Z Man: After Conservatism

“What comes next must be a clean break from northern conservatism.”

44 responses to “Z Man: After Conservatism

  1. From Vox Day:
    In the interest of developing a core Alternative Right philosophy upon which others can build.
    The Alt Right is of the political right in both the American and the European sense of the term. Socialists are not Alt Right. Progressives are not Alt Right. Liberals are not Alt Right. Communists, Marxists, Marxians, cultural Marxists, and neocons are not Alt Right. National Socialists are not Alt Right.
    The Alt Right is an ALTERNATIVE to the mainstream conservative movement in the USA that is nominally encapsulated by Russel Kirk’s 10 Conservative Principles, but in reality has devolved towards progressivism. It is also an alternative to libertarianism.
    The Alt Right is not a defensive attitude and rejects the concept of noble and principled defeat. It is a forward-thinking philosophy of offense, in every sense of that term. The Alt Right believes in victory through persistence and remaining in harmony with science, reality, cultural tradition, and the lessons of history.
    The Alt Right believes Western civilization is the pinnacle of human achievement and supports its three foundational pillars: Christianity, the European nations, and the Graeco-Roman legacy.
    The Alt Right is openly and avowedly nationalist. It supports all nationalisms and the right of all nations to exist, homogeneous and unadulterated by foreign invasion and immigration.
    The Alt Right is anti-globalist. It opposes all groups who work for globalist ideals or globalist objectives.
    The Alt Right is anti-equalitarian. It rejects the idea of equality for the same reason it rejects the ideas of unicorns and leprechauns, noting that human equality does not exist in any observable scientific, legal, material, intellectual, sexual, or spiritual form.
    The Alt Right is scientodific. It presumptively accepts the current conclusions of the scientific method (scientody), while understanding a) these conclusions are liable to future revision, b) that scientistry is susceptible to corruption, and c) that the so-called scientific consensus is not based on scientody, but democracy, and is therefore intrinsically unscientific.
    The Alt Right believes identity > culture > politics.
    The Alt Right is opposed to the rule or domination of any native ethnic group by another, particularly in the sovereign homelands of the dominated peoples. The Alt Right is opposed to any non-native ethnic group obtaining excessive influence in any society through nepotism, tribalism, or any other means.
    The Alt Right understands that diversity + proximity = war.
    The Alt Right doesn’t care what you think of it.
    The Alt Right rejects international free trade and the free movement of peoples that free trade requires. The benefits of intranational free trade is not evidence for the benefits of international free trade.
    The Alt Right believes we must secure the existence of white people and a future for white children.
    The Alt Right does not believe in the general supremacy of any race, nation, people, or sub-species. Every race, nation, people, and human sub-species has its own unique strengths and weaknesses, and possesses the sovereign right to dwell unmolested in the native culture it prefers.
    The Alt Right is a philosophy that values peace among the various nations of the world and opposes wars to impose the values of one nation upon another as well as efforts to exterminate individual nations through war, genocide, immigration, or genetic assimilation.
    TL;DR: The Alt Right is a Western ideology that believes in science, history, reality, and the right of a genetic nation to exist and govern itself in its own interests.

    The patron saint of conservatives, Russell Kirk, wrote: “The great line of demarcation in modern politics, Eric Voegelin used to point out, is not a division between liberals on one side and totalitarians on the other. No, on one side of that line are all those men and women who fancy that the temporal order is the only order, and that material needs are their only needs, and that they may do as they like with the human patrimony. On the other side of that line are all those people who recognize an enduring moral order in the universe, a constant human nature, and high duties toward the order spiritual and the order temporal.”

    This is no longer true, assuming it ever was. The great line of demarcation in modern politics is now a division between men and women who believe that they are ultimately defined by their momentary opinions and those who believe they are ultimately defined by their genetic heritage. The Alt Right understands that the former will always lose to the latter in the end, because the former is subject to change.

    • Shall I boil it down?
      1) Leave me alone. I will return the favor in kind.
      2) I shall trade with whom I wish, unhindered.
      3) I care more of what you do than what you think, wear, or hobby. Thoughts without action are unicorn farts.
      4) Favor not the rich man till you ascertain how they use it. Favor the poor man till you ascertain its self infliction.
      5) God –> Self –> Family –> Community –> Nation, in that order of deliverance.

      • Jimmy the Saint

        1a) Should you force me to be involved in your life against my desire to be left alone, understand that I will probably not be in favor of your particular brand of bullshit, even if I otherwise care nothing whatsoever about it.

    • Cuddles the Cage Fighter

      Vox is a man-child. He’s simply not mature enough to lead anything more serious than a comic book company.

      • that’s about it; though V’s day-to-day opinions on this-n’-that are worth reading. He always kills my comments at his site, and I’m not surprised: he pretends to race realism but his version of nationalism is NOT based on White racial identity but on a prop nation ideational structure: a revival of traditional Christianity.

        unfortunately, both Catholicism and the Protestant sects are terminally Jew’d. Not going to happen.

        • Hexo, very interesting observation. I do have to hand it to you, you sir have always given as good as you’ve gotten.

          Its unusual for a blogger to except the responsibility for most of the shit they shovel. You, Aesop, a couple others have always excepted the responsibility for your words, your deeds.

          Their is a difference, it’s called Honorable.

          In fairness I’ve left an awful lot of outstanding bloggers out.

          My observation of you, has changed over the years.

          I think that’s a good thing.


        • Name (required)

          Haxo, he sometimes kills your comments because your monomania is always tiresome and sometimes stupid.

    • Jimmy the Saint

      “The Alt Right is opposed to the rule or domination of any native ethnic group by another, particularly in the sovereign homelands of the dominated peoples. The Alt Right is opposed to any non-native ethnic group obtaining excessive influence in any society through nepotism, tribalism, or any other means.”

      – United Brotherhood of Feather-Not-Dot Indians, Local 573

  2. Well said, unfortunately is unadulterated horse shit piled deep. The alt right is as fucked up as the alt left, I would suggest their the exact same, but their spelled different, couldn’t possibly be the same ol loosers running the show.


  3. Everything for the White family. Nothing against the White family.

  4. “What comes next must be a clean break from northern conservatism.”

    Could’a stopped right…. “What comes next must be a clean break” … here.

  5. I like Z but fuck…he spills a lot of digital ink attacking libertarians right, left and center. All that for a group of people who are less than 1% of the voting public in most elections. But I guess with the sorry ass performance of “the right” over the past few decades, he must feel the need to find someone…anyone…worse than what passes for “the right” in this country.

  6. After conservatism? Is that like that thing they called The Social Contract? Or “when”, The Shit Hits The Fan? Consteetooshonal Representative Government?
    We ARE after conservatism.
    It love us lung time.
    It only existed as pigment in the illusion of shiny objects to distract the White Christian Men of The West into thinking they where not dis-enfranchised and being led slowly creeping towards the box cars in a brown replacement scheme called agenda 21.

    Whats that line from Lynrd Skynrd?
    “I can see the concrete slowly creeping…”

    Fuck that shit
    Up their arses!

  7. The Usual Suspect

    In the end, and some cases right now, we shall become
    as little groups of paratroops.
    Tribes>bands>groups>fire teams>platoons>small armies

    • Jimmy the Saint

      “In the end, and some cases right now, we shall become as little groups of paratroops.”

      Best make sure we’re not playing “Arnhem” or “Dien Bien Phu,” however.

  8. The white Christian family, the arch-nemesis of all communists, planet wide.

    The definition of communist is Jew.

    A personal history of the journey to the Ancient Faith of Christianity.

  9. The recent Kirsch Crisis is the Rothschild’s man, a Jew, leading the government of Ukraine to push harder for a war between Ukrainian Christians and Russian Christians.

    The real war should be against the Jew. The Rothschilds must be removed from their control of most of European banking and all other financial institutions they own or control.

    That must happen.

    • the Institutions themselves must be killed. If you have a Central Bank, sooner or later the Eternal Jew will seize control.

      that’s Jackson’s greatness. He killed the Second National Bank, and kept America out of the hands of Rothschild, Warburg, and Seif…

      …until 1913. And then came


      • Johnny Paratrooper

        Correct. And after 1913-14 came nationalist vs communist fights all over the world.

        Not one was won by team free force.

  10. Original article could be WFB-era National Review. Completely ignores the experimental track record of previous government attempts. Assumes humans are blank slates with no instincts, that can be completely programmed by government employees while children. Same assumptions as the USSR claimed to have made. New Soviet-American man. This is your enemy. Doesn’t matter much what your enemy believes he is doing; it’s his actions which alter reality, not his beliefs.

  11. You’re all a fucking waste.

    • Jimmy the Saint

      Erroneous! Untrue! As our host has often noted, everyone has a future in biofuels.

    • Blazing Apostle

      Thanks gringo, for chiming in with your usual well thought out, cogent, insightful, and pertinent comment. Just curious – do you have your own island, that you are warlord over, because… oh nevermind.
      Do the blog a favor and just keep your infantile posts to yourself. The grown ups here already know what you “think”.
      Some people’s fucking kids…

  12. November 22,1963. An announcement was made over the public address system in my elementary school. The president,JFK, was dead. Assassinated. Along with many of my classmates ,we thought this was the end of the USA. It turns out we were correct. Folks who bought into the USA,shining beacon of light,have been deceived. Wake the fuck up and realize this experiment was hijacked and perverted decades ago. What replaces it and comes out the other side?
    Anyone tells you they know. Tell them they are full of shit.
    No one is coming to save your sorry ass.
    JFK was unavailable for comment. It is difficult to speak when your skull has a fist sized hole in it.


      True that. It all started when JFK was whacked. No one believed the “official narrative.” I see where one of the principals involved in JFK’s murder just passed away. I believe he is lying in state in the Capitol Rotunda as I write this.

    • Kennedy was murdered by the Soviets. It was a bold plan launched by a humiliated, and very angry, Khrushchev. On the way back to Washington after the killing, Johnson was told by the Soviets on board Air Force One to begin a 50 year program to get America ready for communism or else he would see Kennedy that same night. Then he took the oath of office. He launched the War on Poverty (sounds Soviet to me) and the Great Society (sounds Soviet to me). Both were total f’in’ failures (sounds Soviet to me as well). He was so disgusted by what he has done, he only ran for office one time. But here we are. This had to take 50 years so as to be a soft takeover without too much violence. All those that remember the FUSA prior to 1963 are in God’s waiting room today or already with him. The kids today? Well they love the idea of communism. Call me wrong, but cui bono? (Sorry, I don’t know the past tense.)

  13. I to like “Z”,,,,, he’s one man, with an one Opinion. While his intellect may have practical application in some manner, nothing changed here, today. That’s the amusing part.

    These bloggers talk all day, everyday, and not a thing at my local level changes. I know amazing!.

    Academics, or street smarts, I’ll take the street smart guy, I just understand where their coming from.


  14. White People are so f**king weak…

    The problem with White People isn’t the {{{Jews}}}. The problem with White People… is White People.

    It’s about the only thing they are good at coming together for.

  15. Z-Man:

    “…and maybe even the Enlightenment.”

    no maybe:

    Jews, both Red Tikkun Olas and Zio-neoconz, better hope Israehell is still on the map when push comes to shove. Otherwise,

    I fear for their future.

  16. Scott halloween

    ….where we aren’t hated for our skin color, or sex.

  17. Zman is imho, just another cucked wannabe zio-communist shill..no
    different than Bucky Jr.

    Mike Piper reports on William Buckley’s Jewish roots & recounts the battles between Buckley’s Neocon infested National Review and Willis Carto’s America First Spotlight

    “..The new conservatism was not new at all. In fact, Buckley’s “contribution” to conservatism was introduction of a host of longtime Trotskyite (Marxist) communists as voices for “modern conservative thought.”

    Foremost among them, James Burnham, only 20 years earlier, had been Jewish Bolshevik Leon Trotsky’s “chief spokesman” in American “intellectual” circles. Then, during World War II, Burnham worked for the Zionist- and Trotskyite-infested Office of Strategic Services, forerunner of the CIA, which later recruited Buckley while he was at Yale. After the war, when Soviet strongman (and Trotsky foe) Josef Stalin began moving against the Zionists and the Trotskyites (who were, in most respects, one and the same) Burnham became a so-called “anti-communist liberal.”

    The term “anti-communist liberal”—in the Cold War—was effectively a euphemism for describing Trotskyites in America. But, led by Burnham and Buckley, the Trotskyites began transmogrifying, through the venue of National Review, into what ultimately are the now-infamous “neo-conservatives” of today.”

    If i want the REAL history of things I’ll read books by M.S. King and documentaries by Dennis Wise and Tobias Bratt.

    NWO: Communism by the Backdoor Official Trailer

    The REAL Roosevelts: An Omitted History: What PBS & Ken Burns Didn’t Tell You

    Killing America: A 100 Year Murder: 40 Historical Wounds Bill O’Reilly Didn’t Write About

    NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

  18. Here’s the 1st part of Dennis’s latest documentary:

    NWO : Communism By The Backdoor pt1

    Of course there are some here who would call the above,
    ‘hate speech’ which is absolute bullshit..there is NO such
    thing as ‘hate speech’.

    NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

  19. Jimmy the Saint

    “JFK was unavailable for comment. It is difficult to speak when your skull has a fist sized hole in it.”

    Not sure how his standard response of gobbling a handful of pills, banging an East German spy, and getting outmaneuvered by Khrushchev really would have changed anything, though.

  20. Stopped reading after Jew was called a great paleocon.

  21. Old Gray Wolf

    The best part of dmv gringo ran down the crack of his mama’s ass and left a brown stain on the sheet…

    See, buddy, I can troll, too.

  22. Whatever comes next I sure hope it isn’t another damn government…

    Get rid of the “suit and tie” class and there wouldn’t be any need for one.

    Think about it.

    • The Walkin' Dude

      Bingo. Some people exist only by leeching off others’ toils. They threaten you with door kickers if you don’t pay up. Take out their door kickers and they scurry away like the rats they are. They have no power without the threat of violence from yet someone else. It wasn’t a suit and tie that shot the old fart at his home in Maryland over arbitrary edicts.

    • Johnny Paratrooper

      Everyone I have ever known who wore a suit and tie since graduating from college is a useless cuck or a globalist who wears the American flag.

  23. I thought that article was a waste of time. Too much verbiage. Bill Buckley was a straw man CIA plant on the right side of their equation. Fuck Ayn Rand. She was a Jew prophet from Soviet Russia. Prep like crazy whilst you still have to live in this Jew paradigm. Can’t last much longer. The debt is 23 trillion plus unfunded mandates of 300 trillion, plus we have run out of cheap energy. Fracking is a fraud. The EROEI is close to 1:1. Whiting Petroleum and Continental and all the other Mofo’s are losing their asses and covering it up with new stock and more bonds. There is no other energy source that is here now or on the horizon to rescue this sinking ship.

  24. We’re either with “them” or we’re with the terrorists.

  25. Name (required)

    Zman thinks Richard Spencer and his Nazis are of the right. How far Left is Zman if he looks to the Right and sees socialists?