High-End Glass Test

Tactical Scopes: Field Test Results Summary & Overall Scores

Good news?

There’ll be folks bringing these scopes and associated rigs to you.

After all, you and the rest of the tax cattle paid for them.

(H/t HPS)

10 responses to “High-End Glass Test

  1. No.

    I will never buy glass that is more than $500. My favorite sights are TechSights and Williams peeps, which **kill** all of the mentioned $1500+ scopes in the 2 features I care most about: durability and weight. At under 200M, fast hits are good hits, and I can’t see more than 50M unless it’s a recent clearcut.
    No comparison to good fixed 10×40 or 10x50mm? Huh. Could it be that really-really-good, very sturdy, low-mounting, non-zoom telescopes can be lighter/brighter/sharper & less complex to use, while being around the price of a bare .30 Savage (AccuTrigger!) at Bi-Mart? Regular folks buying with owned-money (not “agency funds” or “budgeted items”), and humping a weapon with feet will think a bunch of times before dropping the price of a used car on a scope.

    Oh yeah, they have $10,000 German rifles that they also did not buy from owned-funds.

    I don’t have to go to mandatory sexual-minority-correctness training. Plenty of time to train. Heh.

    • Atlas Shrug

      Hmm. Let’s see:

      “At under 200M, fast hits are good hits, and I can’t see more than 50M unless it’s a recent clearcut.”

      So your comparison is moot here. These scopes are all intended for uses far past such meager ranges.

      Just because YOU don’t see the need for this, does not mean that others don’t have the skills/means/desire/interest/patience to take advantage of this admittedly expensive technology. Also, you may have missed CA’s point that some of this nice glass may be delivered to me, you, and yours at a more kinetic point in the future – and it’s the same glass that we are paying for now via confiscatory taxes (I know, that last bit is redundant).

      And yes, these variables cost more than quality fixed 10x scopes, but they are far, far more versatile and thus useful. You support “special use” items when they fit you, but pooh-pooh special uses that you don’t partake in personally. To each his own. We’ll need 50m quick shots in the future, but we’ll also need 850m or more precision shots. We’ll likely need more of the 50m variety, but when you need the longer ones, you REALLY need them and they had better be right. That’s where the items in this study shine.

      Personally, I like to be competent in both of these areas, since ya never know what tool you may be called upon to use…..

      Keep your powder dry,
      Atlas Shrug

  2. Atlas Shrug

    I’ve just read the overview and scratched down into only a few of the sub-sections so far, but I really like this analysis.

    As someone with an engineering background and a semi-serious interest in long range rifle shooting, the objectivity attempted here is to be commended. From my limited exposure to a few of these optics, I can not quibble with the statements that I can compare to my own experiences.

    In a perfect world, a parallel test for the $750-$1,500 range would be done for those that can’t wait for the “second hand Uncle Sam delivery system” to be implemented. However, it would even be more difficult to decide what to include in that test given the larger number of optics in that range.

    For now, read and digest.

    Keep your powder dry,
    Atlas Shrug

  3. Bookmarked. Looks like a very intetesting read, as I’m a potential consumer of a scope in the >$2000 range.
    Its too bad swfa scopes didn’t make it into the test because of their price point. They have a few models with apochromatic lenses for under $1000. Their standard SS scope is about the only long range mil ranging scope under $500 worth bothering with.

    • Agreed. The BEST value in tactical scopes is the SWFA Super Sniper 10 X 42. True mildot reticle, rock – solid turrets and clear glass. Fully equipped with the extra goodies, installed for $500. And they take a beating.

      I’ll continue to use this model on all of my long range toys; save my money for ammo and good weather – monitoring gear.

      • And when the self-funding person can’t quite make it to five-hunnert-bux, there is the Bushnell Elite 3200 10×40 at half that. IMHO, 82% as good as a $500 model and 78% as good as the $1500 model. I’d rather use peeps than $129 3x9x40. Returns diminish rapidly as price goes up, same as audiophile turntables and amplifiers.

        Then, there is the question of the “best use” of $1500. Would buying 3 identical $500 models (discount for mult’s, at least shipping) and finding 2 glass-impaired buddies work better? It would be better to have 3 (or 6) accurate long range shooters (with snacks & radios?) behind me in windows than one.

        I’m continuing to collect $10 garage sale 7-8-10x 35-50mm objective binoculars for my spotters. Bushnell, mil-surp, Tasco, Redfield, Nikon, used cheap- because lots of not-tired eyes looking through glass is most important. Not worried about waterproof- have plastic bags. Quantity is a quality of its’ own. Sorry for not showing my work, but your data and opinion will vary.

        I will ask at the post-collapse street market about dropped-once scopes from this list. “good deal for you, 5 cans of tuna and one salmon”.

        I see top-end optics as a luxury item to be consumed at about the same rate and priority as gold (mildew doesn’t bother coins, trashes optical coatings). Life support gets priority, ‘cuz guns are really easy to lay hands on in the uSA. Doesn’t every official car have weaponry aboard now? Ask Jamal down at Safeway. Gardens that produce are hard work. Keeping chickens alive converting ticks & grubs to eggs is hard work.


  4. Marlo Stanfield

    I still feel like an idiot for dropping $1400 on a fixed power 3.5 Trijicon.

    • SemperFi, 0321

      Highly inflated toy prices to be bought with fedgov credit cards.
      80% of the crap on the AR market is unnecessary bling to dress up your new hotrod with, like chrome hubcaps and mag wheels which only make you feel good, really appeals to wannabe operators. Save your money for serious upgrades, but remember KISS still applies.
      Don’t blow your last dollar on high end gear, when in 6 months some of this will fall into your lap or be free for the taking.

    • You’re not an idiot – that’s a solid optic. Spend some time with it – learn to use its strengths and overcome its limits. A lot of people would be really happy to have one.