Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia Declare State Of Emergency After Pipeline Spill

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Tennessee, Virginia, Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama and North Carolina — are facing possible gas shortages after a pipeline spill

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41 responses to “Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia Declare State Of Emergency After Pipeline Spill

  1. Marlo Stanfield

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  2. What a coincidence. Right thru the heart of Dixie.

    • I get a different vibe — Don’t screw with Texas or we will turn off the gas.

    • William Wilson

      Joo-dized folk music from the jew who called himself “Robbie Robertson.” t-elAviva, you always slip rat poison to your comrades.

  3. In any other circumstance, given the age of the pipeline and the actions of corrosion, I would normally assume a rather mundane industrial accident. Taking into full account what is going on however, I’m going to have to question this one, especially given the impacted areas and the potential length of time that it is going to get back into full operation. Even if it is an accident, I wouldn’t put it past the gubbermint to slow up the repair process with needless red tape.

  4. Any other “industrial accident” and the EPA and other overlords would be on-scene and screaming, but where are they now? Add to this the ‘accidental’ bombing in Syria, and the pipe bombs in NJ and NY today, and I just have to up the “alert” factor a bit. Once is an accident, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy activity.

  5. If I were there….I would have already had an extra 200 gallons to tide me over.

    Remember this happened in AZ a few years back and the Democrat Govenor totally screwed it up and called it a non-event…..those poor bastards waited in lines to get gas for about a month…..

    I think yellow mine pipe is chemical resistant….just get some of that installed and build a bypass…..but that would be way to simple and easy for government types.

  6. All out coming home last night. Could get ugly in metro atl.
    Gonna be a long week.

    http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index.ssf/2016/09/colonial_pipeline_to_bypass_le.html

    • We’re in rough shape here in NC already based on what I’m seeing. The bad part? We’re getting enough in that there shouldn’t be a problem if people would just knock of the discretionary driving and just do the necessary trips, but noooooo!!!! Everyone is treating it as situation normal and driving every where until they can’t fill up.

      • Jimmy the Saint

        “We’re getting enough in that there shouldn’t be a problem if people would just knock of the discretionary driving and just do the necessary trips, but noooooo!!!! Everyone is treating it as situation normal and driving every where until they can’t fill up.”

        So…people acting according to their own desires and not in the community interest is a *bad* thing? I have been assured that this is unpossible.

        • The sad part actually is that they’re acting against their own interests, not just the community interest. They’re just too stupid to realize it. I’m guessing that they’ll have an awakening around, oh, say, this coming Tuesday when they have a hard time getting gas.

  7. Ya problematically there are not a lot of pipelines that can move that volume to those places, as in they don’t exist. Secondary and tertiary storage have bought time but alas, they can’t last. Like the propane problem a few years back up in the NE it’s one of logistics. It’s hard to replace that kind of volume and in those places that normally get it. The issue is one of demand and time. The clock is ticking, the first thing that happens is that everyone gets hit with allocations and force majeurs which I’m sure happened within minutes of this discovery. I think you will see some stations run out at those spurs that are not within easy shot of waterborne. The other thing that happens is public panic immediately can create a real kink in the system as they all rush to fill that gas can collection before their neighbors haha. Be the first in your neighborhood. IF this thing is gonna be down for a while, there will be a lot of pain at the pumps. There will be shortages/outages. It’s just not possible to turn it on and off like a light either, there is a short restart period (No one wants to turn this back on and have it shoot into the river either).

    Here’s a brief overview
    – 5,500 miles of pipeline
    – 7 airports directly served (think jet fuel) flights could be impacted
    -multiple Department of Defense installations each day (gun confiscation delays)
    -15 storage tank locations strategically positioned along the pipeline (these are being drained as we speak)
    -more than 260 terminals serviced (these distribute the products onto truks)
    -99 million gallons of refined products every single day not moving
    -Limited ability to replace via waterborne shipments due to capacities and logistics
    -14 to 24 days for a batch to get from Houston, Texas to the New York harbor (average batch 25-75 thousand bbls)
    -18.5 days the average time for batch to get from Houston, Texas to the New York harbor
    -the restart is scheduled for Thursday, keep your eye on fuel markets Tues/Weds as the industry isn’t known for it’s stealth and tight lips

    Here is a visual representation of the macro view:

    A refinement (pun intended) of the problem:
    Using NC as an example since the info was available here is some background from them:

    North Carolina imports approximately 100% of the petroleum it consumes. The majority of the petroleum product flowing in to NC originates from refinery operations located in the Gulf Coast region. Petroleum products come into the state through one of two interstate pipelines, a seaport operation, and by tanker truck.

    So the bulk of it (Jet, Gas & Dsl) comes from the Gulf Coast refineries via one of two pipes, Colonial 99 mil gallons per day and Plantation 30 mil gallons per day. I’ll let you do the math.

    Sources:
    https://ncdenr.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/Energy%20Mineral%20and%20Land%20Resources/Energy/Energy%20Assurance%20Plan%202013.pdf

    http://www.kindermorgan.com/business/products_pipelines/plantation.aspx

    http://www.colpipe.com/home/about-colonial

    http://www.kindermorgan.com/content/docs/ppl_system_map.pdf
    (note all the connections to harbor lines along the plantation, not)

    http://www.colpipe.com/home/about-colonial/system-map

    PS-we didn’t even get into what goes on at refineries which are making product that normally would be moved out into pipes daily. Keep your eye on this one, it’s not a small deal.

  8. Spill was discovered on Fri Sep9. First I heard was Ga governor’s declaration of SOE on radio news 0630 Fri Sep16. News media played it down: “extra tanker trucks mobilizing to maintain supply”…..okaaaaay!. Some local gas stations out of all but premium as of 10 pm last night and prices up 25c from last week for those still listing regular.
    This week local schools are on half-term break, so I may take vacation if gas supply cut off.
    Gonna be interesting. HB has the right of it; a sensible authority would install a temporary bypass until the fix was in place…..but EPA.
    Differ

    • Deal’s State of Emergency had to be the least publicized SoE in the history of GA. Normally it would be broadcast 24/7. Not this time. I read about it on ZeroHedge.

  9. SFC WILLIAM B SMITH US ARMY RETIRED

    Time keeps on slipping slipping slipping into the future. The clock is ticking, can you hear it? And midnight is moments away.

  10. Clean air & clean water?
    I think it is time to add zeolite to water and air filtration systems,
    besides activated carbon etc. Note: Oxygen concentrators use
    zeolite to scrub the air, and can be added to water filtration
    system too. From what I have noticed, many of you are very
    creative, and can probably device a scrubber in your water lines
    and too, pre-filtering before going through your a/c and heating
    air flow system.

    “A massive sinkhole at a fertilizer plant in Mulberry, Florida, has caused about 215 million gallons of radioactive water to drain down into the Floridian aquifer system, according to ABC affiliate WFTS.”

    Stay clean & clear.

    “Every man to his family and his belongings”
    plus even help strangers in your midst.

  11. Combine info regarding the tiny spill-quantity with news that it was “discovered” by Alabama Surface Mining officials. Combine that with lapdog media’s eagerness to report official story.

    Substitute BLM for Alabama Surface Mining and reconsider the narrative as delivered? Perhaps I’m too skeptical.

  12. Bigger cities like Raleigh and Charlotte have some empty pumps but here where I am there are no lines and no panic. We will see.

  13. And this on the heels of the demonstration against the North Dakato pipeline, just yesterday.

    Cue pipeline “news” from Ukraine…

  14. The fact that the response involves a bypass is a very, VERY bad indicator. Normally in these situations a welded-in-place sleeve would be used to correct the problem.

    I have HUMINT on the situation, and while I wouldn’t go slapping the panic button and going full-Chicken Little, I would advise anyone in the area of supply from CP, to monitor the situation closely.

    CP is publishing periodic updates on the situation as it develops:

    https://helena.colonialresponse.com/helena-alabama-incident-update-september-17-545-p-m-cdt-update-17/

    What’s not stated in the updates, news, or “official” sources is what’s most concerning.

    • <-agree, a bypass is a pretty big deal, there is lots of fuel in secondary and tertiary storage but replacing freaking a 100mil gals a day just ain't easy and frankly not possible.

      -trucker restrictions have already been lifted as those poor bastards will be driving a LOT of hours

    • Good grab, thank you.

      RFG convential waiver timeline suggests thursday is prob not in the cards lol.
      “This waiver is effective immediately through October 6, 2016.”

      Math is nobody’s friend on this one.

    • I’m pretty sure your source is saying the same mine is, by way of the big facility in GSO. Behind the green curtains some folks are panicking.

      I advise anyone in NC to at least go buy a couple 5gal gas cans and fill them up, most haste. You shoulda done it already, along with live in an area less populated and get in good with your neighbors.

      It’s gonna get worse from here in many ways.

  15. Just think what might happen when the festivities begin if pipelines such as this experience “problems”…

    The hives only exist by leeching continually off the countryside. Disruption to their logistics chain can rapidly make them uninhabitable.

    Food.
    Fuel.
    Water.
    Power.

    • Mark,
      Exactly right. Those items will significantly increase pressure on the lives of the population of even mid-sized “cities”. Most people only have spare batteries for their flashlight if they even own one. I would prioritize the items a little differently:
      1. Electrical Power (sick and weak will die off quick with little or no help)
      2. Water (can’t live too long without it)
      3. Fuel (can generate some power and move easily for awhile)
      4. Food (need it for the long term)

      I say that from personal experience inside the nuke blast zone known as Hurricane Katrina and subsequent NO electrical power for 14 days.

      /r
      Grey Ghost

  16. I’m sure Some of the more discerning types have planned for this type of scenario. It will be interesting to read stories from the lessons learned crowd. I predict diesel pickup ownership spiking, and used restaurant oil becoming desirable again.

    • Even without the alternate fuel possibilities, having a diesel does always give the option of a second source of fuel.

  17. The Usual Suspect

    Lawdy, Lawdy, get the wimmen and chillen off dem streets,
    here comes dem pipeliners.

  18. Thursday restart sounds iffy to me if you are now discussing building a new section, file this under unfortunate developements.

    http://www.wrdw.com/content/news/Colonial-announces-construction-of-temporary-pipeline-393896861.html

  19. A little more info for the crowd in regard to Northeast impacts:

    The relationship between the East Coast and Gulf Coast PADDs is characterized by supply and Consumption imbalances. The Gulf Coast PADD is characterized by a surplus of transportation fuels
    supply. In 2014, refinery production averaged 7.5 million b/d, exceeding in -PADD consumption by more than 200%. The heavily populated East Coast, by contrast, met only 20% of its transportation fuels consumption through in -PADD refinery production in 2014. The remainder was met primarily by imports (16%) and pipeline and waterborne shipments from other PADDs (58%). The vast majority of inter-PADD shipments to the East Coast originated in the Gulf Coast, with more than 2.3 million b/d, or nearly half of total East Coast consumption , supplied to East Coast destinations via two pipeline systems (Colonial and Plantation)

    Plantation delivers about 700,000 barrels per day (http://www.kindermorgan.com/business/products_pipelines/plantation.aspx)
    That suggests that colonial is about 1/2 of the Northeast gasoline supply. if this estimate is accurate and Colonial is completely shut down past Thursday the northeast could feel a pinch as well.

    http://www.eia.gov/analysis/transportationfuels/padd1n3/pdf/transportation_fuels_padd1n3.pdf

  20. 9 days down already, that is why it’s a story now because the drain is now whistling. PADD 1C demand = approx 1.6mbpd give or take. It’s been down 9 days.

    Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, and West
    Virginia should buckle up.

    Supply vulnerability
    Southeast transportation fuels markets are critically dependent on the reliable and continuous operation of the Colonial and Plantation pipelines systems and their supporting infrastructure, including refinery production and injection facilities in the Gulf Coast, pipeline booster stations across both systems, and breakout tankage at key pipeline junctions………
    There are few alternatives to replace lost volumes on the Colonial and Plantation systems. Replacement supplies can be delivered by ship to Atlantic coast ports and trucked inland or trucked directly from the
    Gulf Coast, but the capability to do so is very limited and the magnitude of consumption in the Southeast market—approximately 1.6 million b/d—makes full replacement infeasible.

    Source Doc:

    https://www.eia.gov/analysis/transportationfuels/padd1n3/pdf/transportation_fuels_padd1n3.pdf
    (for extra credit examine the chart on page 58 and try to find the bars in the graph which represent waterborne capacity)

    On the bright side it appears there is a bright future for some as CA often mentions:

    “North Carolina is home to the largest number of biodiesel stations in the region and in the nation, with 131, while South Carolina leads the region with 68 total E85 stations.”

  21. Have not closely examined how a friend has it, but he used a propane
    barbeque regulator and hooked it up to his engine. Carried the propane
    tank on his pick up bed. He switches to gasoline or propane. Did same
    with generator without buying the kit, and instead taking the floater
    off.

    Also just read on another site that some gas stations in Atlanta are
    charging 5 FRN’s per gallon.