TOWR: Are There Informants In Your Group?

snitch

Why wouldn’t there be?

Read and heed.

See also this free download on the topic from Ms. Wolfe.

rats-cover-450x600

51 responses to “TOWR: Are There Informants In Your Group?

  1. Alfred E. Neuman

    Reblogged this on ETC., ETC., & ETC..

  2. I think you will find that about one in five Americans are paid informants

    • That’s somewhere between 60 and 70 million people. Do you have any evidence that nearly 70 million people in the US are being paid to snitch?

      • Yes. Every single government employee. And the figure is more like 50%. We live under communism right now. Or is it 90%? What percentage of jobs rely on the government? The figure includes not only all of the affirmative action “make work” jobs directly employed by the government, but also all of the law jobs and even all “private sector” jobs in any company with over 10 employees.

        The government literally controls the means of production, right now. Even when it does not directly own the property, it “owns” and centrally plans everything via regulations, EEOC, “anti-discrimination” laws, hiring mandates, taxes, incentives, etc.

        It is literally impossible to be a true “small business owner” other than being a very small operation such as a shoe repair man, plumber, non-franchised restaurant, electrician, small farmer, or the owner of one of these crappy dollar stores in a strip mall. All of these ventures are destined to fail. Nobody can compete with Wal-Mart, Amazon, Target, twitter.

        Literally any employment with a “private sector” company in the Fortune 1000 is government employment. The issue of affirmative action alone proves this. The government picks and chooses winners.

        Any African who can (barely) read and write, with IQ approaching 95, is tapped for a great job and a nice middle class life. For a white person to get the same life, he has to be a top 15% type in IQ and actual SKILLS that provide value for people. The idea of “white privilege,” of course, is total BS. Consider the men of Appalachia and the blue collar men everywhere else.

        Literally tens of millions of men with IQs between 105 and 115, who could have been engineers or doctors, are working as plumbers and construction workers and fishermen — that’s what men do. Meanwhile tens of millions of women and Africans are working cushy make-work desk jobs, being paid by government, to literally do NOTHING that adds any value to anything.

        • Hence the declining productivity numbers–the AA minorities getting hired are not very productive, on average. The men getting fired were much more productive….

        • Eminencefrontman

          Well said sir: huzzah to you.

    • Source or justification, maybe? The Stasi used to hold the unofficial record at one in eight.

      • Your Stasi number sounds about right to my recollection. Yep; lots of BS numbers being tossed around hereabouts. Maybe those doing so should just concede the OPFOR its win so they don’t have to do the work.

    • That would seem like a golden opportunity to spread dis-info…. If one were so inclined.

    • Your wife will turn on you in a second if they threaten to take her kids.
      Everybody these days is a potential Quisling.

  3. De-centralization, I don’t need to know what others are doing to know what’s right and necessary anymore than they need to know what I’m doing. Tight knit groups of people you’ve known since childhood and ruthless retribution to any and all snitches. As always, keep your fuckin mouth shut. It’s a simple matter of taking responsibility, thus lightening the “work load” for any and all participants while making it equally difficult for those who would oppress.

  4. “One thing that a lot of people do is assume that someone teaching a class is automatically trustworthy, or that prominent people must be solid because they’re ‘so high up in the movement.”

    As soon as I hear or read about “some instructor” running things over with “local cops, state cops, and feds” as well as one actually being a cop, that’s enough for me to base a “drop ’em like a hot potato” decision on…
    if anyone is talking with or hanging around fucking cops, run away as fast as you can. Then change all your planning operations and start over – if you even get the chance…

    In the end, you cannot trust anybody. I don’t even trust my own mother anymore. If they fly that us rag – they are not to be trusted. It shows they are pro .gov and will turn you in as soon as it benefits them.

    U.S. Military flag
    If you fly this flag in front of your home,
    You are signifying your home as a military
    installation! You are allowing occupation!

  5. How about…. don’t talk about or do illegal shit? If you are getting together to train, that’s not illegal. You’re just running around…..training. Self-defense. If you’re not doing, or discussing anything illegal, who cares if you have a snitch? Send the douche out for biscuits. Make him go find some chow line, or a wood stretcher.

    People over complicate shit. DONT TALK ABOUT(or do) ILLEGAL SHIT and you don’t have to worry. If “they” have a snitch in your midst, they are either grasping, or you are doing something stupid. Stop. If they do start rounding people up and calling them enemies of the state and jailing and/or killing, word will get around and the game is finally on.

    then you kill the snitch.

    My vote for local snitch here has to be tfat. He’s always talking about his badassery.

    • MichiganderJim

      “How about…. don’t talk about or do illegal shit?”

      That was easy; guess we can call it a day. Poor CA, spent all these years working so hard when the answer was so simple. Just obey.

      “No need to question authority. Question obedience.”

    • Jimmy the Saint

      “DONT TALK ABOUT(or do) ILLEGAL SHIT and you don’t have to worry. ”

      The problem is that the maze of Federal and State laws are now set up to pretty much guarantee that you ARE doing illegal shit, whether you know it or not. Unfortunately, the Clinton defense doesn’t apply to the peasantry.

    • You’re an idiot.

      “How about…. don’t talk about or do illegal shit?”

      You fool.

      jwoop66

    • Naw. He is just an Internet legend. If he was a snitch he would freely pass out the money he talks about all the time because it would not be his. He would want to impress people and get them dependent on his line of funding to operate. If he has the money he talks about he earned it and thats why he does not spare a cent of it.

    • Steve Kristmann

      Hi Jwoop66,

      Did you remember to put on your osha mandated kneepads and fda cleared lipbalm after you outed yourself as a cuckish copsucker/gov appeaser? If you go “Rah rah USA USA!!..murekia is da greatest because…founders stood up to da brutal redcoats and then freed us further with da constatoohuun…murekia…I pledge allegiance ta da flag and a gov that it represents fa evvaa and evvaaa..USA!!..USA!!..USA!!!” on July 4th? you’re still living in ‘greenwoodistaan’.

      Guess what,…FREEDOM IS ‘illegal’ by it’s very nature to those who worship at the alter of ‘gov/authority’.

      You’re Not the Boss of Me!! (Full Version) feat. Larken Rose

      Remember, the Founders WERE ‘tax evaders’, ‘smugglers’, ‘anti-gov troublermakers’..and oh my gosh…some of them were even…’copkillers’!!!
      Because of that..they were the ‘good guys’!…

      Kinda like these fictional folks…

      Message to the Voting Cattle – Larken Rose

      You have to be free between your own ears before you
      can be free in any other meaningful way. If you want to keep wearing
      the kneepads and lip balm to ‘service’ gov/authority you’re free to do so,
      just realize that that’s not being FREE!

      I will grant you that you’re spot on regarding snitches though….

      Yours in Liberty w/o any cuckish worship to the false god called ‘authority/gov’!
      NorthGunner III

  6. Of course The Bundy ranch and the Burns Oregon episodes were infiltrated. But mostly they were badly led. Stealing grass from turtles (failing to pay your grazing fees) is no crime. That’s all in civil court (I believe). But kicking the door of a federal building while armed to the teeth (Malheur), and leading federal agents in a high speed chase, are felonies.
    I believe that a 100% of the preparing that the Patriots want to do, can be done legally. But for a few states, a legal adult patriot with enough money can buy huge arsenals, legally. They can train in the woods and prep all they want, legally. Just don’t EVER take a picture of your child with a weapon of any kind and especially don’t post that pic online. Any idiot (LEA) can then make up a fake complaint and LEA can legally enter your property and search it. Avoid over the top online abuse of LEA. Even if you truly hate them, don’t draw attention to yourself. Let ‘Black lives Matter’ draw that heat.
    Like I’ve said before, the biggest battles coming will be between the Free shit Army and the Public pension slugs. Let them fight it out. Anybody who suggests committing any crime worse than jaywalking, run from them.
    Rainman……

    • MichiganderJim

      “Of course The Bundy ranch and the Burns Oregon episodes were infiltrated. But mostly they were badly led.”

      Bullshit. Infiltrated or not, those guys are either dead or caged because patriots/freedomistas/AMERICANS couldn’t stomach to see brave folk stand up AND ACT on behalf of what they chose to be dear—THEIR VALUES, THEIR LIVES.

      And the reason for that, in turn, is because the cowards haven’t the courage to stand up and act on their own behalf and accept responsibility for their own choices…quite unlike the ranchers. This was all obvious from the very first day at Mahleur.

      There will be no rightful liberty without massive suffering and death for a very simple reason—almost nobody wants it.

      • Jimmy the Saint

        “those guys are either dead or caged because patriots/freedomistas/AMERICANS couldn’t stomach to see brave folk stand up AND ACT on behalf of what they chose to be dear—THEIR VALUES, THEIR LIVES.”

        No, they failed to gauge support for their stands. In each case, they picked small local matters that did not really garner significant attention. If you’re going to make a stand and expect people to rally to your cause in droves, then you have to pick a big stage, and you have to plan it all out beforehand.

      • SemperFi, 0321

        Oh boy, another groupie! C’mon Jim, you know better than that.
        They fucked up big time, no other answer except they played it as amateurs, and paid for it.
        And what idiot leaves his semi-secure AO, gets on a plane and walks right into FedGov custody? That took the cake for all time stooopid!

    • There was at least one mole at the Sugar Pine Mine Operation too…

      This may be painting with a too broad of a brush for some; but here is my analysis:

      A mole may be the type of guy who asks the same hypothetical questions to an unusual number of people; in regards to rules of engagement. The type of guy who happened to be a little too engaged in too many other types of inquiries….. The type of guy with zero anxiety in regards to the threat of being arrested, ruined or or killed by the govt. The type of guy who cannot hide his information gathering habbits (the constant scanning). The type of guy who has brand new boots, clothes & equipment. The type of guy who is supposedly a farmer from a sunny climate but has snow-white skin and clean finger nails, or the guy who appears to be in better relative shape (build, nutrition, & dental) than everyone else…

      Or the on line poster who always appears to be a rebel but may be simply casting a net with his or her (or it’s) provocative language.

  7. http://www.counter-currents.com/2016/08/the-insider-threat-from-an-alt-right-viewpoint/

    The White Savior Narrative Influencing American Leadership Policies

    After Major Hasan went on his rampage, the US Army’s Chief of Staff General George Casey stated that “Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.”[16] Under the Civil Rights narrative, American government officials are put into a position where they must be a “white savior” to the non-whites and keep the regular mission going. The “white savior” is a white person who motivates, saves, improves, etc. some group of non-whites. Due to this sub-function of the Civil Rights environment, no Chief of Staff can possibly say that Islamic soldiers punch above their weight in insider threat behavior. To this day, more Americans have been killed by Muslims in the US Army than Muslims have been killed on the American side in combat. Saying so is admitting failure as a “white savior.” For the same reason, no American official can say that employing Chinese in sensitive technical positions is a bad idea.

  8. The White Savior Narrative Influencing American Leadership Policies

    After Major Hasan went on his rampage, the US Army’s Chief of Staff General George Casey stated that “Our diversity, not only in our Army, but in our country, is a strength. And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse.”[16] Under the Civil Rights narrative, American government officials are put into a position where they must be a “white savior” to the non-whites and keep the regular mission going. The “white savior” is a white person who motivates, saves, improves, etc. some group of non-whites. Due to this sub-function of the Civil Rights environment, no Chief of Staff can possibly say that Islamic soldiers punch above their weight in insider threat behavior. To this day, more Americans have been killed by Muslims in the US Army than Muslims have been killed on the American side in combat. Saying so is admitting failure as a “white savior.” For the same reason, no American official can say that employing Chinese in sensitive technical positions is a bad idea.

  9. The favorite tactic of “Law Enforcement” is “Infiltrate to incite and indict”. Think Hutaree militia, or Four Grandpas in a Waffle House. If the FedPig swill consider your group a threat to their treason, they will do their best to plant somebody inside to feed them info, and to drive you into action they can “suppress”. THAT is why true Lone Wolves scare them shitless.

    • Randall Flagg

      I’m still waiting for ONE ‘terrorist’ caught by .gov that wasn’t first sought out, induced and entrapped by .gov. Just one would be nice.

  10. Never pass up a chance to spread disinformation to a snitch……There are opportunities there; use em like the useful idiots that they are.

    Never let me know that you know; if they are going to walk away.

    If someone is drawing power (their idea of importance or self-worth) by sharing unsolicited information on other people with you……they will do the same with your info to others.

    When acquaintances in town say to you “I thought you moved” or “you dropped-off the face of the earth”, it should be received as a successful mission.

    Shop and do business in towns or cities; other than yours.

    Get a PO Box and rip your mailbox off your house.

    Beware of the substitute delivery drivers.

  11. Don’t do anything illegal? After this election all opposition speech will be classified as hate speech and declared illegal. Telling the truth will be declared illegal. It’s already against the law to use the truth as your defense in courts in Europe, if your are a “Holocaust denier”. Ernst Zundel was unavailable for comment.

  12. Very instructive.

  13. outlawpatriot

    Oh, I’m sure there are. It’s just something that has to be figured into the equation. While we do background and CCW checks, at the end of the day, it don’t mean nuthin’. But they best not get found out.😉

  14. The current social & cultural paradigm shift has already been forged. The mindset & ideological beliefs were not purged after WWll & the technology has been architected to be used as a metadata dystopian nightmare w/ freedom being the target.

    The Blade Runner quote resonates loudly. ‘Quite an experience to live in fear, isn’t it? That’s what it is to be a slave.”

    History is replete w/ copious examples of spies – espionage – betrayal etc. It’s as old as any primitive civilization. I suspect that w/ the deliberate & orchestrated Roman & Machiavellian tactics of societal – cultural schism’s & chasm’s created we will see lots more.
    With digital technology & information used as the prime tool & speed dissemination of that info it will ebb & flow. There will a noticeable uptick in the “Red Queen Theory” as the competition for jobs, contracts, products & survival take on a paradigm shift re: “Maslow’s Heirarchy of Needs”. Alpha members of the species will have instinctually, sentiently, intuitively adapted to overcome the weaker species or tribes. Natural selection prime directive of survival has been ramped up deliberately to cull the populace herd of the Window Lickers – Short Bus – Meth Heads & Bath Salt types. Spies are no different & can ruin a tribe – group – cadre in a Ricky Tick moment. Americans should already have been in this mode for a few years already but certainly now would be a good time to Vett or challenge any doubts or uncertainties.

    Chose your tribe & core wisely.mtime is neigh & the fuse is short.

    “Takers get the Honey losers sing the Blues” welcome to Neo-feudalism.

  15. European American

    A little off topic, but maybe not really…

  16. There were government informers all the way back when Robert DePugh had the Minutemen of the 1960’s. I’m so old I could hide my own Easter eggs!

    • Jimmy the Saint

      Information is always the world’s most valuable commodity. Given that fact, pretty much all organizations will have snitches, or people willing to become them, for the right price.

  17. Victimless crimes and crimes where the state is the primary victim demand deep and wide CI networks of snitches and provocateurs to keep the feed chute alive in the bureaucracy erected to process the offenders. It’s why communist nations only thrive when that snitch network is healthy and talkative to the right people. You’ll notice the one-way transparency to make this system remain afloat.

    Exhibit A is the war against illegal vegetation and non-approved Schedule 1-5 drugs. The DEA is dual purpose organization that provides muscle for big pharma and concierge services to capture or kill private offenders for the big government/big business combines.

    Keep in mind that the third terror suspect in Paris met the French president earlier. Amedi Coulibaby, met with French President Nicholas Sarkozy in 2009, when he was 27 years old.

    MI6 got so confused they had agents on both ends of an IRA interrogation: http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2006/04/double-blind/304710/

    The house of mirrors of the informant networks can be used against the original deploying organizations hence the success of KGB foreign directorates in placing moles and assets in western conclaves.

    Read the simple means by which Yuri Totrov ferreted out CIA operatives planet-wide.

    “What Totrov came up with were 26 unchanging indicators as a model for identifying U.S. intelligence officers overseas. Other indicators of a more trivial nature could be detected in the field by a vigilant foreign counterintelligence operative but not uniformly so: the fact that CIA officers replacing one another tended to take on the same post within the embassy hierarchy, drive the same make of vehicle, rent the same apartment and so on. Why? Because the personnel office in Langley shuffled and dealt overseas postings with as little effort as required.”

    http://www.salon.com/2015/09/26/how_to_explain_the_kgbs_amazing_success_identifying_cia_agents_in_the_field/

    The US Federal government is an occupying entity and behaves like it. All exploitable.

    Bill Buppert

  18. European American,

    Actually, the “no fly list” is a gross violation of the 5th Amendment, which they are using to deny the 2nd Amendment.

  19. Sometimes, “If you want to make an enemy mad – treat like
    a friend” comes without even trying, and it is spiritual, if I say
    so myself.

    Eyes & Ears

  20. Informants are an occupational hazard in paramilitary and underground organizations. Persons and groups that suspect they will be infiltrated and exploited should consider how they are going to conduct clandestine background investigations on newly developed prospects.
    Background investigations are key in detecting/identifying informants, AKA “spies.” After the first phase of the vetting process, that is, a highly prejudicial assessment of why you should let the new recruit into the organization, comes the BI. If you feel that wiretapping and conducting highly invasive surveillance on a prospective recruit is just not done, then you will you will fail at underground recruitment and will be relocated to the federal gulag at Florence, Colorado.
    Are you recruiting someone, or just letting them in? What do they bring to the organization? What behaviors do they exhibit that are exploitable towards being made a snitch? What has their life looked like for the past 10-20 years? How will you conduct operational testing of the new recruit? If your new recruit turns out to be a snitch, how do you terminate the relationship? How do you terminate the relationship 10 years in the future when they become “your friend?”
    Of course, your underground organization is a hybrid functional/operational cell and rigidly compartmented. See Von Dach, “Total Resistance”, for a conceptual illustration.
    There’s more of course, but those are perishable and fragile Tactics, Techniques and Procedures that are employed by dedicated internal security and counter-intelligence personnel. Professional military men may contact you, or not.

  21. Stealth Spaniel

    After reading all of the comments, putting Claire’s wisdom on a pdf file, and thinking it over-all of this comes down to what mama told you, over and over. KNOW your “friends”! We all have, what, 10 close friends? Everyone else is an acquaintance, a coworker, or some distance from your real life.Example: I love my doctor. Great guy, early 30’s, smart, friendly, loves his dog and kids, always there for me. I would no more hold a one on one conversation on guns, prepping, or anything else. So-unless I get shot, he won’t put me & guns together-should he be asked. My neighbors have no idea what I do when I am off doing my thing. The dogs go, I talk about dog parks and hiking. If the RV is picking up supplies-who would be the wiser?? Why oh why, is this era so damned & determined to blab, photo-share, or otherwise Facebook or Twitter every single facet of their lives? Jesus, Mary, and Joseph-STOP! You don’t need to be Spy & I Spy from Mad Magazine. Just be that normal, funky, neighborhood worker bee going about his/her business.
    If I know someone is working for the government-then I am already on high alert. City, county, state, or fed-these folks are cut from the same cloth. If I know someone is an attorney, judge, cop, or otherwise legally bound-I know to be wary. These people live to indict. Politicians are the Devil’s Spawn so you already know where they come from.
    Your normal appearance is your Invisibility Cloak. Wear it proudly.

  22. What is the 141 day count down represent?

  23. Everybody talks eventually. Determining the appropriate motivator is the key to my old friends knowing your deepest secrets. Old saying by our Red and White wearing associates, ” Three can keep a secret, if two are dead”.

    You would be wise to not mention anything to anybody you don’t wish leaked. Compartmentalized units are as close to anomous? as you can get.

    My best snitches were always the toughest talkers. Fucking pussys at the end of the day.

    Dirk