Darkness Descending In England

H/t to GoV for their link to this AmThinker piece by Pam Geller on the recent arrests of EDL leaders Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll, along with British Freedom Party leader Paul Weston.

Thank Ford such a thing could never happen here in Lee Greenwood-land.

33 responses to “Darkness Descending In England

  1. Too bad they gave up their guns….dumb fucks.

  2. Another Anon

    I agree with the gist of the article with one minor thing, as mentioned the anti Muslim filmmaker guy is on probation , people on probation are subject to different rules and in a sense are not required to be treated with justness, PO somebody, especially a political somebody you are going to jail.

    Anyway what did anyone expect from the current administration

    That being said, this is about oil. Simply, the West is running out of money and energy both figurative and literal. The elite know they are at fault and will do anything to preserve their power base including shutting down opposition parties.

    The UK for all its peaceful veneer is seething (and not just the foreigners either) and is a few large scale riots away from mass starvation (they import nearly half of all food) and violence and a few votes away from elimination in its current form (Scotland may leave and its conceivable Wales as well)

    As has been much reported “The UK is only nine meals from anarchy ”


    of course on the upside, the State has shown its hand. Its becoming that there is no reason to play nice or by the peaceful rules.

    Two quotes for our UK friends.

    #1 Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. John F. Kennedy,

    #2 Keeping steadfast love for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, but who will by no means clear the guilty, visiting
    the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children’s children, to the third and the fourth generation.” Exodus 34:7

    Such liabilities as have been inflicted by the unjust are collective and suffer a time limit of near a century.

    lets us all hope and for the religious , pray it never need come to that for either of us.

  3. When the Brits gave up their guns, they gave up their freedom. Give up YOUR guns, you give up YOUR freedom. DON’T TREAD ON ME!

    • Cassandra (of Troy)

      Old Gringo/27Oct12@04:37,

      They, like we, have been giving up their freedom for a long, long time, & once that pattern’s (“FREEDOM IS SLAVERY”) so firmly established in the mind of the population that it becomes a reflexive response the loss of the means to retrieve liberty is of little if any consequence. That the peoples comprising the U.K. can be brave isn’t so much the question as whether they’ll snap out of their habit of ‘civiwised’ suhvitude, stand up, & take their nations back from those they’ve allowed to rule them for lo these many centuries w/o worrying about ‘theh bettahs’ tut tut comparisons to ‘those uncouth bahbahrus Yanks’.

      But we ‘freedom luvvin a** whoopin’ Uhmurrakunz have been doing our dead level best to surpass them in the race to the gulag, so perhaps a bit of introspective mote & beam grade humility might be in order.

      Cassandra (of Troy)

      • Cassandra: Your thoughts are way over this old simpleton’s head. Since 1972, my life has been predicated on taking events & circumstance to the lowest common denominator. That was the year I ran across an old hermit while white-watering down the Snake River in Idaho. After much coaxing, he relented to a campfire meal with my buddy and I. He didn’t speak much but I do remember Bill asking this grizzled old man what he’d learned from life. And what he said…changed mine. He said “most people mean well and everybody wants to live forever.” I’ve had a fine ride, never had any illusions about mortality and if my exit serves a greater purpose, all the better.
        Anyway, I’ve read your other posts in the short while I’ve been here and I do appreciate that which i can understand. All my best……….OG

  4. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Given the Dutch & Norwegian govt’s attempts to silence Geert Wilders & Fjordman, such actions should be expected as they’re the logical result of the program of socio-economic destruction of not just England, but Scotland, Ireland, the rest of Europe, the U.S., Canada, SoAfrica, Oz, NZ, & Russia as well. That there’s a growing reaction against the Islamization of (to use religious terminology) ‘the Christian world’ is obvious, & so the Leftists who run most of the govts in that sphere having common cause w/ the Islamofascists will quite naturally use whatever means (the legal system, print/visual media, pop culture agents of influence) they have at their disposal to defeat their mutually hated enemy. But there’s a factor threatening their joint effort that they can’t illegalize, extort, ridicule, or deny out of existence.:

    Eurozone unemployment hits record high, while Mario Monti sees ‘light at the end of tunnel’

    Spain’s Tax Take Tumbles as Companies Go Abroad

    Spain jobs woes deepen as unemployment rate hits 25pc

    Greece’s Extreme Right Strengthens as Economy Sinks

    But even the above isn’t likely to deter the aforementioned ideological partners as the following explains.:

    Illiberal Liberals

    Coercion, the Liberal Tonic

    People really should stop using liberal/liberals/liberalism as descriptors for Leftists/Leftism as it’s not only semantically incorrect & intellectually sloppy, but also gives the public the impression that the enemy’s reasonable & harmless & that those who resist them are bigoted, fascistic, & VERY dangerous crazoids who need to be stopped at all costs.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

    • Admiral Ackbar

      “Eurozone unemployment hits record high, while Mario Monti sees ‘light at the end of tunnel”

      It’s a trap! Uh, I mean it’s a train!

      • Cassandra (of Troy)

        Admiral Ackbar/27Oct12@14:10,

        As long as the train’s union run it don’t matta wot appins, royt?

        Cassandra (of Troy)

    • Mutant Swarm

      Whenever I see those terms, I’ve taught myself to mentally translate “liberal/liberals/liberalism” into “hard left Marxists/Marxism.”

      • Cassandra (of Troy)

        Mutant Swarm/27Oct12@19:11,

        Then to you the anti-Federalists were/are Reds?

        Cassandra (of Troy)

  5. alan w. mullenax

    We should be standing up for the film maker here.

    Any volunteers?

    Didn’t think so.

    I’m reasonably sure you wouldn’t help my ass either.

    It seems that we have arrived at the base problem, yes?

    • Let me restate the problem thus:

      If I won’t pull the trigger in my own defense, why should I expect others to do it for me?

      • Good point. The heart of matter.

      • Cassandra (of Troy)


        That pov is now considered anachronistic & even dangerously anti-social by not only a good portion of the populace but our govtl/LE/social ‘bettahs’ as well, Pericles, & as an apparently intelligent person you know that to hold such an opinion’s VEDDY unciviwised.

        Shape up & get w/ the times, Pericles, forthwith!

        Cassandra (of Troy)

      • alan w. mullenax

        Well, just one problem. I don’t expect anyone to shoot it out alone. That for all intents and purposes is suicide. Not big on suicide.

        But, nothing wrong with chastising those around you that do not come to your aid. Benghazi anyone?

    • Another Anon

      Not exactly. Said filmmaker is a convicted scam artist on probation. While he does retain basic rights, a great deal of the people, probably including ones here see him as a “convict” not a victim.

      Now this mind set needs to be done away with , you do your time, its done (no more denial of say gun or voting rights for felons) but again even that doesn’t apply here, as a probationer he is essentially still doing his time, just not behind bars.

      Also the fear of collectivism (justified mind you) and love of individual liberty can work against this movement,. Everyone can’t be a rugged individualist or nothing will get done. If you scale is only a tribe or local , a sound choice I have no issue with, than this guy is not your concern anyway.

      If the issue is broader and national, you get into the whole issue of leadership I was politely flamed for quite recently.

      You can’t have both.

    • Cassandra (of Troy)

      alan w. mullenax/27Oct12@07:20,

      “We should be standing up for the film maker here.”

      Indeed. The principle is what’s important, the person/place/thing not so much, at least to me.

      “I’m reasonably sure you wouldn’t help my ass either.”

      Oh, I dunno awm, if you’re pretty, owed me money, or hadn’t returned something you borrowed from me I’d make the effort.


      Cassandra (of Troy)

      • alan w. mullenax

        I assure you I am one handsome motherfucker. Worthy of whatever aid that can be extended to me.

        And I do have something of yours that is of value to you. An appreciation for your individual freedom and the the willingness to fight and die for it.

  6. America might as well have let Schicklgruber & Co. have them in WW2, since what they have ended up with isn’t much different. The Nazis disarmed the conquered territories and rounded up any dissidents WROL, which seems to be what is happening in Britain now. Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll are today’s equivalent of Sophie Scholl, Hans Scholl, Alex Schmorell, Willi Graf, and Christoph Probst. EDL = White Rose Society. The Brits have consented to dhimmitude on the installment plan. Assuming that Barry the Quisling isn’t the Dear Leader for the next 4 years we can at least hope that Americans will retain the ability to resist the USA becoming a caliphate.

    • Another Anon

      The Brits could get guns if they wanted them, ammo too. Drugs are plentiful there , island or no and if the market is there, the sellers will come. In fact there are more guns than some years ago do to just this very thing. With the end of the Soviets and with illicit Chinese exports, there are plenty of them out there to buy. It would in fact be a great irony if future UK freedom fighters, were there to be any won the day with Com-Bloc arms.

      The thing is the goal of these people on the Right is peaceful change and its hard to get the Non Chav, Non Foreign Britons riled up. The national motto might as well be “keep calm and carry on” Once they do, look out.

      Now this is an outside American opinion. any UK readers should get precedence.

      Also more important, to win you need an agenda. I don’t think any of the Right there has much of a workable one beyond booting the foreigners .

      Thats not enough, the average citizen UK is a lot more collectivist (in some ways, not all) than many in the US and having the mindset of being a subject, will demand to be lead. The UK is not able to tribe up quite like we are without a bigger catastrophe.

      I don’t know how any of the groups could do that or get along well enough with the others to do that especially after a war,

      • Read the platform of the British Freedom Party. Can’t link now but google should work.

        We Yanks could cop much from it.

      • While they may be able to get guns if they want them I suspect training with them might be a problem.

        Might be an opportunity there for us stateside, if we have the means.

        • Cassandra (of Troy)


          Strictly hypothetically, wouldn’t it be interesting if orgs like EDL/similar in mainland Europe confabbed w/ oh, say, certain Erinese, post-Etruscan, &/or civic groups w/ similar sympathies farther to the east for the purposes you referred to? Given the Eurozone travel policies it shouldn’t be too difficult, & as far as funding for such vacations is concerned, well, remittances are a common practice, si?

          Cassandra (of Troy)

  7. English law is considerably different than those here in the USA. Google their “official secrets act” to see how extreme it can be against civil rights as we understand them. In this country it is almost impossible for an average citizen to protest anything effectively. The news papers will often take the liberty to “edit” your Letter to the Editor to make it appear you are an idiot by ommission or taking sentances out of context. I protest symbolically every time I mail anything by using the 45 cent postal stamp that has our flag on it by affixing it upside-down on the envelope —the internation maritime sign of distress. Distress is what we are in – join me and do the same.


    • Semper Fi, 0321

      Been doing it a long time, besides, I hope it pisses off any postal union worker who knows what it means.
      Wow, I just realized why my mail never gets there!

  8. It is a shame so many of the very best of our country died defending this
    pot o piss great briton. Piss on the religion of peace.

  9. We Are Angry And Outraged! We’re not angry, we’re very disappointed…The recent arrest of EDL Leader Tommy Robinson really stinks. It stinks because it has so obviously come about as a result of political pressure. It stinks because he is currently being held alongside numerous Muslim inmates who have already made it clear that they don’t exactly wish him well. And it stinks because it is all part of a long-fought campaign to silence both Tommy and the EDL.

  10. Not a fan of the EDL but I hate political imprisonment.

    All they have done is make a martyr of someone who would otherwise be ignored and ridiculed. Hitler was incarcerated in Landsberg for nearly 2 years and look what happened to him…

    • Not a fan of the EDL but I hate political imprisonment.

      Also Mandela, Mugabe and even Aung San Suu Kyi was a political prisoner and look what happened there too…

  11. And in the end, it’s just another nail in the coffin of the “we can fix this non-violently” crowd.
    Sorry for the capslock but it’s cut’n’paste.

  12. Is it that hard to comprehend that traveling with a false passport is an prisonable offence?