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WaPo: Gunman fires on Alexandria park during GOP baseball practice; lawmaker Scalise among wounded


CBS Detroit: “We Were Sitting Ducks”:

…“As we were standing here this morning, a gunman walked up to the fence line and just began to shoot. I was standing at home plate and he was in the third base line,” [Congressman Mike] Bishop [R-MI (8)] said. “He had a rifle that was clearly meant for the job of taking people out, multiple casualties, and he had several rounds and magazines that he kept unloading and reloading… The only reason why any of us walked out of this thing, by the grace of God, one of the folks here had a weapon to fire back and give us a moment to find cover. We were inside the backstop and if we didn’t have that cover by a brave person who stood up and took a shot themselves, we would not have gotten out of there and every one of us would have been hit — every single one of us,” said Bishop. “He was coming around the fence line and he was looking for all of us who had found cover in different spots. But if we didn’t have return fire right there, he would have come up to each one of us and shot us point-blank.”

Rep. Mark Walker says gunman targeted congressional baseball practice ‘to kill as many Republican members as possible’

Liberals Attack POTUS Trump After Scalise Shooting: “It Should Have Been His Dumb Ass to Get Popped”

VDARE: Shooter Said To Be White Male

Paging Professor Raoul X

188 responses to “Open Thread

  1. Shooter asked if dem or rep.

    Now that the targets are the elite, I expect “gun control” pdq.

    • This is much like aloha snackbar adherents asking potential victims to recite part of the coran as a “instant loyalty check” to determine go/no go at that stage.

  2. Apparently the shooter is in custody. It will be interesting to find out the shooter’s background. I’m thinking the pending Civil War just went “hot”.

  3. The Usual Suspect

    Interesting development , surprised it has not happened before.

  4. Why did it take this long?
    Just curious.
    Wondering if the shooter has some chronic medical conditions that will shortly end his life?
    So much for HPA.

  5. So what would be very interesting here is what would the outcome be of a successful attack? What I mean is, if some Repub members of Congress were killed, and resulting special elections in those districts placed demos in their seats? That would constitute open season. I am not advocating this, merely making the historical observation. That would nullify elections and complete our conversion into banana oligarchy. My somewhat limited study indicated murdering political opponents was quite the sport in interwar Germany, with mixed results but always with the above outcome being the motive.

  6. Centurion_Cornelius

    Hi-cap mags & plenty of ammo should be #1 on your list right now.

    Expect the Rs to cave on bans of all sorts.

    Hell–who knows, mebbe they will ban baseball, nyet?

  7. false flag.
    lynch-clinton was being brought to the forefront so another IMO false flag.
    Where was the security detail again?
    Targeted Repub’s? Cant beat em make em join you.
    Summer of dancing to ensue.

    • Jimmy the Saint

      So, the GOP ordered a hit on its own members, in an effort to blame it on the Left, to prevent Lynch-Clinton matters from being investigated?

      • Ya know, Jimmy, I really wouldn’t doubt that is exactly what happened. The lives of others is cheap to a politician.

    • Grey Ghost

      Well there was supposed to be a subcommittee hearing on the Hearing Protection Act (easing suppressor regs) in the House of Reps. Now a rifle attack on mostly Rep House members. 3-4 wounded on Trumps birthday. Fake prayers by demoncraps at their practice field.

      Guess what hearing in the House is NOT happening today!

      The only question now is how far the Rs will cave on “common sense” gun control. You can bet your bottom FRN that the Demoncraps (that would be shit spawn of demons) will bring up gun control and pound it for weeks. All you Trumpsters will finally be disappointed when he signs new gun control legislation, contrary to what he has said for the last 18 months.

      AJ staff attempting to contact Matt Bracken for time on his show today.

      I’m going to load rifle mags. Fuck these collectivists scumbags.

      Grey Ghost

  8. Randall Flagg

    Hmmm…. a scene from ‘Reservoir Dogs’ comes to mind…

    Mr. Pink: You kill anybody?
    Mr. White: A few cops.
    Mr. Pink: No real people?
    Mr. White: Just cops.

  9. Fifty shots fired and dummy managed to wing just one swamp creature in the hip? Sad.

    • Obviously new to firearms or sorely out of practice.
      If I don’t go 30 for 30 on my 7X11 Reduced Silhouette offhand at 50 yards behind my house, I look for a loose scope mount or something .
      7″X11″ @ 50 yards is bare minimum for home defense.
      Capital Police showed no fear though, unlike the Security at the Gay Bar in Florida last year.

      • Or intentional, pour encourager les autres

        • Then why get caught?
          Shooting from a peep hole in the trunk of a car was effective for a couple of months.
          The Kid was a better shot too.

          Odds on a copycat or reprisals with bolt action rifles from a distance?

        • (our encourager les autres), Excellent point.

      • That’s one of the reasons I’m thinking an AntiFas shooter. Hence my hasty opinionated conclusion, the pending Civil War just went “hot”.
        BUT—–I’m waiting for more solid reliable information coming from outside the DemSM, before I start selecting targets of my own.

      • Jimmy the Saint

        “Capital Police showed no fear though, unlike the Security at the Gay Bar in Florida last year.”

        This time *persons of quality* were being attacked. Can’t have that. Mundanes, even overly festive types, are expendable.

  10. To be sure it will be interesting and bear watching as this situation unfolds.

    I can see the “usual suspects” jump in with their “reasonable” gun control proposals and a number of the RINO’s following right along as they begin fearing for their worthless skins.

    A “Capital Zone” might get kicked around where proximity to the District of Criminals overrides State gun laws (VA) and claims the superior nature of the Central Government over lowly State Laws.

  11. 1968 revisited. Develop fear in conservatives so they are forced to the left.

  12. Shooter asked if they could recite any verses from the NDAA.

  13. From Brietbart…

    No doubt, the spin on this is about to reach epic proportions…

    Meanwhile, if you’re disgusted with your morning’s breakfast, read through the predictable comments at Huff-piss and hurl away…

    • Rep Mo Brooks from AL says he heard 50 shots or maybe even 100 shots.

      Caapitol Police (sec detail?) got off a few rounds in the exchange.

      If you listen to the reports they are making sound like the battle of Hue which I’m fcuking a certain it was not. Who are the possible bennies of this little soire?

      -2A haters will be on this like flies on shit (no disrespect for flies intended)

      -also may justify the CONgress critters desire for some real security now that things are turning sporty<—I think this could be a leading indicator of a sporty summer.

  14. So, I’m thinking; “Get that additional AR now?”

  15. You encourage the crazy to become more crazy by the both parties officials and elite and this is what you get. More of this will happen, this country is on a decline socially and between races and class until a crisis comes, then maybe it will reverse.
    At least politicians usually have armed guards around them, I had nothing on my way to work.

  16. My Deepest sympathies go out for these distinguished Patriotic gentlemen who uphold their solemn oaths to defend the People’s Rights, Freedoms, and Democracy. Without great men such as these, the Nation would soon break apart and dissolve into economic uncertainty, civil unrest, war, and misery…

    you watch, the old fat orange huckster will “have no choice”(wink wink) but to enact “common sense” gun laws to protect these traitorous vermin and his blew wall of protection. and the murkin betas, cucks, and zombies, will wave flags and parade in the streets in support of the Police State and their enslavement.


    • And if he doesn’t, the country issues a collective yawn, and you miss the call (for the two hundred fifty-ninth time since 11/9/16), will you eat your ration of shitburger and put a sock in it?

      Sh’yeah, when monkeys fly outta your butt.

      • shoo fly. shoo

        go back to sucking some green bray sack .
        that’s what you do best.

        you’re nothing but a fanboy of failed doctrine..

        now run along barry/// awaits his tongue grooming.

  17. First impression: freelance whacko, no egress plan, fed mass quantities of prog anti-Trump media finally was triggered.
    Now for the big question in my mind… if the guy is so crazy (as they will insist he is), how in Hades did he know where a mass quantity of legislators would be with minimal protection? THAT data point is important.

    Of note, take a look at the google maps view of that park. Howinhell does a guy with a longarm get that close when you have a security detail in place? It is a 75-100 foot buffer of parking lot or park environment, no dense trees. If the guy is a whacko, how does he get so close and avoid detection?

    NYT shows a map of Eugene Simpson Stadium Park as the scene of this event This places it about a mile north of the Alexandria George Washington Masonic monument, for those who want to see what the local terrain looks like.

    • The security detail was two capitol cops sitting yards away in a black SUV.
      Two guys aren’t going to do much to secure an entire baseball field in a park.

      But evidently they could return some decent fire, possibly only with handguns vs. a rifle. Not too shabby, and the reason this is 5-6 injured, vs. dozens killed.

      It’s never as fun when the range is hot in both directions.

    • Jimmy the Saint

      “Howinhell does a guy with a longarm get that close when you have a security detail in place? It is a 75-100 foot buffer of parking lot or park environment, no dense trees. If the guy is a whacko, how does he get so close and avoid detection? ”

      Reps don’t have anywhere near the level of protection that Executive Branch people do. It’s often just this side of non-existent.

  18. If it was a professional hit, the guy would not have asked the R or D question. He’d have known, and he’d have been wearing baseball practice togs. He’d have had a great position to mow them down in the dugout. Ironic that Scalise is the worst hit, and it’s only because he was there that they had 2 capitol cops at all. Otherwise, a dugout massacre. I’m guessing at this point an AK with unzeroed iron sights, and a shooter with no range time. If it had been somebody with a red-dot on an AR, and a guy with training, it would be ten dead and twenty wounded. I’m guessing target of opportunity for a left wing nut on the verge of going violent anyway, who just couldn’t pass up the golden opportunity.

    • A pro would have had a carbine with a red dot sight in a bat bag, and he would have snuck right onto the field to keep them penned inside the dugout and fenced areas. Or if he wanted more distance, he’d have found a perch with a view down into the dugout.

      • TheyCallMeRockStar22

        I live in Arlexandria. on the border of Arlington and Alexandria. This area is full of weirdos. Richard Spencer gets harassed by looney toon locals leaving his house nearby. Seriously, these people are like braindead zombies around here. The only person I like is a 70 year old former teacher who has dementia and picks up pine cones all day. Everyone knows they have these types of meetings and practices around here. I would bet money this guy walked right out of his house. Spur of the moment kind of thing. He was probably doing his morning fitness walk and asked them out of curiosity. Seeing a golden chance to strike he walked a lap, saw security gaps, and exploited them after returning home to acquire his un-zeroed 10-22. 10/22 because big guns are scary and heavy. Also, let it be known that this area is surrounded by our new imports, Muslims and Asians from all over, who are not very friend and entire areas are in their language. My guess is this guy is a white dude, and probably former security asset for DC. SPO, Cop, national guard. Pretty bold to have zero balls and start shooting. I would bet money this guy has some balls. This is clearly an attack meant to increase security around government members before they strike against Trump. If they are planning a July 4th timeline end to the Trump era, you would bet they are gonna start something a month early to get the security bugs for everyone worked out. A security detail doesn’t care if who they protect( one politician) or the next. Its all about HOW they do it. This is them prepping their hows. More money is being funded now for security details. And as mentioned by many others, it is POTUS’s birthday but I don’t think that was on purpose.

        • TheyCallMeRockStar22

          NVM. Dude was living out of his duffel bag at the YMCA. Maybe this is a little payback after the epic flop with Comey. The Democrats have given the Repubs a free pass to make money and screw us. They are probably ticked off at them for not pressing the objective harder. Starting to look like this is one of Bracken’s opening credits antagonists. I bet he has a clean toxicology and everything!

    • Don’t you mean 20 dead? My TV told me its a 100% casualty rate with an AR and you don’t even need medical pros to declare death.

      Or maybe that’s just in Connecticut…..

    • He was a confused white blue collar commie boomer who campaigned for millionaire Jew (((Bernie))) while holding up signs saying “tax the rich”.

    • and not to be overlooked is that Con-gressional Repubs (who supposedly support the 2nd Amendment) not one of them even had a 9mm handgun in their baseball bag.
      I would have, and I’m just a peasant from the dirt people class. Think DC lives in a bubble???? sheesh.

  19. June 14, 2017 9:42am EDT
    Congressional hearing on gun legislation canceled
    From CNN’s Jeremy Herb

    The House Natural Resources Committee was scheduled to have a hearing on gun legislation today that’s been canceled, per the committee website.

    Other hearings are still scheduled as of now.

    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is testifying at the House foreign affairs committee, but the hearing has been postponed until 10 a.m. ET.

    Senate Appropriations Committee aides say Defense Secretary James Mattis and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Joe Dunford are still expected to testify at 10:30

    • The up coming vote and debate on the Senate about healthcare bill was cancelled…..

  20. You can be sure that the left will use this incident to push Republicans harder than ever to enact new gun controls.
    The fact that the left has constantly stirred up hatred for the right since Nov. 9th will not be discussed by either side.

  21. Now they’ll want to take the guns away from everyone who didn’t do it.

  22. Amusing, fifty to one hundred rounds, and he hits one douche bag. All early indications are the shooter was left of center. They say every picture tells a story.

    I do like that their calling the weapon, a rifle, not one of those assault rifles. Frankly this news is solid gold, with subtle information, the way the article is written is a ” tell” , in its style and delivery. Interesting.

    Tic Toc.


  23. The quote that comes to my mind is the one uncovered by James O’Keefe last year from Scott Foval, who worked with the DNC to hire agitators:

    “I’m saying we have mentally ill people, that we pay to do shit, make no mistake,” says Foval in the video. “Over the last twenty years, I’ve paid off a few homeless guys to do some crazy stuff, and I’ve also taken them for dinner, and I’ve also made sure they had a hotel, and a shower. And I put them in a program. Like I’ve done that.

    Is the baseball field attack another example of “paid agitation” by the DNC’s useful idiots?

  24. 34 Red Bull

    “Gentleman, prepare to defend yourselves.”

    • LMAO!

      Oh no! It’s the start of the rev-oh-loo-tion! The civ-il war-war!

      Every man to his family and his belongings! Prepare to dee-fend yer-selves!

      Such theatrics.

  25. If under psychiatric or psychological care,,”health provider”
    should be exposed, not to mention his peers.

    “Every man to his family and his belongings”

    • The dude was worshiping the voodoo psychiatric socialists
      on steroids:

      “Voodoo death, a term coined by Walter Cannon in 1942 also known as psychogenic death or psychosomatic death, is the phenomenon of sudden death as brought about by a strong emotional shock, such as fear. The anomaly is recognized as “psychosomatic” in that death is caused by an emotional response—often fear—to some suggested outside force. Voodoo death is particularly noted in native societies, and concentration- or prisoner of war camps, but the condition is not specific to any particular culture.”

      “Seek ye His Kingdom and His Righteousness”

  26. Time to separate the country. There is no hope for peaceful coexistence with the left. It would be best if everyone just admits it and takes the Czechoslovakia route instead of the Yugoslavia route, but the left just won’t let go.

  27. OMG! OMG! OMG!

    Yawn. Who REALLY cares?

    Dumbocrats. Repukocrats. They’re all the same.

  28. jasonweiser

    There are rumors he was shouting about healthcare in between reloads.

  29. Watching FOX, the dog and Pony show is starting, a witness confirms Matts observations of an AK style rifle. The witness appeared to be weapons literate, accurately describing the weapon.

    Agree the shooter is a rank amateur.


    • TheyCallMeRockStar22

      Most shooters in a war are rank amateurs. The whole attack was rank amateur. But look at how much effect the amateurs have! far more than any Freefor in 30 years.

  30. Obviously chucks like EVERY POLITICIAN IN DC with a powerful position such as being a congressman cuck who has joined the treason against the people don’t understand yet. They think they should be able to fiddle away time playing baseball, unarmed, in between watching their $2M stock portfolios without being “sitting ducks”, even with all the obvious things happening while 99% live paycheck to paycheck and can’t get braces for their daughter.

    Hard to say whether the shooter was a riled up commie or an angry conservative.

    • I could write so much more. Still we are not free. We do not have freedom of anonymous speech.

  31. Anyone start a pool yet on who or what the MSM is going to try to hang this on. Evil assault rifles, Gun Control, Trumps Rhetoric, etc. My money’s on Climate Change.

    • Jimmy the Saint

      Trump’s rhetoric, same as when antifa/black block/whomever was beating people down at Trump rallies during the campaign.

  32. The ultimate irony: The deranged leftists outrage about some shit head with a gun….but calls another shit head with a gun to resolve the problem. Am I alone here?

  33. I am glad no one died(OK,shooter died may be OK with that),that said,I am to the point were I would not be surprised if this was done by folks looking for gun ban,something I believe many in both parties would want.

    The only reason I do not at moment wish shooter died is really wondering if he was drug/brain washed to commit act,nothing would really surprise me these days.

  34. Here’s an idea: Shoot back.

  35. The one morning I sleep in and THIS happens! Well I’m just glad my neighbor stocked-up on necessities, if I’m lacking anything I’ll just borrow his stuff

  36. Leftist Klinton Kamper Gov. McAuliffe calls for tougher gun laws.

    Ah, the drumbeat of wild-eyed left wing fanatics.

    • Oops, sorry, the above link was from a different incident. I’m sure his opinions are the same though.

  37. Mike Bishop

    Shooter was a BernieBro.

    Archive of his Twitter for when his Twitter account goes “dark”:


  38. Shooter ID’d as Bernie Sanders supporter from Belleville, Il. 66 years of age. M/W.

  39. alaskapaul

    If some of the people were packing concealed the perp would have been taken down in the beginning. Like sheep for the slaughter.

  40. The latest: The shooter has been identified as James T. Hodgkinson, law enforcement officials told the Washington Post. Hodgkinson is 66 and was charged with battery and damaging a vehicle in April 2006 in Illinois, although the charges were dismissed.

  41. Representative Steve Scalise R LA-1 Liberty Score = D 63%

    Interesting history on Stevo:
    “Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.), the House majority whip, acknowledged Monday that he spoke at a gathering hosted by white nationalist leaders while serving as a state representative in 2002, thrusting a racial controversy into House Republican ranks days before the party assumes control of both congressional chambers,” the Washington Post’s Robert Costa wrote late Monday. “The 48-year-old Scalise, who ascended to the House GOP’s third-ranking post earlier this year, confirmed through an adviser that he once appeared at a convention of the European-American Unity and Rights Organization. That organization, founded by former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, has been called a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.”

    Scalise Bio

    Who owns Steve’s Votes:

    One of his largest contributors is the PAC Votesane (I would argue their moniker is an oxymoron)

    “An informed, educated electorate that donates and votes is very powerful, so Votesane gives you tools to take control. So get busy. Be heard. Be active. Take control of your country. ”

    Certainly looks like somebody got busy.

  42. Odd stage; I don’t see a curtain anymore.

    Actual words from the FNC article so they don’t get disappeared:
    “Rep. Ron DeSantis, R-Fla., told Fox News he left just before the shooting. As he walked to his car, a man asked DeSantis if it was Republicans or Democrats practicing. About 3 minutes later, at around 7:15 a.m., the shooting began, DeSantis said. It reportedly lasted about 10 minutes.”

  43. James T. Hodgkinson, home inspector and third base shooter?

    Here is home inspector review from Belleville Ill. (ps I thought Ill had good gun lawrs sarc/)
    JTH Inspections  
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    Home inspector in St. Clair County, Illinois
    Address: Belleville, IL
    Hours: Open today · 7:30AM–5:30PM
    Phone: (618) 277-8028
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    6 reviews
    “He was Very thorough & took a lot of pictures.”
    “I would recommend him for any home inspections!”
    “James did a fantastic job.”
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    Adrian Nevarra
    Adrian Nevarra
    in the last week
    Something about this guy rubbed me the wrong way when I was purchasing a home after moving here from Mexico. He made some off-hand comments about politics and I mentioned being a conservative, and he thought I was an idiot for that reason. …More
    Justice Code
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    in the last week
    Bernie Sanders supporting liberal terrorist who started the second Civil War.
    Aaron Fullen
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    in the last week
    He also apparently opened fire on a Congressional baseball practice today.

  44. These fckin Sanders people are dangerous.

    Outlaw Bernie supporters today! Let’s establish some Bernie Free Zones!

  45. Shooter identified as a LOBBYIST from Obummer’s home state…voting for false flag. The Whip had a security detail there…how was the shooter able to get off 50 shots before being stopped by the Capitol police?