A Russian Warning


Via Club Orlov, this stark message:

…We now feel that it is our duty, as Russians living in the US, to warn the American people that they are being lied to, and to tell them the truth. And the truth is simply this:

If there is going to be a war with Russia, then the United States will most certainly be destroyed, and most of us will end up dead…


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51 responses to “A Russian Warning

  1. I myself, a child of the cold war and devout anti-Soviet am inclined to agree with the assessment.

    It is one thing to read the wests characterization of the Russian bear in various military and current events publications, and another to read Putins own speeches.

    I find it ironic that the Western pundits paint Russia in one light as this fierce foe etc etc.

    Yet on the other hand I read Putins translated speech to the Duma not long ago and it was purely something Ronald Reagan would have said. I found myself agreeing with his words as he touched on corruption, defending the faith, fiscal responsibility, and all manner of issues that 1980’s conservatives would be agreeing with.

    Then it has occurred to me to ask: What has changed now?

    What has changed is that the West is now the Soviet state and the Russian state have nearly swapped ideology from what was the norm 30 years ago.

    During the beginning of the Soviet era, many Russians fled overseas to become known as the White Russians. A very large block of Russian exiles.

    Think about how that turned out. Will you be in the next group of exiles from the FUSA?

    • I also grew up w/ the cold war/massive strike/nuclear winter scenario.

      I’m less inclined to believe a massive nuclear exchange will happen. A limited strike or a few suitcase nukes in a few locations are certainly a possibility.

  2. Decades ago there was an extensive study authorized by congress on the effects of nuclear warfare. It was published and available at US government publication depositories which are found in some public libraries. That’s where I found a copy and read it.

    It looked at three different scenarios. One, an all out nuclear strike, the worse case. Two, a limited surgical strike on military bases including strategic weapons sites. Three, a terrorist attack involving one nuclear weapon set off in a dense urban center such as New York.

    The expected casualties were far different among the three; of course the worse was the first which would produce casualties on the order of 50% pf the US population (in the late 1970s). The second produce ed far fewer casualties, maybe 25% or less and the last produced less than one million casualties based on the expected yield of a small weapon, the attenuation of large buildings, and terrain effects.

    I’d suggest this worried about a potential nuclear war from Russia obtain a copy and read it.

    My concern is not Russia.

    My concern is Israel which has between 200 and 300 nuclear weapons of unknown yield size and are totally controlled by the most immoral people on planet earth.

    • My concern is the people in DC.

      • Heh. Ditto (for reasons I articulated to you awhile back).

      • SameNoKami

        Be a real shame to lose DC and all our national leaders.

      • SemperFi, 0321

        And if all the big politicians make it out beforehand, is it still a miss? I think not.

      • as well. In fact the warmongering US Judeo-neoConz/Cuck calculation seems to be this: Israel, where c. 1/3 of the world’s Jewish population actually lives, is sufficiently far south of the main blast effect/radioactive zone for them to mostly survive…while the northern hemisphere White nations – Russia/Europe/North America – are wiped out. I mean, why wait for open-borders Judeo- globalization and culturally-engineered White birthrate collapse to work their exterminative magic in 50-70 years…when you can get it all done right now in one bright flash

      • Indeed, the eye of Saron form mordor on the potomac is more worrisome to me than the jews .loosening their Sampson opposion of nukkes.

      • When it comes to “the most immoral people on planet earth”, it looks like Pat still gives free passes to Swiss/German/Italian pagans performing open rituals in the heart of Europe:

        Gets really interesting at 4:25.

        Dignitaries in attendance included Merkel, Renzi, Hollande, Christian Kern and other….christians-in-name-only:

        The ceremony moved from outside to inside the tunnel and included a simulated orgy on a train. Europeans really love their trains.

        I guess Pat will be standing by at the station to hand out more free passes for muslim arabs and atheist chinese.

      • outlawpatriot

        Oh, for Christ’s sake Peter. Whatsa matta you? It”s the Jews! IT’S THE JEWS! IT’S THE MOTHERFUCKING JEWS!!!!



    • Not complete without this:

    • ” Israel which has between 200 and 300 nuclear weapons of unknown yield size and are totally controlled by the most immoral people on planet earth.”

      That is utter nonsense.

      • Dan Frain

        Since you know, please share. How many nukes does Israel have REALLY?

        • My point was the “most immoral people” slander, not the number of weapons Israel may have. Did you really fail to understand my post, or were you being deliberately obtuse?

  3. Stealth Spaniel

    The whole reason that the current crop of DC Imbeciles hate Russia is that it is white, Christian (mostly), homogeneous, and refuses to push the LGBT & Environmental agenda. That is enough to get Russian labled the enemy. Getting into a war with Russia does not end well-for anyone.
    At least Putin likes Trump. Hildabeast, Fauxcohontas, and Biden will simply continue leading us to a smoking ruin.

  4. SemperFi, 0321

    Map strikes me as weak disinformation, such as in the Idaho Falls area, I have had many friends working there, and been thru the area untold times. And WTF is with SW Wyoming?, unless someone really truly wants LP dead. 🙂

    • SI 0321: We have more silos scattered around in a 125-150 mi area in N Colo and S Wyo and W Neb than you can believe. How many are armed vs decoy?… we proles don’t have a clue. Then we have Buckley, Martin Mar. or what ever the name of the week, the bases in Colo Spgs, Warren in Cheyenne, Ellsworth in Rapid City and the list goes on. Self cooking popcorn on the menu…..Soapweed

    • se wyo is where chyene mtn and norad is stationed ,norad was outside in northern colo till recently but has just started moving back inside cheyene mtn . also se wyo an up in nd is where our largest minuite man missles are stationed . it ts one of the reasons I felt it wasnt the place for me and my family . if it gets real sporty that place will be glassed over a foot and a half thick ! also keep in mind the largest coal mine in the world up in northern wyo then all the gas and oil reserves in all those states along with urainium coupled with very low population density it would be a very high priority target

      • SemperFi, 0321

        I know about FE Warren/Cheyenne but the map also shows Rock Springs/Green River area. Yes, they could have targeted some of the mines. I figured they were after Lost Patrol.
        And yes, these may be compilations of old maps.

  5. Considering the current administration’s view of the United States of America I believe we could be conquered without the use of Atomic weapons. Land troops on the left coast and stay there. The east coast will collapse because of no Hollywood stars telling us what to do. The way to our true freedom is through left minority free zone EBT users of portapotties by LGBT’s according to the left coast clowns anyway.

  6. Jimmy the Saint

    From the article: “Each time Russia had been invaded, she emerged victorious.”

    The Mongols respectfully disagree, as do the Kaiser’s forces, and the Allied forces from the Crimean War. Zombie Admiral Togo would also like to quietly point at the scoreboard and remind them that they got utterly bitched.

    “In 1812 Nepoleon invaded Russia; in 1814 Russian cavalry rode into Paris. On June 22, 1941, Hitler’s Luftwaffe bombed Kiev; On May 8, 1945, Soviet troops rolled into Berlin.”

    They didn’t do it alone in either instance; they were part of much, much larger wars. I respect Russian toughness; but they are something less than the Hand of God, smiting all who oppose them.

    “But such a fight would be suicidal for all sides. ”

    They get annihilated, too – kind of an important point to gloss over. Hopefully, the decision makers on both sides will smarten up.

    • “…Hopefully, the decision makers on both sides will smarten up.”

      Are you kidding yourself with such hope?

      Look at that crop of “leadership,” over the course of your life.

      Not confidence inspiring, in my estimation.

      • Jimmy the Saint

        Kidding myself? No. Given the list of dolts who’ve held the reigns in both the White House and the Kremlin since 1945, there’s still never been a nuclear exchange. We’ve come close, but someone in the line (including at least once, someone as lowly as a colonel) has always decided not to launch.

        That doesn’t guarantee that it will always work out that way, but it has so far.

  7. Anonymous

    Financial centers would lie in ruins. Government at every level would cease to function. US armed forces, stationed all around the globe, would no longer be resupplied.

    These would be good things. The smaller the government, the better the people do, and the people do best when there is no parasite called government at all. There is little difference in meaning today between United States and Union of Socialist Republics. How many tens of millions did your big, strong government in Russia genocide? At least they were starved to death in the name of the people!

    • Government at all levels would not cease to function. Sheriffs, county commissioners, governors, etc are not going to become suddenly irrelevant. Those who can muster force will still be players. Loners and the unaligned will still be loners and unaligned and just as irrelevant as they are now. But, those who organize (or remain organized) and form groups (or already have one) with a chain of command will still take charge of their space. The bigger the force multipliers the better.

      That also doesn’t rule out those coming in from the outside (UN, EU, Mexico, etc) to carve up what’s left of FUSA. They’re not going to just sit at home while there’s booty for the taking. The Cubans could land in Key West under a UN flag with the blessing of a FUSA COG representative.

      The fantasy of a decapitation strike on DC making things “better” where you get to live in your local area without someone eventually coming by dictating to you is just that, a fantasy.

      • Thank you, Sir. Absolutely bedrock human nature correct.

        Sick to death of the anarchist wet dream. It’ll get more people killed or enslaved. Pretty theories and elegant arguments do not = reality.

        • outlawpatriot

          Ooo… Buppy’s not gonna like you very much. 🙂

          • Gotta admit though, he can sure impress himself with elegance and erudition. 😉

            I don’t dislike him as much as you do. He does write well, think deeply and despises the despicable with a flourish, fearlessly!

    • Jimmy the Saint

      “Government at every level would cease to function.”

      The government would chug right along like nothing happened. It’s almost like Skynet now – it’s everywhere.

  8. That targeting map is badly out of date.
    In New York State alone it targets; Seneca Army Depot, Griffiss Airforce Base and Plattsburgh Airforce Base all of which are and have been closed.
    Unless the Russians wish to destroy failed economic recovery zones.

    • One Russian Satan 2 Stealth Nuke has the capability of now wiping New York, not the city, but state, into a pile of rubble. That is one warhead out of 10 it carries.

  9. And the fallout and residual radiation footprint from a major strike pretty much eliminates anything but western NorCal and southern OR as survivable habitat, based on typical prevailing winds.

    And intermediate-level non-lethal radiation exposure pretty much butt-rapes your immune system, to the point that normal colds and flus would become pandemics for many of the survivors, particularly east of the Mississippi where pop. density is much higher.

    You can, of course, do very well in the short term with from 3′-6′ of earth shelter overhead, but at some point you have to venture out again and try to grow crops or raise animals.

    And you can measure radiation levels personally where your shelter is, right??

    Putin, hopefully, isn’t a lunatic. Even with our relatively gutted nuclear defenses, a nuclear exchange with the Soviet Union pretty much obliterates most life in the Northern Hemisphere for between decades and a century, and resets planetary population back a few centuries or so, after the collapse of the global system. (That assumes China, India, Pakistan, etc. don’t decide to get in on the fun too, which wipes out most of Asia.)

    If Putin wants to see (from a ringside seat in the afterlife) what society would look like a century from now run by South America and Africa, after his country and ours cease to functionally exist, full-scale global thermonuclear war is a great way to find that out.

  10. If I’m Russia I’m waiting as long as I can for FUSA to drop like Building 7.

    Even though we haven’t been hit by a plane I suspect we will fall @ freefall speeds, it’s the age old story of hot office fires deep within the structure melting the steel…….In fact Building 7 could be a metaphor for the entire shit show at this point.

  11. Howard Dennard

    I too lived thru the “cold war” era . In fact spent a good portion of it in the Military Intelligence Field.
    Due to digital advancements and better understanding of nuclear warfare. Russia (or other opposing country ) would not do a cold war attack, but (in my opinion) an attack would consist of large scale hacking of military and government systems, a massive EMP attack, and surgical nuclear attack.
    Most physical damage will be to government and military targets ,large scale death (both military and civilian) from both nuclear effects and secondary effects of EMP. All this would leave a demoralize civilian population with very little or no government support system. Most land is immediately useable for occupying military.
    Remember an army needs to occupy the land, both to pacify to population and the use of natural resources. Thus the need for less nuclear fallout and structural damage.

  12. If DC were the sole target, perhaps the Russians would be seen not as invaders, but as deliverers…

  13. Interesting that the “targets” in Kentucky are all cold war bases that have been closed or “downsized” to near inactivity for decades. (like Ft Knox and “the Blue Grass Army Ord. Depot” ) They DON’T list the only active duty base in the state. Nor does it list any of the Federal .Gov secret police concentrations and comms centers. If that holds true for the rest of the country then I’m throwing the “bullshit and propaganda” flag. If Russia wanted to hit military targets this map is 30 years out of date for Kentucky and I suspect for the rest of America as well. It makes me wonder who is fear mongering and why.

  14. The problem with old nuke strike targeting maps in the public domain is that a lot has changed since they were published. Military bases, units in the US have been closed or moved. Strategic assets that exist now did not exist then or are in different locations (think commo hubs, internet hubs, data warehouses, Theater Command HQ’s ( Southern Command, etc), relocation bunkers etc. Over the years the Sovs/Russians have improved their targeting ability a bit. Additionally the numbers of nuke armed missiles has changed fairly dramatically.
    All that to say- why waste missiles on population centers indiscriminately if you are a Russian planner. Maybe you just want to knock out C3ISR stuff, the US Nuclear force and deployment capability.
    So take some of these old maps with a grain of salt- and depending on who produced them back when understand that some where pure propaganda to prove that a nuclear exchange was completely un winnable and hence the US should not prepare.

  15. @SemperFi, 0321: There is absolutely nothing going on with SW Wyoming. Perhaps you mean SE Wyoming? SE Wyoming, W Nebraska, NE Colorado are all areas where we have land-based nuclear delivery systems, (aka nuclear silos). Although this map is old, most of the silos are still there.

  16. All posturing aside (which there is a great deal of from both ends- the article and the laity) the risk of nuclear confrontation is, and always has been, low in regard to a massive two state exchange. That risk is marginally higher between Pakistan and India, an area virtually no one among the laity ganders any attention to. The likelyhood of a small scale attack on our shores by motivated factions is, however, a different matter, but not acheivable without significant outside aid. Read into that what you will.

    What is more concerning is the economic warfare and political maneuvering occuring-BRICS, the placation of both Cuba and Iran though agreements with the West, the regime change quietly happening simultaneously in both Venezuela and Brazil (which are both Oil rich, and have Soros interests rooted there- read into that what you will) and coupled with policy contrary to the economic survival of the West. It’s happening from within. The political actors we frequently derid are misunderstood- they’ve been groomed, and their replacements even moreso trained in Bolshevism, albeit homegrown. And that was easily exploited by the rezidentura programs from the Soviets with the groundwork already laid, among others.

    Dr. Roberts should also be dismissed, as he was from Reagan’s administration, as for years now he’s simply told an audience what they simply wish to hear with attached catchphrases such as “neocon”. Opinions aside, his credibility is on par with Webster Tarpley. Should he rely more on his own academic background(in economics) and not what he apparently and demonstrably knows little about, he’d be far more viable as a source of information. It is more important to cite real sources on nuclear proliferation, those who don’t often address the conspiracy crowd.

    The Russian Federation is indeed significantly behind technologically and financially- they didn’t leave Syria because of a mission complete; they cannot continue to proect their forces. It is unfortunate because it seems Putin is the sole honest broker in the mix. Despite a rapid modernization, and an incredible restructuring at the small unit level from reforms Putin made directly upon seizing power amid the Chechen conflict, they are a regional power. A strong one, but regional. As are we these days, whether we can admit it or not.

    Conflict can and should be dissuaded from through building of a better partnership with the Russian Federation, something Trump has expressed interest in, whether genuine or not. The politboro of both parties do not want this, as it’s bad for the war industry, hence the backdoor Hillary support from the “neocons” or “cuckservatives” or whatever they’re being called today. This view is different from that expressed by Orlov and associates, however achieves the same goal abroad.

  17. A US – Russian exchange is to my mind a low order threat. But a third party (take your pick of current level two nuke players) doing so by unconventional means? That to me is where the problem will come from.

  18. This is a no brainer. The Russian Orthodox Church declares holy war on Jihad.

    While our president creates ISIS and dawdles the Russians stand up to Islam. My guess is when Killary tried to reset the relationship with Russia she discovered they were no longer fond of communism.

  19. cuttahotha

    If the Russians are smart, there is no need to go nuclear unless the U.S. lights the candle first. The condition of our fighting forces and equipment could not sustain any prolonged conflict and any attempt to jin up the capacity to do so would kill the economy. Nope, all the Russians have to do is play “rope-a-dope” and then when our supply chain goes slack, attack with conventional forces. More likely, the U.S. will just continue to instigate former warsaw pact countries and watch them get summarily squashed. Europe is a different story with their own fish to fry. They will soon become a mooslime caliphate and as such will pose a different threat to the Russian Federation.

  20. Marlo Stanfield

    Bull Shit!

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  21. Why are they targeting Naples, Fl? What a shame.

  22. Uh, I should like to point out that anyone who starts a nuclear war with the US will hardly escape unscathed, and quite possibly get incinerated themselves. To all you Russkies over at Club Orlov, yeah, that’s real nice. It’s good to see all that brainwashing and propaganda and fear mongering in Russia, either communist or R. Federal didn’t go to waste. But give it a rest. And if I were y’all, and Russia DOES initiate a nuclear attack on the US, if you don’t get killed by it outright, you can count your life in seconds, which is what it will take for survivors here to find you, and string your Russkie asses up. Dasvidanya! German American Bundists, and Japanese fanatics here warned us about taking their masters on, too.

  23. Chuckwalla

    How far down the Exumas chain of the Bahamas would you have to be to miss the prevailing winds?

  24. Risible. To even entertain the realities of “MAD” is Reducio ad Absurdum about MAD is beyond farcical. The planet (GAIA) will survive nukes but many humans will not. The real valuable data & historalogical artifacts are underground in the DUMBs. The real problem is the psychopaths behind the joysticks & bankers printing the $ paying them off. We all were all lied to regarding the real US History. Our country was sold off by Grant after the Civil War to the DC Corporation running & ruining the planet. The fraud vitiates all of it anyways & the bankers know that. That is why they cannot now just claim ownership. So we have to eradicate the treasonus amoral scum one by one if we are able to (which is highly doubtful) before the big show starts. The chaos & suffering that will ensure after a world economic planetary crash removing cash from our planetary societies is ineffable. Boggles mind to even think that it would be a simple walk in the park.
    Time is neigh & the fuse is short.

  25. From Beggar’sBanquet.