The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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46 responses to “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    • This^^^^
      Every Free Man, Woman and Child, should memorize Solzhenitsyn’s Lament
      Nothing is as bitter tasting as Regret.
      Set your Resolve now, today.

  1. Its not the constitution’s responsibility to protect the inherent rights of men, it is mans responsibility. It is nothing but a tool, a piece of paper.

    • So then — what of the system of government that has as its framework no meaningful penalties for violation and requires the governed to enforce its provisions against the governing?

      • So if the U.S. Constitution had a clause saying any government official/employee who violates it will be summarily executed, then everything would be hunky dory? Pretty sure that would have been the first thing they amended in 1790.

        As he said, it’s a piece of paper. Man is the problem, has been the problem and always will be the problem. Your final sentence has always been the only solution, the dirt people eliminate the cloud people and start over.

        • Absent meaningful sanctions for violation, any doc is worthless.

          • “Absent meaningful enforcement by the People for violations of the Constitution by the government (such as occurred in Anthens, Tennessee in 1946, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)), any doc is worthless.”

            There, fixed it for ya.

            General comment aimed at no one person:

            Folks might want to consider a different tactic than this old, tired, oft repeated meme blaming the instrument for every single issue/problem/injustice/crime caused by absolutely ZERO interference or enforcement by the one entity the Founders looked to for that very enforcement: The whole People.

            In essence, all that happens on these strings is a variation of, “This sucks!” without a single, workable plan to repair or restore how the Constitution is enforced upon the government. Not. One. Added to that are the constant incitements, one way or another, for others to take action, all the while deriding and denigrating everyone and anyone who believes in the Founding Principles.

            An Investigative Suggestion Sure to Lead to the Culprit(s):

            This is difficult, but I’ve done it, so I know it’s not impossible. The results are guaranteed to clear up some debris in the way your seeing the issue’s root cause and culprit(s) clearly.

            If you really want to learn why our government representatives are corrupt and do not subject themselves to the limitations clearly written in the Constitution and why nothing is done to correct those crimes, go take a long, long look in the mirror. Then, once you’ve got that person admitting the truth and accepting it without excuse, look at and evaluate your neighbors on the right/left of you, the people you work with, and every single adult member of your family.

            Keep doing that until it finally sinks in: The fault does NOT lie with the Constitution, however imperfectly it was written, no matter the historical events in its adoption.

            The fault lies with YOU. Personally. Every single indictment made against the Constitution is an accusation against yourself because you have done absolutely nothing to correct the course. (I’ve already told you I’ve done this, so when you flame, don’t waste your time with, “Oh yeah, what about YOU??”)

            It’s easy to talk shit; it’s much harder to lay blame where it belongs: On ourselves. Every. Single. American. It’s even harder to then determine what one is willing to sacrifice in order to set things right. It’s even harder still to take that action, whatever that has been determined to be.

            • Don’t disagree.

              Just want to make sure the analysis is accurate, both as to individual culpability and as to the structural problem that will need to be fixed in the aftermath.

              Short form: Simply ‘restoring the Constitution’ will NOT fix the problem. Post victory (which is a big stretch, given the absence of an agreed end state), there will need to be a new structure that is informed by the honest analysis of the 1789-20XX USC/BoR American experience.

              Suggested edit:

              Keep doing that until it finally sinks in: The fault does NOT lie with the Constitution alone, however imperfectly it was written, no matter the historical events in its adoption.

              The fault lies with with both the doomed-from-the-start document AND with YOU. Personally.

              • I don’t disagree with you on this subsequent point, either. We have within the Constitution a method for doing just that. Anything ‘wrong’ can be changed or modified. Simply canning it and attempting a ‘do over’ would, in fact, lay the ground work for the setting aside of any such remedy, at least, that’s my ‘from the hip’ thought….

                • As a practical matter, there is no way that the USC/BoR can be amended successfully given the anti-freedom, socialist indoctrination of the American people over the past 100 years.

                  In my opinion…

                  • Grenadier1

                    Agree, not using the as written process. Take for example the current trend pushing for a Convention of states to amend or alter the Constitution. I have said before how this should be handled.
                    ANYONE suggesting that this is a good idea given the current mindset of the population at large should hold said convention. It should be held in the largest stadium in the country, filled to capacity with all those who hold this idea. Once the convention is called to order, the doors should be locked and the stadium should be set on fire.
                    The people, at large today, do not have the intellectual or moral capacity to deal with the process. There must be a crucible. A rebirth that cleanses us of the hostile mental demons and soul sucking parasites. That should not be taken as meaning a call for mass death and destruction. There is ample opportunity for people to grow up and live beyond what they have said or done in the past, I just dont expect that most people can do that.

              • Edit accepted. Makes a good point about the fallibility of then the most pure inventions.

                But it does beg the question, “What, then, would be a superior replacement?”

                • 3.0

                  USC 1.0

                  CSA 2.0

                  FSA 3.0

                  FSA= Free States of America

                  Guts wb mutual defense treaty twixt the states and a recital of death penalty offenses for ANY govt actor, along with term limits

                  Only then a list of “can dos”.

                • Jim Klein

                  “But it does beg the question, ‘What, then, would be a superior replacement?’”

                  You’ve got it in your head that there MUST be rulers and ruled, that personal responsibility cannot possibly be a sufficient motivator for a decent, productive, peaceful society. Somehow you acknowledge that it’s right for a person, but not right for a bunch of people.

                  This is your error and this is why NO “replacement” has ever worked in the long run. We know this, because even the best one didn’t. You admit this and you admit that nothing is controlling EXCEPT the personal responsibility that each person either accepts or doesn’t.

                  You’re overthinking the matter IMO. Hence the inevitable appeals to “man’s nature” and BS like that. Men are naturally evil on this theory, even as you aren’t and your family isn’t and your friends aren’t. And the merchants aren’t and the consumers aren’t. In fact, only a tiny percentage of people are evil and the only reason they’re not eradicated is because everyone keeps looking for someone or something else to do it for them.

                  And by doing that–rejecting their own responsibility in the matter–create an institution which serves to PROTECT and INCENTIVIZE the evildoers. You know this too, and generally acknowledge it.

                  Stop with the theories already and go with what you KNOW. It’s each PERSON that makes the difference and it’s only EACH PERSON who gets anything done, by way of admitting his/her own personal responsibility. So if the answer lies in personal responsibility–which you shout with every chance you get–then let personal responsibility reign.

                  There, problem fixed.

        • No it’s not a piece of paper, it’s the words and their intent, those words, the intent of the framers is crystal clear. To have added penlties, would have degradated the intent.

          While we got some real haters here, that series of words, the intent of the framers, was and shall always be about equality, a founding principle.

          It’s important enough to me to have framed copies on my walls in my home. Every morning, while I read and drink my coffee, I look at those documents and pray for solutions within the constitutional boundarys.

          I gain comfort knowing the origin and intent of their meaning.

          Dirk

      • Northgunner

        Hi Pete,
        Ken Royce answered that question in ‘Hologram of Liberty’ as did Spooner in his works.

        To put it simply, folks are indoctrinated to BELIEVE that one branch or faction of ‘gov’ will stand guard/protect them from the predations of other elements of that same ‘gov’. This is no different than believing that the brother of the thug that’s beating you down will come with his cousin to restrain/stop him from hurting you further (ask Lavoy Finicum, Jack Yantis, Jose Guerna, Sammy and Vicky Weaver and the Branch Davidians and others how this worked out..for that matter ask any Indian!).

        No, IMHO the constitution was a contrived fraud by hamilton and his ‘founding lawyers/bankster’ supporters.
        The Whiskey Rebellion should have educated everyone that the Declaration was betrayed by the native parasite class that conspired in secret to foist the constitution on their fellow marks and pigeons.

        Yours in Daily Armed Liberty via anarchy!
        Northgunner III

        • <–What he said.

        • Jim Klein

          Yeah, what he said. And more trouble for you Constitutionalists…because of the Information Age, it’s becoming widely known how, and especially why, the Constitution was crafted to overthrow the then-existing government of the United States of America. It’s on the record and it’s obvious for anyone who cares to look.

          About the only informed people who aren’t willing to look, are Constitutionalists themselves. Such foolishness does not help your case and is why you’re doomed to fail. These are not good times for evasion. All you’ve got left is, “We’re going to kill you if you don’t agree.” Ho hum, now there’s something new, eh? Pretty soon it’ll be as boring as the same threats coming from the commie-libs.

      • Tagged, worthy question. (Recalling a proverb quoted by Ruark in one of his books, RE the admonition when doing away with something to replace it with something of value.)

      • Isn’t Scott saying that it’s the belief in this “system”, as if it’s somehow perfect (or self-perfecting), is the root of all our troubles? Not the system, but the delusional, hands-off trust in it.

        From where will those “meaningful penalties” come? This system itself? How long should we hold our breath waiting for that?

        Would that Mr. Burr had fixed Mr. Hamilton just so, but much, much sooner. Would that Patrick Henry had burned down that meeting place with all those bankster rats he smell’t inside.

        If personal freedom and security are our goals, is there a way to that end, without at least a few of us getting our hands dirty? Asking for a friend.

        • No.

          My point is those who look to the present Constitution, BoR, and all of the encrustations thereon are dooming themselves, their fellow-thinkers, and even those who oppose them (aren’t majoritarian politics great?) to failure.

          Phrased more tersely:

          Everything that you see – from undeclared wars to limitless spending to omnisurveillance to the boundless administrative state to government-authorized immigration policies intended to replace traditional Americans – is Constitutional, at least since that term has been understood since 1865.

          By saying “I support the Constitution”, each declarant of that phrase is actually saying “I support all of these policies”.

          I wish more people had the intellectual rigor to grok that point.

          • “Everything that you see – from undeclared wars to limitless spending to omnisurveillance to the boundless administrative state to government-authorized immigration policies intended to replace traditional Americans – is Constitutional, at least since that term has been understood since 1865.”

            Please refer to my reply above as to why your statement describes government overreach and outright criminal action since the War of Northern Agression..

            • Don’t disagree with your point, old friend.

              Just want people to account for ALL of the blame. Any structural document that does not bind the executive and the judiciary with enumerated powers at least at specific as those in Art I, sec 8 on the legislative branch is doomed to failure.

              And there are many other examples.

              • IMHO, the Declaration of Independence throws the burden on we the people. When shit ain’t working right fix it. We have the first and second A as a means to straighten shit out when those folks get out of hand. I agree that it’s the people’s fault ( me included) for things being how they are. We have the ability to take out the trash but not the will.

          • Let’s agree that the 1787 asswipe was a fraud foisted on an unsuspecting and weary America. Chuck it, and revert to the original Articles of Confederation. Invert the “supremacy clause” to the divine rights of the individual. Live with a few Shae’s Rebellions, or pick a better solution.

            We’ll never get the CNN-influenced majority to grok it, though. And it isn’t the lack of intellectual rigor, but their already abdicated and long-outsourced responsibility. Yes, they’re morons. But it’s their inertia that kills us.

            Let’s just write a new document, pass it around and re-write it until we get it right. Then, we’ll all sign it. And live by it.

            • Jim Klein

              Already done. It’s called the NAP, or sometimes the ZAP. It’s complete, both necessary and sufficient.

              Thing is, everyone’s so busy looking for rules that they don’t recognize it for what it is. It’s a choice, that’s all, a promise. And not only that, it’s a promise almost everyone would be willing to make if they only understood it.

              The ones who wouldn’t? That’s the funniest part of the whole thing. Once virtually everyone does, and they will, thuggery will no longer succeed and so thugs will quickly not choose thuggery. And the ones who aren’t even rational enough to see that? I mean really now…why not worry about all the rabid animals out there? There have been plenty of them all along, yet somehow we manage. Like picking a caliber is beyond our intelligence.

              • I would like the NAP much better if you put all the open-borders pansies in Grenadier’s stadium.

          • Everything that you see – from undeclared wars to limitless spending to omnisurveillance to the boundless administrative state to government-authorized immigration policies intended to replace traditional Americans – is Constitutional, at least since that term has been understood since 1865.

            No, it’s not.
            That Humpty Dumpty nonsense – and it is such – is precisely the rot, and where the problem began.
            And continues to fester.

            E.g., “shall not be infringed” means SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, despite any jurisprudential burpings from nine black-robed halfwits to the contrary, or any metric fuckton of federal and state regulations to the contrary.
            It’s not constitutional now, it wasn’t then, and it never will be, unless one accepts the linguistic reasoning of Lewis Carroll’s Humpty Dumpty as the final word on the subject:
            Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. … “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less.”
            “The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”

            Only for children and opium-smoking idiots can that ever be accounted as anything but nonsense reasoning.

            A pile of shit is still, and ALWAYS nothing but a pile of shit.
            Some mechanism does not exist that can turn it into steak, just as no amount of linguistic gymnastics will ever make Bruce Jenner a woman, despite orgies of self-mutilation, and barrelfuls of ink in changing his name and praising his sad psychosis as courage.

            The second part of the lack has been the near-boundless lethargy, complacency, and inertia by everyone, top to bottom, to demur rather than calling a spade a spade, on those points and ten thousand others, and hold the cheating bastards accountable to the point of their freedom and their lives. Because my job, football on TV, and double dessert.

            But even a glacier that monstrous has limits ere it begins to move.

            So please, stop beating on the cart because the jackass won’t move.
            It’s hard on the cart, it’s a waste of effort, and people will begin to talk.

            Oh, and it won’t work.

  2. Logical Thinking: “Forcing people against their will is slavery.”

    Magical Thinking: “Forcing people against their will is government.”

  3. Josey Wales

    I would have to disagree regarding no framework for violation of USC. Its called treason. We have been at war my entire life. Including the drug war. So what penalty does that call for?

    • Check the definition of treason.

      • Treason Paperback – January 13, 2013
        by Ralph Boryszewski

        “It was early in 1946. At the time, police officer Ralph Boryszewski began to challenge the system. In 1948 Ralph and two other officers backed the assertions of the “Blitz Cops” who publicly stated that vice and corruption were everywhere because of corrupt public officials. When Ralph appeared before the Grand Jury, he told its members to take notes because he was going to give them direct evidence of corruption and payoffs. The Grand Jury was fully informed with direct evidence volunteered by five officers and all them of them believed they would have obtained convictions and hopefully a clean political climate if allowed to present their evidence at a public trial. The Grand Jury at the time it was dismissed timidly informed the press through the District Attorney that it did not have enough evidence to indict, leaving the officers to the mercy of the corrupt politicians. The Assistant DA privately told Ralph he would be fired at their first opportunity. Ralph later founded The Association for Grand Jury Action, Inc. and educated over 600 members to resist the lies and corruption of prosecuting attorneys and judges who would unduly influence Grand Jurors to obstruct the administration of justice. For about twenty years under Ralph’s leadership, that Association of people more or less substituted itself as a Grand Jury in bringing matters of corruption to the attention of the people in Monroe County. In between his lengthy five year State Court appearances, Ralph also publicly exposed corruption in the office of two Presidents. More importantly, he exposed the utter lack of accountability by the U.S. Congress in its failure to impeach, convict, and remove many corrupt officials brought to its attention by Ralph. To top it all, he ably demonstrated to the American people, on many occasions, the mis, mal, and non-feasance by the Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court. With your help and cooperation, Ralph is now ready to serve all the people in exposing those who corrupt the system He presents his book to show the average citizen that it is relatively easy to assert leadership and take back our government without even seeking public office. In fact, Ralph demonstrates in his book, how due to a failure to maintain a separation of powers, that it’s almost impossible for those within the system to bring about real reforms.”

      • Josey Wales

        Wait, you don’t think destroying the country intentionality is treasonous?

  4. Great thread, thank you for your work CA. ALL of it.

    Everything that you see – from undeclared wars to limitless spending to omnisurveillance to the boundless administrative state to government-authorized immigration policies intended to replace traditional Americans – is Constitutional, at least since that term has been understood since 1865.

    Yep.

  5. Walter Sobchak

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  6. blah blah blah

    275 million worthless wastes of skin being put down for a long long dirt nap is the only real solution.

    who among you have the balls to win?

    I already have won by removing myself from the scrum…

    • Tfat, if you didn’t really care, you would not be here on WRSA. While you use hate as your ” medium” most here actually understand exactly what your trying to accomplish. While some think your a hater, I think not.

      Your as concerned as the rest of us.

      Now give us a hearty ” Fuck The Police” ands have a great weekend.

      Dirk

      • in a way.

        i just want to be able to travel without the concern of a rotten cop fucking with me because he’s power tripping or had a shitty day. and… i’m tired of having to share the space with millions and millions of dirty filthy lowlifes and scum buckets.

        275 million broke dumb fat asses gone buh bye would be very nice.

  7. I’ve read this four times now, different conclusion each time, im comfortably numb now.

    While I admire the education here, I’m a simple man, having thought that The Constitution placed ” We The People” in charge, of Govt, via the ballot box, collectively.

    Hence the voter fraud issues are critical to the Republic. Must be squared away ASAP.

    The remedies are presented, we the people don’t get it cuz, we’re force fed CNN, propaganda. The majority appear to be more interested in dancing with the stars, or America’s got talent, them focusing on remedies. Those guys think voting for their favorite politico, is the fix, they’ve done their part, by sending their guy to DC,

    Now let’s get back to psycho babble TV, I’d like to buy a vowel please, crowd, clearly does not know what most here have taken the time to study and understand.

    Once again I’m amazed at the clarity quality and content found here on WRSA.

    I may be wronged often, what’s offered here is why I’m here, to learn.

    Old dogs can learn, if their eyes and minds are wide open. This subjects pushing the right buttons.

    Thank all of you for my education.

    Dirk

    • Jim Klein

      ‘While I admire the education here, I’m a simple man, having thought that The Constitution placed ‘We The People’ in charge, of Govt, via the ballot box, collectively.”

      That was the snooker all along and why the blame, as if that matters, falls squarely on the shoulders of intellectuals. No such thing…never was and never will be. EVERY DROP of unchained human action is driven by EXACTLY ONE cause…individual volition.

      This is the FACT and everyone’s dizzy wondering why nothing works while trying to deny that fact.

  8. And all this gee-wiz electronical fancy thinking box shit is worth exactly zero when one operates off the grid. Use cash, no phone, no cable, no debt, no bank account, multiple identities.

  9. Anonymous

    Investigatory center had all that data from credit card use, and still they couldn’t find the hijackers in advance? Whatever would happen if a small military unit used cash and kept it out of electronic transactions? They’d be invisible!

  10. The Usual Suspect

    blah blah blah is right, everyone has you on ignore .