Mosby: Developing a Pre-Disposition For Effective Violence

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Essential information on developing the proper mindset.

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18 responses to “Mosby: Developing a Pre-Disposition For Effective Violence

  1. Kevin 3%

    If you engage in a knife fight holding your weapon in that fashion you will lose. Bad graphic!

    • That’s the bad guy, over whom you will triumph due to your warrior mindset.

      • Kevin 3%

        roger that!

        and it is a good point that there are men among FREEFOR who possess the true warrior mindset. OPFOR is populated with fat doughnut eating slobs, many of whom will crumble at the first sight of their brothers in blue with slit throats.

    • Jimmy the Saint

      If you engage in a knife fight, your planning sucks. Better to just engage in a stabbing. 🙂

      • Cassandra (of Troy)

        Jimmy the Saint/07May14@17:18,

        Preferably from behind w/ at least something appropriately lengthy like a good spear, the modern projectile based method’s much better generally but less psychologically satisfying for some.

        Can’t make everybody happy, can we.
        ;~>

        Cassandra (of Troy)

  2. Marlo Stanfield

    A few years go I came across a book written by Sgt Rory Miller, it was a real eye opener on how criminals/people really come at you. Changed my mind from jogging mode to back alley sprinter. Hammerless snubs and push daggers and small fixed blade knives started to make sense.

  3. DWEEZIL THE WEASEL

    A good video on this subject is titled: “SURVIVING EDGED WEAPONS”. It will scare the peanuts out of your M&Ms.

  4. Mosby is correct. One of the definitive characteristics of the human predator is the lack of biological inhibitors against lethal intra-species violence. Even now it is daily struggle to avoid going proactive re the local collectivists. Eventually I will tire of this struggle, and relax into fun mode.

    • Cassandra (of Troy)

      StukaPilot/08May14@01:44,

      “Even now……fun mode.”

      Ain’t that the flamin’ God’s honest truth, it seems like every Damned DAY there’s more & more people who need to be extincted a year ago. They’re getting so numerous that I’m becoming convinced that there’s a string of factories somewhere cranking ’em out like Terminators, could also be a Body Snatchers thing. I dunno, might just be the ol’ years INcrease/BS toleration level DEcrease inverse ratio equation at work. Either way, it’s irmitatin’ & the urge to werewolf’s gettin’ more difficult to effectively restrain.

      Then again, the burgeoning of such creatures does afford the properly oriented Predator many recreational opportunities so it ain’t all bad izzit. Sharpen the fangs & claws, limber up the musculature, & w/ a trembling calm await the sound of the party horn.

      Cassandra (of Troy)

  5. I will always remember my first fight where I tried to practice what I had learned in my traditional hard/soft karate class. It was quite an eye opener for me. On the other hand that education helped me survive a different encounter with a boxer (damn those punches came quick lol, wasn’t even my fight). I still have a small scar where my tooth went through my lip.

    I don’t want to ever be in a knife fight, but these guys seem to have a pretty good perspective.

    1988 book “Put ‘Em Down, Take ‘Em Out!: Knife Fighting Techniques From Folsom Prison

    Read more: http://www.ehow.com/about_4685350_folsom-knife-fighting.html#ixzz317xwobK5

  6. in combat some people wont shoot espieal in their first fire fight.and it will surprise you who wont.i told my sf son this before he went to Iraq the first time he didn’t believe me.when he came home he told me I was right.im not sure why they wont fire some never doand some overcome their in hibitons.good training will overcome some of it..then the real hardcore inhibiton to overcome is the up close killing the bayonet the knife in hot anger then the worst is the coldblooded killing the sniper the garrote all thes take a certain internal anger that has to be developed in your guts as deaths and maiming are seen and experienced it becomes easyer when I saw a montanyard chief who had been tied up a slit cut in his stomach and his guts pulled out I became a murderous monster and killed easily from then on.humans are historicly killers its in our blood.as the state becomes more oppressive they will have to become more and more vicous and we will respond in kind. read a peom by kipling I think its called when a saxon gets angry it tells what will happen. I feel no guilt for the many I killed they needed killin so I killed them and that’s it. I will say this the ultimate form of courage is moral courge.to stand alone against the mob with only your beleifs to defend yourself that is true courage your friend truckwilkins

  7. Just fucking kill them, do it. It ain’t rocket science, and it’s easy. I haven’t killed anybody in years, but like fuckin’, once you know how, it’s easy to do. I always feel better, afterwards.

  8. Charles-Louis Secondat Baron de Montesquieu

    I read “On Killing” by Lt Col David Grossman and came up with similar concerns voiced by one of your students. I have never been in the military and wondered about how I would react if ever I am put in that situation. Discussed it with a retired SF guy I have done some training with and he said he really never saw that in troops with whom he worked. He trained indigenous forces to fight. But their missions were clearly defined.
    However, the real concern in a SHTF situation for someone with my experience would be over thinking a situation before pulling a trigger. And the fact that predators in such a situation would count on that.
    Scenario: I have sentry duty protecting the neighborhood. Someone is approaching with a gun – OK, if I were out I would be carrying a gun. I tell him to stop and lay it down – I wouldn’t if I were told to I would retreat and go into defense mode. So, do I shoot if he raises his gun – an action I certainly would do if someone challenged me with a gun and told me to drop it… see already over thinking it.

    • Cassandra (of Troy)

      M. le Baron Montesquieu/08May14@10:37,

      You & others may find the following helpful.:

      Ethics in America
      http://www.learner.org/resources/series81.html

      Episode 6 is the pertinent one & episode 7’s also good , both are excellent examinations of ethics in combat. Be advised that I only just found the link & haven’t tested it, so caveat utilitor.

      Bon jour, M. le Baron, auf wiedersehen.

      Cassandra (of Troy)

  9. Cassandra (of Troy)

    Good stuff well presented, interesting to find out that my scenario creation/examination habit’s recommended by yet another pro w/ Cooper & later Ayoob being the first & 2d ones. JM’s largely correct about the violence/killing aversion being cultural, but an aspect usually overlooked is the generally reflexive reaction to being injured/splattered by one’s opponent. That reflex can be effectively controlled by most after proper instruction & diligent practice, but ya gotta want to get there. One skill I’ve learned is to turn off certain ‘automatic’ responses such as the hammer tap knee & elbow jerk, luv to watch the doc’s puzzled reaction after they’ve done it 3-5 times & get nada then succeed after their final try & no I don’t tense/otherwise distort the muscles.

    The breathing control section’s good w/ the caveat being that one must praticepracticepractice until the procedure becomes semi-autonomic since one usually won’t have time to do it in combat, certain Chinese & Hindu regimens are helpful guides for achieving that state as is the study of Bushido but again they require serious dedication. Those 3 approaches are also valuable resources for learning ‘Zen level’ mental placidity & focus, my predisposition’s more toward Nippon w/ a heavy Sinic overlay which is likely due to having been around more of the first & 2d groups than the 3d.

    I’ve heard that the re-inforcing mental conversation JM writes of is good but I’ve always found such overt chatter distracting but again that’s me, I’ve probably done it for so long to become ingrained & thus unnoticeable. That kind of ‘Vulcan style’ automatic subconscious analysis can also be learned if one desires to put in the requisite effort, but be advised that as Molly Hatchet so wisely said, “it ain’t fa evabody” as some have that ability naturally & others won’t develop it no matter how mightily they struggle. Same same regarding killing, some actually are Natural Born (but non-psychopathic) Killers just like there are natural farmers/athletes/artists/etc. but they’re rare. Most folks have to be eased into the activity & require some kind of psychological assurance to be any good at it, but even then the majority will be subject to the consequences imposed by their philosophy & that internal flagellation’s intensifed (often destructively) by others whose approval’s valued by the person/s doing the bloodletting.

    Why people would feel that way toward those who’ve saved them’s beyond me but then there’s lots I just don’t get about people generally, the ingratitude of it’s what angers me deepest. Mayhap I’m simply too irredeemably ‘uncivilized’ to grasp the superiority of the ‘genteel’ attitudes displayed in the Two Rode Together reception & Demolition Man Taco Bell dinner scenes, to me those people should be slowly & carefully beaten to death.

    Cassandra (of Troy)

    • Jim Klein

      “Most folks have to be eased into the activity & require some kind of psychological assurance to be any good at it,”

      Ha, that makes it sound like most anything else—“Tell me it’s okay.” Probably explains why certain views and beliefs are so common across both sides.

      I liked the one comment—if there’s ever a time not to overthink, that’s gotta be it. That’s why simpletons like me prefer it so clear, that there’s no thinking about it at all.

      • Cassandra (of Troy)

        Jim Klein/08May14@18:07,

        “Ha,……okay.””

        That’s pretty much the way things usually are, from sex to triple chocolate sundaes to killing, most people need some kind of excusatory validation for their actions that also allows them psychological room to condemn others who don’t need that particular crutch. For a lengthier explanation see the scenes in The Mechanic where Bronson educates Jan-Michael Vincent on what being an independent operator means.

        “Probably……sides.”

        All humans have certain shared characteristics w/ predators & prey respectively having the most in common, even those in the middle have similarities one of which is that’s where many of the former & latter groups get their personnel. My experience’s that most of the predatory Left use frequently spurious emotion based justifications (“I’m being horribly oppressed/It’s all so UNFAIR/The deck’s stacked against me & I have NO OTHER CHOICE”/etc.) for doing what they want to do while those who tend toward ‘conservatism’ usually have to be pushed REAL hard before the fangs come out. There are exceptions, but that’s the general flow of events.

        “I liked……be it.”

        If you’re referring to what M. le Baron wrote you’re partially correct in that life’s filled w/ ambiguities & there’s nothing one can do about it save doing one’s best w/ what one has & hoping things turn out okay in the end. IOW, either grow accustomed to the taste of bitter waters or die of thirst. But that doesn’t mean that you have to be happy about the choice, however.

        “That’s why……at all.”

        2 points. First, you know better than to delude yourself like that as you’re well aware of the consequences of doing so & second, how often have you excoriated others for that very same ‘que sera sera’ attitude using language that was but a roundabout way of calling them moral cowards? I understand your/others conflicts & fears as well as the hunger for metaphysical clarity, but you’ve (unfortunately for you) demonstrated a comprehension of things amorphous & ephemeral thus becoming self-hoisted by your own petard. Shoulda hid your light under a bushel, JK, but ya didn’t & now It’s Too Late is blasting around in your skull & Capt. Mallory’s upbraiding you like you’re Cpl. Miller.

        Time to get your Stavrou on, JK, FDR’s gettin’ bored w/ your dans dilatoire & them toe/foot/leg muscles are fixin’ ta cramp up sumpin’ fierce, comprende, mein herr?

        Cassandra (of Troy)

        • Jim Klein

          I’m grateful for the advice and will spend some time figuring it out, but I think you miss an important point. Unlike for most people, the “que sera, sera” means something different to me. It’s less about what will happen from the outside, but rather whatever I cause to happen. In one’s own life, I take that as effectively axiomatic…so my point wasn’t that the consequences would be minimal, not at all, but that they would be wholly caused by me, at least within me. Like anything else.

          Same for you and every other person, of course, all appeals and protestations to the contrary notwithstanding. Alan, while he’s calling me a bastard, is trying to assert elsewhere that one can be “out of control,” aside from seizures or sleepwalking or being chained. I presume he’s trying to point out what the action of killing is like, much as you so eloquently do. That’s not under debate by me, as it’s an accurate description…that is, it’s true. But it’s still not an action that is “out of control.” Like EVERY drop of human action, it’s another action that ensues from a decision—choosing to be brutal, is still a choice. I’ve never understood why men of courage in action, particularly fighting action, are so resistant to facing this simple fact. Still don’t. The “no thinking” is about the action; it doesn’t imply that no thinking led to the action. Why does Alan, or anyone else, want to pretend otherwise? What absolution do they believe they’re giving themselves? Most importantly, WHY would a guy need absolution–a fantasy one yet–if he’s doing what he believes to be right?

          I’ve no idea whom you believe I was intimating as being “a moral coward.” About the only ones I believe to be like that–moral cowards anyway–are those who refuse to be honest.