A Response To “American Vendée”

A Response
-to-
Z Man: American Vendée
http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=10311
-by-
SFC Steven M Barry USA RET

Although it has never happened in history, I understand the author’s enthusiasm for the American Myth of “the people” (whoever they are) rising up in rebellion against an oppressive government. But using the Vendée as an example is simply bad intellectual history.

Quotes by Z Man in italics followed by comment…

“The key insight of the Jacobins was to send representatives out into the smaller towns and cities to organize radicals and incite rebellion.”

The “radicals” [sic] referred to where largely Huguenots who, with the usual Protestant addiction to revolution, were only too happy to lay wreck to the Catholic society they infected. The Jacobins were also adept at finding and loosing upon French society pockets of the Albigensian heresy that had been ruthlessly suppressed by a formal Crusade in the 13th Century. (Heresies never die; they simply go underground to fester and become Secret Societies.)

“Many rural peasants welcomed the revolution as it meant some degree of freedom and the redistribution of lands seized from the Church and aristocracy.”

The “degree of freedom” imposed on “many rural peasants” by the Revolution was suffocating compared the the true liberties enjoyed by them under the Estates and Manors. The rural peasant saw exactly nothing of the “redistribution” of lands, and the properties “seized from the Church” and turned over to the Republic laid waste a far reaching and ancient infrastructure of charitable institutions (hospitals, orphanages, schools, etc.) that left the peasantry destitute. Those hereditary properties seized from the aristocracy were sold off to bureaucrats who ran them as businesses reducing the peasantry to penury.

The only peasants who “welcomed the revolution” were the criminal, the depraved, and heretics.

“The enraged populace took up arms and quickly formed a Catholic Army.”

That is not true.

And here, Oh! rebellious “the people” is where you must pay strict attention. “The enraged populace” did not take matters into their own hands. While it is true there was an initial uprising over the course of 36 hours that overwhelmed the sleepy garrisons of one small town a hand-full of villages, they immediately went to and demanded of the local Nobility and Aristocracy (or shamed them into it) that it was their duty to defend Altar and Throne and lead them against the depredations of the Revolutionaries. And the Nobility and Aristocracy who agreed made it very clear, in unambiguous terms, that the “enraged populace” appealing for counterrevolution was now under martial disciple and that nothing less than perfect obedience (upon the usual penalties) was demanded of them. It bears repetition and considerable emphasis… “The enraged populace” sought lawful authority to command and lead them in counterrevolution and accepted the discipline of martial order from their betters.

The “enraged populace” did not form “a Catholic Army.” The Nobles and Aristocracy formed and commanded the Catholic Army, the “enraged populace” manned it.

“[T]he Committee For Public Safety was limited only by its imagination (ff).”

The author seems to imply that the “revolt of the provincials” against the “cosmopolitan elite” of the East coast (we know who they are) should follow the example of the Committee For Public Safety against the Vendée. (If I am wrong in my reading of Z Man’s last couple paragraphs he should tell me how I misread him.) In other words the end justifies the means. Which is pure Leninism. Or, as I am fond of saying, “Liberty Movement” folks would have been welcomed as Comrades on the barricades of the Communist Revolution of 1848.

Civil War?

It is useless for the “Liberty Movement” (and other anarchists) to appeal the the Vendée as an example of “the people” resisting oppression. The Vendée fought and died defending Altar and Throne against the Freemasons, their Protestant allies, and other heretics. You know, those same delinquents who founded the United States.

The battle cries of the Vendée were, “Vive le roi! Vive les bons prêtres! A bas la République!” Battle cries – along with all their implications — that would cause “Liberty Folks” to recoil in horror. In other words, the Vendée violently resisted those very things the “Liberty Movement” stands for.

Further, the Vendée were a people. The US is a mongrel. The Vendée had a long and ancient history. The US is a myth. The Vendée was a country. The US is a wholly artificial construct. The Vendée had a culture. All the US has is advertising. And the Vendée had a Just Cause. All the “Liberty Movement” has is the damned “Revolution of ’76” – which delivered them unto where they are now.

There is a lot of talk these days about a civil war in the US. The definition of civil war is two domestic political powers contending by arms for control of the government. The Vendée was a civil war; Royalist and Catholic against the Revolutionaries. There are no two contending political powers in the US. Just two contending factions squabbling about their interpretations of the damned Constitution they both believe in. One faction having control of the damned thing, the other faction appealing to it.

No. There will be no civil war.

If you want to see what a civil war looks like study the Spanish Civil War. The Catholics called it “The Crusade.” Of course, the US, which supported the Communists and Anarchists, called it a fight for “Liberty.”

Final thought…

Don’t look to Catholic counterrevolution to inspire your revolutionary dreaminess. There is nothing there for you except “in signum cui contradicetur.”

S//

60 responses to “A Response To “American Vendée”

  1. Randall Flagg

    Bravo. Well said.

  2. “Z Man” certainly plays fast and loose with facts in his economic posts, so it would not surprise me to find that he does so elsewhere, though I am no student of the period in question.

    OP: In response to your post, he will insult you and make definitive statements that you are wrong, but will offer no evidence or references.

    • I’m going to make it my mission to remember you & your Bravo Sierra here you try to stir up.

      Gotcha you cowardly POS.

      You can go choke yourself on a Bag of Dicks BTW.

      dumpkaine (gravatar.dumpkaine.com) = SWRichmond on WRSA

      • dumpkaine

        I keep trying to post as swrichmond, but something interferes. Even when I change the name for the post, it reverts to another name.

        P.S. have fun continuing to drive a wedge between liberty advocates ( traditional conservatives and libertarians), serving whom exactly? And thanks also for confirming the mindless resort to insults and the dearth of relevant facts. Bravo Zulu. Thank goodness you have a (nother) mission. Please remember me.

      • Wow. That was an erudite and well reasoned response. I am impressed.

        “Bag of Dicks”? Careful now, your intellect is showing.

        For myself, I see nothing in SFC Barry’s post which is inconsistent with anything he has published in the last fifteen years or so. No, he doesn’t say or write the same things he did in 1994. Neither do I. Every man should, and not many men do, exercise the right to his own education.

        • Are you saying that a smart person can change his view of the world over time? That’s heretical right there.

          The older I get, the dumber I realize that I am.

          • The way I phrase it is, “I reserve the right to become more intelligent.”

            In other words, I started where the Liberty Folks are now, and then actually studied the subject. Having studied the subject thoroughly I rejected it altogether.

            S//

      • Cowardly? It is not I who comments anonymously.

        S//

  3. wendystringer48088

    Thank you for the detailed description of the history and your analysis of the American Vendée article. Sounds to me like a warning that what seems to be a just uprising / revolution can make things go from bad to worse.
    I guess people (like myself) are looking to find examples in history to try to understand recent and current events and predict what what be the best course of action for possible future events.
    Even if other people paint a picture saying that resistence is futile, I believe that men and women do have the right to defend themselves, and that includes deciding to fight to the death rather than submitting to be taken somewhere to be executed or starved to death.
    “The US is a mongrel… The US is a myth… The US is a wholly artificial construct… All the US has is advertising.”
    I do have to agree that looking at the U.S. today that seems pretty much to be the way you describe it. Especially with the amount of recent immigrants and what all aspects of the mainstream media and entertainment industry is pushing.
    “No. There will be no civil war.”
    Well, maybe not if we are referring to the dream of a bunch of pissed off dirt people suddenly rising up and coalescing.into an ad hoc army and kicking the bums out and restoring the Republic as originally intended. But then again…
    However, if you don’t mind me asking, what exactly shall we call it / how shall we refer to it if Matt Bracken is correct about his prediction for the violence and death toll of the breakdown of society / breakup of the former “United States” as being decribed by the product Rwanda times Bosnia?

    • dumpkaine

      If you want to understand current events read about interwar Germany. We will be forming Stutmabteilung and / or Freikorps units to fight the Communists sooner than you think. I don’t want it, but that’s where we’re headed. The choosing of sides is happening now. All that is needed is more economic hardship. People are fucking pissed off and becoming much more willing to embrace the chaos.

      It’s sad that certain elements are fomenting dissent between traditional religious conservatives and libertarians. Yes, I mean z man. Wonder who he is working for, eh?

      • Jimmy the Saint

        “We will be forming Stutmabteilung and / or Freikorps units to fight the Communists sooner than you think.”

        That’s really, really, really, really optimistic – thinking that the Right/traditional America will ever organize that much, that is.

    • I saw Rwanda first hand. What do you call it? “Liberty” and democracy taken to their final conclusions.

      Yugoslavia worked because it was an “oppressive tyranny.” Remove Yugoslavia and you have Bosnia.

      S//

  4. Am I wrong then in the understanding that the Vendee were fighting for their own right to self-determination? Maybe not in line with the dirt people of the time, but certainly in the same vein that my way of life, my right to choose my path and “freedom” from government overreach, whether theocratic or autocratic, is in itself the eternal struggle.

    I would posit that the deep state façade is in full effect, and the political parties are two sides of the same coin and they use that to continue the discord because it serves their purposes of control, which maybe speaks to your point.

    However, if what we have is not a civil war then what is it? “There are no two contending political powers in the US. Just two contending factions squabbling about their interpretations of the damned Constitution they both believe in. One faction having control of the damned thing, the other faction appealing to it”

    Isn’t it precisely the interpretation that drives the inevitable war to follow? Both sides are convinced it is their interpretation that’s correct. How could that not lead to a battle wherein the victor’s view becomes the default setting for the nation? Is it also not possible that from either of those groups a political power does rise that challenges not only .gov in general terms but everyone that does not believe as they do?

    We have plenty of internal enemies whose group seeks to make the US in their image and their affiliation with a political party is a matter of convenience not conviction. So, can it be based on racial lines? What about the struggle against islamic encroachment? Would that not satisfy?

    “If you want to see what a civil war looks like study the Spanish Civil War. The Catholics called it “The Crusade.” Of course, the US, which supported the Communists and Anarchists, called it a fight for “Liberty.”

    Is this not exactly what we have in the US now? Except maybe Catholics are that group encompassing everyone who is not a communist, an anarchist, or dare I say, a muslim? It’s probably much grayer and murkier than that, but you don’t think the lines are shifting to those sides? And that whatever is coming is going to look a lot like a civil war?

  5. Sticky Burr

    Jesus, you really are a tiresome bore, Sgt Barry. In your zeal to nitpick you overlook one thing, Zman is not exhorting people to look toward Catholic counterrevolutionaries. It is an ANALOGY, you dolt.

    • An “analogy” built on falsehood is as bogus as the original error.

      • Sticky Burr

        Name the falsehood.

        • Are you dyslexic? Read the article exposing these errors:
          “The key insight of the Jacobins was to send representatives out into the smaller towns and cities to organize radicals and incite rebellion.”
          “Many rural peasants welcomed the revolution as it meant some degree of freedom and the redistribution of lands seized from the Church and aristocracy.”
          “The enraged populace took up arms and quickly formed a Catholic Army.”

  6. Big point of contention for me:

    “…There are no two contending political powers in the US. Just two contending factions squabbling about their interpretations of the damned Constitution they both believe in. One faction having control of the damned thing, the other faction appealing to it….”

    The Cloud People do not believe in the Constitution, they only use it to control the Dirt People. The Dirt People will continue to try to honor the Constitution until they realize, en mass, that the rule of law is no more.

    Then, there will be blood.

    • Notarealperson

      Agreed. The Cloud people don’t believe in the constitution period, Do you hear any globalist/liberal/RINO even invoking the Constitution? No.

      Most of our elite don’t even see themselves as Americans but as citizens of the world. To them “nationalism” is a epithet and the “Constitution” as a obsolete article. And worse And view those who believe in the Constitution and Bill of Rights as threats to the establishment.

  7. Not civil war as in the past. There are too many factions, too many variables. The calculus and permutations are astounding. I can’t even begin to imagine how the scenarios will unfold and the constantly evolving alliances. Any references or lessons-learned in the past will be fodder. There will be no winners except for the dead. Eventually it will all end. I don’t know how long the duration or the end result. “This is how the world ends…not with a bang, but a whimper”.

  8. Typical moderate effort to shoot at allies deemed too far to the right rather than focusing on firing left. Add in an unhealthy dose of popish subservience and a desire to kneel and this is the result, regardless of the accuracy of the critiqued article or its applicability to the current mess (caused in no small part by the invasion of this nation by Roman Catholics who don’t understand or resent the rights of Englishmen).

    • Sticky Burr

      Riiight, it’s the Catholics fault. noting to do with letting in 80 million invaders since 1965. Come on, you’re a semi regular at Vox Days sit, aren’t you? you should know better than that.

      • its the Jew+Catholic alliance, then personified by the demoncrat party, that put over the 1965 Immigration Act. Aimed at liquidating first the Protestant majority, and then the White majority. MIssion 1 accomplished, and 2 by 2030.

        • Haxo,
          Since the Church signage never changed, it is understandable that non-Catholics might confuse the post-“Vatican 2” Novus Ordo (“New Order”) as Catholicism. The buildings and hierarchy have been occupied by faggots and revolutionaries, and anti-Popes. What passes as “Catholic” is too often only a simulacrum of the Faith, impostors.

          See the home page on my site and below the slide show, you will see the definitive, infallible, and unchangeable Magisterium (official teaching authority) on Judaism. You will immediately discern that there can be no truly Catholic alliance with Judaism.

          The Novus Ordo, quite unlike the Catholic Church, is born of the synagogue of Satan, is derivative of Judaism, and is submissive to Judaism, so indeed the Novus Ordo adherents are abject shabbos goyim. What you observe as an alliance is of the Novus Ordo and Judaism, nothing more. Like Protestants, the Novus Ordo “Catholics” are just neo-Pharisees seeking, like the Jews, to “be as gods” (Genesis 3:5), making up their own self-worshipping and convenient religion.

      • You must be relatively new there. I’ve been there since the WND days many years ago. And yes, the Catholics played a huge role in creating the current mess. The overwhelming majority of the post 1965 invaders are Catholics-aided and abetted by the RCC leadership. Before that, Catholics were invading in such numbers that we effectively banned immigration in the 1920s. Irish, Poles, and Italians significantly changed our nation and the relationship between the people and the govt… and not for the better. They changed it to an authoritarian system with which they were more comfortable. And far too many of them are still trying to push more statism on us today, including through supporting the continued invasion of their leftist coreligionists. If Catholics want their throne and altar paradigm they are welcome to it… in their own countries, not mine. In America, we have a place for Catholics and that place is called Maryland.

  9. People with kids and a mortgage don’t rise up. The leaders of any resistance will come from criminal organizations or veterans with extensive combat experience. The attempt on De Gaulle and the conflict in Beirut come to mind. Who is daring enough on a daily basis? Who has already crossed that line?

    • Notarealperson

      They do rise up if they have lost everything due to a economic collapse. Right now they still have skin in the game and aren’t about to do anything other than vote.

      But take away their 401K’s, job and home. And you’ll have people out for blood. This is what freaked out Wall Street in 2007 and why they went to Congress to keep the bubble machine going with TARP.

      This is why they keep making the stock market go higher to keep the middle-class and upper middle-class along with all the state retirees happy and so they don’t turn on the government.

      The criminals and veterans aren’t into leading squat. The criminals are predatory scum and a threat to everyone. You really want a coked up peckerwood or Aryan Nation type to lead you?

      Veterans are a mixed bag. When things go pear shaped some will join the government for a fat paycheck and others will do as their values dictate. Others will want nothing to do with a rebellion.

      • As it’s said, follow the money…

        The corporate guy, even the one that was a grunt or more, isn’t inclined to “go to war” while he’s working a job, paying the mortgage and trying to follow the American Way.

        As Not points out, strip that all away and his aversion to rocking the boat not only goes away, he’s probably pissed and wanting to sink the damned boat.

        Another group to be aware of are those who’ve moved the kids on and now we in between in life. They’re engaged in the shit show and see the worthless poltroons we refer to as our political leadership destroying their country but have more freedom of action and fewer depending on them from day to day.

        This thing will come crashing down. One way or another. Then, the circus will really begin.

  10. Grenadier1

    Maybe the Pope and his army will save us.

  11. May all God’s blessings be upon you, Sgt. Barry, for such wholesome truth on the Feast of the Ascension and as we pray for the Social Reign of Christ the King.

  12. The Balkans, Argentina, & current Venezuela should be the examples to look at for DieVerse City fights, not past examples of 100IQ average white people. The best way to win the civil war would be if the power was cut off to DieVerse Cities in the wintertime right before the beginning of the month, the Free Stuff Army would annihilate all those who believed in equality for us. Without foodstamps they will eat leftists.

  13. Thank you SFC Barry. Good critical thinking imho.

  14. Contention points:

    Men in dresses cornholing kids penalty free.

    Men in dresses electing a fucking socialist as their leader. I liked the waffenSS guy better, at least he’d done something.

    Men in dresses saying they are the only path to Christ.

    Got a lot of backyard to clean up, then maybe we’ll chat. Until then Henry the 8th I am.

    • Weak dodge. You evade the subject at hand. Even more amusing, you defer discussion until men are impeccable, sinless.

      As I read history and the news, Protestants, Jews, Satanists, and men and womyn in uniforms have done more than their share of sodomizing and raping and murdering children.

      We Catholics have suffered at least two dozen anti-Popes since Jesus Christ founded His one Church (Matthew 16:19 & 18:18), one Church to govern (Matthew 16:19 & 18:18), teach (Matthew 28:19-20), and sanctify (Matthew 28:18-19; John 20:23), one church with one doctrine (John 17:11, 21-23) that cannot be changed by any number of carping outsiders, anti-Popes or “Councils” called by anti-Popes. Bergoglio is manifestly* not a Catholic (socialism and homosexualism are the antithesis of Catholic morals and doctrine), so he certainly cannot be the earthly head of the Catholic Church.

      *manifestly, not formally, because it takes a genuine Pope or a genuine Council to formally judge and depose even an anti-Pope.

      • I’m not following Joel Osteen anywhere, either.
        And your problems could be solved the same as mine, a strong will and a steady aim.
        So wait for your “real” pope to depose your fake one, and tell me more about these dodges and waiting I’m performing. While your are waiting and dodging.

    • You are protesting that the Church now looks like Protestantism and everything that vomited out of it.

      “Henry the 8th I am.”

      I agree you are.

      S//

  15. what exactly shall we call it / how shall we refer to it if Matt Bracken is correct about his prediction for the violence and death toll of the breakdown of society / breakup of the former “United States” as being decribed by the product Rwanda times Bosnia?

    There are several nations within the US. There are the Southrons, of the Redneck, Hillbilly, Texan and Peckerwood persuasions, Yankees, of New England, Midwestern and Western types, Mormons, Chasidis, Nation of Islam, Okies, Mossbacks, the various native nations, etc.

    The problem is we’re all mixed together. So when the shooting starts it will be Bosia, not even Beirut, certainly not the Vendee or Gettysburg.

    • Good points.

      Some predict civil war, others predict race war. I think it will be a race civil war, with pro-white whites on 1 side and everyone else on the other, with anti-white whites (and (((whites)))) trying to be in charge. Although the “other” will probably fight each other at least as much as the pro-white side.

  16. A most superb response to Z Man with reasoned, researched and coherent thought. Well done, Sir.

  17. Grenadier1

    The truth lies firmly in betwixt.
    The people of the Vendee were not fighting to oppose the revolution, but nor were they fighting to reinstall the system of hereditary nobility. They didnt reach their limit of acceptance until three years after the revolution started. They accepted the removal of the nobility and even the state control of their churches. What they were not willing to accept was the prohibition of public worship. The revolution began in 1790, the Vendee did not openly go into arms until 1793. After the ban on public worship and closing of the public churches. Nobility that remained had their own private priests and chapels. The peasant had none of that so they went to war.

    In March of 93 when they massacred the garrison at Machecoul the revolting army did indeed ask their local nobles to lead them, however by May they had already filled their ranks with all levels of leadership drawn from their own social strata. This can be read as Sgt Barry has, as an appeal to “their betters” but thats a deceptive way of putting it. The
    nobles from this area were very close to the people. They were part of them and were quite provincial. They might be hereditary in their position but they had a belief in a duty and responsibility to the people and their society.
    When asked to lead La Rochejaquelein, who was only 20 years old, said: “I will show myself worthy. If I advance follow me; if I flinch, cut me down: if I fall avenge me.” I dont see that as being representative of a man who believes that he should be leading and in charge because he is better simply by his being. I see that as a man who understands that his birth has provided him resources and abilities that normal men did not have access to, and that entailed that he had a responsibility not to squander or take those for granted. Maybe its semantics but I see those as two different points of view.

    I think its disingenuous to look at the revolt as purely a reaction to the ideals of the Jacobins but nor was it a reaction to the breakdown of the noble order. It was primarily a reaction to the destruction of the religious structure of their society. I think had the King been in power and sent his troops into the region to destroy the churches and remove the priests he would have seen the exact same reaction and he would have received the same treatment he got from the Parisian mob.

    The two revolutions are great studies in diverging trains of thought. They began with the same ideals but were carried out in far different manners. Its why we have to be very careful what we unleash.

    • Same ideas. Same consequences. “Diverging trains of thought?” Really? If I were you I would not publicly display a public education.

      Explain why a Catholic King would send troops to destroy churches and “remove” (you mean murder) priests.

      S//

  18. Honestly I know zero about this stuff, nor do I care, isn’t it wise to read the tea leaves, or the bones, to determine direction.

    Both articles are well done, disagreement is what makes this site, this nation awesome.

    DW

  19. Grenadier1

    One other thing to add. I find it ironic that Sgt Barry uses the following.

    “The Jacobins were also adept at finding and loosing upon French society pockets of the Albigensian heresy that had been ruthlessly suppressed by a formal Crusade in the 13th Century. (Heresies never die; they simply go underground to fester and become Secret Societies.)”

    It was during this Albigensian crusade, to scourge the Languedoc region of the “heresy” of Catharism, that the phrase “kill them all, God will know his own” came about. The Catholic crusaders destroyed the town of Beziers and massacred everyone within, Catholic and Cathar alike.
    I guess the Jacobins did indeed loose pockets of the heresy on the Vendee when they sent the Infernal columns to kill all the men women and children. They were simply paying the Catholics back in kind. Just didnt work out for the Catholics that time around.

  20. Randolph -good riddance of the muslims- Scott

    ” There are no two contending political powers in the US. Just two contending factions squabbling about their interpretations of the damned Constitution they both believe in.”

    This is not an accurate description at all. The Left/Progressives/Democrats believes only in free speech if the like what is being said. The Left/Progressives/Democrats believe in civil rights but only to certain groups. The Left/Progressives/Democrats want to take away our firearms and dismantle the our 2nd Amendment right.

    This list could go on forever but the fact is the Left/Progressives/Democrats believe on what they want out of the U.S. Constitution. There is NO alternative translation. The document was written in plain and simple language.

    These: ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿’̿’\̵͇̿̿\з= ( ▀ ͜͞ʖ▀) =ε/̵͇̿̿/’̿’̿ ̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ̿̿ ▄︻̷̿┻̿═━一 in the hands of the citizenry protect the !st Amendment – Our right to free speech and the rest of the USC as well.

    • The Dick Act of 1903 trumps 2A. Constitutionally. Don’t bitch at me about it. Take it up with your “representative.”

      “Free speech” is very close to silencing dissent. How has that “right” worked out for you?

      S//

  21. Steve
    I realize that schiziming became a protestant sport and for little more cause than” I don’t like how you read”.
    However the western church kicked of this in good style when the east and west failed to make amends due to pride on both sides in 1054. The western church continued in its sin and pride causing further schisms of the reformers.
    The reformers that had good intentions but failed to look into history and correct the course that they took, much like the current crop of churches failing to learn from history.
    May be we should make efforts to mend those fences and bring all christians to heel/heal under one creed, One God, One church.

  22. anotherusualsuspect

    For another telling of the tale, check Barnhardt.biz for a detailed presentation of the events. Another alternative, simply click on the links…. Barnhardt Vendee Presentation PART 1, Barnhardt Vendee Presentation PART 2, Barnhardt Vendee Presenataion PART 3. Barnhardt states, “This presentation has only gotten more relevant and more frightening over the past four years.” You will be well informed.

    • anotherusualsuspect

      Barnhardt comments in an introduction on her site further, ” I discuss the fast-approaching Civil War in the former U.S., and that just as the French Freemasonic Republic used mercenaries (violent convicts released from prisons and some Germans and Swiss) to terrorize and genocide French peasants that refused to capitulate to the Revolution, so too will the satanic oligarchy in the former U.S. use black gang-bangers (ahem, BlackLivesMatter anyone?), Latin American drug gangsters (dissolving of the Mexican border) and… wait for it… MUSLOIDS, as their proxy armies/mercenaries against civilians and THE CHURCH. The musloids are the primary mercenary army that the same wretched globalist cabal has marched into and turned loose on Europe, with the wretched Antipope, Jorge Bergoglio, its number-one propagandist.”

      • anotherusualsuspect

        One additional link, Barnhardt Vendee Presentation PART 4.

      • The poor woman Barnhardt attempts to press the Vendée into the Americanism (defined by Pope Leo III as an heresy) mold. The more she tries the more absurd she she sounds.

        There have been many anti-popes. They are uninteresting. The horror is that Bergoglio really is the Pope. It’s not like we weren’t warned about these things.

        S//

  23. The Usual Suspect

    ” We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences
    of evading reality ” Ann Ryand

    • “Ayn Rand” (if I mention her real name, or detail her history, I will be accused of “anti-Semitism”) claimed to be an Aristotelian. Her grasp of Aristotelean philosophy left huge gaps in bubblegum wrappers — but her mutilations of it were perfectly suited to Hollywood screenwriting which describes “Objectivism” which is no such thing. Her mangling of the Principle of Identity leaves her in the gutter and Libertarians who parrot her hopeless of correction.

      Yes. I’ve read entire corpus of her work. When I was finished I spit on it and cast it into the flames.

      S//

  24. The USA”conflict” will be waged between the haves and have nots.Politics,ideology,religion,skin color and sexual preference all go straight into the shitter when you don’t have food,water,shelter or security.The luxury of debate,opinions and opposing views disappears when you are eating your neighbors dog,rats or grass soup.People with nothing do not discuss politics and philosophy.They discuss how they are going to kill you and take your shit. Rage against the injustice and corruption. In the end it comes down to you as an individual willing to be a stone cold killer. The rest is bullshit.