Codevilla: The Cold Civil War

H/t to Maggie’s Farm for another quality essay from Professor Codevilla.

Sadly, the Left is dead set (heh) on forcing all into its template.

And the Elites are only too happy to have their lessers subjugated.


What always happens when large numbers of out-thinkers conclude that there is no other way.

Keep working on your local accountability folders.

The tyrants-in-training are not going to stop on their own

28 responses to “Codevilla: The Cold Civil War

  1. Federalism is dead, and Lincoln is the guy who killed it. How the author can discuss federalism and Lincoln in a positive way in the same article makes me want to puke and gives me grave doubts about the remainder of the content. Absolutely incredible.

    Lincoln’s election was the proximate cause of the hot war. Lincoln didn’t want his “legacy” to be the guy whose election caused the breakup of the USA so naturally he invaded a sovereign Nation, destroying forever the concept of federalism and killing Hundreds of thousands of subjects.

    All politics is violence.


      True. Well-meaning intellectuals like Mr. Codevilla should have the intellect and the discernment to realize that their way of dealing with this divide is not working. It’s over. Government and Progressive-Marxist hell is almost upon us. Actually. it has been upon us for many, many years.
      We all know that while history may not repeat itself, it does rhyme(H/T to Mark Twain). The well-off elite intellectuals of the Paris Salons during the Enlightenment were discussing the same things as Robert Gore and Mr. Codevilla until the day the Jacobin mobs pulled them out of their mansions and introduced them to the National Razor.
      I have to go now, I have a date with a Finnish Moisin-Nagant and some other needful tasks. Bleib ubrig, my friends.

    • You assume the question, that the South could declare itself a sovereign nation. Without a clear statement that that was legal in the founding documents, it is retarded to think it would be. Governments don’t just let tax revenues walk off.

      • Virginia specified on its ratification document that it reserved the right to quit the union if it found the union detrimental. Virginia was accepted into the union with that stipulation, so Virginia’s secession was legal. Lincoln’s invasion of Virginia was illegal.

        You should read more.

        “We, the delegates of the people of Virginia, duly elected in pursuance of a recommendation from the General Assembly, and now met in Convention, having fully and freely investigated and discussed the proceeding of the federal Convention, and being prepared, as well as the most mature deliberation hath enabled us, to decide thereon, Do, in the name and in behalf of the people of Virginia, declare and make known, that the powers granted under the Constitution, being derived from the people of the United States, be resumed by them whensoever the same shah be perverted to their injury or oppression, and that every power, not granted thereby, remains with them, and at their will; that, therefore, no right, of any denomination, can be cancelled, abridged, restrained, or modified, by the Congress, by the Senate or House of Representatives, acting in any capacity, by the President, or any department or officer of the United States, except in those instances in which power is given by the Constitution for those purposes; and that, among other essential rights, the liberty of conscience and of the press cannot be cancelled, abridged, restrained, or modified, by any authority of the United States.”

      • Of course the south could declare itself a sovereign nation. The founders had just fought a war for their right to secede from England, and they were not about to deny themselves the ability to exercise that right in the future. Here are some of their statements in support of secession.

        “If any state in the Union will declare that it prefers separation…
        to a continuance in union… I have no hesitation in saying,
        ‘let us separate.’ ” – Thomas Jefferson

        “Each State, in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as a sovereign body, independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act. In this relation, then, the new Constitution will, if established, be a FEDERAL, and not a NATIONAL constitution.” -James Madison, Federalist No. 3

        At the Constitutional Convention, a proposal was made to allow the Federal Government to suppress a seceding state, but that proposal was rejected after James Madison said… “A Union of the States containing such an ingredient seemed to provide for its own destruction. The use of force against a State, would look more like a declaration of war, than an infliction of punishment, and would probably be considered by the party attacked as a dissolution of all previous compacts by which it might be bound.”

        You are right there is no “clear statement that that was legal in the founding document”. But there is also nothing in the Constitution that prohibits secession. There is however the tenth amendment which states:
        “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.”

        The power to prevent a state from seceding is not delegated to the federal government in the Constitution, it being specifically rejected at the convention. Nor does it prohibit states from seceding. That means that the power to secede is clearly reserved to the states or to the the people.
        That means that the south did in fact legally secede, and the north did in fact wage a war of conquest against them. Considering that there is no basis in U.S. law to deny the right of secession it is as you say “retarded to think it would be” illegal to secede.

    • thesouthwasrght

      Good to see someone gets it. Couldn’t agree more.

  2. Costco/Sam’s club and range memberships….

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  4. George True

    This was not one of Mr Codavila’s better articles. He does a decent job of pointing out some universal truths, the main one being that people must not try to force their values on others. But his argument runs off the rails in several areas.

    First, individual cities cannot be allowed to declare themselves ‘sanctuary cities’ because the influx and harboring of unchecked numbers of illegal aliens harms all of us. Illegals as a group use up hundreds of billions of dollars in social services each year. And the ones who do work take jobs away from Americans.

    Second, our rulers are determined to import Islam into America until America is no longer White or Christian. They seek to replace us. This is genocide, plain and simple. It is an existential threat. We cannot let it happen, but our rulers have no intention of stopping.

    Massive unchecked illegal immigration and the deliberate importing of a malevolent alien culture (Islam) into our midst are the work of the left. The left aims to force all of their depraved values upon all of us, and give our countey away to foreign interlopers in the bargain. The left will never stop, and thus they will soonet or later have to BE stopped. And so the cold civil war will go hot. Sorry, Angelo. We didn’t ask for any of it.

  5. what amazes me is all the gastrointestinal wind about the left and the right, but no one speaks of the 800 lb gorilla in every room. the murkin pooLICE state that has grown-up around them that infects and infests all of society.

    Worth County, Georgia: The sheriff is being sued by families of students who were subjected to a school-wide pat-down. Some students complained about inappropriate touching of breasts and genital areas.
    New York, New York: An officer was arrested for larceny and forgery for trying to take out a $22,000 loan from the pension fund.
    Fort Pierce, Florida: Two officers were fired for rules violations during an officer-involved shooting. One of the officers alleges ethical lapses in the department’s crime reporting.
    Adairsville, Georgia: An officer was arrested for assaulting his wife and holding her against her will.
    Oklahoma City, Oklahoma: An officer was charged with domestic abuse in the presence of a child as well as domestic assault and battery with a deadly weapon.
    Milwaukee County, Wisconsin: The County was ordered to pay a now-former inmate who was repeatedly raped and forced to give birth while shackled during her stay in the county jail $6,700,000.
    Volusia County, Florida: A deputy was suspended one month for causing a four-car-collision in December. He was driving 81mph while responding to a non-emergency call without activating his lights or siren.

    the cops are EVERYONE’S worst enemy.

    get rid of the cops… the politicians and commies will run for their lives.

    • Agreed

    • “but no one speaks of the 800 lb gorilla in every room. the murkin pooLICE state that has grown-up around them that infects and infests all of society.”

      “the cops are EVERYONE’S worst enemy.”

      Fucking A Right – All most want to do (especially the “Right”) is support and parade their own enslavement so that they look good to the neighbors.

    • NorthGunner

      And that ‘800 pound gorilla’ has been running roughshod over people since the ‘badged orcs’ in the form of Washington and Hamilton’s enforcers put down the Whiskey Rebellion..Lincoln’s ‘badged orcs’ (especially those genocidal ratbastard shitweasels Sherman and Sherridan) invaded and raped and plundered the South and America was occupied since 1913 by a foreign force via the ‘federal reserve act/income tax scam’.

      The America that Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, RIchard Henry Lee and Thomas Paine envisioned and worked for has been abducted and not seen since that coup that Hamilton and his ‘founding lawers/banksters’ successfully achieved via the ‘constitution’ (remember, all that was supposed to be accomplished was a tweaking/revision of the ‘articles of confederation’; not the wholesale expulsion and replacement to give Hamilton and his backers BOTH the power of the purse and the sword..especially TAXATION).
      The ‘adoption’ of the ‘constitution’ was and is nothing more than a complete undoing of the Declaration of Independence..all it did was to trade the tyranny of King George for the tyranny of Washington and Hamilton and the rest of the nascent homegrown parasite class. The fact that it was conceived and worked on in secret without ANY outside inspection or critical review allowed prior to it’s being pushed on folks should tell exactly of it’s real nature.

      To me as an anarchist, the AofC is ‘too much government’ but the adoption of the ‘constitution’ went totally overboard (I DON’T accept or acknowledge it’s legitimacy or any obligation to it whatsoever…I WASN’T asked to inspect it and critically review whether or not it has any value or benefit to me).
      Read both Hologram of Liberty or Lysander Spooner or the Antifederalist Papers for more on this.

      As such I don’t accept it on it’s face in any fashion any more than I would accept that ‘Christmas is better with Santa Claus than without Santa Claus’…the belief in ‘gov/authority’ has NO basis in reality and statism is really nothing more than another religious this case it’s the most dangerous superstition known (outside of the statism known as ‘islam’).

      Codrea is a good man. Unfortunately he hasn’t yet come to understand the contradictions and insanity that ‘gov worship’ comprise that continue to exist between his own ears. The biggest contradiction is that ‘a ruling class is needed’ (via the ‘constitution’ or any other ‘magic document promoted via quasi-religious activity [politics] by a parasite class’) and that the ruling class bestows upon a set of individuals (‘law enforcement’) rights and powers that they as individuals NEVER possessed before and don’t possess matter what the parasite class intones to the contrary!

      The parasites and their enforcers are part and parcel of the same organism.

      Enough of the worthless ‘parchment worship’ of the ‘constitution!
      And may the parasite class and their remoras and especially their enforcement drones FOAD!

      Yours in Daily Armed Liberty via anarchy!

    • Yea fuck the police, why just yesterday I saw one of those useless pole smokers lock up the wheels on his black and white, jump from the driver’s seat ad run as fast as SHE could into the street.

      All because a little old lady was crossing the street in a very busy intersection. I thought his old broad deserves the ass wooping she’s about to receive.

      Imagine my disappointment when the Female cop didn’t stomp the old ladies ass into a French fry, but firmly took her arm and escorted her across he intersection, in a safe and courteous manner.

      Like you knuckleheads I was really really upset that this old lady didn’t get what she had coming. This officer needs to retrain on the symptoms and signs of an X ambush, from this clearly hanious blue haired ex con.

      I actually thought I saw this young female cop smile after her hanious crimes against the people.

      After all what kind of silly ass shitbag cop does these kinds of deeds.

      So yea fuck the police. Tfat, are these two gents part of your island defense battalion?up their in Canada.

      Big D
      Little irk.

  6. The article left me unconvinced of it’s salient point

  7. “Today, states and cities ruled by the Left are seizing disproportionate influence in national politics by counting the votes of non-citizens. California issued drivers’ licenses—de facto voter registration—to a million illegals. Countless localities, such as New York City, Detroit, and Florida’s Broward County, do similar things. A few million votes here and there add up to a wall protecting today’s ruling class as it imposes itself on the rest of the country. Because this fraud so threatens the body politic’s integrity, a federal law requiring positive proof of citizenship for voting in federal elections is a sine qua non of continued national cohesion.”
    The left is importing their votes like a poker player importing a few Aces into their hand from under the table. Such vermin deserved the lead in the chest they so often received.

  8. Alfred E. Neuman

    Reblogged this on FOR GOD AND COUNTRY.

  9. So the Left is cheating, and our answer should be to try even harder to play by the rules.

    The article was somewhat interesting in its analysis of what is needed to maintain peace, but the fact that virtually no one involved is interested in doing that makes me wonder what the author thought he’d accomplish.

    • Camacho2016


      Freedom cannot simply be defended. Freedom requires each man to give some offense. The founders had to give OFFENSE to the King, to his property, and his people. Nothing less will be required of us.

  10. Camacho2016

    I remember last year an election related story talking about “the Democrats’ ground game.”

    Nothing says, “Democrats ground game” like mass graves. Shovel Ready! (Sure, you might expect a backhoe to be used. But this would deprive the zeks the joy of work, the miracle worker!)

    C’mon scrot. You know I’m right.

  11. Take a deep breath; Exhale…Consider the possibility that you are not the Hero in some Manga and that there is a world outside your Mom’s basement

  12. But that Sex-Bots are a near reality

  13. Interesting essay and, as usual, the writing is very good. However…

    (RE his summoning Lincoln) I disagree with his assessment of what conflict “loomed for 30 years” prior to the outbreak of war. That was going on much longer, even before (and during) the ratification process. It is a half-truth, in that one was to impose its view on another – that imposition was not a 2-way insistence. This condition continued, along with the tangible southern fear that the northern states would usurp power via tariffs & crafting a constitution in a way to hold sway in most cases over any peoples (particularly those with less-than-gilded tongues) or that they regarded as lesser.

    The southern states did not attempt to impose their view; simply wanting to be left alone does not constitute an imposition. Words matter. Standing around & filing a long list of grievances didn’t seem to count for much against a US president who was literally willing to go to any end (even if it resulted in mutual annihilation) to see his goal. Again, words matter & Lincoln’s are on the record. Unless someone wants to bring forth Lincoln’s sanction of ethnic cleansing in the border regions of the Mississippi River or discuss his refusal to talk cessation of war terms under other-than unconditional surrender they’d best stay at home using him in their examples because neither of those is the politics of persuasion.

    Thanks for the read. 🙂

  14. wendystringer48088

    I know not everyone agrees with everything people are doing, but I do think it is important for people to continue to do something. Whether practicing markmanship, physical training, working togeether with other people in various circumstances, etc…
    Or in my case today being with others discussing common interests and concerns and out in public for a few hours making a statement so that the other side doesn’t always have 100% of the narriative.
    This is my (non-professional) After Action Report about the Anti-Sharia march in Lansing, Michigan today:
    TL/DR version: Nothing bad happened. It was a lot of fun meeting and talking to and being with like minded people. And the police did a fine job keeping order and protecting the people in the march from the idiots on the other side.

  15. Jimmy the Saint

    “So the Left is cheating, and our answer should be to try even harder to play by the rules. ”

    That’s always been the Right’s strategy: “win if all else fails; lose if we have to; but, by all means demonstrate good manners, don’t stoop to our enemy’s level, and follow the rules scrupulously.” Surprisingly, not that effective.

  16. wendystringer48088

    Pics (taken by someone other than me) of one of the OpFor here: and here:
    That’s an interesting piece of wood he has for a flag pole he is holding. I think he came prepared to play. So I think that is why he has his face covered, is wearing dark glasses and has his hood up on a hot day.
    Glad it didn’t come to that, because if he used that stick as a weapon with the intent to hurt someone, he may have gotten a response he or the others around him wasn’t prepared for.
    (Referring to: “Weapons Usage: The False Lure of Symmetry” by Weaponsman (RIP)).