True Dat

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Tempus fugit.

25 responses to “True Dat

  1. Bovine Feces. It is entirely possible to grow food in cities. Urban food forests and gardens are a thing. The fact that it isn’t done on a large, sustainable scale presently doesn’t mean you can’t do it. The question is, when you have large parts of the nation better suited for mass farming, why you would bother trying to ramp up large scale urban food production? What scenario is being planned for where food truck would not be delivering food to the urban customers the farmers depend upon? Who is this guy, Kurt? Looking at his twitter feed he seems to spend all day texting about crap that really means nothing in the long run.

    • You can’t grow enough food in cities to avoid cannibalism, and 5000 years of history proves it…

    • See Mr. Hines below, Mr. Raacke. The cities have the “Strength” of their “Diversity.” And as long as that situation exists, the statement is EXACTLY correct. Or do you think that those in the cities with no standing on the Preferred Species ladder are going to be able to do anything about the “cultural” differences of those with such standing?

      Money quote:
      You can take the chimp out of the jungle, but you can’t take the jungle out of the chimp.

    • Of course you can grow food in cities. The question is, do people there have the equipment, knowledge and TIME to do so? If a situation comes about quickly, the answer to all 3 of those is a resounding “NO!”

      Oh, and the time factor is this: once the store shelves empty out, you’re out of time. There is a mad rush every Friday after Thanksgiving to save $50 on a TV, or to get the latest and greatest toy that the spoiled little kids want, resulting in trampling deaths and fights. What does anyone think will happen when people have no FOOD? Don’t succeed on Black Friday, and you have to deal with disappointment. Don’t succeed in a food crisis, and you and your kids starve (or have to eat the dog, pigeons, rats, etc.)…rather more serious consequences, no? So, in about 3 days (at best), every city will be in the midst of civil unrest like no one in this country has EVER seen – it will be medieval. Millions will starve, nationwide, and millions will be killed or badly injured in fighting over food. This applies to suburbs, too, but to a somewhat lesser extent.

    • Whether you can or cannot grow food in an urban environment is not the issue. It is whether the urban architecture can provide the water. Talk to any farmer, when they talk water usage they use the term acre-feet NOT gallons. (1 acre-foot ~= 326,000 gal). To grow 200 bushel of corn (approx 1 acre yield, 11,200#) requires ~2 acre-feet of water. On average a typical American consumes 33# of corn product alone annually.

      Take Chicago, 2.7m people. 89Bn# of corn products consumed. 39 acres required for yield. 79.5 acre-feet of water needed. That is 25Bn gals of water needed to water one crop. Chicago water dept capacity is 1Bn gals delivery.

      How do they deliver the other 24Bn gals irrespective of sitting on top of the largest lake in the US?

  2. In the cities, the ((canadians))) and (((eskimos))) will eat the seed corn and kill the bull.

    • No matter where you are, the trick is to survive the “excitement” that will happen for a few months or until the next spring. Gather and preserve the individuals you need. Enforce hand washing. Things will calm down after some hunger and cholera is spread around.

      There’s no low-hanging fruit in a city full of chimps in about 3 days. There’s not a clean latrine without armed guards when the power goes out. Ask a janitor of a public toilet how thick civilization is in their community. People will “just go anywhere” as the thin veneer of civilization wears off.

      Some places will be more comfortable than others, but there is survivable micro-terrain everywhere, if you can spot it and use it. As threats and opportunities evolve, safe places become dangerous and dangerous spaces become ignored. Moving targets are harder to attack.

      Running and hiding is almost a plan. Where and how?

  3. While growing food in the cities IS being done, and some of it large scale, the bulk of staples like corn, wheat and rice, etc, are not being grown large scale there. It could be done, but presently isn’t. What Kurt is alluding to is the fact that diesel fuel and large trucks are critically essential to food delivery, right now, in the cities.The most important link, is the diesel and the trucks. Both the trucks and the fuel have very complicated and long trains to complete them. Highways and bridges are also very important links. Almost everything we eat is dependent in major ways on fossil fuel to be created, harvested, processed, and delivered. Like Kurt also says, once the trucks get targeted, there are fewer of them, and even fewer willing to drive them. When hordes of dindus and others will not listen to reason, and steal it all when in gets in the city, the hunger of everyone who didn’t get in on the action grows, and more stealing, looting, etc. happens. Hoarding occurs. Food in now a weapon, for whoever has it. Remaining govt. entities act the same way. Useless eaters start dying in 30 days, with lots more to follow. Sanitation and disease sweeps many more up, which will make even more people relocate. Fewer people to grow and harvest means less food, where ever it is produced, and on and on. There are about 25 critical bridges over the Mississippi and Missouri rivers. If they are gone/blocked/unusable, a whole shitload of food commerce in the US grinds to a halt. Mountains of grain move on those rivers destined for US and foreign markets, by barge. With those rivers blocked by downed or occupied bridges, same thing, only worse. Very few ferries across the rivers can carry the large trucks.

  4. everlastingphelps

    You can’t grow enough food to sustain the city in the city. That’s the point.

    Also, coming from a family full of OTR truckers, the rebels will have it easy. The drivers will bring the truck right to their yard for them to “hijack” it rather than drive into a city in chaos.

    • Good too would be Intel on what sorts of pallets are stacked up at the local “JITS” warehouses where those folks haul from.

      Those distribution centers are the real gold mines while everyone else battles for the last bag of Cocoa Puffs at the big box stores

  5. Uncle Larry

    Even if one could grow food in the cities, could they grow enough to feed most? Cities with harsh winters? How long do the city denizens have to wait for the growing season to end and harvest? It ain’t gonna happen. The population of the city will surrender or die.

  6. The problem is not so much the growing of food, which can happen pretty well in cities too. The problem is keeping your food once you grow it, and being able to sell or trade it before it gets snatched. That is a problem for both urban and rural people; however I believe it is more difficult in an urban environment. But don’t imagine the government will not nationalize farms if it suits the rulers to do so.

  7. The survivors in the city might be able to grow enough food. If they knew how.

  8. Trucks continuing to flow after Bad Times begins ? How long will available fuel last to pump into the tractor trailers ? Who is going to continue to work refineries after Bad Times begin ? Who will supply the crude needed to refine anyway ?

    One cog in supply chain stops and a whole lot of problems begin. Like a snake eating its own tail.

  9. Alfred E. Neuman

    Reblogged this on ETC., ETC., & ETC..

  10. I hate mass production farmers. Those asswipes think they’re doing the world a favor by feeding it? The way i see it, they’re the ones who enabled the blue hives to thrive and vote more freeshit from those who actually produce. I don’t see any problem at all with the citiots killing and eating each other. In the end, those city people are going to murder the farmers by proxy. The farmers are feeding their executioners, history does rhyme doesn’t it?

  11. Urbanites just need lattes abd tapas to survive.

  12. Since the advent of ‘commercial’ farming vs small rural farming (sometime in the 1920 – 1930’s) most do not either know how to grow their own food, prepare (now in this day and age) food from scratch or otherwise preserve food. The industry from seed to final sale (or in the case of animal protein from ‘inception’ to final pretty packing) is based on a strict delivery system and if that system is broken (at any point) most of those dependent will starve: period. Just because a city dweller may be able to (if they are so inclined) grow their own food, does not in any way mean they will – try if you are so inclined to only grow your own (and by extension your families food) for a year – see how that works out for you. Disruption (think fourth generation warfare) in any form (be it disrupting the power grid, water supplies or food deliveries) will create havoc and eventually if sustained, death and destruction to a great many folks. Just ‘food’ for thought ……

  13. The city of St. Petersburg, at the time renamed Leningrad by the liberals’ heroes, is a case study of what happens in a starving city. They spent most of WWII surrounded by the Germans, with only a trickle of supplies coming in, and even then only when the lakes were frozen solid enough to drive over.

    They used every patch of arable land inside the city, with patriotic fervor and wartime altruism for their fellow citizen (i.e. things you won’t find in any of our Blue Hives today), and despite these herculean efforts there were so many people dying of starvation that bodies were just piled up in the street to rot. Or to become a meal for those still alive.

    So yeah, you could probably churn out a surprising level of production in a city if all the growing spaces were used intelligently, and you had a population skilled in how to do it. Does that sound like one of our typical Hives? Especially with them getting smacked with the cluebat only after things have gone from Frisky to Spicy?

    Schlichter’s thesis stands.

  14. Marlo Stanfield

    Wear electronic ears to hear those ultra quiet Hinds while playing in an open environment while wearing tight jeans.

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  15. DWEEZIL THE WEASEL

    If one goes to the John Galt Shenandoah website, there is a blogvel on there titled: THE DAY THE DOLLAR DIED. It pretty much spells out what will happen. It scared the peanuts out of my M&Ms.

  16. Can food be grown in an urban environment ?
    Yes. But those who want to grow the food better be practicing now. You can’t just wake up one day and decide to ‘grow stuff’ and have it magically happen.
    Personally, I’d be moving out now while the gettin’ is good.

  17. Steve Kristmann

    It’s definitely time to revisit one of Matt’s best:

    Bracken: When The Music Stops – How America’s Cities May Explode In Violence
    https://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/bracken-when-the-music-stops-how-americas-cities-may-explode-in-violence/

    The list:
    Tribe that can be trusted both ways
    Water (and way to provide safe amounts of it)
    Food (6 months at minimum for you and yours; longer
    if at all possible)
    Non GMO hybrid seed stock and knowledge of gardening/
    farming and way/place to grow.
    Defense Firearms (mil. pattern semiauto in .308/ and
    .40 or .45…AR15/AK (better than nothing).
    Ammo (10K+ in needed calibers)
    Meds
    Training & PT
    Commo and reliable transport.

    Don’t be anywhere near ‘cities’ they’re going to be deathtraps!

    Yours In Liberty!
    NorthGunner III

  18. Stealth Spaniel

    Most city dwellers are used to being fed. Think about it. If a city-ite is cooking from scratch, they think in terms of using readily packaged items and pretending to be chefs. Tell the next Food Network Star that they first have to catch, behead, and pluck that chicken before they think of exotic spices and roasting times. People are also used to full meals now. My mom was born in 1920: when the Depression showed up, my grandmother cooked one chicken for 12 people. They also ate lots of noodle soup, cooked veggies, and bread. Nowadays, one person expects a half chicken on their plate. Preppers preach the virtues of sun ovens or rocket stove, but how many people in the city actually own one? Do city-ites have a way to cook without gas or electricity? And do they have the skill? My grandma’s stove was a cast iron behemoth from 1890 that was fired with wood: always burning, water always hot, numerous warming drawers to heat food, raise bread, or dry diapers: 7 burners from small to griddle size. Try that with a $10,000 Viking. When the cities start to collapse, the chaos and mayhem will be such a shock to most hive dwellers, that the thought of cooking, let alone raising food, will go out the window. In your preps, it’s a good idea to have lots of instant/presto things. And PLENTY OF WATER!

  19. Give the trucker a small patch of land on the back 50. Tell him to bring his truck, his family and make it work.

    Truckers are the first ones to see the writing on the wall. I doubt they’d need much convincing, and rural areas absent industrial farming techniques are going to need a lot more hands for production and protection.