Brushbeater: A few items to invest in…NOW



On a somewhat related note, anyone want to do a similar piece on traps (i.e., Conibear, etc.)?

Pretty sure the hardware store is going to be depleted.

50 responses to “Brushbeater: A few items to invest in…NOW

  1. SameNoKami

    Trapped beaver, otter and racoon (skunk and possum too but not what we aimed for) w/330 Conibear. If you get the 330 Coni, get/make the tool to set them. Get a dead catch to hold the loaded trap while you place it. We used 4ft rebar to hold them in place. One per side thru the spring hole. Get a dozen of the small size for squirrel/rabbit.
    (Probably could catch a people in the 330 when set up just right as a foot trip.) The # is the lbs of clamping when tripped. 330 is 330lbs of force.
    ‘Minnesota Trapping’ is where I got my stuff.
    Trapping is interesting. Makes you have to think about how to outsmart the critter. Had ‘coons getting my chickens just before dusk almost every day. Intentionally made a hole in the pen and set the trap at the hole. Caught 9-10 that way.
    We set beaver traps in different places and were pretty successful. In the ‘run’ (basically a water-filled ditch) that the beaver made to his den. In a spot broken into the dam where he got trapped on the way to fix the leak. In the middle of the creek with sticks poked into the creek bottom in a vee funneling him into the trap (start out as wide as you can and work every foot or so for 10-12ft out leading to the trap.)
    Supposedly beavers build three dams and live nearest the first one in line. I never saw that in action but traps around some dams never caught a thing no matter what we tried.

  2. As far as traps, this is a good intro —

    A bit of a odd humor but good information.

  3. Of the items that the author mentioned the corona mill would be my first purchase. When nobody else can acquire flours you trot down to the feed store and buy the seeds and make your own.

    • You’re assuming the “feed store” will still be a resupply point?

      When we lived in an Amish/Mennonite rich area, they would assign one person as the “Order Clerk” to put in the superpail orders, and split the reduced shipping costs when the order came to a central location. Win/win for everyone.

      We’re currently working our way through our stash, (“Eat it or move it”) the family is getting pretty tired of lentils. A superpail of lentils is ALOT. I mean ALOT of food. I sneak those suckers into everything ….. meatloaf, chili, tacos….

      • Visited that link. $113 for for 42lbs of wheat. That’s 2/3 of a bushel. Wheat is currently trading at about $5/bushel. Ouch.

        • Thanks for letting me know, it’s been a while since we’ve placed an order. Like anything else, price comparison shopping is invaluable. I did some google-fu and see that Walmart is now stocking super pails of wheat, lentils, etc. Shipping usually is one of the biggest expenses, so if you can pool resources and do a group order (from whereever you order) it does make a difference.

          We only buy what I know my family will eat. For us that’s lentils, black beans, navy beans are the backbone of most our SHTF cooking and some red and white wheat for cooktop flat breads/bannock. Pinto beans are not popular su casa, but I am sure if you were hungry enough they would look and smell mighty inviting.

        • mike-nineroscarfour

          If you are in most of the midwest or the south the local elevator will take care of you at the low end.

          If you are devious, make a midnight run down at the corn field.

      • Based on historical norms of the past yes. In the first wave of a disruption the balance of the population favoring normalcy bias will do as they have always done till the shelves are bare. Lacking the tools to even process raw product it won’t even enter their minds to go elsewhere. (Or for that matter steal feed sacks from you.) Yes at some point even the feed store will run out.

        During the early Soviet days kulaks starved to death but their grain bins were full. A normalcy bias to not eat what they fed their livestock.

        • “During the early Soviet days kulaks starved to death but their grain bins were full. A normalcy bias to not eat what they fed their livestock.”

          It wasn’t “normalcy bias” that killed the kulaks. It was Stalin’s NKVD. Picture, if you will, a hungry child who is told there is no food to be had day after day but sees from the front porch a field full of wheat. Despite serious warnings from mother he sneaks to the edge of the field and plucks a single stalk and is rewarded with a 7.62*54r round in the chest.

          The grain in the bins was sold on the international market. The profits funded modernization/industrialization and covered up the failures of communism. The mass starvation and terror were a feature, not a bug

          You can’t have it both ways: “Country boy can survive… we can skin a buck; we can run a trotline” and “Dumb Kulaks starved because they didn’t know you can eat animal fodder in a pinch”. Kulaks were the smarter, more industrious peasants. Potential resisters to collectivization and had to be liquidated. You know, for the chiiiildren.

        • “Learned helplessness”.
          Important insight, and point well taken.
          To be fair though, it is my understanding (and there are loads of others out there who have a much keener appreciation for the finer details of this historical era than I ever will), the forced hunger was instituted in stages, the first stage being to confiscate the grain from the kulaks to be redistributed to the cities. Any kulak who was just to be not starving enough was suspected of food hoarding and/or theft and was subject to execution or deportation to the slave labor camps, so even “liberating” the grain for personal use would have been a certain death sentence.

          Initially, those slated for special treatment were those peasants deemed “wealthy”, ie: own any land. This continued to be adjusted down, to include anyone who owned any livestock of any type. And so on. They were all eventually deemed enemies of the state.

          Given the history within communism as food and food control as a weapon of genocide, the rhetoric spewed forth from the purple lips of the Head Narcissist In Chief make my blood run cold. “Sometimes you’ve made enough money” and “some people will have to give up their pieces of the pie” and EO’s to assume control of the food and water supply is just the same song in a different key – meanwhile, this Administration’s profligate in-your-face spending continues unabated.

          Silly me, that would be unpossible in these united states. We have a Constitution!

    • System Collapse will be an excellent opportunity to cut down on carbs

      • Disagree. Protein, especially prime cuts like chicken breast, beef steak, pork tenderloin, have been out of reach for the masses for most people since the dawn of agriculture. Better get used to tripe, sweet breads (thymus gland) and ox tail. Ever read what traditional chorizo is made of? Lymph nodes. Tasty, tasty lymph nodes. T-bones for our over Lords and lips and assholes for the little people.
        Of course, plenty of Ukrainian farmers would have loved beef poop shoot stew for Christmas dinner 1932. So I guess it’s all relative

        • Thanks for ruining chorizo for me


          • Virgil Kane

            Folks turn their noses up at chitt’lins, but eat sausage casings all day long. I don’t care what’s in chorizo. That’s good eating.

            • Yep. Might want to double the garden space for peppers, herbs, and spices.

              Ever wonder why “offal” and “awful” are so similar?

              Frankly, it’s the long pork I’m looking forward to the least. :-/

          • Traditional Chorizo is amazing. I have a good friend who makes it traditional style from a very old family recipie.

          • millwright

            A fun Thursday fact, a visit to National Beef in Dodge will reveal that
            the only thing that goes into the trash dumpster is the switch of the tail. Everything else is used in some way. Lymph nodes and all.
            Mmmm good!

  4. Good stuff on the grinding machines. Had thought that most households have at least a meat grinder; on reflection, maybe not so many do actually have such a thing. Especially when “the electricity” is taken off the board. Our meat grinder was made in the post-Commie Czech Republic. Works real fine, hand cranked. I used to help my Nana crank out sammich meat on her almost-identical hand crank grinder some fifty years back.

    For coffee grinding: we are not coffee snobs, we just like strong and fresh coffee. When we buy beans, they get ground up on a little wood-and-steel machine that has a May 5 1888 date proudly displayed on its hardware. Maybe the folks who made it thought that their product would be used for some time, no? Their product has long survived the makers of it, nice epitath.

    In an unknown future, a person versed in the food processing that old-school machines offer, is just as important in the local community scheme of things, as a rifle-less person who arrives at the campfire with a can of RAUFUS rounds.

    Flogging the dead horse: FUSA is dead, your neighborhood is your new country. Be a useful part of it. If a rational view says that your current neighborhood is untenable … then time is short for you to get out and find a better place.

  5. In addition to the grain mill, you might want a flour sifter. You’ll likely need to run some of it through the mill more than once.

    You’ll want to be able to grow your own yeast, too.

  6. Raised on lakes,ponds,swamps and creeks. Hornpout,snapping turtle, kivvers and muskrats were plentiful. Bullfrog baseball.
    The Polacks would buy all the snapping turtles. The Portagees bought up all the eels.
    Trapped fox,mink,beaver,rabbit, woodchucks and muskrat. Ran trot lines in ponds.Used rotten turkey heads as bait. Lots of food sources out there. Very few people will know how to process food product correctly without killing themselves and their families.
    Hygiene,disease,dehydration. The die off will be huge.
    No refrigeration.
    .Medicine , if available, will be cost prohibitive.
    ..You don’t have enough calcium hypochlorite
    The average Joe talking about living off the land is delusional. As a cog in your food producing mechanism,trapping is sound. I would caution anyone not familiar with traps to be wary. They will fuck you up. Fishing can be many things in addition to a food source.
    The overtaxing and poor conservation of vast areas is about to get worse.. Be a steward of the land. Protect it with your life.
    Mother Nature/Gaia will reward you.

    • Agree that the average person has Walter Mitty fantasies about taking a bug out bag and “living off the land”. The big game shows only show when they manage to bag something; they don’t show the days of waiting, often going home with nothing to show for it. It’s why I’m trying to condition my family NOW (mostly the men in the clan) to expect to have precious animal proteins plused up with pulses or whole grains. I’ve got the 50/50 ground meat/lentil campfire sloppy joe recipe finally locked down so that I no longer get grumbles about being deprived of their red meat. 😉

  7. Pete, fellow up in Nebraska name of Buckshot Hemming, bet you he would write you a real good post. Great guy, Buckshot is a life long trapper, really nice guy, has a pretty good site devoted to trapping, sells the essentials at decent prices. I use his snares, very fast and the locks are the best. One thing Buckshot has is snare rebuild kits, these are priceless in my experience. Buckshot also has a couple of books, (basically down and dirty how to trap manuals, common sense living), that should be mandatory reading for anyone aspiring to living off the land. Survival or thriving. Many pooh pooh trapping, but what is rarely understood about trapping is it is a incredible labor/time saver, and the quantity of meat to be secured far exceeds any hunter gatherer, even farming method there is on that score. Of course, long as game is to be found in your AO.
    Buckshots site is chock full of great down to earth info and tales. Highly underrated guy who lives it.

  8. Virgil Kane

    I’ve been told by a couple of different buddies that the best way to catch a coyote is with a piece of meat on a large treble hook suspended from a tree. They’re both tough sumbitches and both said you better have the stomach for it.

  9. Virgil Kane

    Anybody have a good review on meat grinders? I’ve looked off and on for a few months and can’t find any consistently glowing review on new ones.

    • The problem with a lot of folks reviewing the new ones is that they take it out of the box and just start using it. They have to be seasoned and have a break in period just like cast iron cookware.

  10. rightwingterrorist

    I wrote up a little bit for Kenny this last winter on trapping squirrel and rabbit with 110 conabear, complete with pictures.
    Maybe he still has it.
    I was going to at least send a pic or two on the set.
    But can’t post pictures here.

  11. rightwingterrorist

    If it so pleases you, I could do a bit of a basic primer write up with some pictures, but I’ll need an address to send it.

  12. von einem Leser

    I enthusiastically endorse Buckshot Hemming.

    His book “The New Buckshot’s Complete Survival Trapping Guide” is worth many times more than the $20 price at Amazon. He has very, very practical advice on how to trap anything, legal or not. Ever been curious how large and how high a snare needs to be to nab a deer? He’ll tell you.

    A dozen conibear 110s and a half dozen 220s should be in every garage. They are cheap now but priceless later.

    I also strongly encourage the square bucket set for 220s. Get the square plastic buckets that chain is dispensed from at hardware stores–they fit the conibear 220s perfectly. Death on raccoons, possums, and feral cats and very easy to bait. Do be careful to keep it out of the reach of dogs, children, etc.

    Conibears are as unforgiving as firearms–but sometimes even more useful.

  13. Great article. We have pretty much two of everything, except the corn device. Been collecting Husqvarna meat grinders from the past. Amazing what can be found at a garage sale.

    I’ve got thirty or forty traps, I’ve never used. ” rainy day stuff” when Safeway can’t meet my needs, I’ll start trapping.

    As for a hook, a piece of meat and coyotes, no can do. Shit I just buried my faithful old dog of 15 years two Thursday’s ago. Buried her with her favorite ball, and a couple dog treats for her trip.

    I like my animals better then I like people. They just get it!


  14. Imagine what a war, currency collapse or otherwise might do to the supply of all sorts of goods currently coming from overseas.

    Ham radios, oem batteries for handhelds, little fold up solar panels, external USB batteries, etc would become unobtanium very quickly.

    Pity the people who are left with smoke signals and bird whistles in the woods for commo when the blue helmets roll in.

    • One look at marine traffic online and the slowdown is obvious. Most people think a temporary power outage or storm is enough to cause them to panic. Now imagine that scenario for weeks on end. Not looking forward to it, hope we can get a “bye” in the planetary disaster bracket. 😦

  15. Eating the voters and their employees gets you two wins at once, food today and less government in the future. Plenty of Democrat liberals to feed to your hogs, that will get you through a season while you take the farmland back from the Republican liberals. America is still a rich place, that’s why such a high rate of government parasites per worker can be supported. Remove the loss from taxation and regulation and you’ll be amazed how rich you are. Normalcy bias means you regard ordinary middle class voters as your class allies. Oops.

  16. mike-nineroscarfour

    I would suggest having hand tools to for making firewood. Ax, saws, splitting tools.

    • rightwingterrorist

      Goes without saying, unless you like to be cold.
      I heat just about mostly with wood, sure I’ve got the old gas back-up, but this last winter my gas bill averaged about $40 a month (mostly for hot water), and I live with 3 girls and a woman.

  17. While we’re on traps and food don’t forget mouse traps. Guard your preps jealously or the little furry section eight bastards will ruin what they can’t eat.