See also this comment from earlier this evening:
I have been posting this anywhere and everywhere; major news site to any blog I can find. This not a joke or a scam. Paddock was tasked by the Bureau to facilitate an undercover weapons buy to suspected IS operatives at the hotel. The IS members were tipped off and killed Paddock. They then commenced the Vegas shooting as a, “target of opportunity”, as it were. This is being covered up at the highest level. Paddock’s handler has been threatened and silenced as well. Operational documents as proof of this are forthcoming (hopefully)
From over the transom earlier today:
I told you they’d claim it was AR15s in Vegas. Look at the photos. Pure tripe — specifically going after Daniels Defense, after DD had the -nerve- to seek an advertising segment during half-time at the slobberbowl. Revenge as a secondary purpose, right there.
This OP has *every* hallmark of a FF/setup at this point – the “full monte” of lies and manipulation is on grotesque display.
And if you’ve been surfing at all, you’ll also notice that lots of veterans are saying that 1) there are definitely multiple shooters and multiple firing positions involved, and 2) that at least one of the guns was an M240/SAW. Both of which we concur with.
Here’s one other telling bit for you: if the lone shooter was on the 32nd floor, how were people safe behind a ~30 to 36 inch high wall less than 800 feet away? (estimated wall height from published photos, lateral distance of 780 feet via google-maps, see images)
Trigonometry doesn’t lie – if the shots were coming from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay (or the roof directly above the now-infamous Room 135), then the protected area behind such low cover as that wall provides would not have saved them. The protected area in ref to the 32nd floor (12 feet per floor X 32 floors is 384 feet height; lateral distance to the wall is about 780 feet from the MB hotel [at ground level – see annotated photo] to the base of the wall, so the hypotenuse angle is about 40 degrees at the low wall…. meaning that the protection would only have extended – at most – 42 or 44 inches out from the base of the wall. Not nearly enough of a safe space for roughly 35 feet of wall to have sheltered almost a hundred people from the entire attack, as stated by many witnesses, including several police officers who were ‘pinned down’ at that exact location throughout much of the shooting.
But if the gun shooting at them was on the 4th floor, or the apron-roof at 4th floor level [as shown by the taxi driver’s video], then this makes *perfect* sense, because the protected area would have
extended out from that wall almost 10 feet for a typical adult laying flat on the ground. (4th floor X 12 feet/floor = 48 feet height; lateral distance remains as ~780 feet, then the angle of fire would
only be on the order of 10~13 degrees downward) So, if a human laying flat is only 12″ high, then the protected area would have extended at least 8 feet, and possibly as far as 11 feet away from the wall (allowing for the multiple estimated factors). The area protected by the low wall would be almost as good if the main gun were much farther away, say 1500~1800 feet [i.e. on top of the Delano Hotel], even while 30+ floors in height, because the depression-angle of the gun from a more-distant rooftop [not a prepared firing position in a comfy suite] would have been excessive for the operator. This becomes relevant, below.
Further, the photos of the ‘shooters nest’ on the 32nd floor are all wrong – First, there should have been spent brass *everywhere* after such a fracas, but there’s almost none in the photos I’ve seen. I’d
love to see the final count on spent brass from the ‘Room 135’, because I believe it’s way too low to account for the carnage that was accomplished. I’ll bet its at least an order of magnitude low, compared to the following calculations:
We’ve got ~600 victims, right? Many were hit by multiple rounds. So lets say 750 hits as a *minimum*. Reality is probably closer to 900 hits, but that’s just another riff on the same theme, once you seehow to do the math.
Even in a packed venue like this, when firing full-auto the ratio of hits to rounds discharged would be low, most likely between 1:6 and 1:12 – especially once people started fleeing every which way. Let’s
say the “reasonable” range is between 1:5 and 1:12 hits-per-rounds-fired, just to be safe at the lower bound – Then 750 X 5 = 3750 minimum rounds fired. This is an extremely low bounding value; and 750 X 12 = 9000 probable rounds fired. Not the upper bound value, by any reasonable sense of events, but a very likely value.
So in total we *must* have at least 3,750 rounds fired, probably 9,000 rounds, and quite possibly more. So where in hell is all that spent brass? Not in Room 135, apparently.
I’ve been in situations where we [~ a dozen guys, ten M4s and two MGs] spent 10K rounds of ammo in well under 5 minutes. Ammo goes amazingly fast, when you’re engaging numerous targets at short to medium range! [And yes, 500 meters is ‘only’ medium range for any real machine gun] After such an event, the brass is so thick on the ground that its a real hazard to guys getting up from their fighting positions slipping and falling on the ‘rolling carpet’ of brass around them. I’ve shaken a dozen or more pieces of brass out of my shirt and webgear after such an engagement, and had no recollection of how it could possibly have gotten there. Brass goes *everywhere* wildly – it bounces and rolls around a lot.
So, either these photos of ‘Room 135’ are seriously sanitized, and therefore worthless, or there is another firing position (or multiple other firing positions) and again, these photos are the ‘horse and
pony’ show, just a distraction from the truth instead of an admission of it. Both assertions are very likely to be the case here – there’s the sanitized [or unused] ‘nest’ on the 32nd floor that they’re showing us, *plus* the other firing positions which we will never hear about, let alone see photos of.
Honestly, I don’t believe that they -had to- sanitize the room on the 32nd floor, because I don’t believe that many -if any- rounds came from there.
Just examining the site plan from above, the best firing positions are on top of the Delano hotel. That position has the clearest, most commanding view of the entire venue, by far. If I were going to do such a thing, that’s where I’d go to do it.
Second best positions are A) on the roof of the Mandalay Bay or B) a high window facing East in that building, as Room 135 has. The position on the 4th floor [or on the lower, apron-roof at about 3.5 stories in height] of the Mandalay Bay would really only have been useful for engaging targets backstage, or in the VIP area of the venue, as the rest of the area is too obscured by ground clutter at that lower elevation. The lower position does, however, command the Boulevard via which the anticipated police and EMS response will come, and command it very well. Or, in other words, this could have gone much worse for the First-Responders.
The only viable alternative is the roof of the Excalibur, another block away, but that doesn’t match any of the witness reports or collected video of the event. The Luxor pyramid and the building just north of the pyramid aren’t suitable [look at the upper fascia – above the roofline – of the building north of the Luxor, the building with the Chris Angle/MindFreak sign on it] is unsuitable because there is no gap between the roof and the fascia from which to deploy a firing position; whereas on Mandalay Bay and the Delano the above-roof fascia has a substantial gap through which a fire-team could easily be deployed.
This can all be seen on google-maps using satellite view and 3D – look for the signature strip of light on the roof, right at the base of the fascia – that proves theres a gap — and it’s usually about 2 feet high. You can’t see that gap from the ground, but it’s almost always there. It makes for a perfectly hidden firing position. Guys who work from a highrise roof with any regularity will know exactly what I’m talking about.
Anyways, the above are a significant subset of the reasons why I’m certain we’re being feed a colossal line of BS here, and that this is indeed a false flag operation to enrage the Right, to bait us into a fight that will -regardless of who “wins” – finish off our nation in terms of ever recovering a legitimate government, or even just stopping the political and racial violence. It’s an end-game play by monsters who don’t count the cost, only their ‘victories’.
UK Daily Mail: Stephen Paddock was brilliant, had an intimate knowledge of the Second Amendment and had a huge ‘gun room’, says friend, as it’s revealed he had made to order weapons that cost thousands of dollars