Bracken Sends

Per Matt:

I stumbled across this 9 minute blog cast from 2016.

I think it’s dead-bang on.

“Former Red Team Planner For The Federal Government Talks About Civil War Scenarios”

64 responses to “Bracken Sends

  1. A lot of truths. I just think red team has underestimated We The People’s will, to remain real Americans.

    With our differences culturally religiously, the Core nation, being conservative America have done a great job in keeping it together. If their are two or more people, their will be differences.

    Not a fanboy of the left, not interested in shooting em up, just yet.

    My stradegy “which admittedly could be deadly” is to let them start the festivities.

    I like my retired life. Sailing, shooting, rafting, fly fishing, motorcycling, Repeat. Pretty dammed good gig.

    Good listen, food for thought.

    I hear the truths, I’m just stubborn, and like weighing my options. I’m not someone who can follow ever again. I’m not interested in leading either. I don’t want the responsibility.


    • Abraham Goldstein

      We of Gen X and younger have no chance at such a retirement, Boomer.
      No pensions (or 401ks or money that can buy anything) (or medical care) for us. Thanks.

      When it starts, we will have to fight in our mid 40s, bad backs and knees and all. I was a ripped machine from the age of 19 to 37. As we all know, tough to avoid things like back pain after 40. That’s why a guy like Brett Favre was such an amazing exception to the rule. Playing his style of QB at the age of 42 was insane.

      I hear that those even younger than the “millenials” (originally called Gen Y) are the most red pilled of all. They will ensure a future for white children.

      How could they not? The communist propaganda they have received the last 18 years is so blatantly at odds with reality (see how MSM apparently thinks we are VERY stupid) that any white boy of average white intelligence can see through it.

  2. Viven los insurgentos!

  3. One should pray that the U.S. government’s fear of the people will not require violent reinforcement of the type discussed in that tape.

  4. Everybody “knows” the US govt. won’t start a civil war, for all the cited reasons. Throw in the fact that the US govt. is made up of fallible and venal humans, with irrationality and capriciousness being two hallmarks of humanity, and you’ll get the reality. The two monstrosities of WW1 and WW2, happened DELIBERATELY, even though the instigators KNEW about the consequences. The conditions for such a civil war exist now, and the fact is excruciatingly apparent. Despite any ones wishes to the contrary, when both sides are mentally preparing for a fight, the fight will happen, contrary to logic, reason, and intelligence. Boss man, how’s about this for a masthead? I have not yet begun to white! I know, I know, I’ve got to get my National Socialist tendencies under control. Jawohl. Oh, look, there’s Chuck Schumers’ niece……..

    • Great point. Every war had a bunch of experts saying it was a logical impossibility. Then after the war they proclaimed it to be “the war to end all wars.” Some day they’ll be right, but probably not today.

      One good thing now is that Trump as prez pretty much means a real CW can’t happen, since a majority of the military esp combat branches are behind him, most cops are behind him, and the best armed of the civilians are behind him.

      OTOH I think a lot of very powerful people see the Trump status quo as End Times for their reign, and perhaps the beginning even of prison sentences. So the gloves are going to come off.

      We ain’t seen nuthin’ yet

  5. Good find, but I doubt the government would be the ones to start a civil war – it may be foisted on them. We are less than one step from chaos in this country. Just look at how quickly looting starting taking place during the recent Oroville Dam evacuations in California, as an example. Almost any situation these days has a chance to totally spiral out of control.

  6. Amazing information, and well worth the listen to (aside from the profanity, which in this case does fit the message quite well). However, I do disagree with a couple of things. First off, I believe that the Main Stream Media would report the deaths of any rebels as the necessary deaths of terrorists, not fellow Americans.
    Also at the end the apparent conclusion is that a Civil War will not happen because the government knows it would be bad and therefore would never allow it to happen… Isn’t it possible that wars that everyone knows can’t happen (because everyone involved would have too much to lose) sometimes turn out to happen anyway?
    Maybe we will all be lucky and something like a group acting to take down the US power grid will never happen. However, God (or mother nature) gets a vote too… Apparently we had a near-miss with a Carrington level event some years back… ” A major solar eruptive event in July 2012, describes how a powerful coronal mass ejection (CME) tore through Earth orbit on July 23, 2012. Fortunately Earth wasn’t there. Instead, the storm cloud hit the STEREO-A spacecraft.”

    • Good points. Grid needs to be protected pronto for a multitude of very good reasons.

    • Agree.
      I think the problem w/ the analysis is it should have said that a CW is impossible while Trump or similar is president (see #2). CNN would be whinging about every civilian killed in that case, but the military, cops, and the heaviest armed of civilians would be cheering as Trump firebombed San Fran and New York.

  7. Very good analysis, high probability in each scenario, right up to the point where he asserts that there will be no CV because wouldn’t dare start one.

    It is not necessary for them to start it, and to rely on the good sense of the worst of them is a slender reed upon which to lean. That would be one way to ruin any chance for Trump to destroy them, one I’ve not seen mentioned elsewhere.

    As long as Trump is potus, ans if he continues to deliver and to destroy our enemies, chance are very good that no CV will happen.

    If he proves false or is defeated/assassinated… we will have no other recourse.

  8. POd American

    I was with this guy until his last sentence “the US fears the public too much to start a civil war.” I wouldn’t bet my life’s outcome on their fear….not with the sheer amount of super egos and stupidity running rampant in the feral government.

  9. Text from reddit. video links have a way of “breaking” -pdxr13
    [–]BobJohnsonIsRight 7 points 12 months ago 
    10,000 characters isn’t enough, so here we go!
    The United States Government has extensively studied the concept of second American Civil War (along the assumption that it will be left versus right. HMM. I WONDER WHY THEY MIGHT POSSIBLY DO THAT.)
    Their conclusion is as follows: They don’t have a snowball’s chance in Hell of winning. The moment civil war is declared, the government loses. No scenario or outcome ends in their success. Period. It’s just a matter of how long it takes.
    A longer analysis will follow, but here are the salient points.
    30% of the American population will actively revolt.
    This alone is enormous and damning. Historically, you only need 10% of the population to actively participate in a rebellion to successfully overthrow the establishment: We only had 15% of the population actively attempting to throw out the British during the Revolutionary War; roughly 70% of what remained was neutral and simply stood by. By contrast, 30% of Americans in modern America would support a revolution to stop their own government if it happened tomorrow That’s how discontent the people are and how much the people don’t support the government.
    The government would need infrastructure more than rebels would.
    Already working with significant handicaps, the establishment would need electricity, access to the Internet, bridges, and airports to coordinate any active campaign against the rebellion. By contrast, the rebellion can work in the dark. Considering how easy it would be to sabotage US infrastructure, one of the first things the rebellion would do is collapse bridges, destroy, or seize power plants, and cover the Interstate in IEDs. This is relatively simple to accomplish, and it would inflict enormous damage on the establishment’s ability to restore order. It would also cost an enormous amount of time and effort to fix any sabotage, because the establishment would need to provide military protection to any workers attempting to rebuild, which is a drain their active fighting personnel resources that they could not afford.
    Taking America in a land war is almost impossible.
    The United States is absolutely full of natural terrain chokepoints, making marching an army across it against armed resistance almost impossible, and it is large enough that no sustained air campaign would be possible. The Japanese Admiralty realized this themselves during WWII, which is why many of them were against attempting to invade. Also, by an interesting coincidence, most of those chokepoints are in hard conservative states, where the resistance would be strongest. The government would lack the ability to reclaim its own land by force, especially when the previous point about infrastructure is taken into account. President Lincoln, on the matter of potential European involvement in the first American Civil War, stated, “All the armies of Europe with a Bonaparte as a commander, could not take a drink from the Ohio.”
    A significant majority–between 55 and 70%–of the military would defect to the side of the citizens.
    The problem with suppressing the people with a military, that literature and fantasy tend to overlook or ignore, is that the military is the people, too. In order to get any military to fight their own, you first have to convince them that it is necessary to do so–that it is justified. The Communists also ran into this problem, but they overcame it with psychological conditioning and creating a dog-eat-dog atmosphere within the military. The American government having actively recruited people who are patriotic, practical, brave, who have civilian families, and having reinforced those values throughout their training process, lacks the ability to convince the majority of their fighting force to engage against their own people. The moment a civil war breaks out, over half of the American military will defect to the rebel side. They will bring military gear with them and, more dangerous, military training. lt only takes one Navy Seal or Army Ranger to potentially train hundreds of civilians into a dangerous resistance force. They’ve done it before, in other nations. You can be damn sure they can do it on their own home turf.
    But it gets better.
    At least 10% of the people who defect to the civilian side would not do so openly, and they would not abandon their posts.
    The moment a civil war starts, not only does America lose over half its military to the cause, but their own command structure will suddenly be infested with moles, plants, and “traitors.” There would be almost no way of knowing who is actually on their side and who is supporting the uprising. Worse yet, if one of those people happens to be the captain of one of the nuclear submarines on standby in dark water, the civil war is already lost before it even gets started.
    Russia has already publicly stated that it will support any rebellion in the United States against the established government and will send troops and aid to support the resistance. This is pretty self-explanatory. The last thing the government would need during a civil war is Russia breathing down its neck, but they would get exactly that. To supplement two-thirds of their own military leaving and civilians being trained by military elites, Spetsnaz would drop in and the resistance would get armor and air support from the only other nation on the planet that stands a decent chance of fighting us openly and winning.
    The media fearmongers because it’s profitable.
    The media, for all of its paid shillery, would give coverage of everything the resistance does because it is immensely profitable for them to do so. It would be guaranteed views. The only response the establishment would have would be to either allow it or order a total media blackout on the rebellion. Either way they lose, because both outcomes would awaken hundreds of thousands–if not millions–of people. We can only win on the media arena, and they can only lose. It’s merely a matter of what they think will minimize their losses.
    American civilians are armed and dangerous.
    In spite of all of the illegal attempts from the political left to disarm the American people, there are approximately 89 guns for every 100 Americans. Furthermore, we are one of the top three arms manufacturers on the planet (the others being Russia and France). The establishment would be in trouble even if their opponents were unarmed, but any rebellion of the people in America is, by definition, an armed one. They could be easily armed further by stealing weapons or even outright being given them by sympathetic interests (unsurprisingly, an overwhelming number of weapons manufacturers on American soil are deeply traditionalist, and the odds are good that many minor–and at least one major–would side with the rebels).
    The last resort Catch 22.
    The United States has an enormous stockpile of munitions and explosives, up to and including a massive number of nuclear warheads. But they cannot use any of this in this Civil War. The establishment has to play a game of “we’re the good guys” with the rest of the world while this is all taking place. There will be lines they cannot cross, because to do so would elevate the issue from being an internal matter to an international one. The moment they throw an ICBM at Ohio or drop a nuke on Austin, Texas, it stops being a civil war and becomes an international relief effort where the other militaries of the other first world nations come to save the American people from their own out-of-control and tyrannical government. The rebellion, meanwhile, is not nearly so limited re: the hypothetical nuclear submarine captain. The rebels could threaten–without bluffing–to nuke Washington DC, but the establishment has no equivalent threat they could return.
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    [–]BobJohnsonIsRight 3 points 12 months ago 
    Former red team planner for the government here. If there was a revolution in the US, the rest of the world would get involved, fast. Depending on the type of uprising, there is a large chance that it would not be a quick affair. It would be brutal, it would be bloody, and the US government could start a global scale war. Here are the top ten issues that came up.
    1) The US power grid can be taken down by a series of “surgical strikes” with the exception of the Texas grid. By surgical strikes, I mean a few marksmen (US army-tier Marksmen–the minimum requirement) hitting certain spots on the grid would fuck a lot of the military and government because they need the grid more than Bubba and his friends do. Additionally, while all government agencies have backup generators, they will be hard pressed dealing with the resultant looting and other madness that would come with power outages. This would effectively create another front for the military. It would also turn the people against the government more quickly and paralyze the government’s propaganda machine. Worse still–the key points of the US power grid are publicly obtainable information, and not only are the points too many to be effectively guarded, they are not guarded anyway.
    2) The estimated desertion rate in case of a civil war is 75% in the case of a left-wing president. 50% of that would be assumed to immediately betray the president. The remaining (treasonous) military would be fighting its own. Yet another front created in the war. Additionally, there is an assumed 25-50% desertion or outright betrayal rate in three letter government agencies (FBI, CIA, NSA, ATC, TSA, etc.). Additionally, it is assumed that 5% of the initial 50% betrayers would stay in their job and become saboteurs. 10% of that 50% would contain key information that would be of critical danger to the US government. Of that 10%, 1% would be able to deliver that information to the US’ foreign enemies. What you should get from this is that the second the United States government declares war on its own is the second it ceases to exist as the state we know it.
    3) “Tea baggers,” “right-wing extremists,” and “oath keepers” which are considered untrained racists who aren’t “good with a gun” often are A) veterans who now have more time to have fun at the range, sometimes more than some Army units or Marine units. In addition to previous military training, B) often camp and do other outdoor activities–more than many in the military do, as the focus has gone away from field exercises, and C) often have better equipment–outside of armor and heavy weapons–than the military. However, C) is kind of irrelevant because many of the places in which these people could hide would make the kind of war the US fights with the equipment they use pointless.
    4) Outside influence is a huge problem. Russia has already stated they would back a Texas separatist movement, and right now we already have enough problem keeping Islam in check. The second the US has to fight in a “civil war” is the second it becomes a proxy war between NATO and whoever wants to mess with America. While America has amazing nuclear and air defense, if it comes to a civil war you have to assume that in a best cast scenario the US military is going to be operating at 50% capacity at best. Shit would go down. Hard. And fast. And if Russia–spoiler alert: one of the best militaries in the world at fighting in an urban environment–sent trainers and helpers to rebels, you can reliably bet that they would also possibly deliver weapons to them. So instead of fighting “Timmy TeaBagger,” you are fighting “Timmy TeaBagger who is buddies with Vlad.”
    5) A civil war is not just the US versus the rebels. There will be looting. There will be rioting. Cities will burn. The National Guard cannot fight both the rebels and rioters in a city that would also cut off their supplies. Additionally, if you don’t think that the rebels will send in instigators into the cities–or worse, stand alone actors (A Lone Wolf on steroids. Think Timothy McVeigh, but instead of one van they have a whole fleet of them. A good movie example would be Bane)–you would be mistaken. If the US government cannot even help its own people, why would its own people support the remaining (treasonous) military? Worse yet, if someone emptied out prisons (There are more prisoners in the US than there are people in the entire Chinese Army), you would have more crime than the police could ever handle.
    6) Logistics and infrastructure in the US are crumbling and failing. Any war fought against a rebellion in the US would be a logistical nightmare, even before the rebels started going full Al-Qaida and putting IEDs in the road. A retired general who was contracting with us on the team said, “The only thing holding together the US’ infrastructure is duct tape and the will of the Department of Transportation. And often enough, there isn’t enough duct tape.” Your most loyal cities to the US government, as we polled, are also the most logistically easy to cut off. NYC? San Fran? L.A.? D.C.? Baltimore? Most of them require crossing water to enter, from certain directions. Most of them have critical airports. Some of them have critical ocean ports. If anything happened to just TWO of the cities on the list, it would create a logistical clusterfuck.
    7) Your “Johnny Reb” and “Timmy TeaBagger” states (i.e., “red” states) all have something most of your “oh so progressive,” “Aren’t we so European,” “Oh my god, we are just like Sweden,” blue states don’t. Blues are mainly consumer states. Reds are producer states. Urban areas don’t have farms. The second that shit goes down, realize a lot of those blue areas are likely to starve. In a civil war scenario, we predicted that at least 10,000 people would die of starvation if the war was not finished in a year. The numbers get worse after that. Or better, rather, for the country after the war.
    8) The US has way too many choke points, and the government forces would often be on the wrong side of them. This ties into the logistical nightmare, but it also has to do with an odd phenomena. Liberals like to live near the ocean. Many of the dividers of the country, like the Rocky Mountains, the Mississippi River, Appalachia, the Missouri River (fun fact: the biggest choke point for the US government is in Missouri) are red state areas. Sure, air travel is a thing, but a majority of the US government’s needs would have to travel by ground. Even still, many of the major airports are outside of the city. Of course, the US would use military base air fields, but if civil war did break out… which bases would be safe? Which ones would have fallen to the deserters?
    9) PR Nightmare. Every rebel killed on CNN would be spun as “the US government killed X Civilians today in a strike” on foreign news and pirate media not owned by the government. That is–as pointed out earlier–if the US media could even function in a civil war or uprising. Your “rebel scum” know that the main thing that holds together the US–nay life in the US as we know it–is the 24 hour news cycle and the media. The second it’s gone, you are going to have urban anarchy. If you are from America, can you imagine a day without TV, newspaper, or Internet? Your average urban youth can’t. If you don’t think that isn’t going to cause rioting, you must have a real high regard for how much restraint they have. Assume in a civil war that your ability to talk to the people is compromised. Also assume that in the case of a civil war that rebels may know how to monitor conversations like the US does, as there are manuals online on how to do so.
    10) This one is either 1 or 10, depending on who is asked. The US will never nuke its own. The second it does, they have lost the civil war and other countries will come to “liberate” the US from its own “repressive regime.” Additionally, if any general, minuteman, nuke tech, or nuke sub captain decided to side with the rebellion, the US government is immediately SOL.
    In short: The second that a “civilian uprising” or “extremist group terrorist attack” turns into “civil war” is the second the US loses. As a result, you will never see a civil war. You will see Waco, you will see Bundy Ranch, you will see all sorts of militant group confrontations and maybe even some skirmishes. But the US government fears its own people way the fuck too much to ever start a civil war.
    As an American, I want all other Americans here to remember this. The government is against you, almost openly now, but they also know that they cannot win if it comes to open war. We have a trump card they cannot match. If it comes to a fight, THEY WILL LOSE, so there are elements in the establishment who will do absolutely everything in their power to prevent it from coming to that. The US Government is not in support of its people, and the people are not in support of the government.
    It is within the means of certain interests to start World War III simply as a distraction to avoid an American Civil War, because, by their reckoning, it is better to ruin other “lesser” nations like Syria and spill the blood of patriots than lose their own grip on power. ***********YOU HEARD RIGHT. WORLD WAR III ITSELF COULD BE A DELIBERATE FALSE FLAG TO PREVENT A POWER CHANGE IN AMERICA. REMEMBER THIS.***********
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  10. I am not able to see the video

  11. ….aaaaand out of the 10 events discussed, it would only take 1 or 2 to kick things off. Think about that. Think about some ghetto bunnies leaving the blacked out hood and blitzing into the suburban areas to steal food, guns….women.

    Sleep well tonight because none of that can happen here, right?


    Sounds like a cross between MOLON LABE and Chittum’s Civil War Two. Could this be some government troll trying to provoke something? White Papers and written analyses do not normally use slang and derogatory and/or profane language to get their points across.
    First point not brought up about the active Army/Marines, Reserves and National Guard units are the amount of Latinos in uniform. I say this because if The Donald decides to use these assets domestically, vis-a-vis a “roundup” of their wetback co-ethnics, there will be considerable blowback. No Mexican is going to point his/her AR at another Mexican. They will shoot their white officers and NCOs and then kill all comers.
    Second Point not brought up is the leftists on both coasts, in the event of Civil War Two could very easily secede and welcome intervention by opportunistic foreign powers. This has been discussed on this site before when the CALEXIT articles appeared. The white citizens and others with guns and property would end up refugees, since they would be facing Chinese troops and not some small-time Antifa mob. And, while we are talking about foreign troops, what about the Russians? If Mr. Putin will not roll over the fascist NATO-puppet government in the Ukraine, a big threat on his own border, why would he want to stick his nose into something far away from Moscow.
    Last, you cannot discount this from happening by stating: “…we’ll have Ruby Ridges, Wacos, Bundy Ranches, etc. but not civil war.” Think back. Chittum profiles the 10+ year run-up to 1861 with all kinds of incidents between the Abolitionist useful idiots in the North and the Firebrands in the South. Think Harper’s Ferry. An economic hiccup substantial enough could snowball into looting and shooting. Local cops would be running for their lives and the FEDGOV would not have enough fingers to plug all the holes in the dikes.
    All of this talk just makes me prep harder. Bleib ubrig.

    • This is I believe what Gen Mattis meant by “everyone you meet”.

    • The point about Putin not being willing to get involved… a few shipping containers a month of AKs, ammo, RPGs and enough supplies to keep it going would effectively cost him NOTHING. He could send the material marked with Cuban markings to fuzz the origins. To keep an insurgency going is nothing to a nation-state.
      Chittum’s book is some important reading. Understand the context in which he wrote it as a veteran of some overseas action not on the U.S. dime.

      • “The point about Putin not being willing to get involved… a few shipping containers a month of AKs, ammo, RPGs and enough supplies to keep it going would effectively cost him NOTHING…”

        Not to mention more guys like Viktor Bout making piles of money from arms smuggling.

    • A fair number of Americas finest warriors are of the Scots/Irish persuasion. We take that clan and family quite serious…This will not be different from any other war. All wars suck and they smell bad.There is no half-stepping.

      • We Scots Irish have been in a continuous line of service in one way or another from the Revolution onward and I’ll go far enough to state that without the Scots Irish there would’ve been no Revolution.

        Keep in mind that our percentage of the overall population has dropped to only about 1%. Although we are among the best warriors that have ever existed on the planet, we simply don’t have the numbers to rescue America from both external enemies and itself.

        Time for other people to step up and help.

    • “No Mexican is going to point his/her AR at another Mexican. They will shoot their white officers and NCOs and then kill all comers.”

      You assume a LaRaza-like mindset. At least here in Texas its far from that. I know many ethic Mexican-Americans who despise the illegals. Of those I know about half are either serving or retired military and they would have no reservation about pulling the trigger on the interlopers. When one is the canary in the coal mine radical changes in one’s neighborhood by illegal undesirables tends to focus the mind. Kicking those elements out being one of them.

  13. That sounds like fun, yeah, lets do that.

  14. Haven’t we discussed this sort of thing many times? Some here, some at prepper sites. Many possible scenarios are included in the post-apocalyptic fiction–regardless of how poorly-written that much of that is.

    Seems to me that the big unknown is the initial cause. E.g., a financial meltdown could begin wide-scale rioting which leads to breakdowns in food and fuel deliveries. Vandalism could lead to losses in portions if not all of the electric grid.

    Sit back, train, watch, prep and cross your fingers…

  15. Those guys are right. It won’t be the US government that starts civil war. It will be some key actors or an actor inside the nucleus of the shadow government/deep state who will pull a real boner. One of those fuckers has a hair across his ass because the dirt people had the audacity to upset the apple cart and take away his rice bowl, and get real vindictive or stunningly stupid and jump the shark.

    Some key things things have changed since that audio clip was published. A dirt people revolution happened, and it has a leader and symbol of The Great Fuck You. When those state actors pull a nutty, it is going to backfire like nobody saw it coming, A black swan like no other.

    The way things are going as Trump is cutting out sections of the infection, pretty soon he will go too far for these fucking scumbags.
    They have no scruples, they are dishonest, they lie, steal, cheat, extort, bribe, influence, connive, and intimidate their way through this government.

    There is no life for them outside their “safe zones” and “safe places”. There are no jobs for them within spitting distance of 100 grand of the paycheck and bennies they enjoy running their little shadow government.
    The day they are cut loose many are economically toast. They can’t afford the cost to live within a 250 miles miles of the DC metro and it’s suburbs without that .gov paycheck. It’s going to make some of them crazy mad.

    And we ain’t even talking about the sociopaths and psychopaths with an agenda who infect every branch and just about every seat of power the last few administrative regimes have enabled to be entrenched in this spoils system.

    They have to get rid of President Donald Trump. As a spoils and shadow power racket they won’t survive to the end of his terms the rate he is chipping away at their bases of power and their resources. They probably won’t survive a whole year. Somebody is going to get postal like, pull a desperation move. You can smell it. They are getting real sketchy and explody head.

    Now, See all those dirt people who believe in Trump? There’s literally millions of every day dirt people. They are pretty regular folks. They ain’t sheet metal chewing high speed low drag insurgents of 4th generation war of the dirt people variety, but in that plurality exists a core of the resistance, even though they don’t know they are, yet, they are the key to a war of rejection of the state as it exists, the auxiliary underground.

    They don’t even know it. But they will, because if one of those breathtakingly arrogant cocksuckers of the shadow government or deep state does the JFK on Trump or a couple in his immediate administration or hand picked appointments, or tries pulling some crazy ass stunt like a coup, or task hit squads on taking out influential thought leaders like in the liberty movement or Alt-Right: an awful lot of those dirt people be like the fuckers want to try to pull the rug out from under us?
    They become the I’m gonna get you sucka dirt people, they will have a serious change of heart. They are gonna be Max Velocity’s Because Fuck You Thats Why people. Those dirt people are going to be looking for away to deliver some comeuppance.

    How it will happen, is just kind of natural like. Everyone isn’t going to say, Hey! Lets everyone have a 4th generation war! Nope, it’s going to happen like all good old fashion grass roots dirt people things happen. When things get tough, and they see their fellow dirt people in need, it begins with a couple people here, somebody over there. But it spreads, and it grows, and the shit starts where the shadow gov tries to double down, that only makes more active and passive resistors. It’s a vicious self feeding loop.

    That auxiliary is going to change everything, the entire dynamic. Because the reality is there is no body of people large as it, none with the natural capacity and potential as a reseviour of resources and organic resort that can withstand the societal collapse where 4th gen war is waged. It’s a body of people who have a legacy and cultural memory that resistance is not only not futile, it is successful as history proves. That’s no small thing. It is why everyone out to destroy this nation hates and fears us dirt people. What happened before can happen again. There are no guarantee’s it can not happen again.

    Now Trump is no dummy. He knows he is President because of The Great Fuck You, The Great Fuck You knows Trump is winning Because Fuck You Thats Why in living color.
    Trump has a true popular movement behind him because he went out and treated the dirt people with dignity and respect. He didn’t blow smoke up their arses and kiss the babies for votes, he said exactly what they have all been saying and thinking. It isn’t rocket science, he didn’t pander, gerrymander or sugar coat anything. It was plain simple down to earth truth everyone already knew. And the guy has not stopped for one day in honoring those promises and goals he said he would commit to achieving with the power invested in him by the power of the will of the governed who voted for him.
    See that? Holy Shit! The power of the will of the governed. Now what are the chances of that? How about it. If Donald Trump ain’t a black swan I don’t know what is.

    Not the state, not the party, not an ideology, not an agenda. But the will of the plurality of Americans.

    That makes President Donald Trump, via the power and audacity of rejection of the status quo by the dirt people, the most powerful, and the most dangerous man alive.

    Now if your a deep state or shadow government actor or operative, it is pretty safe assumption one of you our a group is going to have to put a stop to that.
    Anyone here think they all will just pack their belongings in a cardboard box and quietly walk away?

    Hey, these fuckers don’t give a rats ass about me or you or any of us dirt people. They obviously don’t respect the President of The United States. They have no respect for the rule of law of our land and they deliberately violate all checks and balances against usurpation of the law and the power entrusted.

    But there’s something else. If they all go peacefully more or less, guess what? We Win.

    Two bases of power are trying to occupy the same system of government.
    The two bases of power can not exist at the same time.
    Isn’t going to happen.
    They are mutually exclusive of the other.
    There’s going to be a fight.

    And when it has come down to it, everyone has consistently without fail but for a tiny plurality, ignored, betrayed, spit on, underestimated, and written off the audacity and motive power inherent in the dirt people.
    Even when the dirt people won against a world wide multi billion dollar influence and racketeering organized crime syndicate that enjoyed the monopoly of a totally influence empowered and financed 5th column media organ, complete control of the economy, literally unfettered power of the federal government to harass, bankrupt, silence, imprison, spie on, threaten, even murder in cold blood all who dared defy them, an entire political system geared specifically to conning, disenfranchising and undermining the dirt people, and an alien army of foreign invaders to gerrymander and assist in rigging the voting system.
    Us dirt people won what was said was impossible.
    Even people here and on other alternative media sites.
    They still cry we will all loose!
    We are doomed! Wah!
    Resistance is futile! Wah!
    I need my ninny bottle! Wah!
    My diapers are full! Wah! Wah!

    Because Fuck You Motherfuckers Thats Why.

  16. the war has already begun.

    if you have any doubts.

    “you are seriously behind the learning curve”

    • …Seemingly a small thing but in reality a massive intelligence disaster, happened on February 13, 2017, when Trump along with advisor Steve Bannon, now fired Mike Flynn, Japanese President Abe, wives, restaurant staff and fellow diners, took part in what was an ad hoc emergency meeting of the National Security Council.

      North Korea had just held a missile test violating Japan’s airspace. Trump reacted with considerable drama, showing off for the crowd while he phoned military leaders and put the US on high alert.

      Let’s get some context on what the real problem with “airing dirty laundry” is. Back during the Cold War, the only way the US could get close to observing Soviet leaders under stress was from high value CIA assets, of which there were few. America waited each year from the Mayday parade to watch body language and position on the review stands and then wrote copious reports extrapolating each nuance into volumes.

      Here, Trump gave any potential enemy “the family jewels.” Trump already has a presidential advisor, Jared Kushner, who openly works for Israeli intelligence and lifelong business associates like Felix Sater who are among the world’s most dangerous criminals.

      The next huge gaff by Trump involves his knowledge of the FBI’s investigation of Flynn’s Russian contact, which officially began with an interview two weeks before. It is alleged that President Trump was both knowledgeable about the Flynn phone calls and the also “alleged” perjury by Flynn during his FBI interview.

      In the kind of “what did Trump know and when did he know it” situation that brought down the Nixon presidency, we now quite probably have a “smoking gun” that could bring down the Trump presidency.



      • Don’t take everything about Trump at face value, it makes you look like a simpleton.

        I don’t care if Trump has a basement full of dismembered corpses, as long as those corpses are liberals.

  17. Let the parasitic narcissistic sociopath class commit suicide.
    Let those who favor/support ‘gov/authority’ (and the violence, theft
    and slavery that it engenders and THEY SUPPORT) commit suicide.
    We who live free of it just have to make sure to stay clear of the
    flailing tail of the dying dinosaur that is the ‘state’.

    Yours in Daily Armed Liberty via anarchy!
    NorthGunner III

  18. Well there you go Babyboomers, now you all can rip and quit commenting on this civil war. Enjoy retirement and church. Thanks for making more Babyboomers who are now making more Babyboomers who more or less probably think just like you.

    Approaching threshold…

  19. We who prayed and wept
    for liberty from kings
    and the yoke of liberty
    accept the tyranny of things
    we do not need.
    In plenitude too free,
    we have become adept
    beneath the yoke of greed.

    Those who will not learn
    in plenty to keep their place
    must learn it by their need
    when they have had their way
    and the fields spurn their seed.
    We have failed Thy grace.
    Lord, I flinch and pray,
    send Thy necessity.

  20. Russia doesn’t need/want North America as a place to send Russians, especially not valuable Russian soldiers, to do occupation detail. I could see smuggled hardware for anyone who can pay. Not Red Dawn,

    False Flag? Sure. Remember 9-11-2001, or OKC Federal /Building? Ask engineers and bomb people for details.

    See above for full-text of reddit post. It wasn’t a White Paper with attribution, but there are some points to consider with alternate actions noted in reasonable fiction.

    People can live without grid electricity for a long time, but they won’t be happy. Thirsty and hungry will be the new standard, so don’t look better off than average if seen in public. Small amounts of electricity (enough to charge your phone/flashlight, HF radio batteries, small drone, thrifty laptop, maybe even a small DC refrigerator) can be made and stored without noticeable solar arrays or internal combustion noise/smell. The 1500/watt-hrs per day that you can get from some panels not visible from the ground will be useful. Charging deep cycle batteries (or start batteries _SLA_ being abused for deep-cycle duty ) is a “middle income” career in rural African villages, and might be the same here when “just a little power” is all that’s needed to run the phone/tablet with e-currency inside.

    You can’t live long without clean water. City drinking and firefighting water needs electricity to flow. Many city sewers don’t flow (away) without electricity, either. This might be why wealthy/powerful people don’t choose to live on low ground.

    10,000 dead in a year from starvation is a very optimistic number. Add the number of people who die of lung infections (TB, flu, colds, etc.) because of crowding, cold that healthy people would easily survive & suppressed immune function to the number who have ribs showing when they die.

    Got hand-washing stations (gravity/foot-pump, no-touch soap) and seemingly-unlimited disposable table ware? Endless wool hats/silk-polypro underclothes/socks? 5×7′ & 10 x 10′ tarps? Ability to launder clothes (clean-ish clothing is warmer than filthy, re-use contaminated items after cleaning)? Good clothes mean that you can keep warm with fewer calories.

  21. I submit for your consideration … The government in Mordor won’t start a war. A war will start from a small event, such as a major storm that takes down a power grid. Let’s say like the east coast black-out from several years ago. The urban youth and various activists will take advantage of the confusion to enrich themselves under cover of darkness. The lawlessness will begin to spread, slowly. The cascade of events will have started tho’. The unrest will spread as more hives see there are no repercussions, no law enforcement willing to confront the rioters. Thus it will spread. Like a snowball starts the avalanche, the rock that starts the landslide. The Black Swan will spread wings of darkness, government(s) will have lost control, and desire. All hell will be out for noon. Katie bar the door.

  22. I don’t have much disagreement with this other than one blind spot of the author’s – the imagined insertion of foreign troops into America. Why would the leader of ANY country send perfectly good troops to be killed in America, when (with the economy crashing) he will need every troop he can lay his hands on to keep control in his country? America still leads the way, and if America rebels you can be sure there will be rebellions elsewhere. Just witness the populist uprising going on everywhere. If there is one thing we DON’T have to worry about, it is blue helmets. Any fighting in America will be between home-grown factions, the usual assholes making a grab for power.

    • Canada and America signed a treaty a few years ago to provide mutual military aid if needed domestically. So Canadian troops are possible. Of course the rebellion might spread very quickly to Canada as well, keeping them at home.

      • For that matter, some believe that the Southwest has been secretly ceded to Mexico. If so, they may be called upon to secure their future possession – and may be eager to do so.

    • that’s right. The world will hold its breath as ‘Murka disintegrates….then the chaos will be mirrored elsewhere. Venezuela might intervene, though. See also “The Fourth Texas-Israel War” about 30 years on.

      • The entire nation of Venezuela can’t even collectively make itself a sandwich right now.

        The couldn’t intervene in a bathroom fight in Caracas over the last roll of toilet paper, let alone project any force overseas.

    • Re: See CWI, British and French involvement in the war. British were having problems in India at the time, the French to a minor extent in north africa.

  23. ‘Secrecy dominates this world and, foremost is the secret to domination”

    Lots of chatter & suppositions flying around lately. Somebody at the top wants to keep the tension & anxiety stoked. We are past the Rubicon of what we once were & the trajectory indicates a Sea Change is imminent at some point. What I’m astounded by is despite all the obvious Crisis Initiation Events (aka False Flags) & MSM Social Engineering & conditioning in our milieu, that people are still ignorant, apathetic & complacent about what has already transpired in our society. The real news should be why are Americans still tolerating ‘Fake News’ and a Deep State ? Our Republic Democracy has historically always had a transition of power when a new POTUS has been elected. That is our culture & traditionally a part of our democratic process in action. We all saw it coming, most of us here discussed it knew it, sentiently felt it, used our logos & gnosis unraveling the Marxist – Trotsky tactics & methodologies yet somehow we are still there even w/ a new POTUS.Unless Trump dismantles this Deep State paradigm it’s hard to imagine any modicum of order & stability.

    Interesting times to live in.

    Is an American Coup d’etat in Progress?

  24. “Every man to his family and his belongings”

  25. Civil war will be instigated by the left, not Contitutionalists. This guy is completely wrong. The left has already started the conflict. Harpers Ferry has already happened. Conflits don’t just start from thin air. It is a progression of events, violent in nature, that ultimately lead to all out war. You will see a series of violent attacks, each more violent than the last, as we move forward in 2017.

  26. The main problem w/ the article is that it assumes US CW2 will be similar to US CW1. Our problem isn’t our government being corrupt, our problem is that about 50% of voters support a government being corrupt while about 50% support a government being libertarian. We talk about the blue/red urban/rural divide, and which states are red and which blue, etc. But many don’t realize that even the most red of states like Montana still had ~43% of its population vote for Obama in 2012. And the most blue of states also has about 40% of its population voting Republican.

    When CW2 comes it won’t be men in uniform marching off to kill people 100s of miles away, it will be small groups in blue jeans and windbreakers exterminating nearby neighborhoods like in the Yugoslavian civil war, or like the savage border skirmishing of Kansas/Missouri in our CW1 that most like to forget about.

  27. Roll on Roll off ships makes Chinese intervention much easier.
    Mexico has already captured California and by extension China has.
    They already see themselves as another country. We are arguing over where the border will be. It will not be the Rio Grande.
    Maybe the Colorado River will be one border. Both Colorado Rivers.
    That is also the name of the river that runs through Austin, TX.
    Keeping it South of I-20 and I-40 will be the issue.
    Utah will be Utah. Mormons always wanted their own country.
    I hope you North California guys can be free.
    China will take every West coast Port city.
    Then we might see nukes used against Chinese troops on US soils.
    Then they take out the East Coast population centers.
    Blade Runner comes next.
    I always wondered how Los Angels came to be dominated by Asians.

  28. By your leave sirs:

  29. We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest. ~ James Paul Warburg

    I hate to burst anyone’s bubble… but you will… because “they” will.

    They are not frikkin kidding. And… I wouldn’t underestimate them an iota.

    Try to wrap around your heads these words: They are TRUE BELIEVERS.

    Trump may be a reprieve in the short term, but he’s not the Long March. NOW is the time to put your children/grandchildren into any one of the reputable Combat/Survival Schools. After 2025, if not sooner, all bets are off.

  30. The ball is in motion. John has a sharp pencil.

    Let’s hope he knows how to stab someone in the eye with it.

  31. Bracken’s presentation as good as it is did not include certain State agents. CIA/NSA. It is not in the interest of those in elected positions and to certain extent appointed position beholden to elected positions to foster a civil war. That event erodes their power. But can the same be said of the CIA/NSA? They are already in open lawfare against CIC. If they thought they could benefit from a coup I believe they would try.

  32. From Zorost,
    “When CW2 comes it won’t be men in uniform marching off to kill people 100s of miles away, it will be small groups in blue jeans and windbreakers exterminating nearby neighborhoods like in the Yugoslavian civil war, or like the savage border skirmishing of Kansas/Missouri in our CW1 that most like to forget about.”


    I don’t know how it will start, how it will progress, or how it will end, and neither does anyone else. We can all prognosticate and pontificate, but of one thing I am sure, it will come at some point. This is a divided country, divided about four ways into four different cultures/ways of thinking/lifestyles/ that are all diametrically opposed to one another and will gleefully see the others burn if possible.

    How it will play out in the big city/metropolitan areas I do not have a clue. I do know out here in the dirt country around medium sized cities of 50-200 thousand and the millions of acres between them (draw a circle around Abilene-Wichita Falls-Amarillo-Lubbock and back to Abilene) that there will not be a call to prayer heard after it starts. All this la-raza Mexican nationalism bullshit will end too.

    Hey, don’t burn that co-ran, we’ll need it when the toilet paper runs out!