On multiple levels.
And didn’t history actually begin on some bridge in North America back in 1775?
While Saker is spot on about the impostors of the synagogue of Satan, the fractured “authority” of Orthodox Christianity testifies that it does not have the necessary mark of oneness, hence is disqualified as being the True Church.
Jesus founded one Church (singular, not plural, in Matthew 16:18), a visible Church to govern (Matthew 16:19 & 18:18), teach (Matthew 28:19-20), and sanctify (Matthew 28:18-19; John 20:23).
Divinely and logically consistent with His commissions, Jesus founded one Church, singular, with one central authority (Matthew 16:19 & 18:18), a visible organized society (Mark 4:11), and called for oneness of doctrine (John 17:11, 21-23).
Jesus did not found an anarchy of churches, whether Protestant or “Orthodox,” having mutually exclusive doctrines or competing claims of authority that are merely private interpretation writ large. http://judaism.is/private-interpretation.html
Note too the existence and acceptance by the Apostles of the Roman hierarchy from the earliest days of the Church.
History of the Catholic Church,
Vol. 1 (of 8) Period of Early Expansion
by Rev. Fernand Mourret ( translator Rev Newton Thompson),
“And I say to thee, thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church of a thousand denominations, each with competing beliefs and ideals, some of which will assert ‘sola scriptura’ while at the same time denying the plain meaning of my words, and all will go to heaven….” said no Bible verse, ever.
That’s very good. You apparently know a thing or two. Also good that you step up in a forum with a significant number of atheists. 🙂
And to those of us here who are proud and unabashed Neo-Pagans
this means zip!
Worship as you will, as long as it doesn’t ‘break my leg or pick my pocket’ I’ve
got no qualm..unless one tries to force it on me (and I don’t force my beliefs
on anyone else). Those who’ve tried that with me were told to knock it off.
Wisely, they listened…
Yours in Daily Armed Liberty via anarchy!
It is Muslims and Communists who say believe as I do or I will kill you. Christ offers you the option of his salvation, through his church. It is completely your choice.
And now, there is an unholy alliance of jihadist Islam and Communism to take down American Liberty. And right you are Longbow, “the faith of Jesus Christ” is a matter of free choice….”where the Spirit of the LORD is, there is Liberty” (II Corinthians 3:17) Secular progressives and religionists impose their agenda by force. And it is a part f my Liberty to resist their tyranny by force.
If your promise was credible, you’d already be in today’s news for solving this leg breaking/pocket picking religious problem: http://judaism.is/news.html
A few other things to add….
While the article is geared towards so-called “Russophobia”, it is plainly clear that the author is a “Russophile.” As such, he conveniently glosses over the fact that Charlemagne’s ascension as the first Holy Roman Emperor was done because he submitted to the authority of the Pope, not the other way around. From thereon, the entire structure of the west was based upon that principle, as the divine right of kings was backed by the Church, but the king’s submitted to the authority of Rome. That is until the heretic Luther spun the wheels of grandeur inside the minds of certain individuals, culminating with King Henry VIII deciding in 1530 that he needed a new wife, and because the Pope (correctly) wouldn’t nullify his marriage to Catherine of Aragon, he made himself the head of the Church of England. After that all bets were off in the west, and we have what we have today in most of northern Europe who eventually followed the lead of Henry VIII.
To the contrary, the Eastern Church allowed the Patriarch to be dictated to by the Emperor in matters of faith, and which even today submits to temporal authority rather than ecclesial authority. That was the primary reason for the “great schism”, because the Patriarch of the east would not submit to the authority of Rome, but rather did the bidding of the Emperor of Byzantium. This was especially important in the selection of the episcopate, as in the east, the Emperor chose them, or told the Patriarch whom he favored. Obviously, there were politics involved in all of these decisions, east or west, but in the east it was more of a directive, rather than a political compromise.
The Russian Orthodox Church was part of the governance of Russia under the Czars, and was disliked by the populace because of it. The Russian Orthodox Church co-operated with the communists initially in 1917, but later were persecuted by the very same communists. During WWII, Stalin invited the Russian Orthodox Church to grow and encourage people to fight for the motherland, and this led them becoming the “official” state religion of the Soviet Union. However, Kruschev changed this in the late 50’s, and the Russian Orthodox Church was suppressed again. It gained ground later after Kruschev, and is now resurgent under Putin, but they are still in co-operation with the government. In that regard, the Russian Orthodox Church has always been viewed as an organ of the state.
“Badthink” indeed. A literate and historically accurate piece such as this shall surely provide offence to “the smartest guy in the room.”
By the way, did anyone take notice of this recent occurance which went down in the last four days? http://www.newsweek.com/isis-militants-chemical-weapons-attack-soldiers-iraq-585174
ISIS using chemical weapons in a serial fashion. Calling all Tomahawks! Mr. Trump, where are you?
And for the record, last week “the smartest guy in the room” dismissed the observations made by a chemistry professor and chemical weapons expert at The Massachussetts Institute of Technology wherein the professor argued that Sarin gas was not used in Syria given that the people treating the injured were not dying themselves, nor were the effects on the victims similar to that of a Sarin attack. While denigrating the opinion of a man with clear expertise in the field as well as one prone to act on evicence and intellect rather than emotion, “the smartest guy” also quipped something along the lines of and to paraphrase, “Who cares what some Ivy Leaguer thinks.”
For the record, M.I.T. is not a member of the “Ivy League” and never has been.
Back in 1969 Lawrence Peter’s coined what has come to be known as “The Peter Principle”, arguing that more often than not people are “promoted to their level of incompetence.” When dealing with a “self-promoter”, well, you can see where that leads and do so rather quickly.
And here is where that leads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDBCiZKZi_g .
fuck trumpf and those who support his carnival barking ass.
Pete closed the forums primarily because of you recently.
can’t handle reality huh?
Yeah, and I think you were #1 on the shit list before that.
Now, I think a re-read of that particular thread directly disputes your assertion. Comments were closed due to the kindergarten-esque equivalent of “mom…he’s looking at me again” Go back and read it.
tfA-t does what he does, as do you, by the way. Last I looked, you have not moderated your comments to enable you to play well with others, either. Both of you provoke, and deliberately so. I think it serves as a sort of homeopathic remedy to reduce sensitivity. You know…sort of like wearing a pair of loose fitting shoes builds callouses.
>>> kindergarten-esque equivalent of “mom…he’s looking at me again”
Boston – April 19th – National Guard units seeking to confiscate a large collection of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed by elements of a para-military extremist militia. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.
Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement.
Governor Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group’s organizers as “criminals,” issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government’s efforts to secure law and order.
The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.
Governor Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms.
Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in neighboring Lexington, MA met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government’s plans.
During a tense standoff in Lexington, the National Guard commander ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists.
Eight extremists were killed in the ensuing exchange.
One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that “none of these people would have been killed had the extremists simply obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily.”
Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, armed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith of the National Guard, finding his forces over matched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat.
Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against government authorities.
The ringleaders of the extremist faction identified by authorities so far — Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock — remain at large.
Model citizens, to be sure…
Thanks for posting this. I first remember seeing it in Boston’s Gun Bible btw.
Happy Patriot’s Day!!
Too bad that they didn’t succeed in the Whiskey Rebellion…’Ol George
and Alex ‘the lawyer/bankster and his cronies/buddies should have gone
to the wall or the nearest rope and tree…might have saved a great
deal of trouble and innocents later, especially Ruby Ridge and Waco!
Yours in Daily Armed Liberty!
Are you kidding?
The brainwashed and stupid ‘troops’ will die protecting the system.
Most vets will also defend the criminal class. It’s all they know.
In the end, the berets and tridents will be turned on the people- as they can’t defeat any real foreign enemy, so they will set their sights on the fat and dumb murkins who are blissfully ignorant flag wavers. Oh. and they’re not as bad as they like to think themselves. Take away the trillion $ taxpayer funded support system and they are even less effective.
Dick breath trumpf is buddy buddy with eric prince… that speaks volumes.
But don’t fret, the poLICE will protect and serve the commoners…
The murkins simply deserve everything that’s coming to them.
Some very important history did in fact happen on a bridge in NA in 1775, yes. Won’t claim that’s where history started, but yeah, it mattered.
What matters in the right now is that history has a circular character about it. Being it is circular the past is cautionary. There isn’t much that isn’t connected through time. As the saying goes those who ignore the past take the dirt nap first.
There are certain “leaps” in history that define an age. And the equation of those leaps almost without fail have a counter balance which is akin to each side of the equation trying to balance itself.
That dynamic is what you have to look for and take the past and analyze the consequences and their effect in totality.
The circular nature is like a push pull cycle.
I can certainly appreciate what factors are important when looking far into the past in regards to today, they teach and inform. The details matter, but so to do the pivotal leaps.
Speaking of great leaps, the one that concerns me is how the 5000 year Leap of liberty is once again facing a time of pivotal pushback in the cycle.
The interesting thing I got from Saker’s piece is the Russians, of all people, by it’s return to a Christian State, may well be the precursor for the other peoples populist nationalist uprising and rejection in the west of the Statists-Quo one world order totalitarian state that we are seeing happen right now.
How delicious is that, a former totalitarian collectivist tyranny state, the Soviet, ends up kick starting what could be the greatest revolution against the powers that be of the west, another great leap pivotal event of liberty and freedom from the slavery of the state.
By any means, it is only begun, that this war between the ruled and the rulers is in the very early stages in visible terms, but has been a long time in the brewing in hearts and minds.
Talk about a black swan, it’s a Godzilla size black swan. And like the transformational changes in Russia that took the west by total surprise, is it not too far a stretch to propose, the western nation states and it’s oligarchy are due to suffer the same fate?
If the Russian’s can, then why not the dirt people of the west?
After all, it happened on that bridge in 1775.
Who is to say it is not possible again in a circular history fashion?
I believe it is not only possible, but it has already begun, that it is in early stages where it is difficult to see it for what it is.
These things have a way of sneaking up on everyone, but in hindsight they look totally predictable. Unless you look at history with an eye to understanding it’s circular nature.
Certainly all the ingredients are there for a redux.
Sir: For what it is worth, while growing up Catholic, we said prayers for the conversion of Russia after Mass every Sunday. Now, I know a lot of folks here do not subscribe to religious views. THAT IS YOUR RIGHT! I am fine with that.
Even though I retired from the Roman Church due to its infiltration by syphilitic, degenerate, Masonic, Illuminati, Vatican II-Jesuit rat bastards, prayer does work. In God’s own time, He will set things right according to His will.
So, you have a former Godless, Communist nation transforming itself back into its roots which were based on Orthodox Christianity. And the secular leader of this nation is standing firm against queers, dykes, criminal banksters, and every sort of deviate and degenerate Western assault on his culture and nation. This is good.
I agree with you. It is a salient point, it is far more important than we in our time of the castigation and disruption of faith in anything good and moral, in particular true religious faith. Marx was very accurate when he said religion is the opiate of the people. The cultural marxist aka Fabian’s have striven more than in any other aspect of their ideology to destroy peoples faith, and not just in religion. It is one thing a lot of people are trying to figure out even if they don’t understand, it has to do with human nature, people, especially dirt people like to hold faith in things, ideas, principles, traditions, guns, jobs, family, you understand right?
What is at the heart of it is, how can you have faith in profound ideas, like liberty, freedom, self determination, and they are BIG ideas, larger than we know, as they are the primal roots of who we are as dirt people, so how does one have faith in those things, believe in them, if one does not believe in something larger and better than themselves? It comes round to faith, hearts & minds, in every instance.
The Christian religion, for the first time in human history, instead of making people go along with it’s tenets, it gave hope to people that there is a better way through personal responsibility, accountability, and ideals of human activity and behavior. Sure it preached brimstone and fire, but only as a touch stone and reference to self betterment and actualization of people and their good and bad characteristics.
It was revolutionary.
There is much, if not everything, connected between true Liberty and Christianity.
And this is strictly my own thinking, Jesus Christ was the greatest revolutionary who has ever lived. The guy took on the entire world almost single handed. He was a messiah in more ways than one. Name somebody who has changed the world more than Christ? The guy was the ultimate dirt person before he was anything. And it is the purview of the dirt people, and only the dirt people, who ever effect positive change in this world.
So you take all those things, and it is pretty clear, we dirt people are the target of everyone. We are robbed, extorted, of our wealth, because we are the only productive humans who actually create something with our labors, everyone else has gamed the the situation to free ride on that prosperity.
It is our consent everyone wants or wants to disappear depending on how our consent benefits them or threatens their power and or riches.
Either some part of humanity wants us eradicated, or enslaved. Somebody is always gaming us for profit or power.
Nobody is on our side, so it begs the question why are any of us on anybodies side who isn’t strictly a dirt person to begin with?
Christianity, not “the church” per say, but the idea and fundamentals of Christianity is on our side because it embodies and promotes the legitimacy of decent and provincial activity and behavior, as most dirt people tend towards, because all us dirt people really want is to be left alone. It is where we do our best, where we find our greatest strengths, were we are most productive and creative.
It is of the utmost criticality, the state, it’s actors, ideologies no matter their flavor, potentates, kings, oligarch’s what have you, the entire lot of them, strive to deny us dirt people if our self actualization, from realizing our true selfs, of self determining our lives, our property, the fruits of our labors, our primal right to defend ourselves, of individualism, of faith, and dignity of our liberty.
And that right there is the battle, the war going on.
We are more powerful than any or anything when we become manifest in our destiny, our lives, and our faiths. Nothing can stop us then, individually or as plurality. They can only kill us.
Under all the bullshit going down, underlying everything, is the requirement to keep us dirt people down, because if we rise up, we win. It is that simple.
Well said indeed!
Not sure what you mean by the 5000 year leap of liberty.
I am missing a bit of comprehension on this – 5000 years before today would be 2983 BC / BCE.
I thought it was an extra zero that should have been 500 years – Magna Carta in 1215 was 800 years ago.
I did Google 5000 year leap and found this – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Five_Thousand_Year_Leap
Is this iwhat you are referring to?
(In which case I still getget the meaning of the 5000 years leap).
Wendy, It is in reference to Skousen’s masterpiece theory on liberty, The 5000 Year Leap.
Skousen’s basic premise is for the first time in recorded human history, the dirt people figured out what liberty was and lived in liberty. But not only that, that in the history of America more people had liberty, than all the people combined on earth, in all of recorded history including the time of history of the USofA.
Skousen was a completely committed advocate for people to understand the history of how the 5000 Year Leap came about, he was so dedicated to that, even being destitute, he bought a suit, and a chalk board and went from town to town all across flyover nation, finding little garages or church function rooms, post notices all over and gave free lectures on his theory and history.
His books are very enlightening, he has a common man’s touch in his writings that make his work heart felt.
Wendy, here are a few books to read, I consider them very valuable in understanding who we are as dirt people, and our liberty. The first two are mind blowers. You have been lied to all your life. Revised history is insidious. The truth is way better than the fiction. Guarantee it. These first two are a must read if you want to understand the truth of us. Interestingly they are only a buck on Kindle:
The True History of the American Revolution
by Sydney George Fisher
Ben Comee – A Tale of Rogers’s Rangers, 1758-59
The 5000 Year Leap by Cleon Skousen
Can’t say what anyone else means, but 5,000 years is roughly the span of time during which sharp intellectuals, inevitably on the king’s dime one way or another, came up with intricate stories–they call them “arguments”– that reality is not what it is and that it’s critically important for you to recognize that your life is not your own…either to value or to live. The king’s forces took over for the few who didn’t swallow it but as it happened, almost everyone swallowed it in some form and do to this day.
As you well know CA, I have been hanging out with my command Sgt Major in the Ukraine. My location here has very little of the “Catholic” Church or religion. Very heavy Orthodox here. Despite my Norse and Scot heritage and more pagan then christian, I was drawn into a couple Orthodox churches (Easter, good Friday and such) and have had a few interesting conversations with those about my present area. Some of what I heard mirrors some of this article. I was perplexed by the local comments but after reading this article (you provided) twice carefully, I now understand more of what was told to me here. You can teach an old dog to sit, it is just that you must spend more time with him.
just heard from the CSM’s old friend G. who informed me you were visiting the CSM’s AO. Please give my best regards. Hope all is well and the arty has slowed down.
P.S. Bring home souvenirs. 🙂
How are things on the home front deep within the Northern Rockies? I replied to this particular blog just to see what has been happening. Unable to get out prior to yesterday. Interesting being in a location where the infrastructure and comms are not what we are accustomed to. I promised to bring back information back to CA. Not what I expected. The propaganda is interesting from this perspective. Some of the USA propaganda is accepted while others realize they are simply trading one potentate for another. It surprises me to find many realizing that the actual fight is over whether they get to keep their culture and heritage or whether they give into the Anglo-Judaic globalist bullshit. Those who are aware are maintaining their partisan leanings and pushing their own message. Wish we had the same kind of organization back home. Unable to get into my CSM’s actual AO so must observe that from a distance. I don’t have the clearance and chits for such. Moved our “vacation” into a neutral, well no such thing actually as sides are drawn and fairly visible when you get locals to talk. But like at home, the majority are simply wanting to be left alone and enjoy life, not wanting to participate either way. Mostly playing the tourist and attempting not to stand out. One must play the tourist or “be able to sing Dixie or Battle hymn of the Republic with equal enthusiasm depending on present company”. You “don’t wear the colors unless you are willing to fight for them and die for them”. Pretty clear cut on that issue. Though I went and purchased local clothes, a couple times I got called out as being an American “because of how I walked”. So we spent an afternoon watching how people walk. Sure enough we got it. Should be home in a couple more weeks. Unless I decide to stay. GRIN. Honey liquor or Mead is a common local drink where we are presently camped. Don’t want to get drunk on that as it gave me a nasty hangover. Keep the home fires burning. Cheers
Be safe Brother I will keep you prayer…Give me a shout when you get back…
The first strike of the match was on Lexington Grren. It fizzled. The second strike of the match was at the North Bridge in Concord where 40% of the Redcoat officers fell in the first volley because of Marksmanship. The third strike of the match occurred at a little known place called Merriam’s Corner where at least four companies of Militia ambushed the Redcoat column. That third strike of the match stayed lit for eight long years until the last Redcoats put out to sea from Yorktown.
Off topic….Bill O’Reilly and Fox are Done!
Who’s bill oreilly? And what’s faux news? 😉
Humans are stupid and gullible by nature, that’s why they love Faux!
My purpose in posting it is for the reason of acknowledging that this will be considered a major victory for the progressives. Love or loathe, he was a major figurehead of the right, regardless of his personal politics much less what one thought of him.
He’s been shut down…who’s on deck?
Because 1/2 of the masses watch conservative dis-information does not make it right, no matter how high their ratings. Just shows the IQ of it’s watchers is rock bottom.
Humans will continue to be low IQ groupies, and trying to raise their awareness or IQ is a lost cause, thousands of yrs of history will bear it out as fact. Religion and politics are solid examples of this.
Getting rid of shit news is still getting rid of shit news, what’s not to like?
Semper: Direct hit………
Who’s on deck?
It will be a woman, or some “ethnically diverse” talking head.
My bet on the latter.
Off Topic: A black muslim shot and killed 3 white men in Fresno yesterday.
It’s getting virtually no coverage from the msm. Actually he killed 4 white men. 1 he killed last week. Fresno COP calling it a random act.
Heard about that last night while at work and listening to KFI.
The enemy (‘Team ‘mo’) is definitely in the wire, with the
active collusion of religious 5th columnists (‘refugee
resettlement’, see Ann Corcoran’s fine work detailing this)
and the ptb that reside in ‘Mordor on the Potomac’ and in similar
swamps throughout America.
Yours in Daily Armed Liberty – Furthermore islam and it’s enablers/supporters MUST be destroyed!
Very informative article, and the first that I have seen that recognizes the divisions within Catholic thinking.
In The Roman Catholic Church, you genuflect, and cross yourself right to left. That is because a Roman audience understood that to genuflect was to be unable to use a sword on someone. Crossing was interpreted by watching in reverse: early “priests” stood before audiences instructing them.
In The Orthodox Church you bow before the altar, because you are bowing before royalty. (Jesus Christ was of the Royal House of David.) You cross yourself left to right because Jesus sits at the right hand of The Father.
The Orthodox have no problems telling you that their beliefs, ceremonies, and church buildings have not changed since the time of Christ. While trappings in an Orthodox Church may reflect Russian, Ukranian, Serbian, etc. areas, all of them are dome shaped with the Apostles on the lower areas of the dome and Jesus Christ at the center of the dome.
Roman Catholicism employs human reason in explaining the concept of faith, while Orthodoxy doesn’t reconcile human reason with faith.
The Roman Catholic doctrine evolves with change in time, and needs to fit in with prevailing circumstances, while Orthodoxy does not change it’s doctrine to fit with situational needs.
In holy matrimony, Roman Catholic divorce is not permitted under any circumstances, while for Orthodox, it may be permitted when adultery is committed.
Roman Catholics believe that human reason can prove the existence of God, while the Orthodox believe that God’s knowledge is planted in human nature.
Religion is an interesting journey, and Islam is not a religion.
“Islam is not a religion”, right answer. That is why my answer to anything mooslim related is ▄︻̷̿┻̿═━一.
I’ve sometimes wondered if the palpable fear of modern Russia has it’s roots in the subconscious fear of ancient men from the East. Going back to at least the Huns and possibly as far back as the Persians. Subsequent centuries of dealing with Mongols, Cossacks, Turks, etc. may have simply ingrained it into the psyche of Western man.
A thoroughly enjoyable read.
I do believe that “Jesus” took to task, the religious leaders of his day, which would have been those in positions of religious power, in full control of the temple, the narrative, if you will, and the money. “Vipers” I believe, was His assessment. Not much has changed. The same viperous spirit has control of the “temple”, the narrative, and the money.
It is antithetical to believe that “Jesus” established a “church.” Jesus said “do what Moseh told you, and seek The Father”, meaning God…not a man. No matter what the gospels relate, I do not believe 50+ year old accounts of His time on earth, subject to memory in some cases, (Matthew) the retelling of others’ memory (Luke) and questionable translations from Hebrew and/or Aramaic, to Greek to Latin, to old English to new English, based upon ignorance, in the best case, and intent in the worst, is the surest foundation upon which to base one’s spiritual journey.
Saker fills in a few blanks. It makes sense the vipers would both fear and loathe any version which diminishes the viper, regardless of whether Orthodoxy is a more believable system of religious practice.
I think he pegged it…we live in a post-Christian age. “The Church” is ruled by vipers, in the case of Rome, and by spiritual eunuchs in the case of the evangelicals. True to form, in both politics and religion, humankind has, by and large, handed off personal responsibilities to the lowest common denominators. I do not believe the ‘I AM’ is found among them.
The PTB can’t get a Revolution or Civil War unless they uproot the foundations – underpinnings of that culture / Nation / people et al etc.
The target & goal of “Report From Iron Mountain”
( http://www.stopthecrime.net/3TR-IRONMOUNTAIN_1_.pdf )
was Christianity. It’s objective was clear & written on 1967. The evidence fits & matches the context. MAJ12 – Council of 9 – The Report of the Special Study Group – Deep Stink Tank stuff et al etc. the evidence is there & identified. We know the plan & what they want. There would have to be a big reason to destroy or attack Christianity. It’s not a casual or common occurrence. All it requires is some historical research, understanding Rome, The Vatican / Jesuit’s / Zionism / Hegelian dialectic & you will pretty much nail most of it.
Plato had it right to begin with years before all the planetary drama & wars started. All roads lead to Rome Republic & Roman Empire.
Report From Iron Mountain
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