Gear Review of the P-14 Gen II+ Night Vision Monocular

Deft Systems sends.

Open thread on night-vision gear.

27 responses to “Gear Review of the P-14 Gen II+ Night Vision Monocular

  1. Probably the most versatile piece of night vision gear available is the PVS-14. I prefer the single tube over dual tube as it better allows the user to continually assess ambient light levels, one of the keys to successful low light operations. Someone will chime in and say that you can look around the image with your peripheral vision and while true most people, even some very experienced people, won’t do that. It’s very easy to get sucked into the image the device gives you, even with a monocular. Many times in training I found it best to close my night vision equipped eye even when using a monocular to better understand the existing light levels. A monocular also allows you to instantly react to unexpected white light. Dual tube devices don’t allow that. Size, weight and cost are also about half that of a dual tube device. You would be much better served by 2 monocular than a single binocular device. Last point for now is that the better Gen 2 of today are about on par with some of the Gen 3 of the 90s and for the price that’s pretty damn good.

  2. Light amplification, like the PVS-14, is pretty good if it’s Gen III+, thermal is much better.

    https://www.opticsplanet.com/torrey-pines-logic-t20-3-5-5x-optical-zoom-thermal-imager-w-30mm-scope-mount.html

    • Quite a few limitations for thermal. Not great for general observation and they can’t see through a pane of glass. I’d take night vision for general utility if I had to choose one over the other.

      We have thermal optics at my civilian job and the limitations are far greater than most seem to understand. I’ll add some thermal optics at some point but so far quality thermal is multiples more expensive than good night vision.

      • NorthGunner

        Thermal DOES have it’s applications and advantages over night vision,..especially when one may potentially be dealing with Ebola ridden darkies that are flooding over the Southern ‘not-border’ from Calizuela to the Rio Grande/Brownsville area.

        Was absolutely stunned that the daily fish wrap actually had this on the bottom of the front page:

        “Record number of African migrants coming to Mexican-US border” Monday, June 17th, 2019
        Havasunews.com

        As,has been mentioned elsewhere, they’re being brought into San Antonio TX and then fanning out across the country WITHOUT any health care screening.

        Vincent James covers it on his yt channel here:

        So for night time ops in the future especially if one’s potentially going to encounter Ebola-Chan’s ‘Walking Dead’, go with thermal – darkies (African and otherwise) will show up on it – and remember to have a flamethrower handy for proper disposal afterwards.

        NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

      • ^^ What he said.
        BTDT for years. Thermal has some benefits, but also drawbacks.
        We used both, because neither one was flaweless. Combined is better than either/or, but one of them is better than neither of them.
        Start with IR, and add thermal as and when your budget will allow.

        The big difference is, there’s no such thing as thermal target designation,
        Unlike with IR.
        And IR sees through glass at both ends, unlike thermal.
        (You would also be surprised to find out that rocks and trees produce huge thermal targets.)

        Thermal is great for spotting 4-legged problems, which aren’t going to do anything to defeat it or avoid it.
        IR shines (literally) better for the two-legged variety.

    • NorthGunner

      Cool!!

      Will have to check that out, thanks!

      NorthGunner – The Truth Is It’s OWN Defense!

  3. Night vision gear, coupled with an IR laser on your primary long arm turns you into One Shot Paddy against those lacking that level of tech.
    Especially at night.

    Point and click. Game over, from muzzle to BZO distance.

    Add a good can, and at range, it’s like you were never there, except for the dead guy bleeding onto the ground.

    But if you’re going to get NV, top-quality only.
    Gen II+ or better, with recent manufacture dates.
    Go big or go home.
    You can’t save enough on second- or third-rate junk to make up for the horrible quality, and the amount of fail you’re paying for.

    And people that sell that crap shouldn’t stand behind their products. they should stand in front of them. With live ammo.
    The William Tell apple-off-their-head challenge at 100m would be a good weed out for folks peddling shoddy sh&t.

  4. My only experience is with (as I recall) AN/PVS-5 (gen 3 tube?). On guard duty in the field, you could walk up to 6 feet behind an officer, say “Good evening, sir”, and watch them jump out of their skin. Good times.

    • My understanding is that the 5 was only made in Gen 2.

      • Yes, but the PVS-5s give you driveable and flyable depth perception.

        For a treat, watch a thunderstorm with NVGs.
        The lightning is nonstop constant, for hours.
        A lit cigarette, even shielded, becomes a road flare.

      • A very good Gen II

    • My Army Guard aviation unit was pioneering using PVS-5s for flying helicopters, in the very early 1980s. They sucked compared to what came next. When we upgraded to AH-64s in 1987, the Blackhawk crews moved up to ANVIS, with two Gen III tubes. We flew a Blackhawk up to Roanoke and picked them up directly from ITT. Sixteen pairs at about $15,000.00 each at the time. That included the special visor shield with the mounting bracket and wiring and the velcro attached battery pack for the back of the helmet. We had three Blackhawks to use as necessary.

      Light amplifying NVGs have limits, too. For example, you can easily hide behind brush, while a thermal sight will see you plain as day.

      I have a Torrey Pines Logic thermal sight, from about 4 years ago, I consider it very useful. The newer ones have major improvements and cost less.

  5. just dropping the here; remember how Jade Helm labeled TX as a Hostile State? A white boy dressed in tactical just shot-up the Dallas Fed Bldg shouting ‘It’s the Govt!” He shot the exterior of the building…then he received a tax payer relief shot

  6. Old Gray Wolf

    Used to run a Peq-2a with a 14. Beam was good as far as one would care to shoot, well stronger than needed, and that’s on low. High could be useful for target ident for aircraft, which I don’t currently have use for. The downside to me was the large amount of NODs in LEO and civilian possession. With a NOD equipped foe or observer, the IR laser could work like a tracer, pointing out targets on each end. Assuming your opponent won’t see your laser is foolhardy in the current day. Momentary use could mitigate it somewhat, but I felt better going to passive sight system and learning to use it with my night vision capability. Not to mention the serious consequences of accidentally lasing someone’s eyes with a non-eyesafe laser. Which the PEQ-2a most definitely was not, to my knowledge. It went down the road.

  7. Alfred E. Neuman

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