Fred: On Gun Control

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24 responses to “Fred: On Gun Control

  1. Ah, man … you slipped in that insidious little phrase, “guns in the hands of the law-abiding.”

    Which means that YOU are in favour of gun-control …. unless I misunderstood you.

    If you are one of those who think, “Well, that guy has no right to be armed, because felon/or whatever.” then you ARE in favour of gun-control. If there is an RKBA, then everyone has that “right”. Everyone.

    As soon as you make exceptions, you actively reject the notion of “right” and embrace the concept of “privilege” … which is exactly the stance of every last gun-grabber.

    • Agreed.

    • Curious as to whether McAuliffe and the other control freaks pushing for former felons to be allowed to vote, would allow them to also own firearms.

      But I’m pretty sure of the answer.

    • Nice catch.

      Once upon a time, if a man got crossways with the law, then he went to prison.

      While in prison, his rights were understandably suspended for the duration of his stay.

      Once he did his time and was paroled, he was considered “square with the house” – his debt to society stamped Paid In Full – and his rights were restored.

      ALL OF THEM. Voting, gun ownership, etc…

      If a man is so dangerous that he cannot be trusted with basic rights – ALL OF THEM – then he should not be released back into society.

      Stripping a man of his rights after he has already paid his debt to society is nothing but “after-prison prison” – punishment after punishment.

      If a man turns out to be a Bad Actor and preys upon society – an armed society – then the problem is usually self-correcting.

      Of course, the shit weasels will frame an argument like this as the blatantly disingenuous: “YOU’RE IN FAVOR OF ARMING DANGEROUS FELONS!”…

      If a person cannot see the intentional falsehoods and misdirection in that statement and why it is usually hurled at someone making the above argument, then I got nothin’ for ya…

      • Jimmy the Saint

        “Once upon a time, if a man got crossways with the law, then he went to prison.

        While in prison, his rights were understandably suspended for the duration of his stay.

        Once he did his time and was paroled, he was considered “square with the house” – his debt to society stamped Paid In Full – and his rights were restored.”

        Of course, prior to that, he would have been branded an outlaw (caput lupinum) and been stripped of all rights, subject to immediate killing – without penalty – by absolutely anyone. Fucking up came with greater consequences in ye olden tymes.

    • ” because felon/or whatever.”

      There are many many idiots who have no business being armed.
      IMO the same should not even be sucking air…

      100-200 million murkins need to take a long dirt nap.

      • The “dirt nap” is not going to be from guns. It’ll be from bad water, cold, and the incendiary effects of diversity when the goodies stop (power off for 1-week+). It’ll be ugly, and biologically hazardous for more than a year.

    • Ah yes..the ‘law abiding’…

      The German populace were very ‘law abiding’ during W.W. II….need I say more?

      It’s not by being ‘law abiding’ that we are FREE, for all ‘laws’ are nothing more than threats uttered by a parastic class and enforced by their badged orcs (police are the dirty arms of the politicians). Murder, theft, rape, assault, fraud and the like are always wrong no matter if some parasite writes it down on paper or not..and more so when the parasites commit such in the name of ‘gov/authority’.

      “The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual crime.”
      –Max Stirner

      Or as another wise man once said:
      “Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”
      –Willian Pitt (the Younger)

      and the prize winner IMHO will always be:

      “Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add ‘within the limits of the law’ because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.”
      –Thomas Jefferson

      You’ll definitely find the ‘Fudds’ (as the Late Mike Vanderboegh called them)
      being very ‘law abiding’…they can’t understand why folks here want those ‘evil black rifles which are only good for killing other people’.

      Don’t be a ‘Fudd’…be an Outlaw!!

      Yours In daily Armed Liberty!
      NorthGunner III

    • bogbeagle, British subject:

      Nothing annoys me more than to have YOU as a SUBJECT to the Queen of England come here to this Amerikan blog and write as though you have interests as an Amerikan citizen while you do not. You reside in Great Britain, are not an American citizen and are a subject to the Queen of England and your Parliament.

      You have the gall to criticize the author for his remark “guns in the hands of the law-abiding” as somehow acknowledging the author is in favour (it’s spelled “favor” on THIS side of the pond) of gun control. While you yourself bow down to the Queen of England and Parliament as the subject you are.

      No commenter here is more aware of government controlling citizen, in your case “subjects”, ownership and possesion of weapons than YOU as a subject of Great Britain. You need to cease your comments lecturing Amerikans about our Right to Keep and Bear Arms while you subjects in Jolly Ol’ England have no right to arms for self-defense. Whether it be firearms or a butter knife, your Majesty and your British Parliament have denied British subjects the RKBA starting in the 16th Century.

      Instead of you writing here as though you are an Amerikan (Reminder: you’re a British subject) you should start frequenting British blogs and websites bemoaning that you and your fellow British subjects have been denied the Right to Keep & Bear Arms by your Queens and Kings for centuries !

      For starters why don’t you educate us dumb colonials on OUR Right to Bear Arms with examples of British gun-control measures:

      Queen Elizabeth I banning of wheellock pistols in 1594

      Disarming Acts of 1716 and 1725

      Vagrancy Act 1824

      Gun License Act 1870

      Pistols Act 1903

      1920 Firearms Act

      1937 Firearms Act

      1968 Firearms Act

      The Firearms Act 1988

      1997 Firearms Acts

      Violent Crime Reduction Act 2006

      As the British subject you are bogbeagle, it is apparent to me that you are quite accepting of your Queen’s restrictions on your RKBA (you have no rights). In turn your acceptance of these restrictions, denials actually, are indicative of the “privilege” you accept and thus makes you no less a gun-grabber yourself !

      You are a British troll masquerading as a fUSA citizen. Your hypocritical nonsense you spew here are those of a liar. You are most certainly a liar by omission.

      Fuck the Queen.

      Fuck your Parliament.

      Fuck the inbred Royal Family.

      And most of all….FUCK YOU bogbeagle, British subject !

  2. No “back burner” for gun control; battles in state houses will rage this year. Support for our God-given rights will go to those battles, or some good Americans will suffer the consequences.

    Oregon Firearms Federation (OFF); is one example of a no compromise gun rights organization that could use some support; the Left has a super-majority in the houses, a Left Governor(ness), Left lower courts, but a conservative Secretary of State and a semi-conservative Supreme Court; it is not hopeless. Conservative counties and sheriffs have sworn to ignore all unconstitutional gun laws….there are conservatives i Oregon who are in the same boat as USA is nationally; the urban-Left majorities control the rural counties with their visceral voting habits.

    The NRA and other so-called gun rights advocates will probably leave states like Oregon and citizens like Oregonians hanging, now that we have some breathing room nationally; some actually think the battles are over.

    A lot of rural citizens in Blue states support the NRA and voted for Trump (aka breathing room); so please consider helping them?


    • California, 1988 had three million NRA members actively. They made a feint attempt to recruit new members. When Roos/Roberti Assault Weapon Ban came up as a Bill for the Legislature, the NRA backed out and helped write the “Assault Rifle Ban.”

      Had they been on our side their membership would have been about 2-3 million more white (domestic) immigrants, a million Asiatic immigrants, a million black “immigrants,” a million Hispanic natives and assorted other races from around the world.

      I used the term “immigrant” because people from throughout the U.S.A. were flocking to California in the 1980’s for sound economic policies and very conservative gun rights laws.

      It changed by one public mass shooting,

  3. thesouthwasrght

    I like Fred, I find his style of prose both humorous and informative. That being said I don’t know what kind of AR he is talking about because they are an inherently accurate platform and well suited to personal protection against singular targets in cqb settings. Moving forward on the AR evolution though I will unequivocally state the 6.5 Grendel is the round that will keep the AR platform viable for the next couple decades.

    • Yes, the 6.5G is THE round for the AR-15 platform. My first AR build was in that caliber. There is a place for the 5.56×45, in a vehicle rifle/ARpistol, but for places outside that, the AR-15 in 6.5 Grendel rules.

  4. Everyone should keep in mind that the left’s ultimate goal is Confiscation*
    One only need to listen to their only words to understand this FACT:

    Mr. Cuomo, speaking on WGDJ-AM, said: “Confiscation could be an option.”

    “Ban, seize semi-auto weapons”State Rep. Dan Muhlbauer, D-Manilla
    ‘Turn in your guns’ Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas)

    You say gun control doesn’t work? Fine. Let’s ban guns altogether.

    Don’t just get rid of flag, get rid of the gun, too

    Effective Gun Control – A National Semi-Auto Ban

    “In the Australian example, as I recall, that was a buyback program.”…..“I think it would be worth considering doing it on the national level” Hillary Clinton

    A gun-free society The Washington Post

    Yes, They Want to Take Your Guns Away The Daily Beast

    End the Gun Epidemic in AmericaThe New York Times December 2015 [First Front Page Editorial In 95 Years]

    We don’t need gun control. We need domestic disarmament Huffingtonpost

    It’s Time to Ban Guns. Yes, All of Them.

    Why It’s Time to Repeal the Second Amendment

    Matt Damon wants an AUSTRALIAN style gun confiscation in the US

    Clinton Delegate Explains How Democrats Will Ban All Guns

    KING: Dallas, Baton Rouge massacres show need for assault rifle ban Shaun King New York Daily News

    *Given the basic concept of synonyms and avocation by acquiescence one does NOT have to state certain words or phrases in order to be in favour of confiscation.

  5. L. Neil Smith wrote a short essay on this very subject about 20 years ago, worth a read.

    Why Did It Have to be Guns?

  6. Record breaking sales on Black Friday, AFTER everyone knew Trump was elected. That means conservatives were not buying them; it was liberals. Gun prohibitionists are losing their constituencies in droves. Gun control is dead.

    • “Record breaking sales on Black Friday, AFTER everyone knew Trump was elected…”

      What do you think it would have looked like if Shrills had won?

      My guess is 2 or 3 times as many; wouldn’t YOU have been in line for at least some ammo?

  7. Good piece by Fred – I especially liked: “Curiously, not one of the passengers was able to describe him. Maybe they were not paying attention”, but he misses the most salient point WRT ‘gun control’, made most succinctly by L. Neil Smith:

    The one and only reason politicians, bureaucrats, and policemen want to take your weapons away from you is so that they can do things to you that they couldn’t do if you still had your weapons.

  8. I suspect Fred doesn’t own an AR15 in 5.56 or any other caliber and hasn’t spent any time behind one. I really like the cut of his jib, but his article isn’t as accurate as an AR.


    Once again I will present the question. This question has been asked before by people a lot smarter than I, such as Boston T. Party. Who will take my guns? Matt Damon? Rosie O’Donnell? That idiot leftist Mook from the post yesterday, posing with his shotgun? This inquiring old man wants to know.
    Seriously, the balloon has not gone up yet. When it goes up in the Blue Hives, which are seriously infected with the Gimmedats and the FSA, there will be no more talk about guns. It will be about survival.
    Unfortunately, the very (((people))) who have been funding this agenda will be on their Gulf Stream IV sky salons heading to their hideouts in New Zealand, Jackson Hole, Blaine County, ID, or up here to my back yard. MY Finnish Moisin may have some use after all.

  10. With politicians and leftists/marxists it’s always about the guns. No exceptions.

    The scumbag Mitt Romney is a perfect example, while governor of MA he signed a permanent AK ban. This just a few years before he signed Romneycare into law. On second thought scumbag is too nice, he’s a fucking walking shitbag. Not to be outdone by a MA Governor, there ARE some traitorous GENERALS who think it’s good to have more gun control and have teamed up with Mark Kelly. No wonder they were promoted under the Bamster.

    Grey Ghost

  11. So that hollyweird collectivist matt damon and others want ‘Australia style confiscation’? (with gov support, of course….).

    He and the other statist moonbats like whoopi batshit goldberg can all FOAD!

    The Matt that I pay more attention to is Matt Bracken!

    DEMOCIDE Socialism, Tyranny, Guns And Freedom

    Bracken: Democide (Article w/imbedded video above)

    Edmund Burke reconsidered in the light of 20th Century funeral pyres.
    “Remember: Evil exists because good men don’t kill the government officials committing it.” — Kurt Hofmann.

    Never give up your guns..but when they come for them give them
    the ammo first at the appropriate velocity/location (then retrieve THEIR guns/gear..lather, rinse, repeat..).

    Yours In daily ARMED Liberty!
    NorthGunner III