Interview With Matt Bracken

The Red Cliffs of Zerhoun: a historical novel set in the future
Q and A with author Matt Bracken

WRSA: What does the title of your new novel refer to?

Red sandstone cliffs are common to the coastal region of Morocco I’m writing about, and they feature in the story. All the Dan Kilmer novels are going to contain a geographical feature in their titles. So far I’ve used up “Cay” and “Cliffs”, so I don’t anticipate running out soon.

WRSA: I couldn’t find Cape Zerhoun or Port Zerhoun on any maps of Morocco.

It’s a composite of a few different locations, but is largely based on the historical pirate port of Salé from the corsair era but relocated a bit to the south. The name Zerhoun is taken from a holy mountain in Morocco which is a national pilgrimage site. I sprinkled some other non-random names into the novel, for example, anyone who considers secret dungeon complexes to be implausible in the modern era might want to look up Tazmamart, Morocco.

WRSA: “The Red Cliffs of Zerhoun” seems to run deeper than the typical post-SHTF dystopian action novel. There is actual character development, for example, which is rarely seen in the genre.

Thanks for noticing. Actually, the entire novel is an allegory for the defense of Western Civilization and European Christianity in the face of the one-two punch coming from today’s cultural-Marxist ruling elites and the always eager Islamic invaders. Three times in European history the continent was nearly overrun by Muslim armies, and three times the invasion was just barely turned back: at Tours, Lepanto and Vienna. Today, the situation is even more dire, because cultural-Marxist Quisling traitors have managed to switch off Europe’s natural defenses and open the gates to invasion, and have even permitted Islamic jihad beachheads to be established in every European city. I’m not optimistic about the eventual outcome of the coming European civil war, but I’m not ready to give up, which is why I wrote this novel. It’s my best shot in the counter-jihad.

In terms of the allegory, the nearly seventy girls kidnapped from a religious boarding academy in Ireland are a microcosm for the future of Western Civilization and European Christianity. Will what is left of European manhood rise to the challenge and send out a desperate rescue mission to bring the stolen girls home, or just shrug at the hopeless situation, and write them off? When you consider that Egypt, Syria, Turkey and many other nations were once staunchly Christian, I’ll admit the future does not look bright for Europe, given today’s circumstances. But I’m not a defeatist, and that’s why I wrote The Red Cliffs of Zerhoun.

In addition, I wrote it to remind British men of their nearly-forgotten military heritage, which is still kept alive in units like the Special Air Service. British men stood tall and faced down the Nazis when it looked like Britain would have to go it alone, even to fighting on the beaches, in the words of Winston Churchill. I hope some of that martial spirit is left in Britain. If not, eventual defeat and submission to Islam is inevitable.

WRSA: What’s the point of having the British SAS and the Irish Republican Army cooperating on the mission? That seems pretty far-fetched, even for a Matt Bracken novel.

Former SAS and former IRA. Plot-wise, the ex-SAS operators have the operational experience and the required skills, but no access to the guns they will need for the mission. They are planning an unsanctioned operation and the British government would shut them down if they caught wind of it. The IRA have the guns, which were never turned in after the peace accords of the late 1990s. The girls were kidnapped from an Irish boarding academy, so there is also an element of Irish national pride involved. The IRA are not just going to hand their cached guns over to a team of Brits and say, “Good luck, mates, see you when you get back, maybe.” They are going to go on the mission too.

At the allegorical level, the larger point is that even long-standing European animosities will have to be cast aside when it comes down to a matter of mutual survival against a common existential threat from outside. Eventually, it’s the West against the rest, do or die.

WRSA: It’s a wild plot, beginning with the mass kidnapping, but could anything like that ever really happen?

Actually, it’s already happened many times, from the sixteenth to the nineteenth centuries. Look up “The sack of Baltimore Ireland, 1631” or “The Turkish Raid, Iceland, 1627”. The point is that when Europe is weak, Islam attacks, and Europe has not been weaker relative to Islam in at least two centuries. In the event of an economic collapse and civil war in Europe, I can certainly see events like the mass-kidnapping described in Red Cliffs happening again. Absolutely.

WRSA: In your novel, Spain seems to have weathered the chaos of the religious civil war better than most other European countries. Why is that?

I don’t necessarily believe that Spain will do better than other nations, I’m only suggesting that there will be differences in national outcomes as separate national identities re-emerge from the wreckage of the European Union. I’m also pointing to the cyclical nature of history. That’s why I foreshadowed the original Spanish Armada in the opening pages of the novel.

WRSA: Are those Norwegian “Storm class” patrol boats for real, or did you invent them for the story?

They are definitely for real, and I actually had the opportunity to observe them in action, or at least on a training exercise along the Atlantic coast of northern Norway in the 1980s. Four of them came out of the rain and fog and were running at full speed right through our squadron of giant amphibious ships before we even knew they were there, and then they ran tight circles around us, cutting right through the big waves. You can find out a lot more about the Storm-class boats on the internet. There are still some around on active service in various Baltic navies as well as in museum settings.

WRSA: I noticed that early on in Red Cliffs, Dan Kilmer expresses a desire to find the right woman and raise a family. Is Dan finally going to settle down?

If men like Dan Kilmer give up on the idea of finding the right woman and starting a family, then it really is game-set-match for Western Civilization. And our conquerors will not even keep our history alive in museums and libraries, which they will blow up, burn down and bulldoze in order to obliterate even their contained memories and prevent them from being passed down to coming generations. The great cathedrals of Europe could literally all become mosques in our lifetime, marking the total extinction of Western Civilization and European Christianity. Read Tom Kratman’s “Caliphate”, which is always free on Kindle, to see what an Islamized Europe might look like.

WRSA: What’s next for Dan Kilmer?

I think that Dan will find a reason to return to the post-collapse Disunited States of America, but I haven’t started writing the next novel yet.

WRSA: Well, please keep us informed of its progress, and thanks for taking the time.

You’re always welcome.

Get yours today.

Matt Bracken was born in Baltimore, Maryland in 1957 and graduated from the University of Virginia in 1979 with a degree in Russian Studies. He was commissioned in the US Navy through the NROTC program at UVA, and then graduated from Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL training class 105 in Coronado California. He served on east coast UDT and SEAL teams, taking a Naval Special Warfare detachment to Beirut in 1983. Mr. Bracken left active duty after Lebanon, upon completion of his obligated military service, but he remained in an active reserve status through the remainder of the 1980s. Since then he has lived in Florida, Virginia, South Carolina, Guam and California. In 1993 Mr. Bracken finished building a 48-foot steel sailing cutter of his own design, on which he has done extensive ocean cruising, including a solo voyage 9,000 miles from Panama to Guam and two Panama Canal transits.

Matt is a self-described freedomista who loves ocean sailing for the pure freedom it often permits. He is a constitutionalist who believes in the original intent of the founding fathers of our country. He lives with his family in North Florida and longs for the wide blue ocean.

22 responses to “Interview With Matt Bracken

  1. Excellent!
    ‘Red Cliffs’….highly recommended….as are the rest of his books!

  2. Atlas Shrug


    1. I just finished TRCOZ (Kindle) a day or two ago. Very enjoyable, very plausible, and a very important lesson, IMHO.
    2. I just loved the numerical virgin twist (Warning, slight spoiler alert): snatching the 72 virgins from the jaws of a jihadist future back to the bosom of western life, where reality lies (as opposed to their salacious and silly afterlife fantasy) – that was a nice touch.
    3. Hopefully this kind of allegory will get some more people thinking. Lord knows not much else seems to these days…..

    Thank you for what I consider important work. Your books, short stories, and interviews are getting important ideas and concepts out there. I hope that you make a few dollars in the process, although I know that for you that is secondary to making a positive difference for the future of western. Let’s pray both happen.

    Keep your powder dry,
    Atlas Shrug

    • I usually feel like I’m just writing for the record, that the long war is basically lost, but I like to end novels on an up note with a hint of optimism. The book is more optimistic than I am.

  3. Excellent book! it’s a very good read, informative, inspirational and probably quite prescient.

  4. Go Matt!

  5. The mass kidnappings are already happening, but it is called “grooming”.

    • Pizzagate.
      the justice department under Trump has arrested thousands for child and sex trafficking.

  6. Can’t wait to read The red Cliffs. Ordered it on Kindle. If its anything like EFAD I’m not getting any sleep tonight.
    Matt has these really great heroes in his stories who could be any of us just standing up for what is right against what is wrong.
    But the best hero is Matt.

  7. the beating heart and soul of White Western civilization was Germany, and the heart and soul of Germany was Prussia. Gone, thanks to the Jews’ war to save the Soviet Union and put Israel on the map…alias WW2. Dan Kilmer better get his ass back to ‘Murka, where Whites still have a chance. Because Europe – ‘cept the relatively Jew-wise Slavic nations – is finished.

  8. I am a big fan of Matt’s work, I own his trilogy as well as Castigo Cay and The Red Cliffs of Zerhoun is on its way from amazon. I am presently re-reading the trilogy, it is eyeopening. Back in 2003 Matt was able to show that fake news… yes it has been around for many what the sheeple watch and believe… I especially liked the news reporter in EM&D named Mentiroso( Liar in Spanish!)

  9. I have been following MB’s progress with the book, and his insight into what is happening in Europe, and soon to visit stateside, via his interviews with John B. Wells on Caravan to Midnight, and with the Hagmann Report. I pray, literally, that his warning is heeded, both in Europe and here.

    It is difficult to imagine how far behind the curve most Americans are, even now, and without MB’s input, how far behind we would all be.

    Thank you, MB does not seem adequate, but aside from purchasing the books, “thank you” may be all I can contribute to the cause he has so relentlessly taken up.

    On another note, I would love to hear his opinion regarding the percentage of women who have taken up arms with the Kurdish forces in Syria. Does he know or has he heard how these units are faring?

    I understand that in a more perfect world, women in combat is not a good idea. I read with great interest the post by Aesop in the Girls with Guns thread. I don’t disagree with Aesop, but for now it appears that circumstances on the ground there do not afford the luxury of heeding the results of all those studies. As an aside, I did a 7th grade term paper on Israel, and my teachers and classmates were truly surprised that at the time, mandatory military service was part and parcel of Israeli citizenship for both males and females. So women in combat is not a new subject for me. I don’t advocate it, but in that case, and now in the case of the Kurds, women are compelled to take up arms for combat. I am sure they would love a world and a society in which they could raise families, unmolested by the inconveniences of war, but that is not a reality at the present time.

    Any thoughts he may have on the subject would be most welcomed.

  10. GA Patriot

    I’ve read all of Bracken’s books. The latest is a page turner. Worth the money.

  11. Shinmen Takezo

    At some point in the future, wouldn’t it be interesting to see the IRA fighting Muslim insurgents in Ireland–using all those weapons that were never turned in (wink, wink, nudge, nudge).

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  13. Current masthead nails it.

  14. Thomas J Crowley

    I just finished the “RED Ciffs” and I put it right up there with anything Matt has written. I especially like the short story at the end. Clean up the story.

  15. Europe is done. Stick a fork in it. The numbers don’t lie, the demographic trends are there for all to see and there are no plausible factors that would put them into reverse.
    Can’t say much about America since I don’t live there but at least you guys have a shot, literally.

  16. Being 99.7 % Irish if DNA technology is reliable [ I’m suspicious of modern anything ] and I can’t wait to read it. History seems to be interwoven in Matt’s novels to a great degree and I’m hoping prophecy is not also intertwined therein also but many great writers have had a serious thread of prophecy . ie;Orwell

  17. back to reality…

    this is where we are at.

    imagine where we will be…

    and all the bs training in the world will not prepare you white cucks for 5th gen warfare… and it’s already here.

    nice cuntry yews all have there.

  18. Northgunner

    Recently finished TRCOZ; definitely kept my attention all the way through! Also gave me a new appreciation for ‘Devil Ham’ and duct tape and zip ties.

    Hope the scuzlums at cair are twitching and going apoplectic over his novel!

    And speaking of scuzlums…

    New Jersey: Court forbids residents to mention “Islam” or “Muslim” at public hearing on mosque construction
    “ANN ARBOR, MI – In a settlement agreement, which reads more like an instrument of surrender, Bernards Township (“Township”), New Jersey officials agreed that, in addition to a $3.5 million payment to Islamic Society of Basking Ridge (“ISBR”), residents and citizens of the Township are prohibited from commenting on “Islam” or “Muslims.” at the upcoming public hearing to approve the settlement. Astonishingly, a federal judge approved the prohibition as a fully enforceable Order of the Court…”

    So much for that pesky ‘1st Amendment’,eh?
    Talk about enforcing stealth sharia law…
    Here it is spelled out:
    murder. = i.s.l.a.m.

    Yours in Daily Armed Infidel Liberty via anarchy!
    Northgunner III