Civil War?

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Civil War?
By Michael Hill

America in 2016 is a tinderbox waiting for a spark. The two sides have divided up nicely and there seems no room for compromise. The inevitable conflict, which draws closer with each passing day, will not be a strictly regional one as we had in the 1860s.

While there will be a regional element to it – meaning, for instance, that the South, the rural Midwest, and the mountain West will be allies – the conflict will be based more on worldview and race/ethnicity predicated largely on a rural-urban divide. One might do just as well to call it a general traditional-progressive divide.

On the urban/progressive side you have most of the basic American institutions, including nearly every level of government, especially the federal; all of the mainline and even some of the evangelical churches; the academy; the elite media; big business; the foundations; minority groups (especially Jews and blacks); and a host of anti-white whites. The strength of this faction lies in the large urban areas and other centers of education and government. They control the current “system” that runs the USA regime.

On the rural/traditionalist side are a scattering of government officials and personnel (including military and law enforcement), particularly on the State and local levels; the old-line Protestant churches, many of the Orthodox churches, and renegade pre-Vatican Two Roman Catholics; homeschooling families; right-wing internet news sources; small business owners; and what we call “normal” white people whose ancestors were counted among America’s founding stock. The geographic strength of this faction lies in the rural and some “conservative” suburban areas. This group is currently out of power but still controls a large amount of wealth, including skills and productive real estate. This group is also more religious, self sufficient, and has a tradition of gun ownership and military service.

There are a large and growing number of divisions upon which compromise is neither possible nor desirable: immigration, abortion, homosexual and trans-gender “rights;” gun control; crime and punishment; the minority question; foreign policy and war; Christianity in the public square; among many others. Urban progressives want to use the US regime to force their worldview upon their opponents and curtail dissent and opposition to the enactment of their worldview. Heretofore, rural traditionalists were content merely to be “left alone” to pursue what they defined as the “good life” – an unfettered pursuit of the “American Dream” of freedom and prosperity for themselves and their posterity.

But when one side – the urban progressive, who slowly gained control of the institutions of power and influence – began using the force of law and government to dispossess the other, that “other” – the rural traditionalist – began slowly to rouse itself as an act of survival. This process has gradually played itself out over the last half century, from the mid-1960s to the present.

At the heart of the urban progressive arsenal were three primary weapons: political correctness (aka cultural Marxism); non-white immigration (beginning with the 1965 Immigration and Naturalization Act); and the civil rights movement, largely writ to include feminists and homosexuals. All were designed first and foremost to foster that paralyzing and diabolical monster called “white guilt.” Indeed, white guilt has served as an effective retardant to traditional whites organizing for their own self defense over the past fifty years. Now, however, the evil spell is being broken as the urban progressives can no longer disguise their intentions. Even politically disinterested whites are beginning to see the proverbial hand writing on the wall.

So here at the beginning of 2016, another presidential election year but one that is shaping up to be anything but normal, we stand on the verge of open conflict, awaiting only a match (or as I used to hear old men say, a “lucifer”–quite an appropriate name!) to set it off. Both sides have stored up sufficient anger and hatred for the other. When the conflagration does come, it will be, I believe, hellish . . . and thorough. Much too much has been written, said, and done on both sides to expect much mercy either way.

Those who allow this genie out of the bottle had best be sure of their course, for once she’s out she will stay out until the task is completed. One side wins and one loses. No quarter asked and none given. The black flag flies. When the dust settles and the carrion crows have picked the last bones clean, America’s future will have been decided: She will be in the hands of those descended from the founding stock or she will be in control of an alien power. My question to the urban progressives is this: are you ready to unleash this hell and take the consequences?

I have been accused before by those on the left of “wanting a race war.” I want neither a race war nor a civil war; I would prefer a peaceful separation, a divorce of the contending parties, secession. Our goal in The League of the South for the past two decades has been a free and independent South. We have stated many times our sincere hope this can be accomplished peacefully. But I am a realist; if war comes, we will be ready to fight for our people and our lands.

In my opinion, the urban progressives will start this conflict. Why? Because as one of their heroes, V.I. Lenin, once insisted, all avenues are open if they advance the “revolution.” This includes lies, deceit, theft, and murder. In other words, the left has no moral compunction against doing whatever is necessary to destroy their enemies and enact their objectives.

We on the side of the rural traditionalists are bound by a moral code and the concept of “just war.” However, our reluctance to start a conflict ought not be mistaken for our inability to finish one. As the great Jackson said, once my sword is drawn, I throw away the scabbard.

My advice to the leaders of the urban progressive faction is simple: back off and do not start this conflict. Your leftist utopia is not worth the cost in blood, destruction, and human misery. Let’s have a peaceful “divorce” and be done with each other.

Your guess is as good as mine as to what might provide the actual spark for this American tinderbox. But in a presidential election year with major candidates (Trump, Sanders, and Hillary the Unindicted) far outside the mainstream of “normal” electoral politics and a persistent threat to destroy “politics as usual,” who knows?

Keep your eyes open and your powder dry.

Michael Hill
January 19, 2016

59 responses to “Civil War?

  1. Good post,thank you Sir.
    LaVoy Finicum wanted the same Peace you speak of I think……
    CIII

  2. “Once my sword is drawn, I throw away the scabbard.”

    Quite.

    Malheur, and more importantly the set-up / murder of LaVoy Finicum (regardless of debacle) is a turning point. Know this.
    The comment sections everywhere point to impending doom. So be it.
    Distant posterity calls.

    His name was Robert Finicum.

    Don’t forget the Hammonds.

    Godspeed and God Bless.

  3. I may wish for peace as a matter of conscience, but I do so knowing that the other side does not.

    Great and accurate assessment, Mr Hill, and thank you.

    • Ya, I understand and appreciate what Mr. Hill said too.
      Yes -06, fighting for what is right, for what is inherently legitimate, regardless of how terrible it can be, that is a matter of conscience also.
      I believe in The Whole Armor of God, it is what secured the West, what helped make Liberty and all its good possible. Something larger and better.

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  5. the irony is that some guy named John Titor showed up online and on a couple radio shows claiming to be from the future and said that on his timeline the US had a civil war, city against the country. The really odd thing was he said that Russia was Americas best ally after they nuked the cities.

    Take it for what you will..

    On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Western Rifle Shooters Association wrote:

    > Concerned American posted: ” Civil War? By Michael Hill America in 2016 is > a tinderbox waiting for a spark. The two sides have divided up nicely and > there seems no room for compromise. The inevitable conflict, which draws > closer with each passing day, will not be a strictly r” >

  6. Not going to happen on our lifetime.

    It would require real men, not keyboard commandos.

    • I hope you enjoy being right.

      Many of us will be dead and hence will miss it.

      • It has nothing to do with enjoying.

        It has everything.to do with someone being consistently wrong on their prognostications and the other almost consistently correct.

        You’re entitled tonyoubopinion, not your own facts.

    • Speak for yourself, coward.

      • LoL,

        Coward ? Certainly you are referring to yourself because if you had the ‘nads to call one a coward to his face, you’d earn, at minimum, an ass kicking.

        You keyboard warriors are all alike. Writing insults that your mangina wouldn’t have the courage to say to a man’s face.

  7. Interesting read. Pajama Boy vs Rebel Yell, not much of a contest if you think about it. I am grateful I am a Southerner. And I want my flag back.

    • Hope you understand that Ratlanta and the rest of the hives in the South are NOT Southerners.

    • Centurion_Cornelius

      …”want the flag back.” It’s never been gone, Brother. Just “parked” for a bit. She’ll be out soon enough.

    • Every civil war in the history of civil wars, all of them, from the beginning of recorded time has had both sides believing their victory was a forgone conclusion because the ‘other side’ didn’t have what it takes. Don’t let yourself and yours fall into that trap. Be ready.

      For instance, consider that it will not be just pajama boy and other similar emasculated males of the urban elite on the side of the collectivists. There is an entire army that was born and raised in urban violence. Their mindset is much farther along than most/many on the side of individual irresponsibility. They are already conditioned to use violence to achieve their goals (kill to get what they want or protect their concept of honor). Can you say the ‘good folk’ who are just waking up can say the same? Pajama boy will not be a warrior, but pajama boy is educated and has the allegiance of the savagely prepared masses. Nothing pretty nor easy is coming. Be ready.

      • +10000

        The afterchatter of the last few days demonstrates same.

        The Devil is afoot in big and small forms.

        There needs to be a mindset change forthwith.

        There is no political solution.

        There is no peaceful solution.

        The powers-that-be want traditional Americans to submit to every ruler’s whim, or in the alternative, be eliminated.

        It is just that stark.

        Those are the lessons I have drawn over the past few years.

      • This is the most cogent reply to a civil war I have read. CSG III You understand the cultural system developed by the progressives. They have trained a massive army for decades and will turn it loose on the masses when the time comes. As Dutchman6 of Sipsey Street Irregulars is fond of saying. The difference between a socialist and a Marxist is the socialist hasn’t found his AK47 yet.

    • There are a lot of us rural midwesterners that would love to help you get your flag back.

    • Pajama Boy didn’t kill Finicum. Pajama Boy’s protectors did. Pajama Boy might be flying the killer drones, but he won’t be getting his boots muddy.

  8. Excellent write-up! How true it is, too.
    To the moderator: I wish you has a “PDF” option. So many articles are worthy of printing an passing along (not everyone has a pc). Alas, I will continue to cut-n-paste for now…

  9. “white guilt” is paralyzing only to the weak willed. I for one don’t give a flyin fuck what label my enemies chose to slap on me. Period.

  10. “Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”

    –2 Corinthians 3:17

    “In harsh or melancholy epochs free men may always take comfort from the grand lesson of history, that tyrannies cannot last except among servile races. The years which seem endless to those who endure them are but a flick of mischance in the journey. New and natural hopes leap from the human heart as every spring revives the cltivated soil and rewards the faithful, patient husbandmen.”

    –Winston Churchill
    A History of the English Speaking Peoples

  11. politically, things are setting up well: Trump will destroy the Republiscam party, leaving most non-urban Whites no place to go but the gun store. And Hiligula in the WH, combined with a collapse of the debtPonziconomy, will throw the entire country into a chaos which she will exacerbate into open warfare. I don’t doubt for a moment that FreeFor is going to win, but when or at what price…I cannot say. Just spent the last couple hours reading various essays @ realclearpolitics: these Beltway chatterboxes do not have a clue as to what’s coming. The political Center is collapsing all around them, and they don’t get it

  12. An amicable divorce is desired by everyone and will happen as long as you agree to hand over the cars, the house, the land, your guns, the kids, and half your earnings after you leave. And after you’ve received your ex sanguinated turnip certificate, they’ll be back for more. It’s not the gold and silver you still have buried, it’s your acquiescence and surrender.

    Paper is cheaper than bullets and barbed wire. They’ll use that first.

  13. Hey dudes, greetings from Spain. You know there was a civil war in Spain from 1936 until 1939. Fortunately patriots won the war, but leftist scum never really disappeared, and they have taken over all the media, “culture” circles, government etc. I always thought Americans lose their civil war, next time you need not only to win it but to be sure you are not infiltrated again. I guess having a 2nd ammendment rights help.

  14. Reblogged this on The way I see things … and commented:
    I don’t want to see my Country torn

    “We on the side of the rural traditionalists are bound by a moral code and the concept of “just war.” However, our reluctance to start a conflict ought not be mistaken for our inability to finish one. As the great Jackson said, once my sword is drawn, I throw away the scabbard.”

  15. Its called incrimentalism and theyre doing a bang up job with that in the south. Seems to me they’ve got you surrounded and seiged.

  16. The progressives will never consent to a national divorce initiated by traditionalists, as described by Mr. Hill above. The only peaceful solution is to put the progressives in a position where they desire the divorce. This requires political control at the federal level, and a roll back of the progressives’ cherished institutions: gay rights, abortion, welfare etc. In other words, enough political payback to make them squeal and force them to want out. Force the NY Times to editorialize for the national divorce, and then we can be free.

    All highly unlikely, violence being the first choice among men since antiquity.

    • “All highly unlikely, violence being the first choice among men since antiquity.”

      Not the first choice… the progs first choice is the “long march through the institutions,” as they have so demonstrated for the last 100 years. When Osockpuppet got selected, they began to feel froggy and jumped the shark, exposing their true agenda for all to see. Many are now realizing that and many are the unintended consequences.

      As for traditional, Liberty mined American, our first choice was to be left alone to pursue the blessings of Liberty. Our error lay in thinking that that would be possible, having mistaken our enemies as merely misguided idealists.

      When two sides are as diametrically opposed and entrenched in their beliefs, when one of those sides just will not let the other be, and when that side insists it has the right and the imperative to force the capitulation of the other… violence is the only way- for the tyrannists, it is a war of aggression, for the rest of us it is clearly self defense. They will never stop or let us be until we stop them by the only conclusive means available.

      So much for the “moral High ground” debate. Put that one to rest- we own the moral high ground which is that Liberty exists where we put our feet.

      For them, only tyranny, coercion, murder and theft.

  17. DWEEZIL THE WEASEL

    And when it does start, and the food trucks can no longer roll into the metro Blue Hives with all of the goodies, what will happen? Being a former resident of one of the largest Blue Hives(SoCal) I have a scenario..
    The gangs will stake out their territories and take over. Cops will be running for their lives. The cosmic-white Marxist-collectivist types who cannot board their Gulfstream IV’s and fly to their enclaves in the Southern Hemisphere, Jackson Hole, Hailey or Sandpoint, will be pulled out of their Foresters and Priuses in the parking lots of Whole Foods and Trader Joe’s and slaughtered. The Beverly Hills Irishmen and women and Manhattan Indian men and women who have been agitating and bankrolling the Black and the Brown since the ’50’s will also pay dearly.
    Once this culling is done, however, the snake will uncoil and reach out. If these mutants can get their hands on gasoline, they will start for our hinterlands and take out smaller towns and cities one by one. Hopefully FreeFor will have acquired some heavy military hardware by then to protect life and property. Study tactics. Know the geography of your A/O. Develop good sources of intelligence. Prep and pray.

    • Just how much fuel do you think will be available in any hive after that hive collapses? Have you seen what the “urban youfs” do when they practice their “culture”? They take whatever they can use in the immediate future, and destroy the rest. So not only will the fuel in the hives be rapidly destroyed, but private vehicles will be destroyed as well. And not just cars and trucks, but bicycles and such as well. Yes, there will be SOME forays into the hive surrounds, but there will be very few survivors in the hives to go out to the hinterlands. Or do you think that La Raza and the chimps and sheboons are going to suddenly decide to play nice with each other???

      • Lol, reality again. “They take whatever they can use in the immediate future, and destroy the rest.” Pretty much that simple…anyone who can’t outwit that, probably doesn’t deserve to. What, do you work for the Detroit Historical Dept. or something?

      • You’re absolutely correct, Mark. The cities will become slaughter houses for anyone still standing; armed or unarmed.
        They will eventually foray into those “hinterlands” when the supplies dwindle or they choose to save their own butts. In either case, it’ll be up to those in the villages and small towns to eradicate them as they appear. No compassion, no mercy – shoot on sight or be murdered in your beds.
        Those with any modicum of civility will have a tough time of it, for sure. None of us “want to kill”; it’ll become a necessary evil – like in any war. It’s them or us – no litigation can be had. Folks with kids “might” get a break, provided they’re afforded 24 hour surveillance for a trial period, but single folks – sorry!

        • And outside the IMMEDIATE hive surroundings, there will only be onesies who can venture further. IF the logisitics chain to the hives is cut.

          And not ALL hives need to have those chains cut for the “Strength” of their “Diversity” to work its wonders. As I have said before, the government can pacify one hive at a time. They showed that in Nawlins once Mayor Chocolate and Governor Whitey finally asked for help. And they showed it again after Sandy. They MAY even be able to stretch it to cover TWO hives at the same time. But give them four or more hives concurrently and they do not stand a chance. And once the FIRST hive starts to collapse and word gets out to the OTHER hives, they will panic and collapse on their own EVEN IF THEIR LOGISTICS CHAINS ARE NOT TOUCHED!

          Hive dwellers live where they do because they want and trust the government to take care of their every need and every desire. Once government has shown that it CANNOT control the evil in the hives, residents therefrom will panic, storm the stores, and empty the shelves. As fast as those shelves can be refilled, they will be emptied again. And the panic will feed upon itself. “Urban youfs” will feel enabled in those hives and will take their “cultural pride” to the same level as that of their bruthas and sistas in the hives that were originally affected. And if even ONE QUARTER of the “diversity” in any hive goes native, that hive’s “Law Enforcement” doesn’t stand a chance.

          The alternate ending is that the economy collapses slowly enough and the hive logistics chains do NOT get cut. In that situation, “Law Enforcement” will foray out into the countryside and “requisition” whatever their hive “needs”. And then retreat back into the safety of the hive when they are done. THAT is the scenario where flyover country is in deep shiite.

    • Make sure your AO is ready when the SHTF.

  18. You know there was a civil war in Spain from 1936 until 1939. Fortunately, patriots won the war, but leftist scum never really disappeared, and they have taken over all the media, “culture” circles, government etc for a long time now. I always thought Americans lost their civil war, next time you need not only to win it but to be sure you are not infiltrated again. I guess having a 2nd ammendment rights help on the task.

  19. dweezil, i hope and think you are right. i’m counting on it. we fled southern kommiefornia in 2014. my foolish in laws are still in west LA. i have told them they are on their own. i won’t be coming to get them. the blue hive negrocities and gimmedats are going to have a hard time where we are, especially if they venture here during the summer. no place for them to go or hide. they won’t find any sympathetic folk here. theres reason why we all live here. we need to get this going soon, before i get too much older. i dont want to pass the buck to my kids. i already had a good life, time to make sure they have a chance at one.

  20. It’s pretty much inevitable due to resource scarcity. The black hole in D.C. will continue to delegate more and more unrealistic demands on the resistors, until the rubber band finally snaps back violently.

  21. SHTF School is probably an accurate depiction of what civil war would be like. The urban cesspools are already infested with gangs, bums, and the Free Shit Army. The people who think the police will be there to protect them are
    in for an ugly surprise, as are the aforementioned parasites who think they will just roll into the ‘burbs and rural areas and take over. The predators who hold the gun sideways probably have no concept of hitting what you shoot at from 300 yds. and hitting somebody with 80% of the shots you fire with a rifle.

    • Big Bad Wolf

      OK just nitpicking one point: canting your barrel when shooting a pistol one handed actually improves stability in the arm. If you don’t believe me please try it yourself. Now I realize gangbangers aren’t doing it to improve stability, more likely because they think it looks ‘cool’… but I recently completed my pistol qualification for law enforcement in WI and canting was taught in class, specifically, as the best way to shoot one handed. YMMV.

      This is a pretty thought provoking piece with good comments, as always. God Bless.

  22. As couple of thoughts after reading the previous posts:
    1) having lived in El Paso TX, do not doubt for one moment that gangs (of whatever nature) are not organized (and inter-generational) and disciplined with their own code of conduct (very dangerous). If you are late to the party, there is no way you and yours will catch up and 2) if ‘it’ comes be prepared to do whatever it takes (and that means everything either imaginable or otherwise) – if ‘it’ goes hot, you and yours need to be more brutal and unforgiving than ‘them’: period. I read somewhere where the commenter stated that the families of the opponents should be off limits – wrong – everything is fair game once ‘game on’ – only the most unwavering, well disciplined and organized side will win (if you can call it that): regardless, the outcome will change things forever and probably not in a good way.

  23. European American

    The REAL ”Secret Agenda” For America Is A Secret No More (2016)

  24. Alfred E. Neuman

    Reblogged this on The Lynler Report.

  25. Sanders in 2016! Let’s get it started!

  26. ALCON,

    Many thought-provoking comments by everyone. Good read.

  27. If or when the big event begins it will start with a spontaneous spark and blow into a firestorm overnight. The establishment will call for a ceasefire and negotiations so that they can maneuver against us while we strut and preen thinking that we have brought them to the table in fear and an acceptance of our being equals. Don’t you believe it. They will forever hold us in contempt and strive to beguile us with compromises galore that they will abrogate at their leisure and advantage. We must conduct a 100 mph war 24/7 and break every attempt of theirs to wage siege warfare or gain positional advantage. And our battle commanders must be chosen from men proven in battle and the best will be naturals with intense OJT. Instead of BS artists with or without military experience. Those, we shoot in the head before the lawyers.

    • “The establishment will call for a ceasefire and negotiations so that they can maneuver against us while we strut and preen thinking that we have brought them to the table in fear and an acceptance of our being equals. Don’t you believe it.”

      Herein is the lesson of Malheur.

  28. There is no turning back. The left has gained huge momentum, owns the courts and the welfare state. Only bloodshed and pain will change the course THEY put us on.

  29. I suspect you have lost the cultural war, the economic war, and the moral war. Having lost all of the above, I have no reason to believe that you would prevail in a physical conflict. Guns do not win wars, hearts and minds do. Y’all have neither.
    “compromise is neither possible nor desirable: immigration, abortion, homosexual and trans-gender “rights;” gun control; crime and punishment; the minority question; foreign policy and war; ” So, are you going to settle those questions with firepower? I await a reasoned response, though the probability of getting one may be small. I do not hide behing a fake name.

  30. Reed you are a true believer while the vast majority are very flexible. No one wishes a civil war. I have seen numerous civil; wars over my career and I never want to see it in this nation. However if one half of society decides to force another half of society to bend to their will there will be a breaking point. If enough of a society feel in danger from the group attempting to destroy their values they will rebel. Once a conflagration begins it builds on itself. I have watched military organizations break apart and support different elements within the fight. It is inevitable. there are true believers on both sides and if one side is not a part of the change and isolationism is used to force them into line they will fight to save their culture. Everyone says it can never happen here until it does happen. Once a civil war is underway it will go on for years. When the first civil war began people from the local area of the battlefield went to watch the upstarts get their backsides handed to them. Everyone thought the fight would be over in a few days. We know how that turned out.