Repost: When To Shoot The Colonels

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From 2010, a classic by Tom Baugh, plus an annotation from another service academy graduate. WRSA thoughts here.

Lose your illusions.

Tempus fugit.

11 responses to “Repost: When To Shoot The Colonels

  1. “Besides, if some uppity colonel out there decided to start authorizing instruction about when to shoot the colonels, you can bet that pretty quick the President would no longer be pleased. Because he or she would know where that path must ultimately lead. ***Which is why uppity colonels don’t stay colonels for very long.*** Political appointees, my friends.”

    Very true. Just ask MISTER Lakin:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court-martial_of_Terry_Lakin

    • Mark Matis

      I think that he might be a good man to put in charge of the military once the war is over, if FreeFor prevails…

  2. ” ….Unless anyone who approves of punishment for the promulgation of opinions, flatters himself that he is a wiser and better man than Marcus Aurelius-more deeply versed in the wisdom of his time-more elevated in his intellect above it-more earnest in his search for truth-let him abstain from that assumption of the joint infallibility of himself and the multitude, which the great Aurelius made, with so unfortunate a result” John Stuart Mill

    IMHO many if not most in the military today have something in common with Aurelius which is their duty to the state as their supreme obligation. In many cases if not most only until that duty brings them enough personal pain will there be any question to those obligations and pain comes in different forms of both the mental and physical flavors.

    Methinks the turning of the military back to a constitutional form as of which it was originally intended will be a process that takes time and the results should not IMHO be expected to be one that is overwhelming but to be in some type of attrition.

    Death before slavery!

  3. Alfred E. Neuman

    Reblogged this on The Lynler Report.

  4. outlawpatriot

    Nobody knows a God damned thing. Until that first shot occurs, everything is nebulous. Once it rings out, politics and positions will change faster than the speed of light. Then we’ll know where to send the second shot.

    • Now THAT’S right. I knew you had something to offer.

      • outlawpatriot

        Why, thank you Jimmy. I’m so glad that you find some redeeming social value in me. But at the end of the day I assure you I don’t give a fuck. You will never be inside my wire. Nothing personal you understand. 🙂

  5. The problem is who is the first to cross that line and shoot your so-called superior officer who just gave an illegal order? Most guys just want to obey orders and get done with the task at hand. I always wondered what I would have done faced with that type of scenario.

  6. Meh. I don’t agree.
    Let me clarify that statement though. I don’t agree that the path before us is leading to a domestic policy of an iron fist in a velvet glove. I don’t agree that the road we’re going down as a nation is going to be a gradual devolvement into a sociofascist regime. In short, I don’t think that the parameters will be set up to allow the situation the article paints. I think that there will be a break. The civilian resistance outlying groups will either be too strong to allow the military such nonchalant execution without conscience, and/or the national collapse/Event will force a physical division in the armed forces that will beget a civil war.

  7. It’s interesting how little attention is paid to enlisted men in this article.

    I was enlisted, during Viet Nam, and I can tell you there was a lot of resistance even though our alleged enemy was not American and was communist. Give enlisted some time to chew over these issues in the barracks, and all of a sudden your military machine falls apart and never accomplishes anything. BTW it may be true that the question of shooting colonels is not discussed among officers, but that sure won’t stop enlisted hashing it out.

    • “Trial by hand grenade” likely took out more problem children COs than enemy fire in the latter half of the VN conflict.

      It’s a lot harder to be a productive stormtrooper when folks don’t obediently line up for the trains, but damned near impossible when the other stormtroopers keep dropping a grenade under the CO’s tent flap every other night.

      Once the leadership of a unit is seen as a bigger threat to the men’s heath and safety than enemy fire is, the leadership/follower contract is broken, and survival reactions kick in, to the total detriment of good order and discipline.

      Military and civilian leaders who forget this lesson are usually reminded when they find themselves in a medevac chopper, or when a group of their former comrades is handing them a blindfold and a last cigarette.

      Even the German army figured that out shortly after D-Day, and if Nazis can catch on to it, anyone can.

      No one needs a briefing on “When to shoot the colonels”. The lesson of Casablanca has been out there for 74 years:
      “Colonel Strasser’s been shot! Round up the usual suspects!”