Repost: Dealing With Winter

From last year, via Colorado Pete.

This material will be on the test.

30 responses to “Repost: Dealing With Winter

  1. Alfred E. Neuman

    Reblogged this on FOR GOD AND COUNTRY.

  2. Seraphim of Sarov

    He’s exactly right. The secret is moisture control and the secret to moisture control is synthetics. Minor quibble, I’d swap out the polyester thermals for that gay ass looking skin tight under armor pants and long sleeve shirts. IMHO that improves the wicking effect ie the moisture from skin being wicked away.

    If it’s too cold to rain, skip the waterproof outer layer. Put your mouth to the material and breathe–if you can feel your breath coming out the other side, that’s perfect. Unfortunately it’s more common in girl coats, but what you need to look for is a coat with poly-fil (looks and feels like cotton, but is spun polyester). So I’m layered this way: skin tight under armor, polar fleece layer, then a breathable poly-fil coat.

    For boots I use the green Walmart rubber boots with a double layer of acrylic socks. But that’s not breathable–right? When you walk in them it acts like a pump and you can feel the air whooshing around your calves. It pumps the moist air out and the dry air in. For long periods of inactivity, by keeping your core warm it keeps your feet warm.

    If you have cotton, you’re wrong. If you need hand warmers, you’re wrong.

    He’s pretty much covered everything else.

    Bravo zulu for re-sharing this article. It was an excellent read.

    • Cotton kills. Period.

    • Yes and about the only thing i could add is silk garments against the skin. A silk long sleeve crewneck and pants makes a material difference in comfort. It wicks the moisture away from the body quite well. I also prefer natural fiber options as much as possible for the balance of the garment suite.

      • SemperFi, 0321

        My favorite is silk long johns with a nice soft wool sweater over them. Bundeswehr wool pants too. Cozy beyond belief. Those German wool pants were the highest quality pants ever made, nothing even comes close, if Filson made those today they’d charge $300/pr. I’ve got Swedish and Aussie wool pants too, but they don’t get used nearly as much as the German ones. Fortunately I have 3-4 pr of them. 🙂
        When hiking I wear polypro, then switch to Merino wool when I get to camp or am going to stop sweating. Wool won’t shed moisture like polypro, but it’s much warmer once you decide to sit still. It’s windy as hell here in Wyoming’s Wind River Range (howling outside right now for days on end), and you can’t stay wet for long, or you’ll freeze. Carry an extra set along to change out of when they get soaked.
        Darn Tough wool socks have replaced my Smartwool socks, the Darn Tough wear at least 5x longer for me. I have all weights, even the low tennis shoe ones since I wear wool all yr long.

        • Love my Darn Tough Socks and when they wear out I just send them in for a new pair… Everyone here should have some…Hope your doing well Brother…

          • SemperFi, 0321

            All is well. Got a new Yellow Lab pup yesterday to accompany me on my hikes.
            Just came home, filled the woodbox and a blizzard is raging outside while I have a Guinness and watch some of my friend Joey’s backpacking videos. Hope all is well up north and all of you have a great and happy New Year.

  3. Colorado Pete

    Thanks CA.
    My old partner in frozen adventures suggested learning about these other charming winter activities:

    Circumcision by frostbite.
    How to remove frozen pee from a Nalgene bottle.
    Preparing lost toes for transport.
    Perfect aerial photos from a Medevac helicopter window.
    Negotiating Diarrhea in a 2 a.m. blizzard.
    How to properly walk in frozen Sorel boats.
    Running back to your vehicle in your sleeping bag.
    Proper walking stick placement and balance during intestinal distress.
    Selling your used winter camping gear on eBay.
    Maintaining proper body position throughout a snowdrift face-plant.

    The good old days indeed.

  4. James W. King

    Why are Yankees so rude, ill mannered and mean ???
    1.–They have to live in all that cold weather
    2.–They don’t have any grits to eat

  5. Northern Gunner

    -21 below zero F here in my AO tonight air temp. Pushing negative -40 with winds. Take away the nat gas and electicity during a cold blast like this many people would be in serious trouble really quick.

    • Modern complexity is a two edged sword. The hive dwellers believe the State will always save them. Out here no one will save me but me. And stupid gets punished fast.

  6. Nice repost, it’s still timely a year later, go figure. Climate change advocates can’t quite wrap their cunts around cold weather, but given enough money, that argument will emerge, as the scheme of wallet emptying for a greater cause, continues. Rule 1 of life, keep your money in your front pocket.

    Those who bring you tales of climate change on your TV, sprightly-looking though they are, are part of a sub-set of the violation of Rule 3, never stick it in crazy (R3V in shorthand.) Man-caused climate change believers are mostly female, and mostly crazed. Some get paid to be on the TV, there’s much ad revenue gained by their appearance. Don’t be fooled. Liberal is crazy, and a potential R3V is in play if you go down that road.

    Since there’s only the basic three rules, I can’t just gloss over Rule 2, that of never talking to the Man. Seems as if a fair amount of emphasis has been done on this site this past month on this topic, after Herr Mueller got a plea deal from short-time hand Flynn, for lying to the FBI on a Martha Stewart look-alike charge. Has the FBI ever lied to you? Just wondering, Waco and Ruby Ridge and all; and their policed-up brass attempt as Finicum was murdered; Las Vegas is pending and won’t be sorted out properly within the lifetimes of many of us. Your answer proclaims which side of the fence you sit on. Those who attempt to straddle such a fence issues may already have range cards made by some other person just for them, which may solve that painful fence-straddling forever and ever.

    But back to this timely article: soon as I saw it, I went and read comments on it just to see if I’d stepped on my dick once again, some time back. Current readers might want to do that also, prior to their re-invention of the wheel.

    What a difference a year makes. Empire continues its descent with a more likeable hand on the tiller.

  7. Reblogged this on The Defensive Training Group and commented:
    Very, VERY good information! Read the whole post.

  8. What is this “winter” of which you speak? I am not familiar with that term down here in Florida. Is it something like Kwanzaa? A fraud perpetrated on the gullibles by the FedPigs?

    By the way, how does one properly spell “Kwanzaa” in the “native” language? Do chimps actually have writing? Thanks to Ra-Chel, we know they don’t do cursive…

  9. Nice repost, thanks.

  10. I try to get at least my socks with wool, felt lined boots and then layer with synthetic.
    What really is a bother here is the wind, as even a light breeze can suck heat out of your body in a hurry.
    Early this week, we clocked a minus 42 Celsius with minus 54 with wind chill (now called ‘real feel’ in Canada).
    Keep your head and hands warm and don’t push it to the point you’re sweating or breathing hard.

  11. One thing I always check the thrift stores for is Gore-Tex – everything.

    Big enough to fit over everything, usually best with the armpit zippers to vent heat when moving/working. Wind and wet are killers, and snow-bombs from trees are the biggest source of wet.

    Worked for years in the UP marking and cruising timber, insulated Carhartt bibs and jackets were good enough for the majority of weather.

    If enough snow in your AO, learn to build a snow shelter, nothing fancier than a low bunker/FP with overhead snow a foot or so deep over a tarp reinforced with branches is a lifesaver in -20° nights, but doesn’t keep the beer from freezing (snowboarding Mt. Bohemia in college before it became a resort, don’t judge).

    And you better have sunglasses, chapstick and perhaps sunscreen.

    Frostbite, windburn and sunburn at the same time really sucks, especially if you can’t see.

  12. lastmanstanding

    Read this again last night. Lots of great stuff there for sure.

    Having lived in cold climes all my life and worked in them, clothes for cold and recommendations have changed for sure. In the old days wool and silk were huge. With all of this new tech, lots of new “stuff” is being touted. If you got the bucks you can get the “stuff”.

    Having spent decades back country skiing and hunting in Montanaistan, here are a few simple recommendations fwiw.

    Silk or capilene base layer. I like Patagonia zip tee’s. (I have some now that I still use and are nearly 20 years old and they get thrown in the wash/dry just like everything else and still work great.) Covers your neck and can be vented if necessary. If real cold/windy, a tee and a zip over it. Then a good fleece layer. Cheap fucking fleece sucks when your going someplace that might kill you…same with a shell. Gloves/hats/socks…buy the best that you can and experiment. Stuff extra in your pack…it will give you piece of mind. We all know how difficult that is to come by these days.

    Believe me there are lots to choose from and if you look for deals 24/7/365 you will find them. Most of my stuff has been scrounged for 50 cents on a buck, some lots less. With all of these manufacturers still cranking product, they have to move it and most of the time it is left over and damn cheap.

    I always have a stash of funds for cheap, high end, save your life shit…and ammo. Hand-me-down stuff is saved for my grandkids or some one in need.

    Happy New Year all…best wishes in these uncertain times. 😉

    • lastmanstanding

      …forgot the most important…”guides pace”. (when applicable!) A tempo that you can remain fully dressed and not sweat. Got that term from a friend who knew his shit long ago on a trip “way da f outta bounds A!” in the Canadian back country.

      • I agree with that pacing suggestions, it’s hard to keep the sweat down when snowshoeing and breaking trail, however, you ain’t gonna get there, if you’re frozen half way there.

        I’m looking at some Siberian Hunter Skis as an alternative to Web snowshoes, I’ll have to try them on hills before I make the final decision.

        • Not familiar with those. Can you post info pls?

        • lastmanstanding

          In 1999, I bought the Dyna-Fit back country boot/binding system and slapped a pair of Tua Sumos beneath them. Add some bca climbing skins and bam…I busted some big shit for 5 years with those guys…mostly solo…and then I had to grow up…again…sigh. 😦

          That system was REAL stable. At the time, I could climb nearly 1000 vertical an hour. Skin for 3-4 hours and get a bomber run back to the rig in deep pow.

          I still have them but the boards have delaminated a bit. I am going to dismount the bindings and stick them on some old man ski’s. Safer that way. I haven’t looked at ski’s honestly for 10 years. Last time I bought some was for wifey. We have a great local touring shop owned by friends that is money. Everyone should look local first.

          I’d recommend (again fwiw) getting a solid pair of boots that are comfortable. A wider, steel edged touring ski, telescoping poles and skins if you want to cover all bases. I loved the Dyna-Fits because I could lock in like regular down hill skis for the descent. Tele-marking (Tele-skiing) is the alternative. I believe tele-skiing is more difficult to master and like the idea of turning with knees together that knees apart.

          We all need to be reminded from time to time that reposting articles like this from Colorado Pete will all bring us back to “reality”.

        • That’s why you always wear layers…with a parka.

  13. Practice extreme thermal cycling. You might find your cold tolerance goes up. Lots of fun esp with mountain well water but it does work. Wool is my best friend. Real wool.

    Happy New Year everyone!