Rlly?

VD calls BS.

How does Iran benefit by such an attack?

Who does benefit?

Inquiring minds want to know.

78 responses to “Rlly?

  1. The author lost all credibility when he claimed there were no WMDs found in Iraq. This was an excellent example of confirmation bias.

    • Shinmen Takezo

      Other than some junk and scraps of some program abandoned years before, exactly what was found to justify an invasion and war? Everything that was found was discarded, buried or tossed in the Euphrates river many years before any talk of war or an invasion.

      You just sucked up all the mili-tard’ drool that was being spoon fed to you because it was an opportunity to wave the flag and scream ‘Murica’!”

      • Shinmen Takezo

        The chemical weapons found in Gulf War I were in fact supplied in whole by the US government to be used against the Iranians in the Iraq/Iran war–and they were in fact used.

        During Gulf War I –we discovered the remainder of these weapoins and blew up the depot where they were stored.

        After Gulf War I, Saddam dumped his whole program–burried and ditched what means of production he had… this is the shit that was found in Gulf War II… which was waged against Iraq, because Saddam wanted to stop trading oil in US ponzi-chits, bot becasue he had WMD’s.

        Any white paper issued by the CIA has the same weight that shit-stained toilet paper bears.

      • Over 5000 chemical warheads isn’t “scraps of a former program” it’s very clearly violation of the ceasefire that ended the first gulf war. That was one of many such violations. But hey, don’t let actual facts get in the way of your bias driven narrative.

      • Over 5000 chemical warheads is a far cry from “scraps of some program”. In addition to that violation of the ceasefire agreement there were others. They were building long range drones that we’re prohibited as well. Some test flights were conducted with drones outfitted with spray rigs to dispense chemical agents. There were literally a dozen or more violations of the standing agreements. Even the countries that opposed the invasion agreed that Iraq had ongoing wmd programs.

      • There was evidence later – ignored by the gov’t – brought to light by a retired SOCOM 1-star IIRC about rapidly terminal cancers that claimed people who’d handled the chem sites & brought the sprayers and other dissemination hardware back for analysis. While OIF was a stupid waste of an operation, the evidence of the chem warfare capability was solid. Doesn’t justify what they engineered as an excuse, but the people who exploited those sites are just as dead.

    • Plankton67

      Jake, chem weapons were found in Iraq, here is something to back you up. See https://www.cia.gov/library/reports/general-reports-1/gulfwar/whiteper/index.htm

      For the TL;DR crowd;
      “This paper and the accompanying documents do not contradict previous intelligence warnings before Desert Shield/Desert Storm: that Iraq was likely to have chemical warfare (CW) munitions in the theater of operations and that Iraqi CW munitions might not be marked. It also does not change our judgment that Iraq did not use chemical weapons during Desert Storm.”

      • There are plenty of sources that can confirm the story. If anyone is willing to look for it it’s there. Unfortunately not many people are willing to research the other side of the issues. Most just stop when they find sources that agree with their worldview.

  2. “How does Iran benefit by such an attack?
    Who does benefit?”

    Spot On, but the Traitors in DC will have a answer that suits there needs.

    3..2..1 Bolton Speech

    • Jimmy the Saint

      “How does Iran benefit by such an attack?” is a very difficult question to answer – you have to have a very detailed understanding of what their strategic goals are to know whether any given act is beneficial to those ends or not. Keep in mind also that Iran has had a lot of domestic unrest over the last decade or so – thus, such an attack could be the result of one internal faction moving against another. Further, the whole Middle East is a crazy quilt of conflicting alliances in multiple ongong conflicts, so the attacks also have to be viewed in that context as well. There’s also the fact that Iran has a theocratic government which may act based on motivations other than political/economic ones.

      There may well be a benefit to Iran, or a group within Iran, or an Iranian ally/proxy. It may have been someone else trying to frame Iran. It may also have been someone with no apparent active role in any of the conflicts just stirring up shit to hide a strategic move elsewhere.

      Motive isn’t always obvious, people don’t always act rationally, and external factors can force decisions that are otherwise nonsensical (a classic example from history – Mussolini bungling his invasion of Greece, drawing Germany into the Balkans, and thereby fucking up the time table for Barbarossa [and Mussolini fucking up in Africa, drawing in the Germans again, pulling highly mobile forces away from Barbarossa].)

      • NorthGunner

        “.. Further, the whole Middle East is a crazy quilt of conflicting alliances in multiple ongong conflicts, so the attacks also have to be viewed in that context as well..”

        Just another logical reason to NOT get involved militarily or diplomatically with ANY of the ‘players’ there.

        And that definitely includes the warmongering walled terrorist apartheid ethnostate and corporate Rothschild’s colony known as israel!!

        Cut ALL ‘welfare’ and cut those insane fuckers loose asap!!

        They’re NOT worth going to war for and dying for!

        NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

    • Plankton67

      This whole event glows to high heaven.
      -Gulf of Tonkin
      The NSA admits that it lied about what really happened in the Gulf of Tonkin incident in 1964 … manipulating data to make it look like North Vietnamese boats fired on a U.S. ship so as to create a false justification for the Vietnam war.
      -The CIA admits that it hired Iranians in the 1950′s to pose as Communists and stage bombings in Iran in order to turn the country against its democratically-elected prime minister.
      -The former Italian Prime Minister, an Italian judge, and the former head of Italian counterintelligence admit that NATO, with the help of the Pentagon and CIA, carried out terror bombings in Italy and other European countries in the 1950s and blamed the communists, in order to rally people’s support for their governments in Europe in their fight against communism.
      – In 1960, American Senator George Smathers suggested that the U.S. launch “a false attack made on Guantanamo Bay which would give us the excuse of actually fomenting a fight which would then give us the excuse to go in and [overthrow Castro]“.
      -Official State Department documents show that, in 1961, the head of the Joint Chiefs and other high-level officials discussed blowing up a consulate in the Dominican Republic in order to justify an invasion of that country. The plans were not carried out, but they were all discussed as serious proposals.
      -As admitted by the U.S. government, recently declassified documents show that in 1962, the American Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on a plan to blow up AMERICAN airplanes (using an elaborate plan involving the switching of airplanes), and also to commit terrorist acts on American soil, and then to blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an invasion of Cuba.
      -In 1963, the U.S. Department of Defense wrote a paper promoting attacks on nations within the Organization of American States – such as Trinidad-Tobago or Jamaica – and then falsely blaming them on Cuba.

      To wrap up, here is this… but check out the link at the end for MOAR (with many links to official documents)!
      -A U.S. Congressional committee admitted that – as part of its “Cointelpro” campaign – the FBI had used many provocateurs in the 1950s through 1970s to carry out violent acts and falsely blame them on political activists.

      https://washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/41-admitted-false-flag-attacks.html

  3. Iran threatened to do this for years. They attacked the tankers, or their chickens came home to roost. Either way, it is still Iran’s fault.

    • NorthGunner

      Mudboy,

      You must be new around here?
      Cognitive dissonance much pal or do you enjoy
      the ‘brain meds’ that the jew’s owned and controlled media
      pump between your ears every time you turn on the jewtube?

      Wakey wakey!! Red pill time is here for you
      IF you’re not afraid to encounter the truth….


      You, in your current state.


      The message that you’ve been constantly fed ever
      since your parents offered you up to the sacrificial
      mind altars called ‘public schools’ (including kindergarten).


      How the internationalist jews and their supporting and enabling ‘good goys’
      see you and other American sheepul.

      https://i2.wp.com/thoth3126.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Mossad-israel-terror-sionismo-khazar-nwo.jpg?ssl=1
      The internationalist jews that REALLY call the shots behind the scenes…
      ooops..you’re not supposed to see or understand that!


      The internationalist jewish power lobby that REALLY controls America.


      So simple it doesn’t need an explanation!

      https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/jews-and-the-military-jpg.486759/
      Who our military REALLY serves and fights and dies for..since 1913!

      A couple of videos too:

      The Jews Who Rule America
      http://brothernathanaelchannel.com/watch_video.php?v=HBW8OY5SK11O
      Brother Nathanael IS a former jew, so he’s able to call a spade
      a spade where jews are concerned.

      How the World Was Fooled #4 – Dennis Wise
      [video src="https://ia802808.us.archive.org/29/items/HowTheWorldWasFooled1/HowTheWorldWasFooled4.mp4" /]
      Dr. Alan Sabrowsky, Director of Studies at the
      US Army War College, 2010 (Dr. Sabrowsky IS
      jewish btw)

      Now IF you can process all the truth above, you might..just
      might be able to escape the mental plantation the internationalist
      Globohomo pushing jewish parasites.

      But, if you begin simply emotionally flailing about mentally
      screaming “bu..bu…is..israel is our best friend and ally..the
      jew’s ARE the ‘chosen people’..muh pastor said so when
      we passed the plate for ‘love offerings’ to israel!!…Chump
      say’s israel and jews are our ‘Greatest Friends!’ and the
      media says so…the media and gov wouldn’t lie to US!!”
      the probability is that you will continue taking the internationalist
      jew’s ‘blue pills’ and continue to be…this!

      red pill of truth and reality
      blue pill of indoctrinated and trained mental slavery

      The choice is yours.

      NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

      • Obvious profit centers are, as is your lack of sanity.

        • NorthGunner

          Mudboy,

          Reality and it’s acceptance hurt and sting that
          much?….

          Yup, you’re definitely up to your eyeballs
          in cognitive dissonance, but that won’t
          stop you from offering up one of your
          son’s to the Internationalist jewish
          Globohomo ‘elite’ in their ‘never-ending’ wars
          or possibly stop you from throwing your own
          life away for them…

          Sad that..but that’s your choice..
          As for sanity, I thankfully still have mine and
          a sense of humor (I even laugh at myself),
          your’s is obviously questionable..but what’s
          to be expected from a cucked NPC?….

          NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

  4. just add violence

    I see the Israeli’s are up to no good again ..

    • NorthGunner

      Yup, just like in 1967 with the USS Liberty.

      Some things NEVER change…
      Just like their contrived false flag on 9/11:

      How the World Was Fooled #4 – Dennis Wise
      [video src="https://ia802808.us.archive.org/29/items/HowTheWorldWasFooled1/HowTheWorldWasFooled4.mp4" /]
      (Btw, Dr. Alan Sabrowsky IS jewish, so it took an
      unbelievable amount of bravery for him to state this!).

      Jewtube HAS removed it btw – too much truth – so please
      feel free to download it, save it and share it far and wide..
      maybe even re-upload it there, HONK! HONK!

      NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

  5. Does anyone else hear faint echoes of the Gulf of Tonkin?

    • NorthGunner

      That and the screaming of the wounded aboard
      the USS Liberty!

      NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

  6. read this at 03:00 this morning, my initial thought reflects the title, exactly who benefits from this. Who benefits from a limpit mine attack on four ships two weeks ago.

    Now their saying the Hunti’s? Are responsible, that they did it after pickling a rocket into Saudi airports.

    Jake, refresh my memory, I don’t recall any WMDS found their.

    Dirt

  7. NorthGunner

    I wouldn’t put it past the izzys to use one of their own German built submarines to torpedo the tanker, it’s straight out of the mossad handbook.

    Create a false flag and let their owned and controlled media spin the tale so the American sheepul act in the way that they desire.

    What they fear is that people like me, SemperFi 0321, and others AREN’T buying it and that we’re on to them and their methods.

    More people are waking up to their true nature and goals every day.

    NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

    • Was active duty USN for over 20 years.

      Been to the PG a couple times-the desert too.

      The Iranians haven’t forgotten about the Sahand and Sabalan.

      They’re savvy enough to know not to fuck with us or they’ll get their nose bloody again.

      The Israelis on the other hand. Never trust them.

      USS Liberty.

      • NorthGunner

        Right on Ragnar!

        I have never trusted them since my late Father
        told me about what happened to the Liberty
        and her men when I was a teenager.

        Here’s something that will REALLY blow your mind:

        How the World Was Fooled #4 – Dennis Wise
        [video src="https://ia802808.us.archive.org/29/items/HowTheWorldWasFooled1/HowTheWorldWasFooled4.mp4" /]
        Dr. Alan Sabrowsky Is jewish btw, took mega
        amounts of courage for him to state this.

        Let’s see,…

        Bombing of the King David Hotel in’47
        Multiple firebombings in Cairo against us
        and the Brit’s in ’57
        Attack on the Liberty in ’67

        Nope, don’t trust them and wouldn’t go overseas
        to piss on them if they were on fire!

        NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

      • just add violence

        I can’t wait until nations start attacking Israel. Man I gonna celebrate that day.

        USS Liberty was an act of war by the Israeli’s and it’s nothing short of a treasonous crime that country hasn’t ben levelled.

        If the entire US military somehow ever collectively gets that Israel and the jewish lobby inside the US did 911 it’s gonna be fun watching those kikes go down for it.

      • actually, Iran is fking w ‘Murka:

        Iran no longer accepts dollars for oil.

        same as Iraq and then Libya. See

        a pattern here?

    • DWEEZIL THE WEASEL

      NG: They may hate us for exposing facts and telling the truth, but they do not fear us. They are way too powerful and have control of the (((MSM))), the Romans 13-robot Evangelical Zionist megachurches, and legions of useful idiot cucks, sheeple, and normies. If I were to post a LTE in the Daily Fish Wrap about this obvious, probably izzy-engineered false flag, I would be crucified by the local cabal of Zionist born-agains. That is why I just shut up, let them rant, and make lists. Bleib ubrig.

    • What they fear is that people like me, SemperFi 0321, and others AREN’T buying it and that we’re on to them and their methods..
      ROTFLMAO…I hope you really don’t believe that man…The only way the would ever fear you is if you had a nuke in your arsenal or a 100k army behind you and you were in command…Hate to break it to you but they laugh at guys like us…Sad That…

      • NorthGunner

        So Lineman are you content to remain this –

        Doesn’t say much except, “Baaaaaaa, I–ll beee a goooood
        sheeepieeee..I–‘ll oooo-beyyyyyy and serr–vve..juuuust
        maaaake suu-uuuure that m’-mmmy Do-ominoes isss on
        ti-iiime and I-iiii get m-mmmy “sppor-rrrstsbaaaal”…D-dddon’t
        f-ffforget thh-that freeeeeee 2 liter bo-ootle of soda t-ttoooo!”

        There’s cucked…
        and then there’s TOTALLY simp cucked!!

        When you find your testicles, come back outside
        to play, ok…that is IF you find them? (try checking
        in wifey or mummsey’s purse first)

        NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

        • Says the boi too scared to come to the DSR such a tough guy online but when it comes actually having to face your opponent well then you just don’t have the guts or the balls…Sad That…
          You know what I will even pay for your trip out there so you can’t use money as an excuse for your cowardice…

          • NorthGunner

            Unlike you, Lineman, SOME of us do work to
            support ourselves as MEN and don’t have the
            time or finances to pick up and go for mini-vaca’s
            several days distant from our AO’s.

            My priorities are:
            Save up/purchase needed preps (yeah, good luck on that,lol)
            Make sure that such things as ‘roof over my
            head, food, bills and other necessaries are accounted for.
            Add a few more guns and BLOAT for them and the current
            ones owned.

            Several people at where I work are going to be
            taking time off during the time the DSR happens.
            They put in for such well over a year ago. My
            chance of getting time off as well is about the
            same probability of an icy speheroid’s survivability
            on Mercury’s surface.
            So, while they’re gone, I and others ‘pick up the slack’
            and we get paid overtime for it — which I appreciate
            and will use for primary expenses as needed.

            Thanks for the offer but I WON’T ride on another’s
            efforts or coattails, not how I was raised. I earn
            and work for my own way/passage, I’m not a
            grifter, a moocher or looter.

            Hope that you all have a great time and
            experience at the DSR this year regardless!

            NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

          • Old Gray Wolf

            Northgunner, here’s your chance! A free trip! No reason not to go, unless the sexbot is gonna cut you off or something. Gonna be good food, shooting, and good times, or so I hear. Lineman really wants to meet you, although for the life of me I can not determine why….

            • Because Brother this online shit is just that shit I want to meet these shit talkers and see if they have it in them to talk shit in person…Ive yet to find one that has the balls to do it…I have found lots of decent people online and they are even more decent f2f so it is what it is…

        • northern gunner only a fool underestimates their enemy. Are you that guy?

          Also a reel torpedo would have sent that floating bomb to the bottom pronto. I’m reading surface vessel attack.

          Dirt

          • NorthGunner

            Not a fool, and definitely not a fool for accepting
            the International Globohomo’s ‘media’ lies.

            James Perloff 2019 “War and Deception”

            James is jewish btw, definitely one of the honest
            good jews, like Aaron Russo and Benjamin Friedman
            were and Brother Nathanael is.

            NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

  8. Donny Corleone

    “Conservative” cucks and the Hannity types will be calling for blood. They fall for it Every. Damn. Time.
    Israel can’t have peace break out in the Middle East. That would be bad for business and the Israeli narrative.
    Like I said; Every. Damn. Time.

  9. Grenadier1

    You guys..
    You are letting your OWN bias cloud your assessment.
    There is no need to go all the way to Tel Aviv to see who is behind this.
    You don’t have to go any further than Langley and Foggy bottom.

    This has Deep state written all over it.

    • SemperFi, 0321

      Bingo.
      Am always amazed by the comments, people trying to lay blame on some other foreign power when in reality most of this stems from our own secret circles. Again, the denial from Americans is mind numbing, most cannot accept we are the evil empire, stirring up wars around the globe for fun and profit. Oh, and don’t forget freedumb too!
      Smedley Butler warned of this almost 100 yrs ago and it’s only gotten worse thru denial and cognitive dissonance. We’re far from being the innocent victim.

    • Shinmen Takezo

      Precisely. If ‘torpedoes’ were fired at two tankers, they likely came from Israeli submarines that are kept on patrol off of Iran on a permanent basis.

      Remember the first rule: if something comes out of the mouth of a uniformed dope, or any other kind of government employee… it’s a complete lie.

    • Some people can’t see the forest because of the trees Brother…

    • NorthGunner

      One DOESN’T get more ‘Deep State’ than
      the Rothschild’s and their related ilk – CIA,
      mossad and ‘foggy bottom’ are all owned
      by them, just like America is since 1913.

      NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

    • Donny Corleone

      Grenadier1, I don’t doubt for a second that the deep state is involved. Who do you think is pulling their strings?
      I surely don’t think that I have all of the answers, but maybe if we discuss this we can get closer to the truth.
      One thing which I do know for certain is that things are not as they appear.

      • Grenadier1

        No one pulls their strings. Everyone needs to divorce themselves from the idea that this all converges at a single small group of people. It does not. “THEY” are just as sectarian as we are. It’s not an octopus, it’s a hydra. Each head has its own agenda.

  10. Alfred Barnes

    It was the Saudi’s tanker that took a hit a month or so ago. OPEC is hitting their own vessels to prop up the price of oil. Follow the money.

    • NorthGunner

      Sure they did…
      And Heather Heyer will rise from the ground
      as the spokeswhale for fubba wubba’s being
      beautiful and healthy!

      All the media outlets say sooo!!

      We return you to your regularly scheduled reality…

      NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

  11. Dirk, I was there. Know two EOD soldiers who earned the purple heart for chemical weapons exposure when chem rounds we’re picked up in roadside bombs. Dealt with it on the Intel side and read a lot more about it in the national level reporting. But you will believe what you want to believe, evidence be damned.

    • kypartisan

      there were no nukes. there were no mass stockpiles of WMDs anywhere in the country. the war was nonsense.

      • Over 5000 chemical warheads were found. That was just one of many violations of the ceasefire that ended the 91 gulf war.

    • Jake, I suspect that the chemical weapons that they had were the artillery rounds we gave them to use against the Iranians in that previous war.

    • HI Jake, interesting, I guess my Observation is this, their are chem rounds, and then their are WMD.

      Jake I wasn’t their. My long range shooting partners retired Col, SF, 26 years. He’s been out roughly ten years now.

      His job in Iraq was to command SF multi national units hunting Kuds forces coming into Iraq, his folks killed thousands of the Iranians, after they entered Iraq.

      Anyway, I hope your associates have recovered, and thank you for the info, and your service.

      Welcome aboard here on WRSA. Their are no sides here, it’s a fuckimg free for all.

      Dirt

      • Chem is WMD. That is the semantic game that the bastards played.

        Now how Saddam got those chem rounds is another question. My guess is a circuitous route back in the old Iran/Iraq war days.

        • Nothing circuitous about it. Rumsfeld quarterbacked the whole thing under Reagan to better kill Iranians and Kurds for the bonus shot. WMD s were a red herring. The war was illegal under US and international law WMDs or no.
          By that rational any nation possessing one or all of the triad of NBC should be invaded and occupied , including Fusa.
          This whole bullshit is the final flailing to enforce the debtbux ponzi. Will they have the nuts to start in on Iran? They are desperate enough, but Persians have long memories. Just ask the captain of USS Vincennes.

        • CA, see my previous comment above. It wasn’t just some chem artillery rounds. (And, yeah, the semantics were bullshit, it was stupid, and the MIC loved every minute of it, they like it, they love it, they want some more of it. No dispute there from this quarter.)

        • firing a center-fire cartridge is a chemical rxn… oh my…

          know quite a few people who invaded iraq after patriot act. some were like fuck them anyway until the ROE changed and they started having to act like police, some were like ‘WTF?!’ and seriously pissed, some were like ‘i just did my job and will not debate’.

          such a big let down after no WMDs or whatever the prop the US gov built up. lots of integrity lost and honor.

          some pretty interesting stories of the invasion though, e.g. jdams, pallets of cash, the night, etc.

      • SemperFi, 0321

        “Thank you for your service”
        That takes the cake for smarmy comments, heard it again today at a VA appm’t, it’s how the masses make themselves feel good for not having to go stand on the yellow footprints and get ordered around. And especially from another vet. At what point do you stop playing the PC game?
        If another vet said “fuck you Jarhead” it would be more sincere.

      • Check the definition of WMDs. Chemical weapons are WMDs.

      • another SF retard who doesn’t impress me in the least

        anyone who is friends with a cop can suck my asshole and then be shot in the face

        a kernel?

        BFD

        fuck that parasitic loser in a girl scout bonnet

  12. Crude was unable to sustain it’s summer run in. This will be a win win. Go Murica! Teach these towelheaded fucks a lesson. Shit maybe they were involved in 9/11 and um Sandy Hoax too.

  13. There’s more than one way for OPEC to get oil prices higher….

  14. Remember the USS Liberty.

  15. Just another serf

    Lots of speculation about who could be behind these attacks. Saudis, our ally Israel, ISIS, the CIA, ISIL. But isn’t it possible that it could be the gays? They have a real complaint against the Iranians and it’s Gay pride month.

    • just add violence

      “our ally Israel”

      Man you’ve got a lot to learn.

      Please read NorthGunner’s posts on here and get up to speed.

      • the murkins have to be culled from the gene pool

        they are by far the dumbest fucking idiots on the planet

        murka must burn to the ground

        all it’s peepul must die

        every last one

        it’s the only way

        tfA-t has once again foretold the future

        ALL HAIL tfA-t

  16. Alfred E. Neuman

    Reblogged this on FOR GOD AND COUNTRY.

  17. The US Govt has ZERO credibility.
    Past Admin,this Admin and Future Admins as i can see.
    ZEeeeeRo
    Full stop.

  18. FUCK

    THE

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    IN

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    A

    RAZOR

    BLADE

  19. Iran attacks oil tankers in Gulf of O-man with erectile dysfunction torpedoes!

  20. Even if it WAS the Iranians I DGAF. The attacked ship was Japanese. Iran isn’t a threat to my country. None of my nations business and definitely not worth even one life.