How are you rigged on these supplies?
I know, I know.
I need like $10,000 worth of stuff.
That medic bag is mine, and it costs very little if you know where to go and who to ask nicely. Do your networking and build your contacts.
Thanks for the excellent article.
Do you have a vendor list to help JP and other people execute?
The bandages and abd pads and various gauze rolls and the obviously basic items can be found at any decent pharmacy like CVS or Walgreens. GovX.com has some trauma kits that’ll go a long way toward getting your started from scratch, just need prove military, police or first responder affiliation for membership. Mountainside-healthcare.com has IV fluids, sold to healthcare professionals. That’s where the networking comes in.
I may also be available to obtain certain materials for people who can vouched for.
The equipment you need to take a full set of vital signs is available at places like CVS and Walgreen’s.
Here is the Quikclot gauze:
Here is a cheaper bit:
I like these guys.
They are the hotness for the higher speed stuff.
Don’t forget to add a burn blanket and birthing kit, both with related meds.
Reblogged this on Free American Patriot.
i once dated the head cardiac nurse at Detroit’s Harper Hospital at the Detroit Medical Center. a little “barbie doll” who new her shit well. supplied my kit with every device, medication, and item, she could stick in her pockets for over a year… 🙂
That’s good use of a source, like I mentioned. Now what are the expiration dates on some of those things? Some of the expiration dates can be ignored but some shouldn’t be.
Guys who will spend $2000 on a rifle won’t spend $200 to deal with GSW and the related infection.
Have everything but the sutures and IV fluids, and I didn’t spend $10K. (Got a good closeout deal on one of those huge Blackhawk packs, and it all lives in that.)
I would say that you can store you vet supplies there too. You know, all those antibiotics for those fish that you intend to keep when the balloon goes up (and the books with the right doses and courses for 100, 150, 200 lbs fish). Also, rather than sutures, for most folks, I would say to go with a couple of disposable staplers (and DON’T forget the staple puller.) Get some some surgical glue for that horse you plan to get, too.
Also, I would say some of the new burn dressings like watergel or Burntek. The one thing in my pack that I’ve used more than band-aids is the small burn dressings. They really do work like magic. (They were also a godsend for the friend with the autistic kid who burns himself often AND freaks out when he’s in pain). The Burntek gel bandages are my preference, although I keep a bottle of the loose watergel goo to make my own improvised bandages rather than the goofy face bandage.
Also, decompression needles. Tension pneumothorax is both deadly and terrifying. It’s like drowning on dry land.
A tad too brief on things, but as purely contents list, a very good overview of the basic requirements. (I mention that because a fuckton of people will think they know what they’re doing just because they collected the stuff, and read this one article.)
And a fully stocked kit is still just an expensive pile of shit if you don’t know WTF you’re doing with any of it.
A kit + adequate training and practice in using it is priceless.
This is the difference between a bell boy and a medic.
The former only carries the bags.
Don’t be a bell boy.
And you can get everything but the Rx items
(IV supplies, iodoform wound packing, syringes, needles, injectable lidocaine) from Amazon, at prices that would shame even Walmart, most days.
You could literally just go item by item on Amazon, and 90% of that kit could be ordered today for probably around $100, bag included, and be at your doorstep Wednesday.
For simple expendables, you should be taking $40 to the 99 Cent Store etc., about once a month, and leaving with a shopping cart full of basic items. They don’t go bad, and should be stocked as deep and wide as you can manage.
I’m still wrapping finger injuries currently with the metric fuckton of 1/2″ roller gauze I scored there in the late 1990s, still pristine white and wrapped in plastic inside the little assortment boxes.
Field tip: everything expendable packed in paper (gauze rolls and pads, bandaids, cotton swabs, etc.) will
a) un-adhese in a hot car over time, blowing your sterility, and
b) ought to be packed in whatever quantity you carry inside multiple ziplok bags from snack to quart size, so that on a rainy day, or if dropped in a puddle or stream, you don’t have a kit full of soggy contaminated mush.
c) bonus tip: sort your supplies into functional groups inside the big bag using the different colored zipper wallets online or hanging on the aisles at WallyMart.
E.g.:Airway supplies: Blue bag
Tools and Toys: Green
Burn supplies: Orange
Knock yourself out. They come in about 20 colors, and multiple sizes.
You can even make multiple trauma pouches with a TQ, QuickClot, wound seal, an Israeli bandage, a chest seal, and a coupe of pairs of nitrile gloves, and pack up 2-6, all the same color. Grab and go, or hand off to a partner.
Also: It’s your kit. Owen it. get a big fat Sharpie, and mark the outside with whatever you like to help you or someone else out.
You can even take Shoe Goo, and slap a luggage label to the outside of each pouch, with a contents list under clear vinyl, for quick checking.
d) Extra bonus tip: Unless you like brown gear, and a brown kit bag, you will securely bag the betadine, and every other liquid item, inside it’s own sturdy and sealable plastic bag/container/whatever.
A pint of iodine on everything is the end of that kit, and most of the contents.
It would not be too extreme to get a heavy-duty small Nalgene bottle from the Container Store, Bass Pro Shops, a high-end hiking supplier, etc., and then sealing your liquid items inside them in a bombproof fashion. You could even make do with Sched 40 PVC, with one end cap glued, and one press-fit. If it’s stupid but it works, it ain’t stupid.
The first time you, or some lunkhead, steps on your bag, and doesn’t blow 6 oz. of betadine onto everything, because you packed it like it was nitroglycerin, you’ve just saved your entire kit, and another $100, plus you’ll have that betadine when you need it. you’re welcome.
For the same reason, I put IV bags in my kit inside the bottle carriers by Condor, Gonex, Maxpedition, etc. My preference is the ones with the external pouch,
which holds a tubing admin set, and a full IV start kit including a set of gloves. I can grab the bag and toss it to someone else, and they’d have everything they need to start an IV in their hand in one grab.
If you put that kit bag inside a $2 Styrofoam picnic cooler (let alone anything sturdier and better made from Coleman, Igloo, Yeti, etc.) before dropping it in a trunk, it will last unattended for much longer. And in a pinch, you’ll have an extra cooler.
And jbryan, you’ve probably done it already, but you should have some permanent markers (Sharpie, laundry pen, etc,, in black and red, and maybe even a paint marker in white or yellow, plus TCCC/Triage cards, Write-In-The-Rain, or even plain old 3×5″ cards, to mark meds given, TQ placement, and basic pt. info and vital signs, plus chief complaint. Zip ties and safety pins mean you can attach them just about anywhere, and small spool of yellow nylon twine makes a convenient necklace for patients who’ve been “stripped and flipped”.
Sample military DD 1380 TCCC card:
Anyone can print one, white-out “sample” re-scan it, and keep that pdf on file to print new tags at will.
Or just find them online, and buy a stack.
Thanks. Will use as a standalone tomorrow.
YW. I’m a giver.
Sadly, this information is likely going to come in handy.
Add this too:
For med admin for those OTCs, either buy unit-dose (single person) packets in a box of 50-100, and put the packets into a snack-size ziplock; or carry a single plastic medicine cup so you can sort pills from the bottles without finger banging them, and dump all but the one or two you want back in the bottle without contaminating them with whatever’s on your grubby paws.
I do fear that many will acquire the parts and toys and then come up short on the requisite knowledge or training to use it properly.
+1 on the cards and WITR stuff. I’ve got a tan WITR notebook and red sharpie in the bag, but they escaped being photographed.
I figured as much…
A good read + good comments as usual!
Those on ranches or farms already have a lot of stuff which we treat our animals and pets with and are usable on folks as well.
Let me add one which we use a lot for cuts to stop bleeding: dust-on “wound powder,” such as Farnam’s Wonder Dust, Dust-On, or Quick-Clot. Get these at vet/horse/cattle supply outfits.
Tonight I am going to compile a source/vendor list for at least 90% of the pictured items and then some advice on acquiring whatever is left. I’ll have that done by morning and post it to my own blog at http://www.FreeAmericanNational.blogspot.com, in the comments section at AP and in these comments here, if they’re still open. I’ll have it done by the morning.
Some of this stuff is also FREE from your VA clinic.
This yr I had a tiny sebaceous cyst removed and they were going to throw away the scissors, tweezers and hemostat, I asked for them, since they don’t have the means of sterilizing at the clinic, big hospital is another story.(I’m always stocking up on these things since I also keep sets in my trauma kits on every pack)
They also gave me a blood pressure cuff for the asking, told them my headaches cause a rushing noise in my neck and they said to keep track of these episodes.
Arm and knee braces are easy to ask for too, if you’ve got a good Dr.
Try Chinook Medical:
I have gotten Israeli bandages and little pump spray bottles of local anesthetic from them.
You can get sutures, even practice sutures from Amazon.
For reading material, I thought the EMT Basic with my certification class was pretty good. Then I read my BIL’s Ski Patrol texts and learned what I really needed for emergency/trauma care in wild areas. Then there’s Medicine For The Outdoors by Auerbach, a bit deep into trauma and prepping for ER runs rather than in the bush, but an excellent study guide with many suggestions for related items.
Knowledge can be more important than tools, so make the most of your brain.
Lots of vg info here. Include TacBuddy in the conversation. TacBuddy.com.
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