WRSA Anti-Nazi/Anti-Communist/Anti-Race-Supremacist/Anti-Islam Policy

The WRSA policy on race/religion/ethnicity/gender/class is simple:

Fact-based discussion on controversial topics is encouraged.

Unsupported assertions regarding the Jewish people or any other religious or ethnic group as a whole will be mocked or deleted, at editorial discretion.

The only exception to the above rule is the totalitarian-political-system-of-pillage-and-rapine-masquerading-as-a-religion known as Islam.

Members of the NSDAP, the Communist Party, global socialists, and their adherents, followers, or fellow travelers can and should each go stab themselves and at least one ideological ally in the eye with a bayonet.


That is all.

161 responses to “WRSA Anti-Nazi/Anti-Communist/Anti-Race-Supremacist/Anti-Islam Policy

  1. Excellent caveat CA, my sentiments exactly. Do you know why DumpDC was taken down at wordpress? When do your guys want to do that TCCC course?

  2. Russ at DumpDC is ok – this was not political.

    Email on other question.

  3. Looks like Lincoln, Jefferson, and Washington would not be allowed to post at this site. So much for “being American.”

    It is of course very interesting why you’ve chosen to protect ONLY the jewish people, and to demonize ONLY the muslims. Interesting interpretation of free speech. But then again, you don’t believe in those things. No really.

    This is your moral code: might makes right. Now we know. You’re a complete hypocrite, and you would support the TSA, police brutality and extrajudical killings so long as they support your cause, which is your own profit.

  4. What happened at Dump DC?
    I hate gossip, and didn’t agree with some of what he had to say, but inquiring minds want to know.

  5. Terms of service issue; commercial not political.

    Russell will say more.

  6. Where will he do so? A new site TBD?
    And thanks.

  7. Ryu:

    You got me.

    I confess.

    I am a Jew-loving arch-Red totalitarian federal informant/provocateur.

    And racisssss…

    Thank you for your support.

    BTW – fuck Islam.

  8. What he just said…

  9. The question I have is this:

    The only exception to the above rule is the totalitarian-political-system-of-pillage-and-rapine-masquerading-as-a-religion known as Islam.

    Does the above policy imply that it is o.k. to throw out unsupported assertions in relation to Islam?

    Even if one hates a system, one should make sure to have a basis for assertions.

    This is true whether one is going after National Socialists, Muslims, Jews, Whites, Blacks, or Martians.


  10. You are of course correct.

    However, the point was to make clear that Islam is a very special case.


  11. Not taking the Jews out of the discussion would lead to “Those 14million (*#(*@)# Jews commit all the evil in the world and beat up on those 1 billion muslims all the time” stupidity.
    muslims are the scourge of the planet. Especially when you realize that if you could push a button and delete all the muslims, the world would be a much more peaceful place.
    P.S. I don’t think WSRA has to abide by free speech rules.

  12. Gotcha.


    I agree that it is, well…like you said…a special case.


  13. Don’t forget along with bullying 1.2B+ muzzies, the Jooooooooooooos control all of the West via their Media and Finance machines.

    [Eye roll]

    Heaven help the Indians and Chinese once the Joooooooooooooooooooooooooooos target them as well…


  14. So much for first amendment rights ,you can criticize all but the self -chosen,I guess this this no different that the rest of forums “can`t touch this”
    come to mind

  15. This is an excellent policy, one that I can get behind 100%. Stated clearly and unambiguously.

    Well said, CA.

  16. Perfect and posted.

  17. For the record: inaddition to being a cop, I was a general contractor in southern California. And I will tell you, no one in the construction biz would have anything to do with a Moslem owned or operated project… no one. Even if they paid cash up front!


    And a great big AMEN!! to that!.

  19. Choke to death on a turd, Jewhater.

    See you in hell.

  20. 1) a great big AMEN to the posting. 2) ISLAM is absolutely incompatable with Western Civilization. They demand to dominate the world…WE will just have to show them what “NO!” means. Most do not realize it, but this IS a war…for our and Western Civilization’s survival Islams goal is our destruction…as a people, as a nation. We either send them all back to some nation already under islam, or we will have to kill them….they will not hesitate to kill us.

  21. Yeah, what the Graybeard said. Necessary, unfortunately, but perfectly executed.

  22. Henry, when you understand the meaning of the 1st Amendment, come back and post something intelligent.

  23. CA should wise up.

  24. The sysop has shown his delicate underbelly.
    Use it as you see fit.

  25. Islam and the West have been involved in an on-again, off-again HotWar for almost 1,400 years, with plenty of aggression in both directions. However, that war was entirely in recess (post Ottoman collapse) until a certain domestic power Power wrapped Israel around America’s neck during the early 1960s…back to HotWar since then. I can remember the Suez Crisis, 1956: Israel/Brits grabbed the Canal, Eisenhower told them to get out or else. Hard to imagine anything like that happening now. Even Barack Hussein truckles. The money and weapons flow steadily, and the Syrian thing? That’s Obama attempting to break the Shia Crescent (the Tehran/Baghdad/Damascus/South Lebenon Axis so unfortunately created by Bush when he did Iraq over the petrodollar issue)…and the reason why Hezbollah is the force it is today. One thing for sure: the neo-Conz, Bush 43, and Obama have in a decade, via the post-9/11 National Security State, done more to destroy the Constitution and Bill of Rights than the HardLeft did during the past 100 years.

  26. So much for being a antitotalitarian “american”with an Israeli passport ,go to Hell on you own transportation,I `ll rather go with my fellow travellers, another youtube like censoring ex-forum for me,shalom

  27. ‘Ya know, I’ve been reading WRSA for about 3yrs now … I don’t say shit, I just take notes and keep tabs on how yet another fuck-stick is subverting this formerly damn fine Country that I love and have bled for. Then I go back to my reloading bench and continue hand rolling my special SLAP rounds while mulling over the latest corn-holing we’re receiving via FedGov and their sympathizers. Making a list and checking it thrice, if you know what I mean.

    Then I run across a post like this that puts the brakes on the reloading bench, for tonight anyway, and go into my stash and crack open a 15yr old bottle of Dimple, that was 15yrs old when I purchased it, and enjoy 3 fingers of 30 yr old Scotch … CA, I salute you, sir!

    Until someone has spent a year or ten under sharia law living with those filthy-fucking mullahs and their illiterate corn-holing followers, experiencing firsthand how they treat anyone that isn’t a mooslim and follower of their so-called religion of peas, they just don’t have a clue as to the depths of depravity these people (i use the term loosely) will go to to further their cult of death.

    I’ll refrain from going any further, Scotch has a tendency to make me long-winded and preachy, and that 05:00 PT run in battle rattle is going to come earlier than I’d like. Suffice it to say, you’re spot on with this post, CA … Thank you for making it.


  28. As per Islam … what we need are confidence-building steps to restore the ‘war process’, but this time total unrestrained and all-out … with The Doors doing their thing in the background.

  29. Oh, noes!

    The JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS are making my pyjamas itchy!

    JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS have made my life suck and my palms hairy!

  30. Disappointed in you.

    Thanks for breaking cover publicly though.

    [Sysop shakes head….]

  31. Nubbing Fingered Jake Roedel

    Concerned American? I certainly hope so – I’ll roll with it. As a White Racialist and Racial Realist (meaning I understand the realities of this nation’s racial decline), I am sadden to read your new guideline for comments. I find it extremely humorous that I can bad mouth Mooooslims all day – but I dare not mussy the hair on a Rabbi for his “preaching” that Jesus is in hell being boiled in feces, because he opposed the rabbis (Tractate Gittin 57a) or that many Jews believe “a Jew may act contrary to morality if profitable to himself or to Jews in general?” (TALMUD: Schulchan Bruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348).

    Gentleman, I consider you all my allies. I do not demean you because you believe that Washington, Hamilton, Jefferson and my WWII veteran grandfather fought for the right of all Jews, Muslims, Negros, and Mexicans to become “citizens” of our once White country. Yet, you would hate or exclude me from your ranks for my belief that this nation was, instead, founded for the sole benefit of our {European} Posterity [much like Israel was founded for the sole benefit of Jews world wide after their suffering]?

    Gentlemen, I come here to learn Tactics, Strategies, and Current events that may soon impact our freedoms and futures. Granted, most of our discussions need not concern themselves with the nasty issues of Race or Religion, but when we discuss politics and point fingers, one would have to be as stupid (or blindly corrupt) as John Hagee to NOT see the damage that organized Jewry has done to our system of Government and this Nation. CA, you don’t have to be a “Jew-loving arch-Red totalitarian federal informant/provocateur” to understand that Jews brag about their control of our media [http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jews-do-control-the-media/].

    Gentlemen, make no mistake, if we are to prevail in the coming North American MultiCultural Wargames (NAMCWG), then we must realize that just like the Muzzzies, many liberal Jews are hoping for the Defeat of FreeFor. Who do you think will be “ordering” Opfor into the field against us? I’ll tell you, Sen. Carl Levin and Sen. Joseph Lieberman and Diane Fienstein, Who will be writing the Checks? Treasury Sec. Ben Shalom Bernanke [http://youtu.be/uNhUR3QR6dg]. Certainly, these Socialist Jews would not be in positions of such power without the treasonous cooperation of our own craven, greedy Goyim shills who pose as White (Christian) men.

    Gentleman, my point in all this is – if we don’t pull together as White men, just as the Non-Whites (Muslims) and Jews did on Nov. 6th, 2012 to elect “their” leader, then we may as well turn in the guns when ordered to do so or prepare to face our deaths alone and unsupported. Yes, there are Self-Hating Jews who see what their “progressive” brethren are doing to America- but they are too few, Yes, there are race traitor Negros who would rather be second class citizens in a White America than full and equal citizens in a socialist Multi-Culty Obamanation [see Zimbabwe and South Africa for evidence of Black citizens’ laments of One Man, One Vote: One Time], Sadly, we have more racially blind and dumb White Americans and openly hostile Race Traitor Whites who unknowingly voted for the upcoming NAMCWGs and won’t realize their error until their sons are beaten or killed in a “random act of violence” [reverse Hate Crime] by a gang of “youths” or their daughters ravaged and assaulted or they suffer the results of a Home Invasion by an El Salvadoran Drug Gang,

    As for me, I have done all that I can – I moved my family from Baltimore, MD to the III Citadel before I even knew it was the III Citadel!! Why did I move from Multi-Culti Central on the East Coast to North Idaho? Because I am a Racial Nationalist – far to the right of Pat Buchanan and just a little to the left of Hitler. I do not believe the Lower 48 can be retained, the Demographics are against Whites, or that the original intent of the Constitution can be restored. Although, like Ann Barnhardt, I am all in favor of rescinding women’s right to vote and removing citizenship status from all Negros and the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions. How can we be Superior or Supremacists if we allowed our country to ended up in this mess a mere 236 years later?.

    Gentleman, I do not ask that you embrace me as a “brother” necessarily, but I want your assurance that I only need keep my aim focused on the Golden Hoard in front of us and that you will not shoot “the racist” the back during the fray or frag me while I sleep once we are bivouacked? Can we at least agree that as, mostly, White men you and me have more in common than you might have with any freedom-spouting Negro or Jew or Latrino? To Quote my favorite revolutionary circa 1992, “Can’t we all [Whites] just get along?”

  32. This ass clown, Ryu, is nothing but a self admitted Nazi, white supremacist.

    Frickin Troll.


  33. Thanks for stating the policy very clearly.
    WRSA and GoV (Gates of Vienna not .gov that is) battling for first place on my Favorites list.

    Though your poor attention to Historical detail in the rest of your post explains why you did not know that.

    Honestly Yours,
Superior nuisance, Happy D.

  35. “Members of the NSDAP, the Communist Party, global socialists, and their adherents, followers, or fellow travelers can and should each go stab themselves and at least one ideological ally in the eye with a bayonet.


    My sentiments exactly!

  36. Jimmy the Saint

    “Most do not realize it, but this IS a war…for our and Western Civilization’s survival Islams goal is our destruction…as a people, as a nation. We either send them all back to some nation already under islam, or we will have to kill them….they will not hesitate to kill us.”

    Unfortunately, our government and elites are on the other side.

  37. CA: Ty for taking relevant @holes to task but particularly the Jew Haters. Having spent time in both Israel and Arab nations, I’ve no doubt where western civilization is best served. Further, I’ve no doubt that the “bedous” would like to have some of these bad ass white boys in their service.

  38. 5 Camel Toes Up Robin! As Ed McMahon used to shout at Johnny………..
    “You are correct, sir!”

  39. And that is the central problem: the elites of all backgrounds want to wring all possible value from the plebes and then, eventually, surplus all but a serving-staff’s of them.

    And why?

    Because they are superior (in their minds at least) and thus must protect the idol Gaia and “the planet”.

    Agenda 21 is the framework, and the primary heresy is that conceit that alleged or actual superior intelligence authorizes and indeed obligates folks to lord over others. See Margaret Sanger, OW Holmes, Woodrow Wilson, John Dewey, Teddy Roosevelt, and the rest of the Progressive crowd for the model.

    If more people lived Dear Abby’s MYOB advice (OMG, another Joooooooooo!), the coming unpleasantness would be a lot less bloody.

    But they don’t so it won’t, and thus all must be ready, willing, and able to repeatedly do things that would make a buzzard puke until either victory or death.

    Fuck Islam.

    Fuck the elites.

    And fuck anyone who wants to hurt my friends, be they atheist, Jewish, or anything in between.

  40. “Nope, sorry, can’t find any problems with the statement or the policy.”

    Of course you can’t—you never do see the essential principles. A thing is what it is, and that includes you.

    And of course Pete can do as he wishes…it’s his blog. Duh. I’m surprised you even figured out that principle.

    Here’s the problem with the policy. I’ve written it dozens of times, so I might as well write it one last time…

    The battle has ALWAYS been individualism versus collectivism.

    When you figure out that THERE ARE NOTHING BUT INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE, then that’ll be some wonderful day. I’m bettin’ it won’t be in this lifetime, though.

  41. Yup.

    And here’s the individual version:

    Individuals who leave me and mine alone, along with our stuff, or who wish to trade fairly, or who come in friendship: welcome.

    Individuals who come intending harm for me and mine, along with our stuff: relentless savagery until one of us is dead.

    Pretty simple.



  43. Promote “Sat Cong”!

  44. I have been a consistent outspoken advocate of individualism from my very first comment here.
    Grouping people is lazy and you should know better.
    Your disappointment pales next to mine, really.

  45. indyjonesouthere

    This is a cyclical Mathusian problem that is being carried out this time as the earth day freakshow. Nothing like using the Dewey principles to propagandize global warming, zero population growth, sustainable development and all the other code bullshit for the government control with all the required government mandates. There are too many bought and paid for politicians and 3rd and 4th generation trust funders that firmly believe their one world utopian mirage is “THE WAY”. Fuck them! As far as the people that promote this shit, is there any real difference between a religious/political system like marxist socialism or islamic sharia. Hell no. Either one will enslave me if given the chance. But there is a big difference between a national council of churches methodist and the reverend Wilson. And between a Barnhardt Catholic and a pedophile priest, and between a religious Jew and a secular George Soros. As a white I refuse to put up with any more raciss shit either. Blacks have a problem, they are 12% of the population and nearly 50% of the violent crime, and thats from the FBI statistics. And nearly 70% of blacks are born out of wedlock. Jesse, Al, and Obama need to address their own race and leave mine the hell alone. Black leadership and black morality are the problem, not me. Know where you are on the Cube. Prepare. Your life and families life depend on it.

  46. Encroachment on our liberty can come from anyone. To demonize an ethnic group because a large percentage of their members are clueless bed-wetting liberals plays right into the hands of the PTB. Michael Savage is Jewish. Yet, when he formed the Paul Revere Society back in the early nineties, he got what was happening with Amerika. Look how the Left and the bloviating frauds on Faux News have demonized him.
    And now that we have settled the terms and conditions of posting replies on this website, let’s focus on what is looming over the horizon and get preppped. I’ll start with a technical question related to my next pending firearm purchase. What would you guys recommend: A Colt 1911, a Remingtion R1, or a Glock 21SF? Thanks.

  47. Battlefield USA

    Meh. No one is going to save the Jews from annihilation but Christ. The word that I hear, is that all this must come to pass until His return. Whether one loves or hates the Jews… it’s gotta happen man. Ain’t nothing anyone can do to change that. By same the same token, I can only imagine how many Boo-slims will see that great and glorious day… and also fall to their knees. After all, they too are of the seed of Abraham. Half brothers in-deed! Both have rejected their Messiah. And then one day they will see Him for who he was… and is. 😉

  48. Yes, it is pretty simple, isn’t it. CA I applaud you, not just because I respect and care about the Jews, but because you have made as rational a statement as possible. Even Jim Klein, as reasonable as he usually is, is missing your point.

    And to Robin Sage, excellent comment, but for one thing: you don’t have to live under Sharia or even in the same land as the muslims to understand how morally bankrupt, filthy, and depraved Islam is. Simply paying attention to the children they have killed – their own little girls poisoned for wanting to go to school, their daughters and wives for dressing wrong or looking at a boy, before we even mention the way they target Jewish children as with the Fogel family. Then there is the rape of “beardless boys”, the genital mutilation of infant girls, arranged “marriage” where a forty+ year old man gets to use a nine year old girl as a sex toy – said child then being abused by his male relatives and friends at will, and beaten, starved, abused by his other wives and females in the house, etc., et-fricking-cetera.

    Anyone with their eyes open and who can read either understands the abomination that is Islam, or they are brain-dead. Fuck Islam, Fuck Allah, and Fuck that child-molesting, goat-raping, ignorant, ugly fool named Mohammed, Piss Be Unto Him.

  49. SameNoKami, CA, et al.

    Why do I focus on Hitler so much?

    This comment:

    Especially when you realize that if you could push a button and delete all the muslims, the world would be a much more peaceful place.

    explains a lot.

    Lots of people say “never again”.

    Then they say these things.

    Am I the only one who sees this hypocrisy?

  50. Yup, that’s EXACTLY the principle, Pete. You’ve been very accommodating of me, so I’ll take the time to try and explain. You wrote it perfectly here…can it, ship it and spread it far and wide.

    I wish every person could read it over and over, until they get it.

    I enjoy yapping about politics, but my real gig is epistemology…and the ethics that directly ensues from it. The ethics is simple—a man’s life is worth it and he should do everything to further it…his life, the lives he cares about, and even what he can do to live in a rational society. But all of that is only HIS. We may share values and we may want the same things, but in the end each of us is alone. I mean that as a matter of FACT. We are each alone and only each of us can decide with whom we wish to trade or deal. That’s WHY you’re right here, and that’s WHY freedom and liberty are so important.

    Another man, or group of men, can only stop a man from living as he wishes through brute, physical force. Period. There is no other way. This is no secret here and it’s the KEY to what being an American is all about. That’s WHY there’s freedom of religion, and speech and the press and all that. Only with our MINDS can we live the way we want and should. “A man’s mind is his means of survival.” Everything–and I mean EVERYTHING–comes from that. This is the nature of being volitional, and why every move that every functional human has ever taken, was motivated EXCLUSIVELY by his own mind. Things may persuade, or even convince, but absent plain brute force, EVERY action is WHOLLY driven by our own free will.

    I don’t like collectivism and I don’t like racism. But so what? If I am going to be free to be rational, then the next guy must be free to be irrational. Until he pulls out the weapon, it just makes no difference in my life. Lots of people hate me, but big deal. As long as I can PHYSICALLY stop them from forcing me to do anything, I have my life and can live it as I choose. So if that’s what I want for my life, and it is, then I gotta let the next guy have the same thing. To deny this is to pretend that he is something different than me, and he is not. IOW it would be a mistake of IDENTIFICATION, and THAT’S the fundamental purpose of our abstracting minds.

    We have lived as brute animals for well over 5,000 years now. We’re animals alright, but we have something that allows us not to be brutes; we have our minds. And for our minds to operate properly, we have to separate the true from the false. And a man CAN’T do that without the premises and assertions out there for all to see. That’s basically my point.

    There can be no “givens;” there can be no “off-limit” assertions. The ONLY thing that’s off-limit is the attempt to PHYSICALLY rule over another man. That’s why we are where we are, and I know that you know that. If racism is just an ugly form of collectivism, then it should be out there for all to see, and EXPLAIN why it’s wrong. For that matter, the same with the craziness that is socialism, or altruism (as a motivating philosophy) or ANYTHING ELSE. These are all ultimately failures of understanding the truth, the nature of what we are.

    As soon as a man accepts ANY “given” as the motivator of his life, he has sacrificed his fundamental means of survival. There are a few axioms to be sure…”A is A,” or “I own myself.” But these aren’t pulled out of thin air; they are RECOGNIZED as self-evident; they are UNDERSTOOD as being necessarily true. They serve as cognitive building blocks so that we may move forward and enhance our own survival and flourish.

    EVERYTHING cognitive is hierarchical.

    Sorry, I wish I could express this in fewer words, but I can’t. I know you to be a good man, and I know almost every reader here to be likewise. That’s the biggest secret of all—almost everyone is decent, and very, very few people really want to physically coerce other men in order to get what they want. Even the FSA doesn’t know what they’re doing; they’re just doing what they’ve been taught.

    We’ve been duped, that’s all. I enjoy exposing cons and scams, but I can’t very well do that if they’re not out there to be exposed. That’s why I think this is a mistake. Like with nearly all mistakes made by nearly all men, the intent is honorable and I’m not questioning that.

    But then, we all know with what the Road to Hell is paved.

  51. I have attempted to live my life without asking for help form anyone else, have worked hard and lived a decent life to date. Just leave me (the fuck) alone and to that end, I will leave you (the collective ‘you’) along, but screw with me and there will (and now probably will be) trouble – I believe it is coming our way. I have a problem with about one billion people who would not mind seeing my head on a pole because I do not ‘believe’ as they do and a bigger problem with those in our own conutry who are attempting to force their political views, mandates and laws down my mouth.
    I don’t know who ‘authors’ this site, but I appreciate the presentations and links to other sites – at least there is a counter balance to the crap presented by the ‘major networks’ where thinking people (with an ounce of critical thinking skills) can deciminate information/opinions/ideas and come to their own conclusions. Thank you for your time and effort;.

  52. It is pretty ridiculous to say that 1A applies to bloggers.

    I’ve had the very same ignorant accusation leveled at me, too.


  53. Just noticed Billy Beck’s site is down. DumpDC and Billy?

  54. Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY White country and ONLY into White countries.

    The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

    Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY White country and ONLY White countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-Whites.

    What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-Blacks were brought into EVERY Black country and ONLY into Black countries?

    How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

    And how long would it take any sane Black man to notice this and what kind of psycho Black man wouldn’t object to this?

    But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the White race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-White.

    Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.

  55. As a freedom loving, Islamic hating Jew I want to applaud your efforts in booting out the antisemitic posters to your site. While most of the US Jewish population are loathe to really look at the danger this pro Islamic administration has endorsed-they refuse to look at the consequences it could ultimately bring to themselves.

    This is because the majority of these Jews have taken on the mantle of Liberalism and Leftism rather than the tenants of religious Judaism. I say, screw those idiots, because they are bound to reap the ugliness that they have sown. Do not make the mistake of lumping a growing percentage of Jews with the likes of Chuckie S and Diane F…who are clearly practicing leftism and socialism.

    There are Jewish readers of WSRA who adhere to the facts that this country is headed for the dustbin, and that ugly times are about to come. While my religious observance may differ from your non Jewish readers, it does not mean that I am not on the same page with what you espouse and post on your fine blog.

    Concerned American, thank you for booting the George Rockwell crowd. And you are really right about one thing. Islam is a danger to any free loving person!

  56. Tye ugly head of tyranny continues to raise it’s head throughout history only to be defeated so this is what will happen again.

    Need to read this new book out about Americans taking a stand against our federal tyranny & they end up starting the 2nd American Revolution. Now this is a must read book so I recommend it.


    Ultimately it all comes down to small groups of Americans uniting by putting away their differences cause that is the only way tyranny can survive, i.e. divide the people & have them fight amongst themselves. Great article!! Thanks!

  57. “When you figure out that THERE ARE NOTHING BUT INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE,”

    Except when they “got tribe?” and you don’t.

    The jewish debate just amuses me anymore, as it often resembles the islam one. I’ve been called a hater for daring to state Israel has a right to exist and an anti-Semite for daring to criticize them. Heck I’ve been called a hater even for pointing out some of the movers and shakers of socialism/communism in the west’s particular heritage.

  58. It is discouraging to see this sort of advocacy here, in spite of the intent of this post.

    What if someone advocated “deleting” all jews?

    This is hypocrisy, CA.

  59. CA, here’s another blog which you may find informative. I’m not sure some of the commenters would, though.

  60. indyjonesouthere

    My post disappeared but it doesn’t really matter…its been well said already.

  61. Choking on a turd? Emulating his boy-toy idol Adolf. Consult the Allied psychological profile if you can, and do son on an empty stomach.

  62. Larry Elliott


  63. AP: the track record of Islam and Judaism are equivalent?

  64. AP, I don’t think you focus on Hitler so much. Doesn’t stand out in my memory.
    “Never again” is in reference to Hitler’s Jew policy, not a catch all for everybody else. At least I have never seen it used as a rallying cry when referencing Hutus and Tutsis, Rwanda, Sudan, Darfaur.
    Islam is a warrior based religion, so one would expect war to be the outcome of such.
    And note that I used the word “delete” not “round their sorry a$$es up, kill ’em all and let God sort them out.” It is a mental exercise to show the crap that muslims are committing.
    Hypocrite? Maybe I am. But I do see the muslim for what he is and for what his Koran teaches.
    Here’s a good Churchill quote to go along with the theme –
    “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as
    a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

  65. CA – You had me ROLLING with that response!!!!

  66. Run w/your exercise of “deleting” the Jews. Pick a good date to have started it.
    1787 – “Kiss my nasty white a$$, Jefferson!! We ain’t using no &#^%$ Jew book to guide our Constitution!!. And we don’t want no second-class Jews running this convention either. No Jew followers!!”
    Year 1 – “Yep, we got all the Jews, Augustus. Rounding up their lying a$$es via a trap to “tax the whole world” is just priceless.”
    What year is it anyway? Can’t be 2012yrs since that &#&% Jew baby was born.
    Got ~ 180 Nobel prizes given to Jews.
    Who gonna run the banks? Make the bagels?
    Now running the same w/muslims –
    Uhh…. The lifestock is safe. The 6yr old girls are safe. The bachi bazi boys are safe. Few to no suicide bombings. We got oil. We’re missing 2 Nobel prize winners. We don’t have nice Arab geometric designs.
    Did I mention the livestock is safe?
    Are Jews perfect? Not by a long shot. But they are light years better than Muslims.

  67. Islam is currently in the “Third Jihad” by their own writings, documents, and speech. Their aim is to convert by sword and forever eradicate the God of the Jews and the Christians as well. This is not hyperbole nor incitement; evidence from their own mouths, imams, hadiths, and the koran abound.

    I don’t advocate the eradication of the semitic people (which include Arabs); I advocate the eradication of Islam in its pure state.

    That is the position of this Christian.

  68. Under the ‘Jew’ column I should have put –
    No communism. A good thing.
    No nukes for WWII. Could go either way.

  69. Ryu says, “…It is of course very interesting why you’ve chosen to protect ONLY the jewish people, and to demonize ONLY the muslims…”
    CA isn’t ‘protecting’ anyone, Ryu: All he’s asking for is truth, facts, not fiction.
    If that’s being hypocritical, then you’ve gone well beyond hypocrisy by twisting his words to suit your purpose. But then, there’s that pesky ‘free speech’ thing again, huh? You seem to believe in free speech, so long as facts aren’t included.
    So much for your moral code, which only wants to denigrate people who seek the truth. You must work for the TSA and hope for extrajudicial killing license.

  70. PS: Dog shit and piss on the koran and the POS muhammed.

  71. Another Anon

    As with any blog, your house your rules.

    On the WN issue “The enemy of my enemy is not my friend but my enemies enemy, nothing more, nothing less.” (Schlock Mercenary)

    However given that FreeFor wisely wishes to keep Muslims out of the US (a sentiment ironically not shared with the founding fathers) you might consider going along with the WN’s “Whites Only” policy or something allowing very limited numbers of other ethnicities (there are few Japanese Muslims) combined with a ban on the public practice of Islam if you should ever winni

    Given that Islamics have a religious obligation to force their faith on others (the call to Jihad) and a religious teaching that permits and even encourages lying (Taqqiyah) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya

    You will have a mole problem from day one.

    Secular White people are less likely (though its not of course unknown) to be Muslims.

    Worse Islam is growing in Africa, China , India, The Philippines and other places.

    basically your almost have to go WN until you can find a method to screen foreigners.

    This suggests to me that an temporary alliance is a lot easier than both parties might think. What they want politically you reluctantly perhaps, both need.

  72. Good post, Pete! I usually just lurk around here, but I’ll say a few things quickly. Not long ago, I woke up and discovered that I had become a cantankerous old bastard. Since then, my sociopolitical beliefs can be distilled into this short assertion: Don’t fuck with me and I won’t kill you.

    After long observation, I’ve noticed that most Jews, blacks, latinos, asians, etc. are greedy assholes and shiftless morons. Come to think of it, so are most white people. Hmmm …

    Muslims are a different sort. In Amerika, most of them are about as devout as most Christians and Jews are here. Yeah. In the rest of the world, as we all know, the vast majority are frikkin’ psychos. As a certain blogger wrote, “There’s gonna be a fight. Let’s win.”

    As my sig line says on some of the biker sites, “Any religion that thinks dogs are ‘unclean’ is a fucked up religion.”

    One last thing: Despite her screwed-up politics, Charlize Theron is still my favorite African-American. 😀

    (Yes, she has dual citizenship, for you analytical types out there. Jeez … )

  73. Gosh, CA- you sure did raise some hackles just by asking for the truth… what’s with you, anyway? 🙂 (sarcasm key unlocked)

  74. GS:

    My apologies, then.

    Can you explain your sysop comment?

    I may have misunderstood.

  75. .45 Pistol?

    Whichever one fits your hand and feels comfortable shooting.

  76. My God.. is it really this simple to destroy a nation of free men ? Is it really this easy to divide a nation’s people that has conquered the world and yet has remained so shallow and infantile in allowing their own demise by manipulation ? Are we really so stupid ?

    After reading all the shit here today maybe its time for us to go.. we have little value to offer even ourselves at this rate.

    Our enemies are not each other unless they are contrary to our Liberty in which case we should visit upon them death and destruction until we can fight no more or until we win, but only then.

    Yank lll

  77. Promote “Sat Cong”!

    Heh.:) Indeed.

  78. Billy is ok. Admin stuff. He’ll be back.

  79. Thank you.

    I can live next to a Jew, Hindu, Sikh,Buddhist, and etc without fear of them slipping into my home and slitting our infidel throats.

    I cannot say the same about a muslem.

  80. I disagree with Aesop.

  81. Islam has their messiah. His name is Mohammed. And they are hellbent on world domination. Islam is a divergent path, far away from Judaism, while making its false Biblical claims to cloak Islam in a better light.
    Islam’s only true Biblical claim is that they are of Ishmael who is the semi-bastard son of Abraham and Gen 16:12 rightly declares “he will be a wild man and his hand against every man.”

  82. I have always admired your ability to cut to the chase, saying in few words what sometimes takes other sources volumes to say:

    “Fuck Islam.”
    “Fuck the elites”
    “And fuck anyone who wants to hurt my friends, etc, etc, etc.”


  83. Tom sez “In Amerika, most of them are about as devout as most Christians and Jews are here.”
    Tom, don’t go to the wrong parts of Detroit.
    Thar be muslims.
    2thumbs way up on Ms. Theron.

  84. I learned from some cranky old NCOs.


  85. “Even Jim Klein, as reasonable as he usually is, is missing your point.”

    Why do you say that? I didn’t miss the point, and I agree with the point. It’s wrong to make unsupported assertions against any group. and Islam presents a huge physical threat to the civilized world.

    So did I get the point? It’s not that tough really, and I already know Pete has a solid take on all the facts. The blind man Aesop thinks I’m all about “proselytizing” individualism, but that’s not right. I don’t “proselytize” anything; I just point out the facts of the matter and leave it to each person to figure things out for himself. I mean, that’s the only way it can happen, right?

    Uh, that’s sort of the higher point to me. Nobody can figure out anything unless it’s out there for them to figure out. When various points of view are withheld, then people’s minds go crazy with wild imaginations. We have Aesop for that too, showing the dangers of wild imagination.

    That’s a practical disbenefit, flowing from the moral disbenefit that some things should be hidden from consideration. I don’t argue pragmatics but if I did, it would be an easy case to make that this policy hurts Jews overall, rather than helps them. There’s already evidence of that just in this thread, and common sense says that no antisemite is going to stop being an antisemite because of this policy. Quite the contrary, a few non-antisemites might stop and ask themselves, “What the hell is this all about? Maybe the Jew bashers have a point.”

    I know it’s not about anything nefarious, but I don’t control those minds, do I? And neither does Pete or anyone else; this is why a policy like this can do no good. As far as how bad Muslims are, that too is an individual matter and no good can be served by pretending that it’s a collective matter, regardless of how valid the generalizations are. A valid generalization is still only a valid generalization, and the battle has ALWAYS been between individualism and collectivism.

    Get this. Only one thing can save us now, and that’s the transparency afforded by the Information Age. THAT’S the higher principle, and that’s what I’m arguing for. ALL things cognitive are hierarchical.

    But by all means, Reg, if you think there’s a point here that I don’t get, then please set it out. I’ll be grateful.

  86. “As a freedom loving, Islamic hating Jew I want to applaud your efforts in booting out the antisemitic posters to your site. While most of the US Jewish population are loathe to really look at the danger this pro Islamic administration has endorsed-they refuse to look at the consequences it could ultimately bring to themselves.”

    Doctor, heal thyself. You be sure and point out even ONE IOTA less antisemitism caused by this policy, and I’ll point out one iota more—just read a few of the comments above.

    Of course, that’s pragmatics and I hate arguing pragmatics. But that’s all you’ve got, which is one of the reasons we’re in this mess in the first place. Pragmatics suck, and they suck even worse when they’re wrong.

    “…they refuse to look at the consequences it could ultimately bring to themselves.”

    This is just too funny in its irony. I can hear you now, “Again?? What the hell happened?”

  87. “’When you figure out that THERE ARE NOTHING BUT INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE,’

    “Except when they ‘got tribe?'”

    Uh, no…except nothing. Tribes are made of individuals deciding to tribe up. Why, how did you think it happens? Are you a racist too, believing that we’re born into it or something?

    “and you don’t.”

    ‘Scuse me? You know this…how? Like every other soul on this planet, I have exactly the “tribe” I’ve chosen. And not only that, but I’m both grateful and honored to have the friends I do.

    Oh, is your point that my “tribe” is so much smaller than yours? That may be so; I don’t really know. What I do know is that this is exactly the claim made by every commie on the face of the planet, not to mention the believers in Democracy and even the gang-bangers down in the ‘hood. “Might makes right” and “rule by consensus” and all of that claptrap.

    So why in the world are you using the same logic as them?

  88. You guys lemme know when you get it. “The battle has ALWAYS been individualism versus collectivism.”

    So David, you can live next to David Berkowitz but you can’t live next to the Muslim cardiologist from your local hospital? Care to defend that assertion?

  89. System Operator, old term from back in the BBS days of the late 1980’s.
    Lemme tell you something.
    You may have gathered somehow that I am pro-muslim and anti-jew.
    If so, you are wrong.
    I am pro-me and anti-everybody else.
    I have made this clear numerous times in the past.
    I trust NO one.
    And I do not group people, ever.
    I see each person as an individual.
    When you group people you are ignoring the individual and this is wrong for many reasons including that you yourself are an individual, first and foremost.
    Nor do I accept being grouped by anyone. Last time I joined a group I almost paid for it with my life, the US army. Never again.

    I don’t give one goddamn about any muslim’s and as long as they leave me alone we can live in peace. That’s my one size fits all rule for everybody no matter what group they claim to be in or if they just want to be alone. When they, or anyone else, comes for me rest assured they are
    going to get way more than they can handle.

    This is the only life I’ll ever own and I’ll live it as I see fit and everybody else can go straight to hell.

  90. amen……Goldman’s Sack is run by Tibetan monks…..the NWO is a nigerian operation…….every administration seems to have alot of Chileans barking policy commands into the “president’s” ear

  91. Takuan Seiyo

    I found this discussion late and so can contribute late. There is much to be said against the Jews– as a group — and there is much to say in favor (think contributions since late 18th century, not to speak of the Bible and Christianity itself). It’s good, even important, to write about that, not the least for the benefit of American Jews who don’t seem to have a clue how much their socialist-multiculti-bleeding heart drift alientates them from the American white majority and puts them in a camp of people who are no friends of theirs.

    With this said, CA’s policy is right simply because there seem to be no people around who have the knowledge and the psychological balance to do this analysis correctly and truthfully, so commenters usually prattle nonsense that’s either malignantly false or stupid; antisemitism is after all 2300 years old. If they have the intellectual equipment, such as the premier antisemite of our age,Kevin MacDonald does, they cherry pick among the zillion facts they adduce to flesh out the negative, but suppress the positive in order to build a twisted theory. Or they lack the intellectual equipment altogether and just prattle what they soaked from some snake-swalling preacher about the Jews not being the Jews but WASPs being the Jews; with all of their Bible reading they haven’t even stopped to think that Jesus. Mary, Peter, Paul, the apostles and all Christians for the first 50 years of the creed were Jews, not Yorkshiremen.

    I have studied theses issues for a long time and touch on them in my writings. Two of my articles archived at Gates of Vienna are specifically about the JQ; “Critique of the Culture of Kevin McDonald” and “F Street.” GoV had so much trouble with nazizoid commenters to those two and in other posts where Jews were mentioned that it had to close down discussion of such matters.

  92. Charlize Theron is still my favorite African-American.

    Now THAT I can agree with!

  93. Battlefield USA


    Actually, Ishmael is no bastard son. He is just not the son of the promise. But still a true son of Abraham. But then again, you are nothing but a wild vine yourself grafted into the true vine (I assume). Anyhow, Jacobs sons, which make up the twelve tribes of Israel all didn’t fair well either when blessed by their father Jacob.

    You should read scripture more often. Not all Jews are the children of God. Not all Christians are… Christians. And not all Muslims will go to hell.

    You don’t honestly believe that some of those pharisees and sudducees and scribes didn’t know what they were doing when they rejected their Messiah… do you, and said, “We have no King but Caesar.” And so it will be in the end days… Jews and Gentiles alike.

    Of course, I am not making an excuse for Islam any more than I am for that filthy, disgusting religion of Hinduism. Or any peoples who know nothing but anti-liberty who come to America from any country and bring their culture of… anti-liberty only to live off the back of their host country. Anymore that I am for Christians who don’t know what charity is.

    But then again, I am not a new world order type going around worrying about what people do in their own country and saving the world. Rabid dogs come in many breeds. If you let any one of those rabid dogs into your home, whose fault is that.

    In other words, I am not worried about my neighbors porch. I am worried about my porch. My porch is America. Some day, maybe, who knows… we’ll clean it and won’t have to worry so much about rabid dogs of many breeds coming into our home and tearing it up… because we won’t let them in. As you can see, in many Europeon countries, multiculturalism is a scam. A false pretense. And it ain’t just Islamists. But then again, not all Muslims have a desire to strap on a bomb and suicide you or force you to bugger sheep, goats and a occasionally camel, or force your wives to cut off their clitoris, or force you to marry 9 year old little girls.

    Meh. Boo. Shit… we’re to busy puffing up our chests and slapping the Boo-slims around, maybe one day we’ll find the time to clean our own house. Ya know, direct some of that energy in our own front lawn?

  94. I was flipping around youtube listening to music while I still can… when I came across this..

  95. Cassandra (of Troy)


    Instead of relying on various shopworn descriptives of Jewish perfidy, I developed a single one-size-fits-all explanatory acronym that cuts down on verbiage & unnecessary mental gymnastics.:

    I.D.D.J./It’s Dem Dam Jooz

    Easy to remember, comprehensive, falsely innocuous when used in its original form, & can be readily modified to fit other groups. You & everyone else can feel free to appropriate it for use & thereby save time/effort.


    Cassandra (of Troy)

  96. Cassandra (of Troy)


    “I am……informant/provocateur.”

    Your confessional omitted your crypto-lesbianism & fatty foods fetish, then there’s that corn eating thing you kinda ‘forgot’ to mention. Given those ‘oversights’, one wonders what other darknesses lie undiscovered waiting to burst forth……

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  97. How about a Communist?

  98. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Nubbing Fingered Jake Roedel/2Dec12@02:26,

    “As a White Racialist”

    Given that self-revelatory proclamation, perhaps you’re bold enough to answer 2 questions that aryangoddess/similar have so far been loath to respond to,:

    1. Are you an adherent to the ‘one drop rule’?
    2. If you are, what will you/similar do about the millions of ‘racial mongrels’ like me?

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  99. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Arctic Patriot/2Dec12@11:40,

    “Am I the only one who sees this hypocrisy?”

    No, AP, you aren’t, & that’s not the only pot & kettle hypocrisy the House of Judah’s guilty of as the following shows.:

    Israel enacts law allowing authorities to detain illegal migrants for up to 3 years
    (What’s that again about America’s immigration laws/procedures being racist & inhumane?)

    MK Ben Ari rips up New Testament
    (From WND)

    Christian MK calls for legal action against Ben-Ari
    (Anyone know why the above insult to Christianity’s deemed unworthy of comment while Terry Jones’ Koran burning’s considered an ‘outrageous act of intolerance’?)

    Anti-Christian Hate Speech Spews From The Palm Beach Dem Chair
    (But don’t ANYONE say ANYTHING even slightly unfavorable about Judaism EVER, unless one’s Jewish, that is, excluding Norman Finkelstein & some at J Street of course)

    Jewish hostility to Christians: the prejudice no one ever writes about
    (All that’s needed to get the ShalomTV folks & Alan dershowitz foaming is to mention proselytizing &/or Jews For Jesus)

    Why Don’t Jews Like the Christians Who Like Them?

    Jews Cast Wary Eye on Evangelicals
    (Pattern, what pattern?)

    And if the previous isn’t problematic enough, there’s the following Argentinosauri in the Jew’s studio apartment bathroom that mustn’t be noticed.:

    Why were there so many Jews in SDS?

    Jews, Jewish Leftists, and the Anti-Semitic Left

    Ethiopian activists furious over Landver comments

    Anti-racism activists call on PM, gov’t to ‘wake up’

    Ethiopians call on US Jews to fight racism in Israel

    ‘US Jewry unlikely to act on anti-Ethiopian racism’
    (The Ethiopian stories are fun in that they not only simultaneously expose the hypocritical sanctimony of Israeli/American Jews & American blacks about racism but also pose problems for such as aryangoddess/NFJR/Henry/similar about who to root for/against given their views on ‘race’ & religion)

    That’s enough to adequately make what I believe is your point about hypocrisy which imo is also that of Romans 3:23, Matthew 7:3-5, & John 8:32.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  100. Regarding the latest dribble from Mr. Klein I agree wholeheartedly with Aesop re: Klein.

    Klein is a fellow that when presented facts will still tell you he is correct; everyone else is full-of-it. I gave up on trying to reason with Klein a few weeks ago. Road tolls came up in a back/forth with Klein. Klein argued a toll is not a tax. I gave Klein the Websters definition of toll….that it IS a tax. Klein’s reply….”no it is not a tax”.

    Arguing or trying to reason with Klein is impossible. Ol’ Jimbo will argue simple definitions of four letter words akin to Bubba Clinton’s impeachment argument of arrogantly asking “what’s the definition of the word is ?”

    Klein may periodically have an epiphany and state something sensible. But overall Klein is a waste of bandwith.


  101. Hmmmm….I like the pistol question. But if you want to go with .45 ACP I’d go with the 1911s….Colt or Remington. Buy the American product not the Austrian.

    I would suggest you look at the Kimber line of 1911s made in Yonkers, NY. Their customer service is excellent as are their pistols.


  102. Cassandra (of Troy)


    Given those 3 groups well known business acumen, formidable haggling skills, & their ability to contort language w/ an alacrity that’d make a high level diplomat or lawyer turn solidly jadeitic, such a contest would truly be worthy of a planetary PPV promotion. The taxes alone on the take might just be enough to pay off the world’s entire debts w/ the interest on the principal simultaneously financing the (American only, naturally) exploitation of the asteroid belt & the colonization of Luna & Mars. If they can still be found, some old-style Scots or Swiss would be needed to manage the funds as they’re past masters at such & have reputations for probity that’re unmatched in that field.

    Waddaya think, CA, sound like a plan to you or what?

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  103. You’re right.

    Corn eater it is.


  104. I can respect that position.

    And I did know what sysop means.

    The underbelly comment rubbed me the wrong way. Still does.

    But my apology stands.

    Tx GS.

  105. B/USA, you read an awful lot into the few words I typed and made a lot of assumptions.
    “… not all Muslims will go to hell.”
    Are you sure you don’t need to read your Bible more and contrast and compare it to the Koran’s stated beliefs????

  106. JK, the difference is in the stated beliefs of each group and the fear that the adherent will act on those beliefs.
    Sudden instant jihad is a terrible thing.

  107. The Zionist problem is discussed more often and with more intensity in Ha’aretz, the largest paper in Israel, that it is in the US. That alone should tell folks something.


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  109. Pat, you seem to harbor anti Israel/Zionist views. My guess is that you are not a fan of the Jewish people. Am I wrong?


  111. That’s fine, SNK; I’m not here to defend Muslims or Jews or Christians or atheists. I see nothing but individuals out there.

    The real physical threat of Islam doesn’t have much to do with whether or not people are allowed to write whatever trash they wish on a blog.

    And that in turn has nothing to do with CA running his blog in whatever way he wishes. Everyone yaps about a circular firing squad, from the position of a circular firing squad.

  112. “Are Jews perfect? Not by a long shot. But they are light years better than Muslims.” -SameNoKami | December 2, 2012 at 18:02


    If we look at societies where Jews live, and their social/academic/technological/economic performance in them, none has surpassed Western Civilization, specifically post-WWI USA. One would think that Jews (with a much higher average IQ and religious requirement for literacy) would figure this out and be the most-aggressive defenders and leaders of that host-civilization, and a fraction are (JFPO, IDF, some individuals and families, et al.).

    The message of “never again” excessively depends on feminizing and intellectually diminishing the host civilization, rather than maximizing performance in the society / economy by everyone. It seems to me that the result will be a big overshoot of “ethnic cleansing” that will be ugly and excessive while allowing some of the worst to slip away.

    I know the corner where I sit in the Bracken Cube. It’s not good.

  113. But…but…but…FIRST AMENDMENT….

    I love it when ass-clowns invoke the 1st Amendment regarding someone else’s exercise thereof.

    The text of the 1st Amendment begins thusly: “Congress shall make no law…”

    Didn’t know you were a member of that august body, CA. Congrats. Now maybe we can clean up that cesspool and den of iniquity.

  114. Battlefield USA

    Gawd. What I said was, since you are dense, is that at the moment of Christs coming, many… not all, Muslims will see Christ and worship Him. Just like many unbelievers and atheists. Just like many Jews who rejected their Messiah over 2 thousand years ago and still do today. Hindus. What-not. It has NOTHING to do with “the Koran’s stated beliefs” anymore than the Jewish belief that Jesus Christ was not their Messiah and rejected Him. The veil will be removed from peoples face once and for all… but still, many will still choose to reject him… even “Christians” and “Jews”… Atheists, Hindus, Muslims, Americans, and etc.

  115. I hope you ban the Odinists too.

  116. Yup, and Major Nidal Hasan was just an Army psychologist. The problem is, the religion itself is like a petri dish for murderers, rapists, pedophiles, etc. Islam is the antithesis of individualism.

  117. This is one more reason why CA’s blog is head and shoulders above most of the other Patriot sites.

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  119. Dan, you’ve already admitted several times that you’re not able to distinguish between a fee paid for using someone’s property versus a tax enforced at the point of a gun. I can’t imagine there’s a reader here who doesn’t believe you already.

    Meanwhile, to the topic at hand, my only point was that I don’t think limiting points of view is a good way to have the free flow of ideas in order that rational men may distinguish the true from false. I have no idea how it turned into a discussion of the threat of islamo-nutcasism.

    You see, Dan, once there’s a ban on idiotic statements about Jews or anyone else, there might come to be a ban on the idiotic idea that a toll for using someone’s private property, is the same as a tax.

    Now THAT one you’d be against, right?

  120. Don’t use a capital “I” in islam. It’s insulting to the letter “I”. Treat the P.O.S. movement as it should be……Without Respect.

  121. A Muslim is a believer and follower of the Koran and Mohammed. Muslims are not believers in the Divinity of Christ and see no need to accept Him as Saviour since in their view Jesus was just one of their prophets and Mohammed is superior to Him.
    Most Biblical commentators view the 2nd coming as a Jewish event not a do-over for everybody else. Not too difficult to believe in the King of Kings and Lord of Lords when you stand face to face w/Him. Kinda rules out faith in Him at that point. So the Muslims at that point are toast just as they are now. You cannot be a follower of Mohammed and Christ both equally and at the same time.
    I may be dense but stupid I ain’t.
    And I said semi-bastard. If ur gonna blast me, at least quote me correctly.

  122. JK sez ” I see nothing but individuals.”
    Keep an extra eye on the Muslim individuals.

  123. Jimbo….not wasting bandwith arguing with you. A toll IS a tax. That is pretty damn difficult for an ideologue to comprehend. Hard to believe.


  124. Cassandra (of Troy)



    Cassandra (of Troy)

  125. “I don’t give one goddamn about any muslim’s and as long as they leave me alone we can live in peace.”

    – And therein lies the problem.
    The Muslim will never let anyone who is not a Muslim “of their sect” live in peace, let alone an “infidel”. Even if they classify you as one of the “people of the Book”, you will still be a second class, less than human something to them, and be required to pay the Jizyah, a tax paid by non-Muslims living in Islamic lands, paid to the Islamic state. Islam’s entire push is to force the inhabitants of the earth to “Submit”, which is the direct translation of the word ‘Islam’.
    There is no peace with Islam. “Coexist” to the Muslim is “Submission”. The 800 – 900 Banu Qurayza Jews who surrendered unconditionally to Mohammad in 627 AD were beheaded because they would not convert to Islam. Mohammad then took an additional wife for himself from the ranks of the newly widowed….and we know all “good Muslims” pattern their lives after their role model Mohammad.

    Religion of Peace?
    Here is a quote from the “Muslim Brotherhood” concerning North America:

    “The process of settlement (in North America) is a “Civilization-Jihadist Process” with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah’s religion is made victorious over all other religions. Without this level of understanding, we are not up to this challenge and have not prepared ourselves for Jihad yet. It is a Muslim’s destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny.”
    End quote.

    Religion of Peace indeed.

  126. Cassandra (of Troy)

    RE: ‘The Elites’

    The following is yet more testimony against them/their viewpoint.:

    The Temptation of Babel

    The Governing Class and the Decline of America

    The Psychopathology of the Liberal Mind

    And here’s some follow-ons to the 3d article.:

    Pathological Altruism

    The Servile Mind: How Democracy Erodes the Moral Life

    Life at the Bottom: The Worldview that Makes the Underclass

    Many read books, I tend toward tomes like the above & worse. Such is the lot of a perpetual student.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  127. Cassandra (of Troy)

    The Trainer/2Dec12@19:36,

    Knowing the sexual proclivities (zoophilia, pedophilia, etc.) of the ‘elites’, engaging in epidermal union w/ same for any reason sounds too much like rewarding them for their perversity. UIM, the response CA proposes is more of a chemo-metallic one & if so is sound economic, medical, & moral practice. That being said, it’s incumbent upon those availing themselves of that response to remember that the rules of hygiene are also applicable in order to preclude unnecessary degradation of one’s equipage.

    “Keep it CLEAN!” is always good advice.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  128. Truly so, Chuck, but then being “the antithesis of individualism” is hardly reserved for Muslims. My wife and I had a long conversation recently with a Muslim specialist who performed a procedure. Philosophically he’s a nutcase IMO, and pretty much a pacifist to boot…some odd sect or something. Further, in complete denial of the worth of self, so you can imagine how he and I hit it off.

    So what’s the point, exactly? Should he be tried and maybe punished for his beliefs? Should he be forcefully prohibited from holding them? Should he be smacked for even uttering them?

    This is not comparable to either making a threat or even holding a belief that will lead to danger for others, which many Muslims do indeed have. If a guy’s a threat, then he’s a threat. You can’t tell by his height, his hair color, his race nor necessarily his religion. There are no “necessarilys” when it comes to humans.

    If people don’t understand that this is how antisemitism–or any other sort of bigotry–started in the first place, then I hardly know how to help them. The battle has ALWAYS been individualism versus collectivism.

  129. “With this said, CA’s policy is right simply because there seem to be no people around who have the knowledge and the psychological balance to do this analysis correctly and truthfully, so commenters usually prattle nonsense…”

    Uh-oh…that’s an argument for why the policy is wrong, not right. If it were right, then blogspot and wordpress would be out of business! The only argument would be that there should be one particular exception for one particular group, or in this case one particular type of group. As you know, that would be a very tough argument to sensibly defend.

    Let’s face it…if not prattling nonsense were a standard, it would be a very quiet world. It seems obvious to me that it’s a tough enough chore dealing with those who do more than prattle. I’m pretty sure that’s the point of this blog, which is why I’m pointing it out.

  130. My last comment:Anyone know where Wyat Earp is buried? in a Jewish Cemarty in San Jose, California

  131. Cassandra (of Troy)


    Your point about Islam’s ethos is dead on & is amplified in Walid Shoebat’s Why We Want to Kill You & similar examinations of that religion, but Islam isn’t alone in its desire to purge ‘infidels’ as the Hindutva movement & Sangh Parivar in India prove.

    Last Days Express arriving on Track 666, All ABOOOOOARD!

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  132. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Old Gringo/2Dec12@05:44,


    Such has happened before, OG, look up Janissary. While not Jewish, they by all accounts fit your definition & recall also that their Euro-Islamic descendants are members of Salafist outfits as are numerous ‘white’ Americans many of whom aren’t converts but Leftists who agree that America must be destroyed. It’ll be interesting to see how both will fare if the system that’s currently protecting them succumbs to a sustained Interruption Of Service.

    That alone should make one become serious about improving one’s amelioration capabilities, n’est pas Viejo Grande?

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  133. I think you are being Hypocritical. Disliking Individuals and the EVIL they do is totally different than destroying a group of Individuals because they believe in something different.

    IE Christianity , Buddha.

    Already one post has been deleted I assume this one will be too.
    I know 4 Jews 2 I would die to protect and 2 I would not, Those are the Commies who live next door to me.
    So does that make me an Anti-Semite? .They are avowed communists and happy to give obama another 4. Plus another 4, the constitution means nothing.

    Communist has Killed far more than Pis-lam. They are much better at it.
    Cambodia ring a bell ,Ukraine’s starvation. Islam is a Parasitic Organism.
    Communism Is a power mad evil. Both Deserve to DIE. So what do we do.

    Kill them all and Let the Lord Sort them OUT or Ban whom we consider Anti-Semites, Why have we heard nothing but Hitler for Years he is dead and gone . But commies and Muzzies remain. Why not 50 years of Katyn Province. I do not really Car. Now it is too late.

    Judge not lest ye be judged, but evil is evil and it must be destroyed or we will.

    Like Edmond Burke said. Evil has won and now they are taking over.

    Look at the 2 smiling Traitors, McCain and Kerry.

    Good bye US military.

    I could tell you about the many talks my jewish friends have had but that would take weeks
    One Jew even believes in Our Lord. You should ask him about the prejucice he recieves from his own.
    What is that Called., ANTI-ANTI-SEMITISM?

  134. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Jim Klein/2Dec12@11:48,

    You were doing fine until the first line of pgh 7,: There can be no givens/etc. For that to be true would invalidate all that came before/after as they constitute the very things that aren’t supposed to exist. To further deteriorate what I assume is a favorable disposition toward me, be advised that there’re some things that imo are verboten from the git go. Bestiality & pedophilia (a term I’ve always found confusing as it appears to connote foot fetishism instead of kiddie diddling) are 2 practices that violate my personal threshold.

    I know, I know, animals aren’t people & are exploited for various purposes including being specifically raised for sexual activity w/ humans, but my laissez-faire isn’t endless & the aforementioned acts along w/ certain others will cause me to take action to prevent/stop them. Hypocritical? Yep, but I know it, & that knowledge forces me to keep it within very strict boundaries in order to retain a semblance of intellectual integrity.

    And it ain’t easy.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  135. Cassandra (of Troy)

    JM JOHNSON/2Dec12@10:51,
    RE: .45ACP pistols

    Before anything else, what’s your price range? That’s a pretty good starting point as it determines your options. Another factor would be your material preference, i.e., all steel, steel/aluminum, steel/plastic, & one more is what system (single action only, single/double action, double action only) you like. After that things get easy.

    Hope that helps.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

  136. “Keep an extra eye on the Muslim individuals.”
    MRSA, like Major Nidal Hassan, is lurking unseen and is deadly wherever it is found. It cannot be converted to any useful purpose.
    Nidal and his brothers are fulfilling the Muslim Brotherhood “Civilization-Jihadist Process” as stated in their policy; “It is a Muslim’s destiny to perform Jihad and work wherever he is and wherever he lands until the final hour comes, and there is no escape from that destiny.”
    There is no such thing as a “moderate” Muslim.

  137. P.S I believe in White supremacy too, Since the Jews are white I guess they get to come too.
    I also believe in Yellow Supremacy or Red whatever it takes to make us closer to the LORD… and a Better People.

    Evil on the other hand belongs in the gutter of Hell, where we should be planning to attack it and send it there.

    Remember Our Duty and Right and to do so.
    Plus I am sure the LORD will be a bit mad if we let them exterminate our children. That is what our forefathers did and so shall we. Sooner rather than later. Time for talk is done, our ff would have been long battling or dead. Time we met at Gettysburg and then Took D.C.

    Or we can wait till they kill more ambassadors and watch our Men get snuffed on TV.

  138. If someone can summarize in a sentence or three what exactly the point and message is of any one of Takuan Seiyo’s articles, I’d be grateful. It was when I realized I couldn’t do that, and that whatever the message might be was lost in the flood of words, that I stopped reading him. It was when he deliberately asserted in a comment thread discussion that I’d said the exact opposite of what I had actually said, in order to brand me with his nazizoidist label, that I stopped considering him to be on the side of the angels. It was when he deliberately and repeatedly refused to engage in the sort of deliberate discussion of facts CA has advocated in the past, preferring instead to assert blanket guilt and self-destructiveness on the part of a people he evidently considers not his own, that I stopped much caring what he has to say about anything. He is a deeply dishonest man.

    There certainly are those who assert things about the Jews without providing sufficient evidence. There are also those who draw conclusions from facts in evidence that I don’t find sufficiently justified. This does not make reasonable and sane discussions of the matter impossible. In the GoV discussions he references, it would have been entirely possible to say “I don’t want to discuss that here, and I’m not going to” or “I don’t consider those facts to be a major factor, for such and such reasons.” This is not what was done. Instead he went from zero to nuclear and full insult. “Oh, but he’s so tired of the constant unreasonable attacks!” Stop making excuses for him. I’m part French, I’ve been hearing my nation – a nation with far more qualities than America and Americans have ever displayed, and which has earned my loyalty in ways the USA hasn’t even tried – insulted and demeaned pretty much my entire life, and currently I get to watch the French population being systematically replaced by Muslim Arabs while “genocide” is something only Jews are allowed to own, and I generally manage to keep my mouth shut about it, or to discuss the matter peacably when the occasion arises. There is no right to be free from insult, even for Jews.

    “The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you.” It takes a conscious act of will to NOT notice the applicability of this phrase to repeated actions by Jewish people, including Seiyo himself as I mentioned earlier. Just a couple weeks ago, a Quebec radio host, talking with a Muslim caller, mentioned that he wouldn’t be able to say the same things the caller was because speaking too loudly on certain topics gets one in trouble with the Jews. The local Jewish organization promptly called for him to be sacked. What exactly are they trying to prove? Rick Sanchez claimed Jews have a lot of power at CNN; they promptly demonstrated their … LACK of power? – by getting him fired. A Jewish journalist went looking for non-Jews in positions of power in Hollywood; he found six, one of which turned out to be Jewish after all. I could go on all day, but that’s not the point – the point is that there is measurable evidence and facts concerning hypocrisy and power and Jewish reactions to taking note of these facts, and that the only response ever made to this by the pro-Jewish side of any argument is precisely the dishonest and hypocritical one that CA made: ridicule, and a refusal to actually address any facts, either by refusing to bring them up or refusing to engage in discussion on the topic by ruling it out of bounds.

  139. Ok, that for the Jews. To the broader point, of nazis/communists/whatever stabbing themselves with bayonets. Fuck you, you old loser. The world we are living in today is the direct and linear result of the victory in 1945. It is a world created by the victors of 1945. It is designed and run according to their principles, and implements many of the goals they explicitly advocated. Everything that is happening today, from the Muslim rape gangs in European suburbs to English nationalists getting locked up in an Orwellian manner to the TSA accustoming “born free” citizens to having their daughters’ breasts groped to Congress fuming impotently at its bureaucracy and not firing it to the massive taxation increases on the most productive to the dissolving of sovereignty in international bureaucracies to the American presidency becoming a thing to be bought and used in a manner directly contrary to the expressed wishes of the people and in fact the general trend of governments everywhere in the white nations deliberately persisting in courses of actions their people repeatedly object to but don’t seem to have the ability to stop – every bit of this is the legacy of the victors of 1945. It is their doing, their responsibility, their worldview brought to life.

    IN 1945, THE BAD GUYS WON.

    Every single man who has fought and bled in the service of the victors of 1945 and their inheritors has fought and bled in the service of evil.

    Maybe the other side were bad guys also. Maybe they weren’t. I’m not saying they didn’t kill a lot of people – I do say genocide is justified at times, depending on perspective, in the same way that killing a man is justified at times – depending on perspective. Nobody wants to die, but irreconcilable differences exist. I also know this much: the victor writes the history books, the victor always makes the other side out to be worse than they actually were while hiding its own misdeeds, and in this case, the victors have been proven BY THEIR OWN ACTIONS to be civilization- and nation-destroying oathbreaking scumbags. I also know that the people running things right now lie like they breathe; from carbohydrates to cholesterol to equality to finance to genetics to who voted when and where to what actually happened in any given foreign policy crisis to what gets reported and what gets suppressed in the newspapers and talking-head shows each day.

    NOTHING I am told by this system and this society is to be trusted. If they say the sky is blue, I will walk outside to check for myself.

    EVERYTHING is on the table.

    That includes Hitler.

    He may have been wrong about some things. He may have been wrong about a lot of things. Based on the reading I’ve done so far, there certainly were things he didn’t get right. There were certainly also things that he did.

    Have YOU read Mein Kampf, or Table Talk? (I haven’t, yet.) Do you really trust what you’re told about it, when the same people give you Tina Fey saying “I can see Russia from my house!”, and Obama insisting he did so call it a terrorist attack?

    Do you really have to have it explained to you, again, that you’re being lied to?

    “Oh, but they wouldn’t lie about THAT!”

    There’s a funny thing about the “Big Lie”. People talk about it in the context of the Nazis, as a Nazi propaganda tactic. In fact, it was a Nazi ACCUSATION. The Nazis were saying that their enemies were telling gigantic monstrous lies that nobody would even think to disbelieve. They never advocated it as something for their own propaganda to engage in. But that’s not how it is remembered. The “Big Lie” has itself become a Big Lie.

  140. Finally, a quote.

    “The fundamental realization of the Dark Enlightenment is that all men are not created equal, not individual men, nor the various groups and categories of men, nor are women equal to men, that these beliefs and others like them are religious beliefs, that society is just as religious as ever it was, with an official state religion of progressivism, but this is a new religion, an evil religion, and, if you are a Christian, a demonic religion.

    The Dark Enlightenment does not propose that leftism went wrong four years ago, or ten years ago, but that it was fundamentally and terribly wrong a couple of centuries ago, and we have been heading to hell in a handbasket ever since at a rapidly increasing rate – that the enlightenment was dangerously optimistic about humans, human nature, and the state, that it is another good news religion, telling us what we wish to hear, but about this world instead of the next.”

    Billy Beck is to me a tragic and self-destructive figure, because these are the truths he desperately does not want to know. He is to me the pre-eminent symbol of the entire later Enlightenment era, of American individualists and constitutionalists, of true believers in “American exceptionalism” (which in their already-corrupted doublethink is something anybody can be a part of). He, and the intellectual movement he advocates, is admirable for the ideals espoused, but deeply wrong when it comes to reality – wrong in a way that makes any accomplishments for his cause over into inevitably perverted tools of evil. Classical liberalism is not a stable state: it always moves left. Conservatism is not an actual opposition, but a controlled tool, giving way at a steady measured pace.

    I understand that “going along to get along” is a factor, and that one can’t just tell the broad public that everything they think they know is wrong, follow me into fire, into storm, into darkness, into death. I understand that the reality of society as it currently exists means that talking about Jews incurs a terrible cost and relentless attacks on whatever one is trying to do. I understand picking one’s battles. But there is picking battles, and there is taking sides, and they are not the same.

    The ideals of old-skool America espoused here are admirable, but they are part and parcel of the problem. They are self-defeating and futile. They cannot recreate anything that has been lost, nor will they form a stable foundation for any society with a future, no more so than a house can be built by an engineer insisting that all construction materials have equal physical properties. As long as these false principles are clung to, destruction and failure will attend them.

    We are not Jedi, we are Sith. The Jedi have lost their way, and we understand the truth both of their now-perverted ideals and the reality underlying them better than they ever did.

    That is why we will win.

  141. Jim,

    My point is that you equate a serial killer who happened to be a Jew with a hypothetical muslim doctor. I pointed out, apparently not very effectively, that in the case of the muslim doctor, it’s actually the religion that contributed to his mass murder. I’m not sure you can make that case with Berkowitz.

    My distaste for islam (as opposed to muslims, many of whom are actually fine people) is predicated on the murderous ideology that is at the core of the so-called “religion of peace.”

    I’m not advocating, in any way shape or form, rounding up, killing, or otherwise harming muslims in any way, shape or form. Leave them the hell alone; this is still America, or what’s left of it. All I’m saying, after having spent a little time in the two sandboxes among muslims in their native environment, is don’t trust any of them any farther than you can throw them. And since many of them are scrawny little bastards, perhaps not even that far.

    We know islam is, and always has been, at war with western civilization and the judeo-christian tradition, so why pretend otherwise? CA merely calls it as he sees it. A spade is a spade, a Jew is a Jew, if it quacks it’s probably a duck, and there’s a good chance your muslim neighbor fantasizes about strapping a bomb to his chest and detonating himself at the local Wal Mart. He probably won’t do it, but there is something really wrong with a religion and culture that fosters that kind of thinking.

  142. I wonder what he would think about me? I’m American Indian/German/Scottish.

    ‘racialist’ . Just another racist.

    white racist, or any other color racist. Lump them all in the same boat. Just another bunch of wanna be dictators.

  143. Citations, sir?

    Also, did you actually read the linked Seiyo articles?

    Thank you for voicing your predispositions as well.

  144. Rollory said:

    “I do say genocide is justified at times, depending on perspective, in the same way that killing a man is justified at times – depending on perspective.”

    Are you fucking kidding me?

  145. THIS THREAD GETS 140+ comments?
    Really? This thread?
    CA should not even have to post this kind of statement. It should be fairly obvious to anyone above room temp that this is the posiition. The fact that so many of you busted a gut to comment on this and waste so much verbage gives a good indication as to the current state of affairs.

    Shut the fuck up and get back to work.
    The past three weeks have been mired in complete bullshit. Endless debates about topics and ideas that should be settled material.
    Complete derailing of topics that should be discussed in detail.
    We can put aside this bullshit and talk about important things or we will have all the time in the world to discuss them when we are sitting around the internment camp.

    We all want to be free and there are those that oppose that, they are the enemy and we should kill them.
    Thats it. Thats the philosophy. Get the fuck behind it or get gone. Period. No more stupid.

  146. Dan, you haven’t seen the current production QC (actually lack thereof) like I have. Kimber has fallen way down the ladder as far as I’m concerned from their early glory days.
    If I was to get a 1911, I’d get one of the SIGs.

  147. “My point is that you equate a serial killer who happened to be a Jew with a hypothetical muslim doctor.”

    I don’t ever equate two of anything, least of all two humans.

    “…it’s actually the religion that contributed to his mass murder. I’m not sure you can make that case with Berkowitz.”

    I’m not sure you can’t, but who cares? What if you could make that case…what then? Nearly every mass murderer drank milk as a child, so what? Even if you COULD prove causation in the islam case, WHAT WOULD YOU PROPOSE TO DO ABOUT IT?

    Collectivism and democracy are direct and provable causes of tyranny. So is there a muster this afternoon or something?

    You pointed out that Islam is a like a “petri dish” for something rotten. Okay, but therefore what? And what about the case that someone has, that judaism is a “petri dish” for something else rotten? Now you’ll wanna compare what each is a petri dish for, and on and on.

    I don’t know how this turned into a discussion about islam, but hopefully it’s a little clearer by now why I strongly believe any person should be able to make any case about anything, that they wish.

  148. “I do say genocide is justified at times”

    Well, thanks for making me look so foolish about my position here. I still stand by it though, sick as this is.

    Not everything you wrote was crazy, but this sure ’nuff is. Interestingly, it’s not that far off the case others are making about islamic cultures. So instead of focusing on how crazy this belief of yours is, maybe they’ll give a moment or two to their own. This doesn’t deserve a moment’s notice…”genocide” and “justified” are, in some relevant ways, opposites.

  149. It has not all been BS, but after you remove the Ego and Emotions it is pretty simple seeming is it not.
    Sometimes it is very tough to do. That is why our country is in peril.
    We have always known what to do, you do not make enemies. You dispose of them. You do not breed them or import them or feed them or teach them.

    We have lacked the balls to kill the enemy for a long time. Now they are among us Big Time,

    Simple isn’t it! But we still lack the Do capability.

  150. I think you misunderstand/misrepresent Billy Beck’s position/beliefs. I read him to be an extreme libertarian/anarchist, not a collectivist of the Republican flavor whose desired society looks like a Norman Rockwell painting.

    I agree with you that limited government is unstable, a fantasy, and decays to communism/fascism. I don’t agree with you that Billy Beck advocates limited government.

  151. “It has not all been BS, but after you remove the Ego and Emotions it is pretty simple seeming is it not.”

    Lovely sentiment, I’m sure, but if you actually and literally removed the Ego(s), there’d be nothing here but a blank page.

    Yeah, I know…”Check. Now let’s move on.” And then everyone moves on as if it weren’t true.

  152. Proselytizing for individualism is like fucking for chastity: the minute I or anyone agrees with you, you become a new thought collective.

    I think the apparent confusion arises from multiple definitions for ‘collectivism’. “Two people voluntarily deciding they agree on principles and plans”(1) is different from “one person forcing another to convert to his religion”(2). Klein is promoting meaning (1), Aesop is claiming Klein’s (1) is the same as (2). It isn’t.

  153. – And therein lies the problem.

    I see no problem there.
    When they attack me there will be a big problem, for the attacker.
    Until then it’s just bullshit.

  154. I’m far more concerned about gov’t thugs than any religious nut.

  155. Just saw this, C. You’re not talking about literal “givens,” though. They’re “as good as given.” If I asked you, “Why,” you’d have a thorough answer appealing to facts and other principles. This is as distinct from an axiomatic statement, which is often self-evident and always without appeal to any higher principle. If it were, then it wouldn’t be an axiom, duh.

    Cognitively, the goal is to have as few “givens” like these as possible, since they’re not built directly of appeal to reality. If “A is A” isn’t given, then everything of what we see and know, is subject to doubt. And even if you think doubt is a good thing, they’d be subject to possibly having no correlation at all to reality. That is, unlike the rest of our (non-faith) knowledge, a “given” is not literally a piece of identification, even though it serves as one.

    I don’t like speaking for other people, but I’m bettin’ you’re not a pedophile for reasons other than it’s “given.” That would be a weak reason if you think about it, able to be replaced with any other given. Indeed, that must be how they do it. I don’t know what given they use, but there’s got to be some terrible one in there somewhere, probably that they’re something other than a single free-willed human being, not to mention maybe the same belief of their victim. I don’t know, but there’s some screwy given in there somewhere, for which they could not sensibly answer, “Why?”

    Hmm, sounds like a lesson.

  156. “Proselytizing for individualism is like fucking for chastity.”

    “Using the handle ‘Aesop’ is like robbing a liquor store.”

    Oh, no wonder you argue like this. It’s so easy.

  157. “I’m far more concerned about gov’t thugs…”
    Uh….yes. I would say that one is in the forefront…
    Both groups have demonstrated the propensity to violate the human race by whatever means they thought necessary. And when the cameras aren’t rolling the .gov will do even for their own entertainment, whereas the Islamic thugs enjoy having a camera on them to strike fear in the hearts of the sheeple. Come to think of it, Waco was televised…

  158. Sig 1911s are so well made it’s scary. Great pistols. I am a gunsmith and have never had to work on one. The Ruger 1911 is very good as well, as are those by Smith and Wesson. There are many good ones because the design is 100 years along and very well understood. You could say it has been proven…. They work and it takes pretty obviously shoddy manufacture to make a bad one.

    Agree on Kimber. Sad.