you don’t believe that, you’ve missed the point of most of the Old Testament.) The judgement begins with economic failure, civil strife, and natural disasters, culminating in the long predicted New Madrid midwest megaquake. When we are “down for the count” after that, external enemies will attack; the “Red Dawn War” will happen for real. Nukes will fly, and then China, Russia, Mexico, and several smaller nations will invade. Our military and our government are overwhelmed and ultimately lose and we will suffer a brutal occupation. We will regain our freedom only after years of guerilla war.

    It’s looking more and more plausible. And on that note — print this out and put it in your survival stash, just in case. (source: Freerepublic)

    Not to be sung publicly til after the war…

    Oh say can you see, by the savage red dawn,
    The long-prophesied war, and our land’s devastation?
    For God’s judgement is just, yet His mercy lives on,
    In the remnant preserved, for restoring the nation.
    With our government gone, our guerillas fought on
    And victory came, when the Lord made them strong
    And the star spangled banner, by God’s grace shall wave,
    O’er the land of the free, and the home of the brave.

  187. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Generally excellent comments/observations, lotta good thinkin’ goin’ on. A minor quibble w/ one aspect of Bracken’s scenario & one point that imo hasn’t been addressed.

    The quibble is about the ‘Q-ship’ concept laid out in the essay & in particular the designated armament – majority rifles, some handguns, NO shotguns – & this is supposed to be the set-up for dealing w/ mass/massed targets? As boom fruit & full auto weapons were specifically excluded, the most effective crowd dispersant’s a shotgun due to the fact that it puts a lot of min/disabling-max/dispiriting objects in the air & that effect increases each time it’s fired & that’s just direct fire. Then there’s the indirect fire/’skip effect’ which’ll do a great job of reducing active opposition thus allowing one to vacate an area quicker under the terms of the scenario. Shotguns are also easier for the non-/minimally trained to hit w/ & yes, I know that they don’t lay waste to all in front of them & that they do require a modicum of aiming to be effective, but the point is to hit SOMETHING when one lets fly rendering as many of the attackers ineffective (even temporarily) as possible as fast as possible w/ the least amount of effort/resources. Shotguns do exactly that & quite well thus why they’re still in the mil inventory despite all the other ‘better’ implements that’re available. Whether handgun or rifle, up to/including GPMGs, unless one’s using an M2HB or ‘minigun’ the game’s still one projectile/shot & for the untrained/unexperienced under firefight stress the shotgun (imo) makes more sense.

    The mindset for rifle primacy apparently rests on the power/distance equation & to a point it’s correct, but in an urban/suburban mass engagement situation such as the one envisioned you simply can’t shoot fast enough to dissuade attackers before being engulfed unless you happen to have a BUNCH of disciplined/experienced shooters (LE/mil vets) w/ you. A kill shot’s nice, but in the final analysis hits count more & especially when the prospect of medical salvation’s gone. It’s also disheartening for attackers to have to move on their target while manuevering around/over their wounded/dying, i.e., da boyz/grrlz jus ain’t accustomed ta dat kyna thang, ya no, an it’s nervous makin’ wen peepulz iz shootin’ atcha an yooz shootin’ back an yoo be slippin’ on all that blood an stuff an yo dawgz iz droppin’ an screamin’ an s**t an those mofos JUST KEEP SHOOTIN’ AN SHOOTIN’ AN SHOOTIN’ AN SHOOTIN’ an it don’t matter if dey shootz wimmin oh chirrin oh wutdaf**k, THEY KEEPS ON SHOOTIN’ UNTIL YO ALL DEAD OH TOO CRIPPED TO FIGHT ENNYMO.

    Unless I’m severely mistaken, isn’t the whole object of the exercise to reduce attackers mentally as well as physically, isn’t that the purpose behind the various suggestions for full corpse/heads on pikes displays?

    Concerning the ‘racial’ angle of the tribe model, it appears that admission’s primarily color based (‘one’s own kind’) w/o exception & if that’s the case, is it “too bad, buddy” for such as Walter Williams/Thomas Sowell/similar? Perhaps I’ve been infected w/ the ‘kumbaya virus’ & so ‘just don’t understand the way things are/gonna be when SHTF’ & as such better ‘get my mind right FAST before I get myself/those w/ me dead’ & badly so. Mebbe so, but it seems wasteful to me to exclude quality folks like the aforementioned/similar since they’re going to be needed for whatever societal reconstruction efforts (if any) are contemplated. I don’t know what Michio Kaku’s orientation is, but it’d have to be pretty bad before I’d tell him/similar to split. Bouncing such as Noam Chomsky/similar’s fine, but imo a society needs to be sufficiently broad based to be successful long term & avoid the perils inherent in the ‘decent society’ proposals of various outfits.

    There’re some other things, but the above are good for starters.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

    Btw, the comment counter says 191! Sure didn’t seem like that many to me. Is there another page, 2-3-5-10 I missed?

  188. Pretentious people that pretend to know the future, All I see here is pretentious people. All I see here is people that are afraid.
    From music band Kansas: “And if I claim to be a wise man, well It surely means that I don’t know”

  189. This is a well written piece and would be an entirely plausible scenario, if and only if, there was one key piece of reality that wasn’t omitted. The might and ferocity of the United States Armed Forces as well as the flagrant militarization of the the “Population Control Unit”, DHS. Not to mention the same thing with police all over the country. My feeling is that most people here are probably in the know about some of the more recent not-so-covert actions of the US Government. 500 million rounds of .40 Hornady FTX. Social Security just purchased several hundred thousand rounds, as did the FDA, the National Weather Service, and a few others. You think those bullets are for grandma and rainclouds?

    Think again… If riots break out, they will be utterly crushed under this juggernaut we have allowed to grow. If they are not crushed, it is because the Powers that Be (Repub/Demo doesn’t matter, they are two side of the same coin) want the riots to fester. If you arm yourselves with rifles as racial militias you will be dealt the most devastating amount of lethal force far beyond what a paltry assault rifle could possibly defend against. Drones, planes, APCs, and well body armored trained regular forces will bury your fantasy in an orgy of pyrotechnics.

    Sorry to piss in the collective cornflakes here, it is just hard to beleive that anyone actually thinks they could stop This Machine, we have let become what it is today. You are hopelessly outgunned and understaffed.

  190. @Cassandra: First, about the ‘racial bias’ issue – that will mostly be on the part of the urban youth…they are the most heavily segregated (partly by choice) and will do what teens & 20-somethings without life experience do – they stick in their peer group because that is their comfort zone. As far as I’m concerned, anyone in my community who has a reasonably conservative attitude, demonstrates actual respect for their neighbors and community, and is willing to defend their community is my ally. But at the same time, I learned a thing or two over in Crap-ghanistan about infiltrators – they are the one thing worse than a traitor, and so deserve a death worse than a traitor’s. Deal with them accordingly, and make sure the enemy witnesses the spectacle… I’m talking about a modern version of heads-on-pikes stuff here – think road-flares and duc-tape for starters [you do have a stockpile of incredibly useful road-flares, right?]

    As for the question of rifle supremacy – you should have about 10 rifles for every shotgun/machine gun/voodoo stick/etc. and *every adult* in your tribe should be developing their skills as a rifleman!! No Excuses. The effective range of a good rifle is a major force-multiplier. If you have allowed a mob to get within shotgun range, you have already squandered your advantage, and are facing the immediate risk of failure, and probably death. Now, for the security detail on one of these counter-rioting missions described in the article, a shotgun is a great weapon…but for the main gunners, you’d better have rifles qualified to reliably deliver the business at 250-500 yards, minimum. Bear in mind, at 400 yards or more a car is excellent cover against a 5.56x45mm round – thus I would prefer to see a heavier gun in the scenario described – for the 300-750 yard range, 7mm or 7.5mm Mauser, 7mmMag, .308WIN, 30-06, .300WinMag, or 8mm Mauser are all substantially more effective.

    A relatively inexpensive 8mm Mauser with a decent piece of glass on it can be built out for $500 or less, and while ammo is a bit more expensive than the typical 5.56mm55gr/FMJ,the real question is what yields a better overall value to you, a 1:1 hit ratio at $0.80/shot from 600 yards, or a 1:1 hit ratio at $0.25/shot but you have to shoot from 200 yards – the answer is, “the more frequently you are hitting, and the further away you are hitting from, the more lifespan you probably have left to enjoy!!” I call that valuable. Of course, smart use of terrain and cover also improve life expectancy under such conditions, as does having a quick, clean exfiltration plan prepared in case the enemy surprises you back.

    I’m not saying everyone should go spend $7k or more on a SR-25 plus a Leupold Mk-IV scope like some of those who have commented here [ I wouldn’t discourage it, either, if you have the funds] – rather, look at a good .300WinMag bolt action gun [such as a Remington 700] with a decent scope, which can be built for under $2000. What I am saying is that there should be a few folks in your ‘tribe’ [who are gifted & disciplined to marksmanship] with a decent 1000 meter gun such as this, and the tribe should support their training activities for sniping in the 500+ meter range. Someone who can reliably reduce a target at 750+ meters [say the driver of a vehicle bearing down on your neighborhood] is worth their weight because they will buy the tribe a LOT of time to respond to incoming aggressive forces that you wouldn’t otherwise have – thus the saying “Snipers Save Lives, One Shot at a Time”.

    Be prepared, and don’t let the moon-bats distract you,

    ~Those who abuse Liberty, do so at their own peril!

  191. Ha ha ha ha ha. I almost thought you were serious.

    Over in the Big Sandboxes, the closer you get to the sharp end, the whiter the faces around you get. Yeah, Shaneequa and Keywanda and Yasminia joined the Army–as truck drivers, because the bennies were even better than welfare. Army Infantry and Marine Riflemen are pretty white. Army Airborne and Marine Force Recon are whiter yet. And when you start getting to CAS pilots and Navy SEALS, it’s so white it looks like a Mormon high school marching band.

    When the EBT cards stop working, the fast-breeding IQ-55 bongonians, lacking the intellectual wherewithal to feed themselves in non-tropical environments lacking abundant low-hanging fruit (and also lacking the intellectual wherewithal to grasp that they lack the intellectual wherewithal), starve. Full stop. Yes, ZOG will spend its very last penny and try to borrow more from the Chinese to keep the EBT money flowing for its special pets. But it can’t go on forever. And things that can’t go on forever eventually stop. There’s going to be a die-back among the useless eaters, and it’s going to be positively Biblical. It’s going to be very ugly, and not everyone is going to make it. But when the dust settles, I predict this country is going to be a LOT whiter, and a lot more peaceful, than before.

  192. That “400,000 rounds per dead gook” figure includes ammo used in training.

  193. NO! Your challenge is fixed and you know that as well as I do.
    The Mle 1918 Chauchat, in US .30-06 caliber would stand a good chance of surviving your pathetic “abuse” test and working. I am not stupid or ignorant enough to fall in to such an obvious trap.
    This is probably why Mountain Rifleman is teasing you.
    For a big bad SF man you are the most thin skinned one I have run across.
    Do you display such behavior any time someone questions the great Mosey?

    How about a test that features some real abuse. Abuse that simulates some real world situations?
    Or a simple little challenge like this after you coat it in Crisco Shoot it till the Crisco melts now throw it in the mud. Kind of like falling in the mud while running during a fight. Cold Crisco will repel the mud well hot will not do so well.
    This is how you Fixed your challenge!

  194. NO! Your challenge is fixed and you know that as well as I do.
    The Mle 1918 Chauchat, in US .30-06 caliber would stand a good chance of surviving your pathetic “abuse” test and working. I am not stupid or ignorant enough to fall in to such an obvious trap.
    This is probably why Mountain Rifleman is teasing you.
    For a big bad SF man you are the most thin skinned one I have run across.
    Do you display such behavior any time someone questions the great Mosey?

    How about a test that features some real abuse. Abuse that simulates some real world situations?
    Or a simple little challenge like this after you coat it in Crisco Shoot it till the Crisco melts now throw it in the mud. Kind of like falling in the mud while running during a fight. Cold Crisco will repel the mud well, hot will not do so well. Similar response with gun oil.
    This is how you Fixed your challenge!

    You are the one off task fighting this AR action diverting from Mr. Bracken’s post so you can push the church of the AR.
    So take your own advice and I quote”STFU and get back on task”.

    Sorry folks for the double post it posted in the wrong spot while I was working on it I do not know why. I apologize profusly.

  195. Sorry folks for the double post it posted in the wrong spot while I was working on it I do not know why. I apologize profusely.

  196. Haha! Goddamn…..

  197. Good comment!


    1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.

    2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people

    3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal.

    4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state.

    5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.

    6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.

    7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.

    8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to “keep the peace” or to “maintain control.”

    9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.

    10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.

  199. Among the Indian tribes of North America, it was a rite of passage for young men to attack another tribe, burn a few homes, kill a few men, kidnap a few women (and take them as wives), etc. In due time, the other tribe would respond in kind.

    When white settlers arrived, the Indians raided them too, and got a very different reaction: The whites would organize a militia and wipe out the whole tribe. Tribal chiefs saw this danger and tried to make peace, but they couldn’t control their testosterone-crazed young men.

    Since 1965, blacks have also lost all capacity for self-control. They used to have jobs, families, and churches, but those stabilizing influences withered away under Welfare, Section 8, and EBT. Nor do blacks have any living memory of what white citizens can do when pushed too far.

    I almost feel sorry for the blacks who think they’re finally going “get whitey”.

  200. Ein Schweizer, sieben Deutsche.


  201. But… but…. the constant propaganda pushing the politically correct (PC) agenda says that diversity is our strength and that all culture are equal and all are beautiful.

    I have noticed a HUGE lack of promulgating unifying bonds but I assumed that was non-PC

  202. ” As far as I’m concerned, anyone in my community who has a reasonably conservative attitude, demonstrates actual respect for their neighbors and community, and is willing to defend their community is my ally.”

    Exactly. Race alone cannot be allowed to become the prime directive, certainly not for our side.

    We will need all the talent, faith, cooperation, courage and humanity we can muster in order, not just to survive, but to rebuild.

  203. It is easy to blame and demonize racist blacks, and they deserve what they earn by their behavior, but it was whites who did this to them, as you noted. Well, white politicians, black race hustlers and duped guilted out white voters….

  204. Having a plan to be safe and provided for in these circumstances is the main thing – I do sense a lot of racially charged innuendos to the discussion (your acronyms are cute, yet thin veils of this). The issues that are present are present in EVERY urban area, and keep in mind that even the most well stocked of supermarkets anywhere are only on a 4 day food supply. Flash mobs occur in many racial and financial cultural sub sets, and are even more likely to happen if dire circumstances present themselves. I’m really not trying to pick any type of argument with anyone, I’m just saying PLEASE protect your family and loved ones and do NOT single any one group as “the enemy”. The “type” of people to be on guard for are UNPREPARED PEOPLE. Period.

  205. Well, Jay, you’re in the right town for such thinking.

    There’s more than one way to skin a skunk. I doubt many of us seek a stand up fight, Napoleonic Wars fashion, with the storm troopers…

    A deeper inquiry into these and other pages might reveal to you that your “contribution” here does not come as a great revelation, Been a whole lotta thinkin’ going on ’round here for a long time.

  206. Gee, Jonathon, why no mention of stockpiling Preparation H?

  207. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Another Anon/5Sept12@01:27,

    Excellent point & one that’s all too often overlooked/dismissed in the flurry over what weapon/caliber/technique is ‘the best’. A sharp operator w/ a rock in a sock makes me more nervous than an idiot w/ a M2HB does as the former KNOWS he’s at a distinct disadvantage & has to be on his game, while the latter’s reliance on tech as a substitute for knowledge & ability is a near guarantee of failure as such are quite easy to spook into one or more oopsies that can lead to unpleasant consequences.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  208. Cassandra (of Troy)


    “Get smart, guys;……in power.”

    Is the following perhaps an example of the non-zionist ‘jinos’ you refer to?:

    Democrat Chair Spews Anti-Christian Hate Speech

    “Zionist-leaning Jews in America……pre-emptive defense.”

    The well documented hostility displayed by the vast majority of Jewish orgs (who btw are also ardent Zionists) toward the 2A disputes your claim. The late Aaron Zelman/JPFO (G-d bless him/his family/org) regularly railed against such as Joe Lieberman, Abe Foxman, & Chuck Schumer for being anti-2A Zionists &, IIRC, he considered them/similar to be quasi-kapos. Being an Orthodox/ultra-Orthodox Jew no more translates into automatic support for the 2A due to religious conservatism than does atheism/’liberalism’ = reflexive opposition to it.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  209. Keyser Söze

    From the comments in this debate from this past June.

    #110 June 26, 2012 at 8:26 am
    George commented:
    “He who is prudent and Lies in wait for an enemy who is not…Will be victorious ”

    ~Sun Tzu

    Come down our Street and its GOING TO BE A REAL SHORT PARADE
    The people will not stand for this ….. It would go something like this

    Bring it …..

  210. Cassandra (of Troy)


    “LA to mars in 6 hours”

    That indicates some form of low output para-gravitic drive/LOPGD instead of something more advanced like a singularity or spatial displacement system which is what’d be needed to do the things you describe on the scale you outline. Even low end DE weapons are notorious power hogs, & when you add in reasonably effective shielding/’cloaking’, teleporters, bio-/non-bio electrical, & mechanical control/disruption devices you necessarily require a HEFTY level of energy generation & a LOPGD just ain’t got the oomph. Decent IR/C (inertia re-direction/cancellation) eqpmt alone takes at least 10cubed terawatts to operate properly, & if one’s using a temporal/dimensional retention field for the body of the vessel instead of an actual physical one you run into the previously mentioned problems w/ LOPGD.

    Sounds like your friend’s either blowing smoke in your ear, running a disinfo op, or believes he’s the new Albert K. Bender. Before accepting anymore from that source as true, you should quiz him about something elementary like what type of primary systems controls are used in the craft he allegedly worked on/tested as that’ll clue you into what he really knows.

    Hint: You can’t reverse engineer certain kinds of systems w/o a SERIOUS assist & that kind of help won’t come from the kind of culture that uses LOPGD.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

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  212. Keyser Söze

    The below link is video from the Chicago Fire Department, 1968 MILK riots. This is when Mayor Daley issued his infamous “shoot to kill” order. Why a shoot to kill order? Because the city was running out of fire fighting resources and the Mayor was worried he may lose the entire city.

    This may give some understanding when making a weapons choice.

  213. Cassandra (of Troy)


    Psi’s better, less to go boing at the wrong time, undetectable, & the disbelief factor also favors the user. W/o proper training & judicious restraint, however, the internal stress can cause unpleasant side effects as remote viewers have discovered. Same goes for genuine magic.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  214. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Grenadier 1/5Sept12@13:08,

    And in the .30cal flavor w/ non-GI ammo like HP/SP, the effect of being hit w/ the equivalent of a .30-30 round is verrabad indeed for the recipient & when such is rapidly repeated……



    Cassandra (of Troy)

  215. I am in the reverse situation but I don’t have any military training. I have been trying for years to wake my hubby up, to no avail. It is maddening. We are gun owners but I don’t really know how to use them. I dont know what else I can do besides buying a few extra canned goods when I shop. The few times I have actually made bigger purchases in attempt to build a supply I was laughed at by him. He is the breadwinner and pays the bills so I really can’t make purchases on the sly. We have two school aged children and live in the Phoenix metro area. I am scared for my children, but I feel helpless.

  216. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Hunting Fascists/5Sept12@11:56,

    “IMMEDIATELY devolved into “AR sux” ”

    Reasonably close to the facts, but the

    “and “Kill the Joos crap”

    part’s quite a bit off the mark unless such is in some of those comments I can’t seem to find. And as far as many of the “good guys” salivating at the prospect of killing some ‘darkies’ goes, there are some who fit that description, but not near as many as you imply. Unless, that is, you consider those who’ve decided to repel the boisterousness of the ethnic group that comprises the majority of thug life practitioners as semi-crypto ‘fascists’. Is that perhaps what you meant, HF?

    And please specify exactly the meaning of your ominous sounding final ‘thought’, because it sounds to me like you’re intending to do to others that which you imply you despise using the same ‘religious’ justification for your actions. If that’s the case, then HF stands for Hypocritical F*** instead of the pseudo-noble moniker you used.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

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  218. “All I see here is people that are afraid.”

    That’s interesting. All I see here are people that are overcoming their fear, as their whole country gets put in chains. And with what are those chains bound? Fear, of course—fear that they couldn’t possibly survive without their master’s control.

    IOW you’ve got it exactly backwards. But this is even more classic…

    “From music band Kansas: ‘And if I claim to be a wise man, well It surely means that I don’t know'”

    Too rich. This states explicitly that it’s IMPOSSIBLE to be both wise and know it…that wisdom (and presumably rationality itself) is IMPOSSIBLE to a human. No wonder we need those masters, eh?

    Funny how you can’t be sure of anything…but that.

    Your handle tells us your dream. Is it alright with you that some of us choose otherwise?

  219. Sounds like the cell towers in many area will have be shutdown. After all stop the MUY’s from getting their marching orders, and they cannot organize.

  220. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Sam Fisher/5Sept12@13:03,

    From the examples I’ve seen of what purportedly constitutes ‘Aryan beauty’, if it was a choice between doing them or doing w/o their aesthetic & intellectual paucity would preclude arousal in any male possessing even the slightest semblance of discernment & self-respect. The depressing thing is that most modern males lack those qualities & so such ‘nymphs’ will be seen as desirable thus assuring the continued existence of white trash. Pity.

    Are you perhaps acquainted w/ Norman Spinrad’s The Iron Dream? Given the tone of your comment & that of the site you recommend, it seems that you/similar would absolutely adore it. S.M. Stirling’s Draka series might also prove to be appealing for similar reasons.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  221. Cassandra (of Troy)

    LT Prepper/5Sept12@16:51,

    RE: Your NC Renegade essay

    It’s not just us & Europe:

    Even Worse Than California

    The rot has spread w/ assiduous vigor. And as we cogitate on the terrible possibilities here & trans-Atlantic when the current system goes SPLAT, even more horrific things are in store for Latin America, Africa, Asia, & the Mid-East/Israel. India/China/Russia alone will be interesting.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  222. Absolutely – removing Command and Control facilities of the opposing force is always a first priority – doubly so in asymetric warfare scenarios such as this. Shoot out all the cables going up the pole to shut a cell tower down while doing minimal permanent damage. Of course, if you have the right rifle (see above, a 1000-yard rig), then a cell tower, water tower, etc. is a perfect viewpoint from which to reduce enemy activity. Just make sure that your security team doesn’t allow any visitors, as you only have one exfil option, and it is no fun to rap down under fire ;P

  223. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Semper Fi, 0321/5Sept12@23:52,

    Well SF, w/ the publication of your lady’s ethnicity you’ve placed yourselves on Sam Fisher/similar’s hit list & thereby are made appropriately distraught. Ye & she are in trouble now, ya damned blabbermouth! And no, y’all can’t hide out w/ me as a portion of my ancestry makes me a target under the ‘one drop rule’ despite my appearence. Science, in this case DNA testing, is indeed a 2 edged sword.

    Mayhap the Luddites have a point.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  224. Question:

    If the “MUYs” can’t afford a loaf of bread, exactly how are they going to pay for their cell phones to execute their military like precision communication system?

  225. Thanks to the Feds, a lot of MUYs have subsidized cellphones!

  226. The battle does not belong to the brave or the strong.

    Sneaky will defeat the most formidable foe.

  227. close, but no tesla

    hey, ya wanna watch a good movie tonite? the spook who sat by the door- directed by ivan ‘kinch’ dixon – got the whole occupy/commie fist right on the poster – might still be on the free movie sites – FBI was forced to hire minorities and ended up with one – HMFC of the copy machine (and other related duties) down in the basement -went back to chicago and went rogue

  228. Soon the Day of Rope will be at hand

  229. Wilson Clark

    I’m thinking that proactive organized vigilance just might be on offer, anything to rid of us of Eric Holder, et al… I can always at least hope for a Reverse October Surprise… …perhaps an unlikely patriotic group will sort things out?

    I have Linked below a speculative novella in PDF format, just a little something that I wrote – –



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  231. Kevin J Kehoe

    Just Picked up my second Glock 20 Excellent Choice

  232. Cassandra (of Troy)


    Don’t allow your marital situation or lack of mil experience distress you overmuch, many here & at similar sites have/have had the same problem. Experience is the result of applied training & training is relatively easy to get. If approached properly, you might even get hubby interested allowing you to indirectly get what you want. Yes, it’s a bit deceitful, but as you said, you have others to think about & it sounds like you’ve just about decided to do what you need to do whether hubby gets hip or not. If that impression’s correct, the following may be of assistance but be advised that my knowledge of AZ is very limited. And w/ that disclaimer out of the way, let’s proceed.

    It’s usually a good idea to ask around at various gun shops (NOT ‘sporting goods’ stores) & shooting ranges about which training facilities are good ones, but don’t let the often over-masculinized atmosphere of such establishments put you off, & don’t let yourself be patted on the head & treated like you’re ‘just a girl’. You also have to hold up your end by not behaving that way, & if the people who run a shop can’t get past your sex go somewhere else.

    While you’re doing that, it won’t hurt to do some online research & the following might be helpful to that end. First, the big outfits.:

    Arizona State Rifle & Pistol Association

    Arizona Citizens Defense League

    Next, here are some shooting schools but remember the disclaimer about my familiarity. I also have no financial or other interests in them. They are listed in order of their distance from Phoenix.:

    Maricopa Tactical

    Insight Firearms Training Development

    Gunsite Academy
    (This is one of the most respected shooting schools in the world.)

    In addition to the above, there’s a lot of printed & video material you can get that will help you quite a bit. The following material is print, there’s too much video out there to list & all too often what’s out there is garbage.:

    Jeff Cooper, the man who invented the ‘modern technique’ of pistol shooting. I recommend the following books highly.

    Principles of Personal Defense
    (Available thru Amazon. Worth having as a primer.)

    To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth
    (Available from Gunsite Academy as is their video training series. Both are worth having, check them out by clicking on Jeff Cooper Books & Gunsite Training DVD’s at the site above. You can also read some of Cooper’s writings here at WRSA in the Shooting Resources section on the left side of the page.)

    Massad Ayoob, one of the best in that he addresses the legal & mental aspects of armed self-defense. As before, worth having.

    Armed And Alive
    In The Gravest Extreme
    (It’s easier to websearch the titles & click on them than giving the site address, they’ll be listed under Armor of New Hampshire.)

    Paxton Quigley, the first to write about armed self-defense from the female viewpoint. Good stuff.

    Armed And Female
    (Available thru her blogsite)

    Next, an extension of Paxton’s theme.

    Women & Guns magazine
    (No, it’s not what you may be thinking, no ‘babes in bikinis w/ guns’, just a magazine for women by women who shoot. No kidding!)
    Usually available at news stands & maybe some bookstores, or thru the website.

    “I am scared for my children, but I feel helpless.”

    Normal, & you’re not alone by a long shot. The following may help you get past that feeling.:

    “I must not fear. Fear is the mind killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear, I will permit it to pass over me and through me, and when my fear is gone only I will remain.”
    Paul Atreides

    Hope all this helps.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  233. Why does the author assume that the military would not be deployed early, to stop the disorder before it spreads from the cities? As soon as the police are totally overwhelmed, any competent Governor would deploy the National Guard, and if that were insufficient then any competent President would deploy the Army. An assumption of incompetence may be part of a worst-case scenario, but that assumption should still be stated.

    A separate point: I object to the author’s reference to reprisal actions against the families of police/Army forces “by any of the warring sides”. I understand the place for cold-hearted analysis of the tactical realities of a situation, but let’s face it, this piece is intended at least partly as a how-to manual for the White vigilantes. The above passage could be construed to suggest that retaliation against the wives and children of one’s enemies is a legitimate military tactic. It has to be emphasized that when a cause resorts to such a tactic, it has lowered itself to the moral level of Al Qaeda, the Third Reich, or the “merciless Indian savages” of the Declaration of Independence. I am convinced that such a price is too high to pay, even for the preservation of one’s People.

  234. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Jim Klein/7Sept12@10:18,

    Nice slapdown, JK. One of the surest ways to know that one’s making an impact is when bozos like the aptly named justaloser/similar show up. Funny how similar their input is to that of those who work the anti-2A angle, & some are obviously either leftists looking for things to use as examples of ‘right-wing insanity’ or Imperium agents/stooges.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  235. Cassandra (of Troy)

    LT Prepper/6Sept12@20:15,

    You’re too smart to believe that most of the bias’ll be limited to the demographic you specified, LTP, & especially after reading some of the commentary posted here. The rest of that part of your comment I agree w/. And road flares are quite handy & ditto for duct tape, but don’t forget the versatility of Vise Grips!

    Rifle supremacy

    “No Excuses” is too narrow a doctrine as it doesn’t allow for variables. Also, while my point about shotguns was clearly intended to apply to one particular aspect of MB’s essay, I stand by the other points I made & I didn’t read anything in your response that invalidates them. In fact, you confirmed what I was saying when you used distance/power factors as proof of the superiority of rifles which had nothing to do w/ the scenario. I conditionally agree w/ your point about the danger in letting a large force get too close, but that doesn’t detract from my point about the utility of the shotgun as an area/massed target weapon. We’re on the same page, LTP, even if you don’t think so & you inadvertantly hit on what I meant w/ a shotgun equipped ‘security detail’ covering the ‘main gunners’: Weaponry of different types that complement each other when combined. Symmetry! Your observation on the limitations of the 5.56 is true, although I disagree about the range & the specified target’s resistance to that round as my own testing has shown a direct correlation between make/model/year & its ability to withstand that cal’s penetrative ability. The older/bigger the car, the tougher it is due to thicker metal, & the less effective the 5.56 round is even if M855 is used. A well made dumpster’s a good bullet stopper too depending on the round & type of projectile, which makes your point about larger cal weapons.

    We’re sympatico, LTP, there’s no escaping it!


    Cassandra (of Troy)

  236. Well Mountain Rifleman….you’re a typical Internet blowhard. Mr. Mosby gave you a fair challenge and all you do is write more garbage. Grab your mangina and take Mosby up on his offer. Otherwise your continuing asinine remarks are irrelevant.

    “There Are Enemies Amongst Us”

  237. Thank you. I appreciate the time and effort you put into your reply.

  238. I live in North Houston (edge of Harris county) and am only starting to speed up my prepping- Having witnessed the largest evacuation in US history during Hurricane Rita, and the insanity of people pertaining to it- I am very concerned about which direction it can go here.

    Besides finding like minded people- stocking up< Is venturing further north the only option? Away from the City? Where do I even consider going? In my early 20s- my parents are old, and everyone is oblivious to the reality of our dire situation. Houston is very "Diverse" and certainly prone to the unrest described here by Mr. Matt.

    Very interested in your perspective-

  239. Your screen name says more than your comment.

  240. You should also add in Cooper’s “The Art of the Rifle” book. There are/were two editions – one larger coffee table sized in B&W, then a smaller version in color, which came second. I have both and IIRC there is a little extra content in the color one, so it’s likely the best of the two. For starting out with the proper principles and fundamentals for Rifle, it’s a very good source.

    Also in the Prescott area is Louis Awerbuck (Yavapai Firearms Academy). He used to work for Cooper at Gunsight and travels around the country. I’ve trained with Louis many times and highly recommend him. He is excellent with training women as well.

    BTW I too suffer from having an awesome wife who just does not get it. My preps and gun activity and such are just written off as me “going playing and shooting again” but at least they are tacitly tolerated. Sadly one day she’ll realize what I was planning and preparing for. The Remnant marches on…..

    Keep your powder dry.

  241. If it were me, I would not head toward Dallas. No different there than here. You need to find people that live at least an hour away from any major city. SA, Austin, or Dallas. Out in the country. West TX, countryside in LA. Anywhere but here, IMHO. You might just ask your parents what they would do if Houston blew up? Might pique their interest.

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  243. Dan, anyone with experience with machine lubricants knows Crisco is more like a heavy grease than an oil. If thrown cold into mud it will repel or block mud quite well. The first shot will throw off much of the mud. After a few shots it will start to melt if then it is thrown into the mud it will cool trapping mud,water, and such.
    This is why Mosby specified firing after applying Crisco. He is rigging the Challenge in his favor. (Deliberately or accidentally I do not know or care.)
    Mountain Rifleman claims to be a Korean war vet. I believe him to be honest.
    As a Korean war vet he would have been influenced by the lessons of the Battle of Chosin Reservoir. During the battle a cold front from Siberia descended over the Chosin Reservoir, and the temperature plunged to as low as −35 °F (−37 °C). (this kind of cold is not unheard of in North America). The lubrication in the guns gelled and rendered them useless in battle. Likewise, the springs on the firing pins would not strike hard enough to fire the round, or would jam. (source Wikipedia)

    Can you imagine an Lubricant dependent M16 in this environment?

    Lubricants were removed from the weapons by the operators. Which allowed more weapons to function. One method of freeing up the actions was to urinate on them, the ammonia in the urine would move much of the lubricant.
    Garand pattern weapons M1 M14/M1A, BM59 etc., AK pattern guns, FN 49, FN FAL, MAS 49 pattern rifles, and Swedish Ljungman Variant firearms can run with little or no lubricants. It is not a good idea but they can do it!
    Some .308 AR type rifles can do this as well. The secret is the larger surfaces of parts and more powerful springs.

    Given this historical context the M16/AR rifles are severely flawed. The golden rule in weapons lubricant is you can run a gun dirty and wet, but not dirty and dry. This rule is void in presence of sand!
    Those whom claim that the AR type guns were designed to run with large amounts of lubricant are Lying, Ignorant, or both!
    Excessive lubrication to keep a gun working is sometimes referred to as “greasing the problem or test” by gunsmiths.
    This often leads to problems I charge a fortune to fix.
    ARs are not the only guns that can be made to work with excessive lubrication

    AR 15 type rifles are light weight, flat shooting out to 300 meters, Low recoil guns that are kind of fun. Which is what I like about them.
    The design is also delicate which is what I dislike.
    Mr. Stoner is one of the greats of firearms design.
    The AR-10 on which the AR series of firearms which most people are familiar with was a innovative, reliable, and influential design.
    Then Colt screwed it up.

    Historically Yours,

    Superior nuisance, Happy D.

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  245. Forgive me if this has been said already, but here’s my take on this. Yes, in the beginning, I see flash mobs at intersections and in stores. Yes, home invasions. They will be somewhat disorganized and easily taken out by people who are training at this very moment for these scenarios.

    However, looking at past history, I believe the US federal government will engage these thugs and begin training them in guerrilla warfare. Of course, nobody will guess that the feds would do something like this unless they also observe US military and political activity in other countries.

    The feds will use these CIA, DHS, and NSA trained thugs to take out any citizens who have this silly idea that the US should adhere to that obsolete document called the constitution. Federal agents and their patsies in state and local law enforcement will disarm as many citizens as they can. Most citizens will surrender their guns without much of a fight.

    The remainder of citizens who resist will experience the federally armed and trained thugs. It won’t be pretty.

    After the thugs do their dirty work, federal military will come in and kill all the thugs.

    The US police state will be firmly established.

  246. eminencefrontman

    I used to live in northern ireland and have often thought what I saw there would be a harbinger of things to come in urban America. Examples include heavily gated police stations with tall observation towers and third floor chain link fencing against thrown bombs/molotovs. There will undoubtedly be police/paramilitary collusion as we saw with police members sympathetic to the reactionary violence of paramilitary groups of the same ethnic-religious groups. The collusion may even go as far as police intelligence being passed to groups capable of extrajudicial killings of individuals the police cannot stop due to a lack of evidence or that pesky due process. There are lots of lessons of simmering urban ethnic violence to be learned from Ulster

  247. chris curtis

    It is reasonable to expect cell phones and internet will be disabled.

  248. And greater chance of getting eaten.

  249. 75% mortality in 3 weeks if this goes down in the winter without electricity here in the land of deep snows and cold winds.

  250. Cassandra (of Troy)


    Thomas Sowell’s Black Rednecks and White Liberals gives quite a bit of background on that contention. A brilliant man, & more proof against the use of reflexive mass condemnation. Discrimination isn’t always a bad thing, & when used w/ care & after much unbiased reflection can be beneficial.

    But actually doing so in that way’s the hard part, isn’t it.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  251. Cassandra (of Troy)


    You’re most welcome, & it wasn’t a biggie, just like to help those who sincerely want to help themselves. It’s good for my karma too! Also, Awerbuck is right up there w/ Cooper & Ayoob in expertise & is well worth investigating.

    Good luck, & take care of yourself & the kinder.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  252. Cassandra (of Troy)


    “Nor do blacks have any living memory of what white citizens can do when pushed too far.”

    Way back in the Fred & Barney days that point was made by some of the more circumspect original Black Panthers to the newbies who were brimming w/ ‘black pride’, suffused w/ their belief in the ability of ‘black power’ to defeat the “honkies”, & as such were eager to ‘get down’. Some of those OPs had either been in the military or had relatives who were/had been & informed the feisty younguns that those same ‘sissyass crackas’ were also the people who not only invented machine guns, artillery, bombers, napalm, poison/nerve gas, germ/nuclear weapons but had used such on ‘their own kind’ as well as other people, had no serious problem w/ doing so again if necessary. For proof said OPs encouraged the proto-Shakas to remember what happened to the ‘Indians’, the Germans/Italians/Japanese during WW2, the North Koreans, & currently to the Vietnamese w/ the finale being that just because SOME white folks can be scared into submission/flight or taken out easily, it ain’t that way for ALL of them & if you p*** off enough of them you get wiped out.

    Some understood & began to reconsider the prospects for easy success against such an adversary but others, unfortunately, disbelieved the counsel of the elders, puffed up even more, & accused them of racial cowardice/treason, i.e., ‘Tommin/bein’ a good n***a’. Interesting how cycles repeat, isn’t it? One of the worst parts of the envisioned Collapse &/or Civil War will be the utter (& most likely fatal) shock of many on ALL sides when their beliefs (a.k.a. prejudices/conceits) collide w/ the hard realities of either situation.

    Death plays no favorites, & doesn’t give a damn about the ‘rightness’ of a cause, the level of devotion to same, or the character of the involved/uninvolved.

    (Cue Bobby McFerrin/Don’t Worry, Be Happy)

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  253. Cassandra (of Troy)


    “The “type” of people to be on guard for are UNPREPARED PEOPLE. Period.”

    Seems like you understood the main part of the message of the Twilight Zone episode titled The Shelter, the questions for you now are if you got the secondary message, if you’re prepared to carry out the actions required by comprehension of both parts, & can you/yours handle the mental consequences generated from said actions.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

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  256. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Ben S./8Sept12@06:06,

    “It has to be emphasized……Declaration of Independence.”

    If that’s what you really believe, then you consider the WW2 pilots that bombed/firebombed German cities to be = to the Nazis, & the WW2 pilots who bombed/firebombed/nuked Japanese cities w/ women & children in them to be = to the Imperial Japanese military?

    “I am convinced……People.”

    If you really believe that & aren’t just adopting a pose of moral superiority, then you’d rather die & at best have your loved ones join you or at worst become the playthings of monsters instead of accepting assistance from those who don’t hold to that ethical standard?

    The above questions only require a simple yes or no answer, Ben S., so be honest & respond in that manner.

    Thanx in advance.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

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  258. Not only does it work, but it is ubiquitous. What good would it be if everyone had different caliber weapons? The commonality of the .223/5.56 will make collaboration easier. That said, the WASR-type is still a beast in CQC situations.

  259. Matt, either you overlooked,or are naive about, one enormous and ugly detail,as to why the police won’t be able to stop the various MUY mobs:
    you’re forgetting the Non-White – especially,Black and Hispanic – members of Police forces,in every city, that are racist, are in secret, and anything-but-secret,alliances with all their various racist groups( NOI, La Raza,etc ), that will undoubtedly attack and kill as many White officers as they can when the shit explodes.

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  261. Problem is, the government can keep on printing money indefinitely, IMHO. Sure, this will cause inflation but this will be gradual and it won’t cause the system to crash as such. This ‘progression’ invalidates the scenario outlined in this post.

  262. I guess i missed the part about the white scumbags.Hungry people and non prepared people of any race well be the problem.I live in a small town and people coming off the freeway would be the problem at first.I advise people to get away from big citys,AKA the killing fields.
    Ive looked for easy to grow food,or weeds.The latest is purslane,also called miners lettuce.It is descibed as invasive like a weed that you cant get rid of.
    Sounds good as a lettuce, something to eat,chickens like it also.

  263. “You won’t see roving gangs of Amish or Jewish individuals. ”

    True. Unfortunately, no one has factored in the Muslim population of 2.1 million extremely motivated America-haters. I believe they need to be taken into account.

  264. i hope this all doesn’t happen i work for the red cross i asked what would they do tere response we have to remain neutral and impartial.

  265. Yes an investment in warm clothes and blankets,sleeping bags.Also one room in the warmest part of the house with a tent to sleep inside.Room within a room thing.Insulate the floor under the tent also.

  266. Paladin Press is just bringing out a book “Eating on The Run” that covers dozens of common ‘weeds’ found all over that will feed yoiu in just such a survival scenario.

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  268. The problem with most of the comments I read here is fairly simple: no evidence of real compassion. Yes, we have seeds, food, and necessary survival tools, for myself and my family. But we also are deliberately planning on helping others in the event of a sociological doomsday scenario.
    Who will you help? I’ve read put-downs of Muslims, Mormons, and others. But how many of you will, when the fit hits the shan, reach out to help others? I know I will. So will others I know in my area who are also prepared.
    I assure you, weapons are only a small piece of preparation: a VERY small piece. The biggest challenges will be nutrition and healthcare.

  269. Wow, where do you get this stuff from? I’m not SF, but I’m plenty familiar with the M16 and it doesn’t take multiple cleanings per day or excessive lubrication to run. Moreover, I’ve never met any SF, Ranger, Infantry, or other swinging dick in the army who cleans his rifle “several times” a day. M16s work well and they work dirty. I’m an engineer myself, and never had to take time away from my main job to make sure my weapon was ready to go. I’ve got total confidence in that weapon system.

  270. I’d add sanitation and hygiene to your list.

  271. The Old Testament is a tribal warfare manual. Replace every mentioning of “Jews/Israelites/Hebrews” with White American and you have one helluva war manifesto. Divide and conquer, enslavement, extermination, PSY-OPS, unit cohesiveness, etc. All there. Just ditch the funky diet laws and kooky sand-people morality.

  272. Twenty friends and relatives armed with ARs are a lot more handy than twenty guys who didn’t buy anything because an internet commando convinced them it was crap.

  273. I can’t believe I took the time to read this paranoid hate mongering tripe, It’s laughable. The Author/authors have way to much time on their hands, I use a quote from John Wayne that would fit them “Life is hard, it’s harder when you are stupid” RJ

  274. Tribal war will be a staple in any collapse scenario. Chechar is an intelligent man. Low trust societies necessitate strong clans. Clans will be based on race, ethnicity, and belief. Isolated social atoms and libertardians will be devoured by collectivists. Good riddance! White people must repair their families before it’s too late.

  275. “Sorry to piss in the collective cornflakes here, it is just hard to beleive that anyone actually thinks they could stop This Machine, we have let become what it is today. You are hopelessly outgunned and understaffed.”

    Sorry Jay, but you seem to forget that little debacle called Vietnam, where “the Machine” was worn down. You also forget about Afghanistan in the 80’s which took on the Soviet machine and wore them down, and Afghanistan today which is wearing down the US machine. It isn’t about numbers, it’s about time and the willingness you have to go for the long haul.

  276. Mr. Bakken obviously has zero experience in the restaurant industry. One of our local suburban restaurants actually pays farmers to pick up the uneaten and unsold food every night after closing. There is so much food that the trip is worthwhile for farmers. Another restaurant (in Minneapolis), for many years, had a long line of homeless people forming at 11 PM when the unsold food would be given out. If you look at all the restaurants in an urban area, and all the unsold food they throw away, you may not even need to irradiate the partially-eaten food to feed all the people whose welfare has run out. Bakken’s wild fantasies are based on the horrific scenarios that may result from urban hunger, but who said that we have ever had a food shortage since WW2?

  277. There’s so much truth here! Read it & weep.

  278. I think these tactics may be useful for defending yourself against an organized enemy. However, when you start talking about shooting into crowds you guys sound like our government! These are the types of tactics they may (and possibly have) used again American citizens.

    For me, I’m NOT falling for the BLACK versus WHITE elite propaganda BS! The elite tend to pick the “low hanging fruit” when trying to propagandize their agenda. “Mass rapes”, are you kidding me?

    What evidence to you have that “inner city” types are going to use these types of tactics? This propaganda is obviously a cheap attempt by the elite to get us to hate and ultimately kill each other. Inner city types (code word, black people) are people just like the rest of us.

    This is a very simple divide and conquer strategy which is one of many that the elite uses to control us. I’m not saying that any of us has to like anyone. I’m just saying that when the collapse happens (and it will happen) we should not prejudge the tactical circumstances.

    Candidly, the only thing the disorganized and misguided “inner city” youth have demonstrated is a propensity to kill each other and destroy their own communities. If the SHTF, “inner city” types will NOT (in my opinion) be the problem. They will kill each other before they make it out to me in the suburbs. The bigger problem for me will the my stuck up neighbors. For every “flash” mob the main stream media reports that occurs in a so called “good” area, there are scores of innocent “inner city” types who are harmed or even killed by these same clowns.

    Killing a person is a big f#^king deal and should never be considered anything better than the lesser of two or more evils.

    Be well, nyquil762

  279. Anders Hans Breivik is an example of what the next civil war in Europe will look like. I have every reason to believe that it is the way it will be here too when whites start reacting. Hopefully this won’t occur but we have already had a glimpse of the future and it ain’t pretty.

  280. Another unpleasant thought, the media will do its part to try to cover this up as much as possible. Paul Kersey at SBPDL wrote about how YouTube deleated the videos of the black flash riots in Atlanta when one of the counties had a technical problem with the EBT cards. The riots were immediate and almost spiraled out of control. The media’s inability to critically cover race will means there will be a news blackout for anything useful with the exception of the white response which will be covered 24/7.

  281. But dude! That rug really tied the room together, did it not!

  282. Travis Gilbert

    As many comes to me wanting to know how to build and store for this that is coming, I tell them be careful what you turn to for a way of life and survival.
    It sounds really good and most of all it sound correct but time will tell.
    As so many come and talk with me about building a co-op and asking what in the building of this kind of life style, what would I say is this: punishment of breaking the governing constitution of such a life style.
    That is what has destroyed the United States of America not keeping the constitution and not keeping the loop holes from invading our governing laws that protect us all.
    We could never tell how this could work until it happens, my guess is the younger are looking for a reason to blame others for their actions and the elders will be doing as much theft and corruption with their noses up the air acting as they are justified. And the family’s as usual will be burden with all if it. While the government robes the last of the country’s wealth.
    As for my self, I hope to be able if the Lords willing, to be able to take care of my family and help any one I can: I just want to be a light for others and serve my KING CHRIST JESUS

  283. Totally agree Cynthia. Unfortunately, I don’t think the nightmare ends Nov. 6, 2012 or Jan. 20, 2013. It will go on for some time to come.

  284. In a nutshell: there’s a flash mob raging; police SWAT and riot squad requires an hour to respond; SAVs will respond quickly and disperse the flash mob. Correct?

    Even if the non-SWAT, non-riot-squad police do not engage the flash mob, is it reasonable to assume they’ll stay parked at Krispy Kreme? Won’t they at least set up a perimeter around the intersection to keep people from entering? Wouldn’t such a perimeter prevent the SAVs from doing their thing? If the SAVs arrive before the perimeter is established, wouldn’t they likely be caught within once the perimeter has been established? Seems like the window of opportunity is mighty small.

  285. I don’t think a restaurant wasting food at that kind of rate would stay in business long. They should be buying less. Or, they are a figment of YOUR wild fantasies. And, you spelled the author’s name wrong, several times, apparently deliberately. I have concluded that Arne Boberg is a ‘liberal’ troll.

  286. You forgot one thing: The rioters and looters will have destroyed the restaurants and violated the employees.

  287. Yes, there is plenty of food in urban areas. Enough for about two days once looting, hoarding and panic sets in. Food for restaurants, grocery stores and convenience stores is delivered, most items are daily. Bracken’s scenario accounts for this when he discusses the inability of food and fuel deliveries to take place unescorted.

    We’ve all seen what happens in a natural disaster, even a relatively minor one, when there’s a run on food and supplies and deliveries are held up for days – bare shelves. I’ve seen grocery stores go empty and fast-food restaurants begin closing due to a simple blizzard.

    What Bracken is addressing here is the thin veneer of society that can quickly disintegrate under shock and stress, and the almost inevitable downward spiral that would take place. Arne, you are correct we have plenty of food, but only as long as the storage, transportation and distribution holds up. The part of Bracken’s argument you’re ignoring is that even if food kept being delivered and was protected against theft and looting, the majority of people in these areas could not afford it once their benefits were useless. Riots and famines very rarely happen due to a lack of food, but rather a lack of distribution and inept, corrupt and/or totalitarian government. Study Ethiopia, China, Ukraine, Haiti, etc.

  288. When did this site turn into a government run propaganda site. You guys are pushing the Elite agenda with this “race war” stuff. The only people the “inner city” types harm are themselves. Be well, nyquil762

  289. Why couldn’t Tom Sowell have been the first black president? (Rhetorical question!)

  290. “You won’t see roving gangs of … Jewish individuals.”

    Unless you happen to be on Wall Street!

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  292. I have been saying this exact thing for years. ANY disruption to our food or fuel supply wil cause a catch 22. Where no trucker dare deliver. Therefore riots will get out of hand in just a few days. Also, once blood is shed. it will be a race riot. No time to be PC. In 2004 huricaine Charlie went thru Daytona. Lots of wind knocking down trees and power lines. Anyone with common sense or logic knows you would have to first repair the main grid, then branch off into the neighborhoods. A black man in a Georgia power bucket truck was tring to repair a transformer in a black neighborhood on day 4 of no power. He was stoned by black people claiming he was an uncle Tom and fixed the white area first. He came down, got in his truck and left.What will these same people do with no food? I lived in a affluent Black neighborhood in Atlanta for 6 years.I was well liked. Not because I went out of my way to be nice to them. (token niggar) Their words, not mine. They liked because I didn’t. Over those 6 years I was informed by these college graduates to be protective of my family . one day if it explodes the N…… will riot beyond control. Hell they said because they are black and living in a up scale community they would be targetted first. Cause rednecks have guns.

  293. I’ve intuitively known this theory for some time. I’ve observed the coming trend that is now at hand: for the first time in the history of our republic, we now have one half of the population living in 50 major cities. As such, those citizens are used to ceding a certain portion of their liberties for living in those urban centers. When Uncle Sugar’s gravy train stops or a natural diaster occurs, the thin veneer of civilization peels away.
    As Jesus said, “a house divided against itself CANNOT stand.” We cannot go on this way indefinitely. Something will have to give. If you haven’t prepared yet, what are you waiting for? If you believe like me, let’s roll.

  294. I don’t think it’s racist nor advancing an “elitist propoganda” to draw conclusions from events taking place around us. Look at what happened in Chicago to an older white man when a flash mob attacked him for being in the wrong place at the wrong time last year.

  295. Q.”Wow, where do you get this stuff from?”
    A. Notice that part where I stated that until recently I was a Certified Colt AR15/M16 Armorer?
    Do you think I might have earned that certification for a reason?
    (Full Disclosure; I find that factory certifications are not that hard to earn. I have held as many as ten at a time, typically you have to renew them about every three to five years.)

    Your statement.”Moreover, I’ve never met any SF, Ranger, Infantry, or other swinging dick in the army who cleans his rifle “several times” a day.”

    Then you should ask some of them about it. I will admit it is a little hard to get where you can watch them train. Maybe you can make friends with someone who consults for them and they will tell you about observing this activity.
    Then there is this. “Even if the manual says that you should clean your weapon twice a day, clean it four times a day, clean it eight times a day because the one time you didn’t clean it may be the time it jams.”
    Generally attributed to Major General Roger Nadeau after a series of tests of lubricants.

    Your Statement. M16s work well and they work dirty.
    My Question. Then why do I have to fix them more than other military pattern guns?

    Your Statement. I’ve got total confidence in that weapon system.
    My Response. I know better.

    Technically Yours,

    Superior nuisance, Happy D.

  296. Cassandra (of Troy)


    Would that such could be, but TS/similar worthwhile people’re far too sensible to attain that/any other office. I happily supported Alan Keyes, but he went dinky dao & so my hopes for a cool, smart, reasonably ‘conservative’, & viable non-‘white’ contender for that office went byebye, & after all the anti-‘white’ animus that’s been revealed & aggravated by the ascension of Emperor Obama that particular desire’s quite likely been rendered a practical impossibility in perpetuity.

    That’s just one of many reasons for my alternating between nearly paralytic sorrow & the fury of a chigger & mange afflicted werewolf on dust in summertime central Luzianna. And as the prospect of the needless destruction of what was once a wonderful country grows ever more certain, that last part’s becoming dominant, & its howl’s the same one that erupted from Taylor’s agonized soul when he saw the ruined remnant of the Statue of Liberty sticking out of that beachfront hillside.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  297. When its too dangerous people won’t go to work, things would get real very quick. No fuel, no trucks on the roads bad news for big cities. I think big cities would self destruct almost immediately at the first sign of panic. I think it will depend on how things unfold just to many possiblities. The Gov can print money to no end and controls the media, so if riots break out no one will know for sure whats going on in the next town. If they can dampen the collapse they can maintain control. Blame the problem on Europe or terrorist, no one likes an outside enemy and that unites people, it will be a large scale psychological event to say the least.

  298. Garry F Owen, I respect all of our opinions and I’m not calling anyone racist. I am stating that we are putting ourselves at an extreme tactical and moral disadvantage to suggest that this is a “black and white” issue. Again, for every video the elite propagandize of a white man being beaten by a black youth, there are 100’s of videos of similar black youths beating black men and women.

    Inner city populations are NOT armed (unfortunately, thanks to the government) and experience a disproportionate share of violent crime. Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson work for the elite. Consequently, this is why they are for extreme levels of gun control and constantly preach the “black versus white” elite propaganda.

    Too many of us have bought into the “fear” the elite/government have been preaching. Either way, be well, nyquil762

  299. Great post! We shouldn’t underestimate the crazy response of TPTB, however. If it appears that they’ve lost all control, it might be perfect timing to start nuking cities to cover everything up and blame it on terrorists. I know that’s an extreme example, but my point is, we need to be creative in our thinking about how TPTB will exploit the situation- any situation.

  300. No, what American bomber pilots did during WWII was not morally equivalent to what the Germans did at Auschwitz, or to what the Japanese did at Nanking. This is not to say that what the Americans did was right, but rather that if what they did was right, there could still be other things that would always be wrong to do, no matter for what reason. In contrast, if the Nazis were right at Auschwitz, then there is no action, not even the purposeful killing of defenseless children, that cannot be justified in at least some cases. My point is that breaking into someone’s house in order to murder their harmless family is an EVIL-COMPLETE act; if “reprisal” can justify it, then reprisal can justify anything, and there is no longer any such thing as an inherently evil act.

    That is the crux of my point; the following is clarification. Yes, the crew of Enola Gay killed children at Hiroshima. Yes, they knew they would kill children at Hiroshima. But, I believe they did not PURPOSEFULLY kill children at Hiroshima. That is, I believe that if they could have had the bomb do to Hiroshima everything that it did do, EXCEPT kill children, then they would have. But they could not. An atomic bomb (or even a firebomb aimed with 1945 technology) is unavoidably indiscriminate. It would be different if instead Hiroshima was destroyed by a horde of G.I.s with samurai swords, since such a horde will kill exactly the individuals they choose to. If the Americans had killed the same people that way, then yes, they would have been morally equivalent to the Japanese at Nanking. As it was, they destroyed a military target by the most effective available means, and children were (tragically) collateral damage.

    Finally, as for “accepting assistance from those who don’t hold to that ethical standard”, I would not order my family to commit suicide if I learned that they had survived due to reprisal actions against the families of their enemies. However, if I were in a position to prevent such a reprisal, I would do so, even if that would make it much more likely that other people would choose to harm my loved ones. After all, I would rather that my loved ones do what is right, than cooperate in some utmost evil to save me!

  301. It’s going to get far uglier than anyone here is anticipating. Imagine you have leftist politicians who are ordering the arrest of militia/vigilante leaders. Who is going to protect those politicians? No, seriously, who? Remove all morality from the issue and imagine you have some guy with decent military training who decides, for whatever reason, to protect a leftist politician. Maybe it’s ideology. Maybe it’s money. Doesn’t matter.

    Let’s profile this guy. He’s almost certainly white. He probably has a wife and kids. So, how do you get back at him?

    You find his family. You abduct them and take them to a rural area. You crucify them, videotape it and broadcast it on the internet. Within two weeks, no one with serious military training will even be taking calls to protect a leftist politician, and then you can take leftist status-whoring and use it as a tool against the leftist.

    Let the orcs know what the collapse of civilization really entails for them.

    Yes, I’m talking about crucifying a five year-old. No, I’m not kidding. Anyone who quibbles with me should consider the fall of Carthage. The Roman army threw the newborn infants and toddlers of the Carthaginians off a tall cliff, one by one, and made the parents of those children watch.

    Hell, by that standard, I’m Mother Teresa.

    What is victory? To enslave them, to break their sh*t and to torture their children to death in front of them.

  302. Will you write a “Part 2” ?

  303. “…My feeling is that most people here are probably in the know about some of the more recent not-so-covert actions of the US Government. 500 million rounds of .40 Hornady FTX. Social Security just purchased several hundred thousand rounds, as did the FDA, the National Weather Service, and a few others. You think those bullets are for grandma and rainclouds?…”

    They didn’t buy that ammo to shoot us with (at least not at first). They bought it so that we couldn’t. If it’s sitting in a government warehouse, it’s not sitting on the gun stores’ shelves.

    The only ones who will be hurt by that are the ones that are coming late to the game. I’d guess that most of us who read these kinds of blogs already have a pile stored away, or a reloading press that gets a regular workout.

  304. One thing I haven’t seen addressed here: What do you do with the bodies? I sure don’t want a 200 lump of rotting meat in my front yard after I’ve successfully repelled boarders.

  305. That should be “200 pound…”

  306. Darn oughtsix – you just gave out one of our SOP’s there! 😉

  307. Or, sincerely wrong. His left-leaning tendency may actually be what passes for reasonable conservatism in MN. They haven’t been overwhelmed with Mexican Illegal aliens for decades, Islam is not yet at the critical mass of 5% of the population and there are stunningly beautiful American-born girls who look like they are right off a modeling runway in Oslo. It’s easy to be a “liberal” in MN.

    How do I know? Lots of family back there after the brightest and hardest-working ones continued to Astoria Oregon.


  308. Oh no! Mac vs. PC, AR vs. M-14.
    Stop it now, before the little man with the toothbrush mustache is invoked.
    List Mom!

  309. The official forces of WaDC don’t have a chance, just as the mighty British Empire, Soviet Red Army, and the United States Military CAN NOT WIN in Afghanistan against an army of invisible unpaid self-supplying volunteers.

    We own our government, they don’t own us.

    Some of us will die, for sure. They will be remembered and statues cast.

    How does an army of 1 million go against an entrenched force of 100M on the home ground of the professional army? There will be a little bit of shooting, then concession and local elections.

    Its gonna get hungry in WaDC.


  310. If you fill a car with rocks and soil, it is cover. Empty car, not so much, even at 400M.

  311. This potential scenario, is a realistic description, if things fall apart as far as subsidy dependant persons turn on the businesses first and then persons commuting in traffic. Since 9-11, I have thought the further away you can live from a metroplex area the better. I think a well armed USA civilian population is probably well understated. I think that our miltary members cooperation may end up in different factions , with different objectives and say F you, my family comes first.The Police will just quit showing up for duty. I pray this scenario comes to be but nothing surprises me any longer. Over the last 11 years, I have slowly built myself an arsenal of specific function weapons, with enough ammo that each weapons has 2K rounds each. Now it’s time for basic hand tools(axes, shovels, rakes and pitch forks for tilling soil to prep to grow basic foods and cutting fire wood, for gardening and equipment for fishing. Need also stockpile of batteries, a generator and acouple of hand cranked radios and a couples sets of walkie talkies. A group of trusted friends that could purchase mobile homes and arrange them in a defensive manner, sure would make surviving somewhat easier. Most just believe, if I don’t think about it, it won’t happen. If you live in a metroplex, you may find yourself trapped with no way out.

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  314. twatterwatter

    You obviously have zero experience in the restaurant industry. I spent years as a cook and any left over food was thrown away and wasted. Of course we watched portions and product to keep waste to a minimum. I’m not saying throwing the food out is right (in fact I was very vocal with my objections to the practice) but that is how the business goes. I’ve worked in multiple restaurants and that was the norm.

  315. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Ben S./11Sept12@11:18,

    Your attempt to divert attention from the fact that your first & current positions contradict each other is a weak one at best, & your use of reductio ad absurdum examples confirms that observation. After that, you continue to try to conceal that blatant contradiction w/ a severe distortion of history regarding the policy of the WW2 Allied forces toward the Nazi/Fascist Italian/Imperial Japanese Axis. Given the previous, it’s obvious that you know you’re in trouble & the question now is about your motive for continuation. A reasonable conclusion about such behavior would be that you’re too egotistical to admit that in a fit of reflexive emotionalism you ignorantly ran your mouth, & that assessment’s further validated by the nakedly convoluted pseudo-logic of your subsequent comment.

    In sum, Ben S., it’s not working & to avoid appearing even more ridiculous you really should cease your fruitlessly stubborn excavation.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  316. Cassandra (of Troy)


    Given the multifaceted nature of what may be a massive eruption of unrestrained ebullience in the U.S., it may well turn out that afterward the world will look fondly upon the Erinese, Serbian, Rwandan, Islamic, & Judeo-Arabian conflicts for their intellectual simplicity & civilized demeanor. And the infuriatingly saddening part is that none of what may occur here has to.

    Perhaps U.S.A.F. LtCol Tanner has the best explanation: “Maybe somebody forgot what it was like”.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  317. Cassandra (of Troy)

    chris curtis/9Sept12@00:07,

    It’s already been arranged.:

    Twitter to censor some tweets

    DHS emergency power extended, including control of private telecom systems

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  318. Cassandra (of Troy)


    Good point, & likely arm them as well. Wild times ahead.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  319. Cassandra (of Troy)


    Have you perhaps read One Second After by William R. Fortschen?

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  320. It is more likely your “Twenty friends and relatives” will have SKSs and hunting rifles.
    Because that is what they could afford or already own.

    Realistically Yours,

    Superior nuisance, Happy D.

  321. Cassandra (of Troy)

    ted ross/9Sept12@22:25,

    Don’t count on that position to stand given who holds their leash & who’ll protect them from the passing scene.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  322. The early accelerantis the availability of texting services via cell phones. Wouldn’t the authorities just kill cell phone and satellite access? I don’t dispute that some other non-disruptable means of immediate digital contact might be used.

  323. The early accelerant would be the availability of texting services via cell phones. Wouldn’t the authorities just kill cell phone and satellite access? I don’t dispute that some other non-disruptable means of immediate digital contact might be used.

  324. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Frank Gough/10Sept12@00:45,

    The self-righteously assumptive & decidedly derogatory tone of your comment causes me to wonder if you’re a regular visitor to this site or are just another drive-by pseudo-moralist who, after ‘enlightening’ the local ‘savages’, passes on. Are you perhaps acquainted w/ Ben S.? If not, you really should be as you both seem to share the same low opinion of those here (& most likely everywhere else) who have the temerity to see things differently than you do, draw their own conclusions heedless of your counsel, & then act on same regardless of how the ethically ‘superior’ feel about it.

    An interesting aspect of the quasi-religious philosophy of unconditional bonhomie you/Ben S./similar affect is the seemingly limitless ability to provide for all & w/ little serious worry that you’ll be deemed an irresistibly delicious target by the less upright, some of whom might be among those given succor. I’m reasonably certain that I’m not the only one who envies the twin boons of an Aether powered Starfleet replicator & unfailingly reliable telepathy that proponents of such a worldview apparently possess.

    While it’s truly disappointing that such gifts are reserved only for those of irreproachable virtue, the possibility of attaining that vaunted status (& its concomitant goodies) gives ‘lesser’ beings cause for hope.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  325. Cassandra (of Troy)


    Robert Heiney has some points that complement the post of mine you asked me to expand. Perhaps a combo critique?

    Cassandra (of Troy)

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  327. Check out the new Form 4473 required to purchase a firearm. New question. Are you or are you not a “hispanic”. New forms required for past 3 months.

  328. If it is just you and you have your family & preps stashed away from harm and you just need to get to them, consider stashing an ultra light at a nearby storage unit that has enough open space to get it off the ground.


  329. How do we know who can be trusted? My stocks are kept secret, I do display range targets in my home and business, but question if even that is a good idea. Most of this group would be trust worthy, but it would take one mole to really mess things up.

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  331. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Happy D/11Sept12@03:57,

    And the 2 piece receiver doesn’t give me all that much confidence in its reliability, neither does the placement of the recoil assembly. However, I’m a devotee of the FAL which also has a 2 piece receiver & the AK which kindasorta does too. Schizophrenia? And if you don’t mind, as a smith, what’s your opinion of the Benelli M2/M4? From what I’ve been hearing both are very good & have few major problems other than price. Also, the Kahr K40 vs Sig P226/.40S&W vs S&W 4046.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  332. Cassandra (of Troy)


    And then there’s the ‘neo-Simba’ & ‘Sistuh w/ a yen for vanilla’ factors that complicate Henry’s ‘I ain’t no crakuh, dawg, I’m down witit, yo’ scenario. As both are cause for energetic vituperation now when things are relatively cool, it’ll be interesting to see how long that MLKesque ‘kumbaya’ lasts when the friskiness gets multi-cultural.

    “yo, Yo, YO, NO!”.

    (cue Isn’t It A Pity)

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  333. Cassandra (of Troy)


    Are you perchance a proponent of/adherent to the ‘one drop rule’ & if so, how praytell will you/similar be able to determine who meets your/similar’s requirements for ethnic acceptability given 100+ years of interbreeding? Unless you/similar have geneticists among your/similar’s ranks & the pertinent equipt, you/similar are going to have some major problems if appearence is the primary criteria for who to recruit & who to shoot & I’m a prime example of that conundrum as a member of the I.E. discovered much to his consternation.

    And I’m not the only one.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

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  335. Where do I distort or contradict? You do not specify, but rather insult. Where I reason subtly, my reasoning is dismissed without explanation as “nakedly convoluted pseudo-logic”. Where I reason baldly, I am denounced for using reducto ad absurdum. I am damned if I do and damned if I don’t. If you want to argue that sometimes it is fine to murder children, the least you can do is be civil about it.

  336. When I graduated high school, you went to university, you went to Canada, you went to jail, or you went to NAM. That’s one hell of a lot of trained people in one generation. It went on for 13 years. Most of us are now pushing geezer. At this point in life it’s always a good day to die. Especially if it’s for the freedom of your family. Don’t fuck with the truck unless you can shift the gears. Bring it.


  337. I am very sorry to say I can not give you a complete answer.
    I have the Benelli certification and have worked on several M2s and Benelli clones mostly cleanings and installing tactical whatever of the day. All have worked well.
    No Benelli M4 has graced my work bench so I can not give an informed opinion. I hear good things from friends in the right places but that is all.

    Sig P226, I have cleaned a few haven’t had to fix one yet. So they seem mechanically sound. The number of parts concerns me however.

    S&W 4046, I have had a few come through the shop, used in need of a full technical cleaning. The fact that they were firing in that condition is promising. The number of parts concerns me here to.

    Using the Glock and 1911 as benchmarks both the S&W and Sig have more parts. A result of the double action functions in both. More parts usually means more potential for problems.
    As a general rule you want a consistent trigger, double action only or single action only. Switching back and forth sets up accuracy problems and some say safety issues.
    Which would favor the double action only S&W.

    I have never handled the Kahr and so I honestly can not give an informed opinion on it at this time.

    The primary decision must be based on what is most comfortable for you.

    Hopefully Helpfully Yours,

    Superior nuisance, Happy D.

    P.S. I like the FAL too, The fact that it has a similar number of parts as an AR but none of the bad reputation makes for an interesting case study.

  338. I defer to your superior experience of stupidity caused hard living conditions.

    Condolence-fully Yours,

    Superior nuisance, Happy D.

  339. To my way of thinking, after reading almost 100 of the insightful comments, is the firepower question is irrelevant. Controlling the armories is what’s important. As I see this unfolding, the elites will use the NatG to preserve what they’ve created. One main battle tank is enough, even several Bradleys, to quell any resistance to the new order. They would arm those roving bands of MUYs to get’r done – privateering right here at home.

    Disarming them?

  340. Milo Mindbender

    Let’s be nice, my tribe has chosen the SKS just for that reason. It is better vor all of us to own 10 rd rifles and become competent with stripper clip reloading than to split 3 AK’s,, or 2 AR’s 6 ways. When these SKS’s were bought I never paid more than 200$ for any of them, and now the price is stupid high. No there is no really good way to mount glass on an SKS, but it is a brick reliable platform, and has a respectable following. Ammo is fairly common, and balistically similar to the 30-30WCF, making it usable at hunting type distances.

  341. 1. “[quote] The above passage could be construed to suggest that retaliation against the wives and children of one’s enemies is a legitimate military tactic. It has to be emphasized that when a cause resorts to such a tactic, it has lowered itself to the moral level of Al Qaeda, the Third Reich, or the “merciless Indian savages” of the Declaration of Independence. I am convinced that such a price is too high to pay, even for the preservation of one’s People. [/quote]”

    Children? No. But adult relatives who provide logistic support (Food and Shelter) to the enemies of your family, enemies who have proven themselves quite willing to burn women and children alive (Waco); fair game! The adult spouses who feed the JBTs up, give them give them rest and succor, and then send them back out to terrorize and murder me and mine; you bet your sweet ass they are legitimate targets. They are bringing war to my home; I will do the same for them. Maybe they won’t be so eager to kick down my door and be more apt to stay home and look after the family. I doubt many spouses would have to be killed before the thugs have an epiphany.

    War is hell. War on your home soil is ten times hell!


  342. That Sir is protean! If you cannot eat it before it spoils dry it for jerky!

    Eating at least one tree hugger is on my bucket list.

    For those with weak stomachs dumping them in septic tanks is an option.


  343. Hi Chuck,
    Obama has also been selected by the CFR. It’s kinda like “good cop, bad cop”. Old Baron Von Rothschild long ago said it didn’t matter who governs, so long as you control the money… Only answer is to store wealth in items that have value and preferably a long shelf life…

  344. Never been in the military, but an old colonel I know tells me that a huge number of human beings has been dispatched with the good ol’ .22lr, and I have heard the same regarding deer and elk from many a grizzled old backwoods redneck, nicely illustrating Front Sight’s motto: “Any gun will do if you will do.” This said, “a man’s got to know his limitations.” So, learn to use your tools of choice, as well as their strengths and limitations, *before* it’s hammer time. Be safe out there…

  345. Gerhard, I hope for your and your loved ones’ sake that you live outside the USA. If things get nasty, some folks might not think you’re helping. Hopefully, this discussion is just an exercise, but who really knows? Btw, the temporary Federal injunction against section 1021 of the NDAA was just made permanent. So, for the moment, habeus corpus and the first amendment are still on life support, no doubt much to your chagrin…

  346. Terry, you got it. As an old lady once told me,”If you’re not living on the edge, you’re taking up too much room!” Long live the Frontier, wherever we find it…

  347. Said that all along…

  348. Mike,
    Spoken like a true prepper! Should it really come to this, be certain to cook thoroughly- any lingering bugs will readily capitalize on poor lab technique…

  349. STEVE, This was in a pocketbook that I read at that time but have been unable to locate since then. can you assist me ?

  350. I was being satirical guys.

  351. ” Gerhard, I hope for your and your loved ones’ sake that you live outside the USA. If things get nasty, some folks might not think you’re helping. Hopefully, this discussion is just an exercise, but who really knows? Btw, the temporary Federal injunction against section 1021 of the NDAA was just made permanent. So, for […]

    I was being satirical guys.”

    Oops! Ya got me!

  352. There is a difference between racism and the acknowledgement of reality. If a prudent individual finds themselves in a dark alley with an angry white mob coming at them from one direction and an angry black mob from the other, which way should that person run? Simple, look down to the end of your arm and see what color your hand is; then go that way! You fight for and seek the protection of your own kind; it has served the human race well for half a million years!


  353. being white is all right.

  354. one time an idiot took my SPringfield MiA and stuck the barrel into some mud then fired it. after I finished beating him, I checked out my weapon. then fired some more rounds thru it. it was AOK. I mistrust the Ar-15 family. even tho the .308 now hurt my arthritic shoulder a lot. I still trust that round. whatever.

  355. then they would have to be killed as well, I imagine

  356. Being white is all right and it should have always been and always be alright. The problem I see is that we are falling into the government’s “divide and conquer” strategy via propaganda distributed through the main stream media. Be well, nyquil762

  357. sootsme, this is the best advice I’ve read all day! Be well, nyquil762

  358. Thanks Frank for your comments. Whatever happened to “hope for the best and prepare for the worst”? In order for us to make it as a country we will need to help each other as best we can. After the SHTF the one unified group that won’t be squabbling like we are in this thread is the GOVERNMENT!

    I feel like I’m watching that prison show that used to run on HBO called “OZ” when I read these hate inspired comments. I get the feeling that many who have commented want our society to divide along religious and or ethnic lines. Wake up ladies and gentlemen. The government wants to separate us in order to conquer us.

    I have preps for my family (never enough). However, I am prepared to share whatever I have because I have compassion and respect for human beings. I don’t care where you are from, what religion you are (or aren’t), how tall you are or how short you are. I plan on treating people with respect even if I have to defend my family against those same people.

    Either way, be well! nyquil762

  359. Come on Cassandra (of Troy). The guy says he wants to help people and your spend time berating him? Give me a break. Perhaps we mere mortals are not as tough as you hard as nails “Clint Eastwood” types. You know what I’m talking about right? You fearless warriors who are prepared to make the “tough” decisions when we mere mortals will be afraid to “pull the trigger” even as the blacks/Hispanics/losers/undesirables burn our homes down and steal our rice.

    Perhaps the difference between me and people like the great Cassandra of Troy is that I believe that talking about killing another human being is kind of a big deal and actually killing a human being is kind of a big deal. You guys should read your comments. You and yours sound like you can’t wait until the end just so you can have the pleasure of taking down your version of a “bad guy” at 300 meters.

    While I may not like your attitude, I do wish you and yours the very best. Be well, nyquil762

  360. Matt – You know about this blog?

  361. Reblogged this on James Prime and commented:
    A very realistic and sobering scenario!

  362. Two things make no sense in this story –
    1) Cutting cell service would immediately end probably 75% of all this ‘flash mob’ gibberish and shutting off the cable internet would shut down the rest.

    2) You under estimate the power of fire. I have a feeling the inner city morons would jst start burning everything, starting with all the businesses in their area, then start moving toward the suburbs. Houses, hills, forests, I bet those morons would burn everything.

  363. Thank you. “Run what ya brung, don’tcha know…

  364. Really?? I have a 6.8mm built on an AR platform and I regularly put 10 rounds inside a 2″ target at 200 yards. I can easily out shoot an AK and some bolt guns.

  365. Oh by the way JMB why did you not tell us what kind of engineer you are? Most of the U.S. Army engineering designations are not exactly front line combat positions.

    Inquisitively Yours,

    Superior nuisance, Happy D.

  366. @Asher:

    You are one sick bastard. You and the guy who wants to eat the dead looters on his front yard should get a room.

    You’ve rationalized away the last vestiges of your humanity.

    Try using the Bible as a blue print instead of the collected musings of Caligula, Attila, and Himmler.

    There are plenty of ways to send a message that don’t involve flaying children.

    Thanks for reminding me that there are monsters on both sides and that no matter which side one chooses, one should always watch ones back.

  367. Chuck, thanks for your comment. I read his statement and thought it was just me or something. Be well, nyquil762

  368. I protest! I never said anything about harming children in any way. I just can’t see letting good protein go to waste. If you want to investigate unrestricted warfare read the Old Testament. Joshua and Judges would be good books to start with.


  369. His point was that there are already millions of AR type rifles in civilian hands and today it is the most popular rifle sold. Regardless of your favorite rifle, if this kicks off you will use what you have, too late to get something else, and for most prepared Americans that will be their AR-15.

  370. I have seen people reload and fire SKS rifles faster than the AK so with practice you are not outclassed.
    As for Scoping the SKS have faith I know some one trying right now to find a better solution to the SKS sighting problems.

    Optimistically Yours,

    Superior nuisance, Happy D.

  371. Wow! What a great read. I sure hope that never happens in Pittsburgh.

  372. The EBT cards “won’t ever read zero”? Do the words “government shutdown” ring any bells? I wouldn’t put it past the present administration to pull this as a deliberate tactic should Congress stand up to them in any meaningful way.

  373. Cassandra (of Troy)


    “The guy says he wants to help people and your spend time berating him?”

    You omitted quite a lot then make accusations based those omissions. Not nice.

    “Perhaps we mere mortals……our rice.”

    If that’s your/similar’s situation, then you/they should seriously reassess your/their security & logistical plans instead of attempting to assuage your/their apparent envy of those who’ve already done so.

    “Perhaps the difference……a big deal.”

    Interesting how you assume that you/similar ‘compassionate, sensitive’ souls are the only ones who believe that. More proof of your/their narcissistic tendencies. As such discussions clearly disturb you/similar so greatly, it’s reasonable to assume that you/similar detest LE/the military as such discussions are regularly engaged in by same & that the content of exclamations commonly made at sporting events like football & baseball leave you/similar aghast at their ‘bloodthirsty’ nature.

    “You guys should read your comments.”

    And there’s another bit of confirmational data for the above assessment. Why do you assume that those who wrote them didn’t think about the content prior to publication?

    “You and yours……300 meters.”

    Do you/similar realise how closely statements like that resemble the utterances of not only the anti-2A/pro-thug/pro-dictatorship cult but also that of their anti-hunting/’anti-war’/’pro-environment’ counterparts? In the first/second/third cases it’s almost verbatim & in the 4th nearly 90%. That’s known as a ‘tell’ by poker players, shrinks, lawyers, politicians, LE, the military, teachers, parents, & spouses, & is generally not a positive. You/similar should watch that kind of thing as it tends to undermine whatever point you/similar are trying to make.

    “While I may not……nyquil762”

    And there’s the disingenuous finale which is also addtl confirmation for the above hypothesis. Thanks!

    “The great”
    Cassandra (of Troy)

  374. Cassandra (of Troy)


    While I agree w/ the first part of your comment, your reliance on the ‘left/right’ model (w/ primary emphasis on the left side of the equation) is, imo, faulty as it diminishes the level of desire for power on the right. BOTH sides want to rule as opposed to govern, & thereby will use whatever means at their disposal to achieve dominance thus why I use the term Imperium/its derivatives for descriptors as it/they most accurately reflect not only the mentality of both but also the motivation behind the tactics both use to achieve that goal. Such as nyquil762/similar to an extent are, imo, correct in their contention that it’s not so much a politico-‘racial’ thing (although that’s certainly a major aspect) but one of ‘owah bettahs’ vs ‘the peasantry’ that’s driving what may become the North American Dissolution Games(tm). As The Who so cogently put it,: “Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss”, which is just another way of stating the old observation “The Man is The Man”, so don’t get hung up by semantic distractions which when examined are simply distinctions w/o difference.

    The acts described in the second part of your comment are manifestly counterproductive as they’d be perfect propaganda for the Imperium to use against the FreeFor. Just imagine how the populace would react to the crucifixion of women/children not just viscerally, but RELIGIOUSLY as well. “The fanatics who committed this unspeakable act of inhuman barbarism are no better than American Al Qaeda”, the Imperium will say in a tone of barely restrained (but respectfully somber) pseudo-moral outrage, “& ALL decent, patriotic Uhmurrakunz will rise up as one & declare that the monsters who did this & their twisted ’cause’ is AGAINST what Uhmurrakuh stands for & that the Uhmurrakun people will support ANY MEANS NECESSARY to rid owah great nation of this scourge”.

    And that’ll work, BIG TIME, just like it did w/ OKC & 9/11, & the audiences of MSNBC & Fox (the ‘Fox Nation’ in particular) will look at it as an opportunity to ‘put our minor differences aside & join together in the fight against intolerance & extremism’. Kumbaya writ large, w/ the attendant flag draped/waving “rallies for Uhmurrakuh”, fevered mass chants of ‘USA!, USA!, USA!, USA!”, & Lee Greenwood’s “God Bless the U.S.A./similar (& maybe even some black performed gospel) for theme music. Makes ye jus’ wanna burst w/ pride for yer cuntreh & get busy findin’ them (most likely Commanis Muzlum) Uhmurrakuh hatin’ evuldoowurz an bringin’ ’em ta Justuss w/ a ROPE, By God!, don’t it?

    See what I mean, Asher, it might be emotionally satisfying to do what you wrote, but the result would be suicidally annihilationist in effect & I’m reasonably sure you don’t want that, do you? Such tactics may be ‘educationally’ appropriate against marauders in a post-Collapse scenario, but in an anti-Imperium revolt/CW3 situation it’d make things worse than necessary. And as far as the definition of victory in the summation of your comment is concerned, I vehemently oppose the first part. My ancestors have been both slaver & slave (w/ the latter condition being by far the most common one) & as such, my position on the subject is one of merciless & unremitting hatred toward those who desire its perpetuation, & the things I’d do to its practioners would horrify even Mengele & the Unit 731 crew. And no, I’m not kidding.

    The second part’s c’est la guerre, but should be kept to a minimum as their gear’s useful to ‘our side’ as per Ben Franklin’s “Waste Not, Want Not” Biblically inspired aphorism. The third part’s one I’d reserve only for the most extreme circumstances of redress of perfidy, & even then the recipients would have to be unabashedly self-condemnatory. Indiscriminate & wanton use of that/similar methods will eventually result in their user being rendered a pariah in even the hardest of societies & subsequently said user will either be outcast or killed. Few liked the Inquisitors/their later counterparts, & for proof recall the lack of popularity of executioners whether they be of animals or humans.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  375. There is an OLD SAYING.


    Mafia comes into the store to deal.

    Please sir step into the back. and check out the sewer for Me.
    Pay them
    Pack up and move.
    Which choice should men not males take?

    The Men who fought the Indians went one or two better than the Brits or Indians that is why we won.
    This time we go the whole 9 Yards.

    We annihilate them before they do the same to us.

    Who ME You must have mistaken me for someone else.

    KNIGHTS are needed Men who answer to GOD ALONE,

    We can act evil and do Evil as long as we neither Desire it or Like it.


    No WItnesses. None on the Physical Plane.

    ONLY GOD , Spirits , Ghosts and Angels.

    AND us MEN>

    WHO me NOT I sire

  376. Whitt Tarlton

    My initial thought is that if you don’t believe the federal government can shut down those cellular networks (and yes also the Internet) pretty quickly, then you are kidding yourself.

  377. Just remember there are unintended consequences to that as well.

  378. When the controllers of the Politicians and the Bankers, call them The Elite or the Illuminati or whatever name you wish, decide the time is right to reduce the population, they won’t consider using their own assets to achieve that end , they’ll use the populace as detailed in this very accurate essay. After the International Economic Riots, and with the assistance of BigAg after they have exterminated the pollinators, bees and suchlike, there will be such a competition for food resources,worldwide the tribes that remain after the Major Depopulation Event will be begging anybody to take charge,mind you at this stage 90% of the population will have perished.

    “Those that control the oil, control nations, Those that control food, control the people

  379. Those that beat their guns into ploughshares, will plough for those that didn’t”.

  380. And those that Have the Will to use whatever tools available will win whether they survive or Not.

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  382. I think that the author is wrong about how long it will take American’s to clean things up. Once the low breed rioters start shedding our blood, they will quickly find out who the crack shots are! American’s will very quickly respond too, and i can’t imagine it taking very long, probably months, not years, decades or centuries! We will have to change things, form a new constitution, and a new kind of democracy where only people who pay taxes get to vote. We can change things now if we all stop supporting what has become an immoral government and country.

  383. bloodyspartan

    And I think it will take longer than you think . We have no Idea how much crap is in the Gene Pool.
    What other nations will do.,, How much resources will be looted or Burnt and so forth.

    Does not matter till the Biologicals or Nuclear let alone The Lord GOD are let loose.

  384. bloodyspartan

    New Kind of Republic. Democracy rhymes with Anarchy!

  385. The Old Testament is a tribal warfare manual….Divide and conquer, enslavement, extermination, PSY-OPS, unit cohesiveness, etc. All there.

    Shhhh… don’t tell the liberals! They’ll try to ban it. Oh, wait…

    Just ditch the funky diet laws and kooky sand-people morality.

    If you are forced to live a primitive existence, the food and cleanliness laws are probably a good idea. Granted it’s better to eat pork than starve, but if you have a choice, and you don’t have modern cooking capabilities, prefer kosher critters if you have the choice.

    As for the sand people morality — that’s designed to keep the birthrate as high as possible. Since you seem to be concerned about the future of whites (as am I; nothing against other races but I don’t want to see the downfall of my own), kindly take note of the fact that the number one problem facing white people, globally, is low birthrate, due entirely to poor lifestyle choices. Gimme that old time sandpeople morality any time.

  386. Re: the suburban response. It’s not just a lack of effective police response. Although any good LEO is there because he wants to protect you, having gone through a few earthquakes and riots, I can predict with nearly 100% certainty – I think it’s Mayor/Police Superintendent SOP. The first thing that happens is they get on the TV and state (lawsuit CYA) and repeat that it is NOT the duty of Law Enforcement to protect individuals. Sad.

  387. Well maybe we can find someone with infinite time to kill to replace every mention of “Israel, Hebrews, Judah” with “White” and we’re good to go. Or something like that. Some sand-people values are great like you mentioned, But the whole legalese, anti-nature, anti-transcendant attitudes of the Jews and Muslims need to go.

  388. As I prepare to leave this comment page for the last time I feel I must leave this JMB “Drive By” commenter a gift and for posterity.
    From John Mosby’s old blog
    ‘In classes people are still amazed at how much lube I use on my weapon. When a student’s rifle starts shitting the bed, I add lube…lots of lube. 99% of the time, it fixes the problem.” (Classic greasing the problem or on this case the design flaw.)
    So JMB even the great Mosey admits he drenches his AR to keep it working. But you don’t, Why don’t the rules of nature apply to you?

    As a funny aside even the Mle 1918 Chauchat, in US .30-06 caliber, a weapon that can be relied on to fail becomes remarkably reliable when drenched with lubricant. Barring cold snaps or the supply lines being cut all is good.

    Obsessively Yours,

    Superior nuisance, Happy D.

  389. Nicely, if Bibi would consent to serve as caddy, Obama might have the opportunity to exchange a couple of phrases with him between putts.

  390. Tankerman is spot on. Shut down cell service and that’ll be the end of these *crazy* flash mobs. As to shutting down the cable, that’d be more extreme, but certainly plausible.

    What’s NOT plausible is shutting down all the frequencies available to a Ham Radio operator. I do NOT understand why so few people are in Ham Radio. When the stuff hits the fan, NOTHING is more important or valuable that reliable communication.


    The average American has become way too reliant on their cell phones. If we had a real emergency, getting a message through to a loved one via cell would be very, very difficult.

  391. van Rooinek

    Hi Snake

    replace every mention of “Israel, Hebrews, Judah” with “White” and we’re good to go.

    A lot of ink and bandwith has been wasted in a false quest to convince the world that Whites are the true Israelites. History and genetics are against them. However, the success of White culture largely derives from the Biblical influence, so the equation of White with Israelite is an understandable mistake.

    Some sand-people values are great like you mentioned

    Two words: Mormon Fertility. There are only 2 places on earth where Whites are at or above replacement level fertility…. Faroe Islands, and… UTAH. (FWIW, I think Mormon theology is whacked.. but they defintely get the biblical lifestyle right. They may be the only whites who survive.)

    the whole legalese, anti-nature, anti-transcendant attitudes of the Jews and Muslims need to go.

    Jesus Christ (Himself a Jew) dealt with that quite effectively. The Jews refused to accept him, and the Muslims deny the significance of his message. It’s all in the New Testament – the Jewish leaders got upset because Jesus did a miraculaous healing on the sabbath… they missed the whole point of their faith!

    Likewise the barbaric Muslims to this day, will commit honor killings against rape victims (not perps.. victims!!!) because her “loss of virignity” shames her family — whereas veen the Old Testament is humane enough to say, of the truly innocent rape victim: “Unto the woman thou shalt do nothing” (Deut. 22:26-27).

    And back to this —

    The Old Testament is a tribal warfare manual…., PSY-OPS, unit cohesiveness, etc. All there. Divide and conquer, enslavement, extermination

    This quote of yours was kicking around in my head for a while, and then it caused me to remember this..

    “…I am very concerned about the cultural future of the United States in this kind of environment. Most people who are secular humanists having the idea that they are doing fine. We are doing fine and our only enemy is the Bible-based far right. The reason why the real threat is the far right is that they have the Bible. And the Bible is a masterpiece. The Bible is one of the greatest works produced in the world. The people who all they have is the Bible actually are set up for life. Not only do they have a spiritual vision given to them but artistic fulfillment. They don’t even recognize just the pleasure of dealing with this epic poetry and drama. Everything is in the Bible. What does the left have? The left has a lot of attitude. — Camille Paglia

    “Everything is in the Bible” — morals, literature, poetry, art, sexuality, health and sanitation… and tribal warfare. So.. have lots of kids, and teach them the Bible.

  392. van Rooinek

    One more thing…
    It doesn’t just work for whites. Heck, when I read this story, they remind me of the Pilgrims..

  393. Worse case scenario maybe, but you forgot the internet is in the hands of the Government. Twitter and Cellphones can be blocked, and those rioters will still be stuck in the dark ages.

  394. What if the .gov wants the riots as part of their plan?

  395. What is not taken into account here, and something the average american forgets, is that america is not the only country on the planet.

    White people are outnumbered many times to 1 in the global family.
    We have always been desperate to change this ratio. We succeeded most in the early days of the american experiment, killing most indigenous people in america to claim the throne.

    Genetically, whether we like it or not, we are not the favoured race we at times like to think we are. There are many ‘others’ outside of the united states.

    I want to know, if things split along racial lines, what happens when america tries to re-engage with the wider global community.

  396. They want whats in the cooler and the pantry.I doubt they’d be concerned with the leftovers and the garbage. Have you ever worked at a restaurant?

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  400. How much of an area do you figure one them shutting down? Shut down a few cell towers and all you’ve done is drop coverage over a small area. At 60mph you cover one mile per minute. It would take shutting down a big area to really hamper communications.
    One matter Bracken didn’t include was immediate reaction by store owners. Witness the Koreans businessmen during the King riots taking to the rooftops with rifles and shotguns to protect their shops. There will also be the proliferation of “private guards” /mercenaries hired as security for wealthy neighborhoods and businesses.

  401. Thank you, for the valuable information, so much that I never thought of or considered, its helpful to atleast have some kind of clue about what to expect when the shtf, I think it best to move from the city asap, stock up, pray for the best but expect the worst, thank you again for I now have a plan and direction, and some hope for suvival, in the event of social unrest or worse.

  402. Damn straight. Lived in the boonies for 40 years. It really isn’t the boonies any more (I can see deer and high-rises from my porch) but the metro area is to the west of me, and a mile east, I’m in forest that stretches for hundreds of miles.

    The nearest rioting or looting would be 300 miles away, in Seattle. The Columbia river forms a natural barrier which would be easy to block, although police and National Guard would hold the orcs and goblins back before they reached Mercer Island and Microsoft.

  403. I have operated quite a few restaurants. I have never heard of the actions you are stating. Food waste must be kept very minimal to make a profit and stay in business. Proper management insures no food expires and needs to be thrown out, poor management doesn’t last very long. Arne’s fantasy follows the liberal norm, make stuff up and act like it’s fact. When in fact he just doesn’t know better. 47 million people in the US on food stamps. The soup kitchen lines of the depression have more to food stamps. No denting that, libtard.

  404. John Galt is Black


    There is nothing more to fear than a white man that can’t recognize he’s been plundered by white men-he’ll always blame another race-just like he’s been programmed to do.

    Stick with your own kind Mike-it suits you.

  405. John Galt is Black


    Fear or retribution is clearly on your mind. They doing to you? How laughable. You certainly mirror the Bush Admin-but like them, you will fail.

  406. Whatever, DUDE Life is Possibilities and Probabllitiies, thanks for the Physch Lesson

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  408. I love the way people read something until they come to one minuscule part that pisses them off, and decide the whole thing is garbage. No wonder most people resemble cattle(figuratively and litterally.)

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  413. is the link to the Bracken episode, there is also the youtube full episode here if interested –

  414. perhaps you guys can throw the youtube interview up somewhere:

  415. Holy shit you people are freakin CRAZY!!!!!!!! Damn, most people aren’t wired for violence lke you think, so NONE of this would ever happen. Although you all seem gripped with visions of violence. Hey I’ve got an idea, why don’t you actually visit one of those cities that you think will explode into violence, shake someone’s hand, smile, go to a coffee shop and stop being so damned paranoid.