Real-Life Resistance

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Polish Resistance, Political Situation/Predicament, NSZ/Holy Cross Brigade

Background:

Some thoughts while proof-reading a manuscript translation that has been a collaboration of a few years with another retired brother-in-arms who is doing the translation, and whose father served in the Holy Cross Brigade. These notes are from 2 different accounts; neither is derived from historians but from those who were there, memoirs. One was partially published (in Polish only, in Chicago) in the ’60’s. Otherwise, the translation & effort to get these on record has been ongoing for awhile, especially because most of the principals have passed on.

Because of reviewing some other things on the UW bookshelf and doing a simultaneous re-read of “Learning to Eat Soup With a Knife” I kinda just had to dump this because there are similarities to the current situation. A brain-cleaning, so to speak; by no means complete as I’m still proofing and buddy is still working on assembling & collecting refs. (Goal is the manuscript is able to make it onto the net w/maps & refs at least sometime in 2016.)

1. Actual forest units of the resistance (a literal term to distinguish from the political arm); major suck factor. Tactics used appropriate to sustaining, survival – very seldom offensive operations & certainly nothing that would result in massive retaliation on whole villages by Germans. There is disease of all kinds, borne by lack of hygiene, innocuous stuff, things taken for granted nowadays. There is fatigue beyond belief; some of this is also borne by hunger beyond belief. You think a city kid who missed breakfast before school has their faculties degraded? Multiply x100. (There is a reason Special Forces candidates and some other SOF have a major suck-factor applied in even selecting whether they can eventually be called such.)

2. Those who tried to appease the Soviets coming from the East were classical “useful idiots” and once the needed territory was acquired they were shot or sent to Siberia. Even the ones who’d betrayed their countrymen by gathering lists of “dangerous” individuals. Those who sought to align with occupying German forces against the Red march were also ultimately dispensed with (having conveniently forgotten that both Stalin & Hitler didn’t intend to “occupy” Poland – they intended to obliterate it, biologically, as a people, to the last trace of DNA.) The enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend; they are BOTH your enemy. The only units able to eventually survive (not necessarily fight or conduct regular offensive operations) long enough to make a march to the west (and the Allies) did so because their only concern was survival of a nationalist concept and its people, vs. “fight this one now, fight the other later.” The latter doesn’t work when you’re being squeezed from both sides.

3. Pre-war, patriotic & nationalist organizations were accorded the same scorn & persecution as org’s with clear ties to Soviet communists. (Parallel: Taking groups that would espouse reclaiming land for America from a despotic Fed.Gov and equating them with ISIS.) Anything that engenders class-warfare (economic, heritage, etc.) should be suspect. This is a classic tactic and goes on at this very moment in the post-millenial world. As a result, you will find so-called “leaders” you trusted who will make really bad choices in the face of the most stark reality you can imagine – but they will do it anyway. Steel yourself for this – it will be a major dose of cold-water.

4. Large-scale resistance movements don’t usually spontaneously happen. Frankly, most people, if they’re having their basic needs met – especially in the hinterlands – really are content to sit back and avoid conflict. It’s simple. It’s also fact. You really may not have anyone initially but you & perhaps those kin who are (probably reluctantly) going to stick with you (maybe till the suck factor exceeds the vows part). There’s a reason people say LocalLocalLocal. Your neighbor who seems indifferent is just that, nothing more – until they’re squeezed a bit. Then they will be the ones leading the patrol to your base, cache, the gunsafe you bragged about a couple Christmases ago.

5. Comparmentalize Compartmentalize Compartmentalize. Most of the instances where – absent some overt kinetic operation – forested units had to noshit defend themselves and, likely, roust the entire base up & move to a new AO are because someone knew something they didn’t need to. If the index & middle fingers are talking and the index brags about the really neat opposed thumb nearby apparently connected & run by that wrist & arm, how long do you think it is before the entire central nervous system is compromised? Make sure those fingers know only what they need to get their jobs done. Another thing to steel yourself for: When, not if, it becomes necessary to mete out some form of justice to someone who has clearly jeopardized the group (yeah, all couple dozen of you by now). Do it with moral rules – but you will have to do it in some fashion. Remember the winner gets to write the version of history to be read. And, even if you win, someone else with an ax to grind (pun completely intended, maybe a bereaved relative) will come from the shadows to accuse you of war crimes. To win you first have to survive. People will die, good people. It will happen. Grab a big dose of resolve; pushing on doesn’t make you a callous monster – it makes you a realist.

6. All the things that pre-dated September 1939 were known FOR SEVERAL YEARS to most Poles, particularly those in politics, and company & field-grade officers in the army regiments, long before things really got sporty with something called a Blitzkrieg.

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28 March 2016:

Some footnotes, errata if you will, following my review of the 2nd packet from my friend (editor/translator); we’ve been able to also plot some locations to modern references on a GoogleEarth map during ‘the March West’. These guys were some ruckin’ fools after dark by the way and make someone’s recreational 2-day 25km march look like a stroll in the park.

One of the things that stands out about the Holy Cross Brigade is simply that they were able to survive, with both personal & unit integrity. Personally I think one of the primary reasons, besides a huge dose of nationalistic anti-communist belief, is that those who were already trained in the military arts didn’t condescend to those not yet so trained. (In fact later, during the post-war years, the Brigade CO was told by a senior member of the staff of the Gov’t-in-exile – contrasting the various factions that fought, including those who were really Soviet tools – “you guys were the ones who got it right.” [sic]

Contrast the following scenarios (as sometimes happens by a handful of posters at WRSA), were such people to be confronted with some largely unskilled young men who wanted to serve:

WRSA poster: “You aren’t worthy to gaze upon my boots! You will be eaten alive by the regime and, maybe, you’ll realize you should’ve done something about it before now. You’d better hope some of your betters will save your ass because you’re a worthless piece of dung & have no idea what you’re in for.”

Holy Cross Brigade officers: “Welcome! What village are you from? Those who know will teach you, everything from military movements, to patrolling, weapons, land navigation, including at night, methods of clandestine communications and all you need to serve the unit & your brothers & save our nation. If you are really young, those of us trained in the university will also teach you politics, the sciences & mathematics, languages & philosophy.”

That second approach was applied throughout – which one do you suppose engendered unit integrity & loyalty? One of them enabled a brigade to arrive intact, over an arduous cross-border march, while people were trying to kill them from both sides. And, oh by the way, after they neared the completion of their march they took the time to liberate 1,000 female prisoners in a Czech concentration camp where the Germans had orders within the week to liquidate all prisoners.

48 responses to “Real-Life Resistance

  1. Outstanding. Just outstanding. Good thing none of it will ever happen here. (lol, see the earlier link to the Atlantic piece where a lefty commissar wannabe gloats and salivates and creams his jeans over the coming SCOTUS).

  2. Worthy of repetition here:

    “Contrast the following scenarios (as sometimes happens by a handful of posters at WRSA), were such people to be confronted with some largely unskilled young men who wanted to serve:”

    WRSA poster: “You aren’t worthy to gaze upon my boots! You will be eaten alive by the regime and, maybe, you’ll realize you should’ve done something about it before now. You’d better hope some of your betters will save your ass because you’re a worthless piece of dung & have no idea what you’re in for.”

    ” “Holy Cross Brigade officers: “Welcome! What village are you from? Those who know will teach you, everything from military movements, to patrolling, weapons, land navigation, including at night, methods of clandestine communications and all you need to serve the unit & your brothers & save our nation. If you are really young, those of us trained in the university will also teach you politics, the sciences & mathematics, languages & philosophy.” ”

    “That second approach was applied throughout – which one do you suppose engendered unit integrity & loyalty?” (End quote.)

    I’d love to rant and rub salt but that stands alone as a justly deserved indictment. You know who they are.

  3. Comparing apples to oranges.

    WW2 poles

    against

    2016 murikin idiots.

    Nuff said…

  4. WRSA poster: “You aren’t worthy to gaze upon my boots! You will be eaten alive by the regime and, maybe, you’ll realize you should’ve done something about it before now. You’d better hope some of your betters will save your ass because you’re a worthless piece of dung & have no idea what you’re in for.”

    Holy Cross Brigade officers: “Welcome! What village are you from? Those who know will teach you, everything from military movements, to patrolling, weapons, land navigation, including at night, methods of clandestine communications and all you need to serve the unit & your brothers & save our nation. If you are really young, those of us trained in the university will also teach you politics, the sciences & mathematics, languages & philosophy.”

    Perfect.

  5. “WRSA poster: ‘You aren’t worthy to gaze upon my boots!'”

    “Holy Cross Brigade officers: ‘Welcome!'”

    Distinction: The Poles were a people, had a culture, and had a religion. They had something worth fighting for.

    The US is a mongrel, all it has is advertising, and it is atheist. It deserves everything that happens to it.

    S//

  6. This has to be one of the most informative posts, illustration of actual world example under extreme conditions, that I have seen to date. Please let me know when it is published. I would like to read the completed work.

  7. Thank you.

    “The enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend; they are BOTH your enemy.”<—this

    "Remember the winner gets to write the version of history to be read. And, even if you win, someone else with an ax to grind (pun completely intended, maybe a bereaved relative) will come from the shadows to accuse you of war crimes."<——You can see modern version of this now occurring in NI. Dead men actually do tell tales but they do it to some Boston College "reseaarcher" talking their fcking yaps off.

  8. “The enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend; they are BOTH your enemy.”

    If only there were two that would be easier to deal with. There are more than two.

  9. No.

    It’s comparing attitudes towards people, training and operating effectively, bringing the willing but untrained in and getting them ready. Miss that part about (re) educating them as well?

    If all us murkins are as you say, those methods and attitudes will be even more necessary, and effective, than they were for the Poles.

    And btw, those are the very methods the Foreign Legion uses to integrate, educate and train the rabble of many countries whom they turn into one of the better units in the world, at least once upon a time.

    tfAt, do you think it even possible that there might be at least ten or a thousand guys left just as capable as you, and not bitter to the point of despair who might be able to operate something like the Poles?

    If not, why trouble us all with your endless a. “I am the greatest!” and b. “Y’all are slobs, fools, degenerates, dreamers, ignorant… blah, blah.” ? To what purpose? Should we just all lay down and die right now because it’s all so hopeless? Why, I could never hope to be as STRAC as you, trooper… guess I’ll just cash out now cuz I’m as good as dead already.

    To hell with all that. That’s the Enemy whispering in your ear, as is all the defeatist hopelessness that appears here. Doesn’t mean the thing isn’t dire, or that we’ll live through it, but it’s only as hopeless as we believe the Eternal Big Lie.

  10. Guess you’ll be sitting this one out then, eh Steve?

    Nothing to fight for here. Good for you.

    See all above I wrote to tfAt, then back to your study and your books with you.

  11. Not that I’m holding the high moral ground (I’m not even halfway up the hill) but it seems to me responding to this guy lends him legitimacy in his own eyes. Everything this guy posts has a toxic taint to it sprinkled liberally with obvious BS. Reminds me of guys you’d meet in a tavern who were constantly driving their imaginary Caddy El Dorados up and down the bar.

  12. SFC. Barry, at the risk of incurring your wrath, I, SFC. Barfield (ret) beg to differ. I have many times, trained and employed platoons of what you might term polyglot masses into fighting units. And something else to consider. Even if all the atheists and bad people get all the ink from MSM and the net, it doesn’t mean there lacks silver among the dross. Among the crowds of worthless ones out there, there are many, many individuals who have never really had a chance for a professional (ahem) to take them in hand, and patiently, expertly, put them on the path to amounting to something. I recall with some regrets that I was once a very ignorant and uniformed, untrained idiot, politically undeveloped, without a clue as to what it was all about. Yet men who had nothing in common with me, patiently and expertly guided my mind into a framework of becoming a good soldier. It didn’t go perfectly, and I had to also mature at the same time, but it happened, because some one took the time, and gave me the benefit of the doubt. Shit, give me thirty women, who are not fit, trained, or even soldier oriented, and I’ll hand you back thirty or so killers who know their stuff, in a couple of months. I don’t even need any support, or a budget. They’ll be able to shoot, move, and communicate like a team, and hold their own when called. A professional soldier is one who believes in the possible, and is not discouraged nor arrogant about the mission he gets. Humility is a virtue.

  13. DWEEZIL THE WEASEL

    Word.

  14. Virgil Kane

    Seen daily and already in this thread.

  15. cf. as well: Milijia Lasic-Vasojevic, ENEMIES ON ALL SIDES: THE FALL OF YUGOSLAVIA (Washington, 1976). f/h account, nationalist Chetniks vs. Nazis, Reds, and Stalin/Churchill

  16. winner!!

  17. Post of the month

  18. Please tell me again how good looking you are Detroit Tufts. It makes me moist to read about you

  19. I fear sir that we have now been judged! Despite all the effort of The Great One we have sunk so low that even He cannot consider us worthy of his mighty instructions. Surely now we will suffer his failure along with him. All will drink of his bitter cup of malox and reflect upon his marvelous exploits as chronicled in Numerous and Lovely productions by Golan Globus

  20. You are correct. There is no form of resistance to Red Team in the US.

    Bundy found that out the hard way.

  21. You, more than anyone else here, spreads confusion and dessension at WRSA.

  22. This post has several strong parallels to what Major von Dach had to say in Total Resistance. Which is worth reading and studying.

  23. Says the biggest Troll here at WRSA…

  24. Amen Brother…The thing I don’t understand about SFC Barry is if he has given up on humanity and thinks we are all dregs then why even comment on here unless he is just another tool to demoralize us…I can understand him being disgusted with the American people I can even understand his frustration with people being stupid and not getting their act together when we all know time is short…I get that I feel that way too a lot of the time…The thing is I think deep down Barry would love to lead again and I think he has a wealth of knowledge that most of us could learn from problem is who wants to follow a leader that thinks your lower than whale shit…A leader is suppose to lift up his men, encourage them in what is right, increase their strengths and improve their weaknesses not dumb shit them all the time…Just my thoughts I’ve never led men into battle but it just seems like common sense that men who are in good spirits would be more effective in battle instead of the dejected ones…Sad That…

  25. Amen Brother… I would gladly fall under your command…

  26. Cassandra (of Troy)

    oughtsix/08Apr16@01:24,

    See also the following.:

    http://www.great-quotes.com/quote/11099

    http://www.great-quotes.com/quote/5902

    http://bearingarms.com/instructors-use-tact-in-tactical-training/

    Remember QUITE awhile ago when a woman from IIRC AZ wanted info about defensive firearms/training, the general response to her request, how it was eventually answered, & her reaction to the aid she received? Luke 6:31. Did the same thing on the old Yahoo ‘gun control’ boards & it paid dividends w/ observers.

  27. Interesting reading. Poland is one of the most fascinating countries in Europe. These people have survived (sometimes in-spite of themselves) numerous invasions and partitions only to resurface to prominence.

    I was over there in 1985, as well as some other countries of the soviet bloc, and came away convinced that, if the confederation were to fall, Poland would be the first to kick down the door.

    Always neat to find another piece of Polish history. Thanks for posting this!

  28. just plain todd.

    there may be hope yet. i gotta admit, most of the stuff i read here is a mix of depressing and motivating stuff. some days just seem darker for me. my apologies…….

  29. Cassandra (of Troy)

    tfA-t/08Apr16@01:39,

    Since you’ve already proclaimed your intent to depart for safer climes & leave the rest of us “murikin idiots” to fend as best we can it’s puzzling why you/Detroit/SFC Barry/similar continue commenting here when e.g. Vox Popoli &/or SBPDL would quite likely be more philosophically harmonious expression venues.

  30. Thank you SO much for this post. Im one of those untrained folks who is on your side and does what he can with incredibly limited supplies. Someone in the 30 and under bracket who gets it and has a core group of friends who think the same. Were not pros. We cant train like elite commandoes. But we see the BS were surrounded by and we understand history. We know whats coming.

    To those here at wrsa who are patient, respectful, and dont belittle us ‘serfs’, thank you. You have more folks than you know at various levels in random jobs who have access to all sorts of things and info. Thanks folks.

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  32. Yessir, incredibly resilient, they are. In a simplistic sense will agree with some that, lamentably, it is an apples/oranges thing RE current times in the FUSA – for most, too many in fact. However, it doesn’t make the history less worthy; perhaps something to strive for. Many a soul has gone wandering because there was no one to show them “this is what ‘right’ looks like.” Or perhaps some, who are getting it right, can read some account (when it’s finally put together) that validates the often-lackluster tasks of seeing that things are torqued to spec. As Scalia mentioned in that address to his grand-daughter’s graduating class (paraphrased), “before you ‘go off’ to follow your conscience, make sure your conscience is in the right place.”

  33. SFC Sean, I concur. After active Navy (cold war years) and a break in service, I joined a National Guard infantry unit. Ever so the diversity of group dynamics, M-Day soldiers; we managed to pull off three combat deployments. Men from all walks of life, our lessons learned were E Pluribus Unum and esprit d’ corps.
    As a Sergeant leader of soldiers in a Division Tac/CP I became embroiled with certain female senior NCO’s whom had a disdain for PT and marksmanship skills and training. They suddenly retired after trying to railroad me. Female officers in the 40th ID were utmost professionals.
    As a Staff Sergeant, leader of sergeants who are leaders of soldiers, I still encounter a few good bricking females. Once again, command is professional.
    I have learned to take diversity and turn into E Pluribus Unum. “Build it and they will come.” I am an organizer of labor. When those young people come to me, I will train them for victory!

  34. Thank you for posting, “…courage is an attribute that without it all others are meaningless…” You need some basic grammar lessons, unless you are using “tappatalk.” “…The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step…”

  35. Bucephalus

    The lack of faith I have for those men who would falter (and are caving) under the weight of fear is of little use to anyone….

    The amount of faith I have in the Patriots who would carry (and are carrying) the battle to the enemies of liberty is also of little use to anyone; but “suffice to say”, I DO HAVE FAITH IN MY FELLOW PATRIOTS.

    I may never know the full story or even part of it, but that will not keep me from performing my duties to the cause of individual liberty! My success or failures may never be known, but that will not stop me either!

    As a Christian man; Medius Fidius !

  36. sturandot13

    Very well said! I am sure that there are many who would be more than willing to learn and become useful under one such as you. All of the “F___ the ‘Murikans'” @$$hats can just go play with themselves.

  37. sturandot13

    Spot-on.

  38. sturandot13

    “… It deserves everything that happens to it.”

    Well, if that is the way you feel about your fellow countrymen who may not have yet had a chance to serve this country, then so do you. Your picture seems to paint you as a Green Beret – one of the Quiet Professionals. If that is true then you certainly are a disappointment.

  39. I speak the Gods truth.

    Truth hurts more than a thorough beating.

    Not my problem if you can’t handle it.

    If you still are slaving away for a meager existence here in fusa, you are most definetely in no position to give advice and have no real skin in the game other than your actual worthless skin… Remember, opinions are like assholes, even the poor ones have them.

  40. I want any lip from you boy, I’ll just scrape it off my zipper.

    I’d bet more than 70% of you weasels have never killed anyone or anything.

    As if you’re b.s. opinions add up to more than used toilette paper.

  41. I force myself to believe there are at least a million decent worthy men left here in country, but I truly doubt very much more than that. People are lying bastards. Not a day goes by I don’t encounter scumbags port, starboard, fore, and aft. If you don’t see this yourself, you are either stupid as fuck or one of them and don’t even know it. I guess with enough beer, dope and hours worth of tv on a daily basis, human decency and moral compasses rot away and the only thing left is surrender.

    I’ve seen it my whole life, fucking millions and millions of non-acheivers who gave up and are just happy to work at some go nowhere job and abuse the system to supplement their inadequacies As far as the Foreign Legion goes, it’s made up of international criminals and scoundrels who run away from their past crimes to start anew, hardly a pillar of righteousness and honor. What I know is this, 9 out of 10 humans on this planet work harder to cheat, steal, and con others out of their $ and property than they do to earn an honest living. If any of you actually have any substantial worth, you know as well as I do this is true.

    To the detractors of my educated and candid assessments made here on WRSA, all I can say is you probably just don’t want to hear the brutal fucking truth about the reality of today’s common american and its culture of rewarding failure by taking from those who have succeeded and giving it to those who are less than winners in life. The Biblical quote “casting pearls at swine” comes to mind. Seriously, ask yourselves one question…

    Did I volunteer to go into harms way and suffer the physical/psychological abuses of earning the right to be called “Warrior”?

    If you can’t answer yes, then your opinion is worth as much as the next guy who didn’t either. That would be 0.

  42. “You have more folks than you know at various levels in random jobs who have access to all sorts of things and info.”

    And that is something far too many people don’t realize.

  43. Alfred E. Neuman

    Reblogged this on ETC., ETC., & ETC..

  44. Pinelander gets it, work with what you have. Train or die motherfuckers.

    http://ovm-cvm.blogspot.com/p/unit-video.html

    MONTANI SEMPER LIBERI

  45. What a douche. Is your ear necklace bigger than Kerodins? Or maybe you are Kerodin. Same grandiose self image. Same tiny little cute pink pudgy hands?

    So killer, where was your big hunting ground? You’re too young for Vietnam. Too old for Gulf One. You probably have never left CONUS on Uncle Sam’s dime.

    I also reckon you have to be inflicted with Little Man Syndrome. I call five foot six.

    And, in partying, let me wish you the very finest case of the foaming shits from this up and coming nororvirus cruise you were mouthing off about.

    dick.

  46. My .02 on Barry. He’s done the work. How many here or on any blog have actually done the work? I’m not talking about cooks, pencil pushers, and the whole (jock) support thing. I’m talking about qualified grunts. Everyone wants to be a fighter, except they just never seem to actually train to fight, or have ever trained to fight. He has a legitimate POV. I said it before, if you never earned the right to be labeled as a Warrior, then you most likely are NOT a warrior and your bs remf opinions hold very little weight to men who were and are. That is, unless it’s about cooking, pushing pencils, or being a supporter.